OS

2002-07-28 Thread guess who

now i have installed Windows XP pro.Now i want to install windows 
2000 in my system in such a way called dual boot system.So how to 
do , can any one tell me the step by step process for doing it 
clearly.

Regards,
Prakash.

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Re: OS

2002-07-28 Thread Dennis M. Heisler

Did you do any research yourself before asking?  I did a quick search on
Google and got almost 7000 hits.  Microsoft's web site is probably your
best source.


guess who wrote:

> now i have installed Windows XP pro.Now i want to install windows
> 2000 in my system in such a way called dual boot system.So how to
> do , can any one tell me the step by step process for doing it
> clearly.
>
> Regards,
> Prakash.
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RE: OS

2002-07-28 Thread Amjad Saiyed

if iam not mistaken u cannot install windows 2000 over windows xp but u
could very well do the opposite..i.e install windows xp over windows 2000...

rgds,
Ams.
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RE: Are you qualified?

2002-07-28 Thread Gesler, Rich
Title: RE: Are you qualified?





no way! It's all mine...you'll have to find this gem yourself ;)


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You should email us the comany name too.


On Saturday 27 July 2002 07:58, Gesler, Rich wrote:
> To OCP or not to OCP... I found an interesting Job Description
>
> Job description: Oracle Certified OCP DBA 8i and 9i with Des 2000 -Oracle
> Database Administrator10 plus yrs. experience in IT with at least 5 yrs. as
> Oracle DBA B.S. and Masters in Computer Science, or related curriculum.
> Copies of diplomas must accompany the bid response. Failure to do so will
> result in the bid being declared as non-responsive. 
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RE: Are you qualified?

2002-07-28 Thread Gesler, Rich
Title: RE: Are you qualified?





I thought it was interesting how the job market has changed.


I have a BS.  8i certified. Data warehouse experience.  Designer 2K experience.  Oracle Apps and Peoplesoft experience.  Mainframe experience (sans Oracle).  16yrs IT experience (as a perm employee) half of which as a DBA (oracle, sybase, sql server).  

In the past, my broad background would have had these folks salivating over me.  Now, I'm lacking key pedigree and would end up in file 13.

-Have a good one
Rich




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based on this I can't send in my resume:


BA not BS in Computer Science
no Master's degree at all
no OCP 9i and no certificates for all other levels (well, they are
*somewhere* in my house but I ain't digging through to find them)
no OCM (I didn't know they gave OCM particular to platforms anyway)
no data warehouse experience (getting it now)
no Designer 2000
no financial ERP package experience at all
no Oracle on IBM
Oracle on Sun and HP-UX so I guess I qualify for that part
no Unix admin experience and no coursework in Unix admin


hm, I must be hard-core un-hireable then. Wonder why I keep getting job
offers?


:)


this is, of course, trash... I seriously doubt there is anyone out
there who has all this. I don't even know if there are any OCM people
out there, other than the 6 who were given honorary OCM at OpenWorld
last year.





--- "Gesler, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To OCP or not to OCP... I found an interesting Job Description
> 
> Job description: Oracle Certified OCP DBA 8i and 9i with Des 2000
> -Oracle
> Database Administrator10 plus yrs. experience in IT with at least 5
> yrs. as
> Oracle DBA B.S. and Masters in Computer Science, or related
> curriculum.
> Copies of diplomas must accompany the bid response. Failure to do so
> will
> result in the bid being declared as non-responsive. Oracle
> Certifications
> (OCP) in Database Administrations in the following all 4
> versions:7.3, 8.0,
> 8i, and 9i. Copies of certification must accompany the bid response.
> Failure
> to do so will result in the bid being declared as non-responsive.
> Oracle
> Master Certification on Database Administration on UNIX servers.
> Copies of
> certification must accompany the bid response. Failure to do so will
> result
> in the bid being declared as non-responsive. Minimum of 1 yr of
> experience
> creating and managing databases in data warehouse environment.
> Minimum of 2
> yrs. experience installing, configuring, and using Designer 2000
> design and
> develop logical physical databases. Minimum of 2 yrs. of experience
> with
> large financial ERP applications such as Peoplesoft, AMS, Oracle
> Applications. Minimum of 2 yrs. working experience of system
> supporting
> Oracle on IBM OS/390 environments using CICS, VSAM, and JCL on OS
> 390.
> Minimum of 2 yrs. experience with multiple UNIX environments, UNIX
> system
> administration experience, or completion of UNIX administration
> course. 
> 



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Re: Are you qualified?

2002-07-28 Thread ltiu

It did not mention how much is the pay?

How much should this type of job pay though?

ltiu

On Sunday 28 July 2002 08:18, Gesler, Rich wrote:
> no way! It's all mine...you'll have to find this gem yourself ;)
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Re: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

2002-07-28 Thread Eric D. Pierce


On 27 Jul 2002 at 17:03, Mladen Gogala wrote:

> On 2002.07.27 19:58 Eric D. Pierce wrote:
> > Silly masturbatory bigotry. I suppose you think it is a good
> > thing to drive all the NT people to using SQL Server by acting
> > like a typical snobby *sshole Unix DBA?
> 
> If someone wants to use SQL*Server, he'll do it. Oracle is too big and 
> too
> expensive for a small corner shop. MySQL and PostGres are even greater
> danger to both of them. Incidentally, I expect Oracle Corp. to bring 
> prices
> down soon. Very soon. 

So we should expect a whole new bunch of "newbee" NT Oracle 
DBAs to join the list? :)

haaa ha haaa


>As for the "snobby *sshole Unix DBA", yes, I am a 
> Unix
> guy, I used to  be a VMS guy, but Micros*t operating systems simply do 
> not satisfy
> my stability and adaptability criteria. 

So what? Are you saying that your experience eclipses 
everything that goes on in the market? 

I have nothing against deep-skill-set people and the 
nbecessary role they play as long as they don't try to 
"colonize" every other aspect of the industry with elitist 
b*llsh*t attitudes.


>Believe it or not, it's the 
> pricing that
> drives business decision, not a preference toward some specially 
> likable OS. If Oracle
> doesn't bring prices down, people will be using  SQL*Server on NT, one 
> way or another.

I would say it is functionality and price.


> > If the guys asking the question wanted to learn Linsux they
> > would have.
> 
> Well, if you want an operating systems that any idiot can use, than 
> idiots
> will use it. That particularly applies to Windoze.

So, extending your statement to its logical conclusion, only 
"experts" should have PCs, and the mass market for computers 
was a social aberration?

The reason MS established market domination was not just 
because of monopolistic practices, there was an existing 
vacuum on the low end of the market that MS learned to exploit 
by creating mass market products that the high-skill-set 
elitists/purists weren't inclined towards.


>The guys should know
> that, whoever the guys might be.

"They guys" are the ones asking the question about 
certification of oracle db 8.1.7 on XP.

As far as I know, there is no evidence that they either 
"should", or "do" know that.

> 
> > Linsux desktop is still sucky.
> 
> It is? Depends on what you mean by "sucky". That doesn't sound like a 
> particularly well
> defined criteria. I like my home environment (SuSE 8.0) far better then 
> my office environment
> (Windoze 2000). 

That proves nothing. Just because a high-skill-set nuix bigot, 
obviously steeped in the arcana of "systems" is able to get a 
working desktop Linsux environment setup says NOTHING about 
the mass market.

I have abundant evidence that even techies that have attempted 
to run Linsux desktop because the that MS find it too much of 
a real pain in the *ss after a while, and go back to MS in 
order to get work done.

>I, for one, think that windoze sucks.

Obviously, but so what?


> > There are a lot of
> > stable production windows server systems. Not as good Unix,
> > but it doesn't have to be.
> 
> Oh, there are? 

Read the book on Oracle9i on Windows 2000 by three Oracle 
employees (one of whom was on the list a while ago and said 
basically the same things I am).

http://mhorder.com/oracle9i/0072194626.html


>I've also heard that legend, but after having an 
> Exchange server down
> last week for almost a day, I stopped believing it. 

??? Does that mean you don't know how to run Exchange, or that 
Exchange sucks, or both?

If the latter, how does Exchange (AKA SQL Server) being sucky 
automatically mean that all of NT is sucky???


>Moreover, for the 
> database server,
> it DOES HAVE to be as good and as stable as >possible. 

Reliability is on a continuum. There are certainly instances 
of mainframes and unix being set up in a flaky, unreliable 
manner by people that lack expertise. Just because 
maingrame/unix is being used doesn't magically confer 
perfection on a system and guarantee 100% stability.

Now, if some guy wants to install Oracle on a laptop for 
(e.g.) testing/training purposes, I would suggest that it is 
utter f*ing insanity to say that they have absolutely no 
chance of doing it in a "stable" enough manner.


>I can live with 
> rebooting
> a desktop machine twice a day, but if that happens to the database 
> server, I'm in
> trouble. 

What are you basing your comments on? Can someone ask Oracle 
if the large number of production Oracle/NT systems that exist 
require daily rebooting?

Your statement is ridiculous.


>That is why my company is using 4-way HP 9000/N cluster. NT 
> simply doesn't
> cut it.

Again: SO WHAT?

In case the though never occurred to you, you and your company 
are not the center of the universe,and the end of all human 
possibility or experience.


> > Here is the main problem with MS: in order to sell product
> > (new operating systems), they have to sell it on ne

Re: OS [PTFM/RTFM: MS dual boot]

2002-07-28 Thread Eric D. Pierce

an example of what to read:

http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=BootMgr.TXT

I have extensive notes on Win9x and Win2000 dual boot, but not 
on Win2000 and WinXP dual boot.



On 28 Jul 2002 at 4:18, Dennis M. Heisler wrote:


> Did you do any research yourself before asking?  I did a quick search on
> Google and got almost 7000 hits.  Microsoft's web site is probably your
> best source.
> 
> 
> guess who wrote:
> 
> > now i have installed Windows XP pro.Now i want to install windows
> > 2000 in my system in such a way called dual boot system.So how to
> > do , can any one tell me the step by step process for doing it
> > clearly.


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Re: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

2002-07-28 Thread Mladen Gogala


On 2002.07.28 14:03 Eric D. Pierce wrote:
> 
> On 27 Jul 2002 at 17:03, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> 
> > On 2002.07.27 19:58 Eric D. Pierce wrote:
> > > Silly masturbatory bigotry. I suppose you think it is a good
> > > thing to drive all the NT people to using SQL Server by acting
> > > like a typical snobby *sshole Unix DBA?
> >
> > If someone wants to use SQL*Server, he'll do it. Oracle is too big
> and
> > too
> > expensive for a small corner shop. MySQL and PostGres are even
> greater
> > danger to both of them. Incidentally, I expect Oracle Corp. to bring
> 
> > prices
> > down soon. Very soon.
> 
> So we should expect a whole new bunch of "newbee" NT Oracle
> DBAs to join the list? :)
> 
> haaa ha haaa


Hey, you joined and nobody was objecting.

> 
> 
> >As for the "snobby *sshole Unix DBA", yes, I am a
> > Unix
> > guy, I used to  be a VMS guy, but Micros*t operating systems simply
> do
> > not satisfy
> > my stability and adaptability criteria.
> 
> So what? Are you saying that your experience eclipses
> everything that goes on in the market?

Where did you derive that from? 

> 
> I have nothing against deep-skill-set people and the
> nbecessary role they play as long as they don't try to
> "colonize" every other aspect of the industry with elitist
> b*llsh*t attitudes.
> 
> 
> >Believe it or not, it's the
> > pricing that
> > drives business decision, not a preference toward some specially
> > likable OS. If Oracle
> > doesn't bring prices down, people will be using  SQL*Server on NT,
> one
> > way or another.
> 
> I would say it is functionality and price.
> 
> 
> > > If the guys asking the question wanted to learn Linsux they
> > > would have.
> >
> > Well, if you want an operating systems that any idiot can use, than
> > idiots
> > will use it. That particularly applies to Windoze.
> 
> So, extending your statement to its logical conclusion, only
> "experts" should have PCs, and the mass market for computers
> was a social aberration?


Nope. It's not a social aberration. Only, people shouldn't be running 
production
databases on NT and related systems. Mass market is OK, Windoze is good 
for editing,
printing and playing tetris, but it is definitely not for databases.


> 
> The reason MS established market domination was not just
> because of monopolistic practices, there was an existing
> vacuum on the low end of the market that MS learned to exploit
> by creating mass market products that the high-skill-set
> elitists/purists weren't inclined towards.


On the other hand, we have pimply faced idiots who think that everything
should be done on NT because they don't know anything else. I've been
blessed with the several opportunities to interview a candidate with 
MSCE,OCP
and no unix experience for a DBA position, and I'm fully aware of
their "capabilities". Windoze is not for databases, regardless of what 
you think
about the world of adults (high-skill-set elitists/purists)

This debate is getting increasingly personal and that is why I am going 
to end
it right now. I tried avoiding a personal conflict in my first reply, 
but you
insisted. As I have nothing to gain from the squabble, I'm out of here.


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RE: runInstaller Error ....

2002-07-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Babu
This problem is confusing to me. Perhaps someone else on the list has an
idea. It seems your problem may have to do with LD_LIBRARY_PATH. I can't
think why /lib would be getting added to the first of your LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
I am not familiar with rda.sh. Usually, in a path like this, the software
simply searches each directory in turn and if it searches all of them
without finding what it is searching for, then it returns an error. A wild
idea would be for you to create an empty /lib directory on your system in
the hope that it would get searched and then the code will move on to the
next (correct) library. Maybe someone Monday morning will see this and have
a better idea. Have you searched Metalink for this error?
Dennis Williams
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I did the setting for LD_LIBRARY_PATH and is not working. I also executed
rda.sh script (REMOTE DIAGNOSTIC AGENT for UNIX), It came out with an error
as follows:

Argument LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/local/oracle/817/lib:/usr/lib not
recognized and was forced to exit. I don't know how /lib was picked up. When
issued echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it displayed as follows:

/usr/local/oracle/817/lib:/usr/lib

Please let me know how I should proceed with the error.

Thanks,
-- Babu

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Babu
   Try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $ORACLE_HOME/lib

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Dear list,

When I execute runInstaller from /cdrom/disk1, I get the following error
message:

Initializing java virtual machine from /tmp/OraInstall/jre/bin/jre. Please
wait... 
Class not found: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib

Iam unable to start the installer.
I unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and still getting the error. 
Iam installing 8.1.7.0.0(64bit) on Sun Sparc Solaris 2.8 (64bit).

Please let me know if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks,
-- Babu

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RE: runInstaller Error ....

2002-07-28 Thread A. Bardeen

Babu,

I'm not sure what's causing the error with
runInstaller, but the error you're receiving when
running RDA sounds like you're specifying the shell
when running it.  RDA on Unix is written in korn shell
(bash on Linux) and will not run properly if you
specify a different shell.

Once you've extracted it from the tar file, just
execute
   ./rda.sh

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Janardhana Babu Donga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did the setting for LD_LIBRARY_PATH and is not
> working. I also executed
> rda.sh script (REMOTE DIAGNOSTIC AGENT for UNIX), It
> came out with an error
> as follows:
> 
> Argument
>
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/local/oracle/817/lib:/usr/lib
> not
> recognized and was forced to exit. I don't know how
> /lib was picked up. When
> issued echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it displayed as
> follows:
> 
> /usr/local/oracle/817/lib:/usr/lib
> 
> Please let me know how I should proceed with the
> error.
> 
> Thanks,
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> Babu
>Try setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $ORACLE_HOME/lib
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> Dear list,
> 
> When I execute runInstaller from /cdrom/disk1, I get
> the following error
> message:
> 
> Initializing java virtual machine from
> /tmp/OraInstall/jre/bin/jre. Please
> wait... 
> Class not found: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib:/usr/lib
> 
> Iam unable to start the installer.
> I unset LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and still getting the
> error. 
> Iam installing 8.1.7.0.0(64bit) on Sun Sparc Solaris
> 2.8 (64bit).
> 
> Please let me know if anyone has any ideas.
> 
> Thanks,
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RE: Cursor Sharing .... Continued

2002-07-28 Thread Binley Lim


Rich, you don't mind providing more info on  2225065 ? You mean its not even fixed in 
8.1.7.4 ?

Can you provide a bit more on the circumstances under which it occurs?

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/02 04:09a.m. >>>

* * *   HAPPY DBA/SA APPRECIATION DAY!!!   * * *


Beware of ORA-600, ORA-7445, and incorrect results w/CS=F on 8i!  I've got
it on 8.1.7.2 and we live with the possibilities.  I get the most ORA-7445s
when doing queries on the DD.  This supposedly gets better with 8.1.7.3 and
.4.

We've also got one app that consistently returned WRONG results with CS=F
(BUG 2225065).  Tbe only workaround available is to turn it off for that app
or upgrade to 9i.

HTH!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Setting it to Force worked well as the 
> pool has been cleared on many queries
> using literals any many of those hard
> parses went away.  So far ... So good.
> 
> I aint sayin nothin to the developers
> although some have already noticed an
> improvement.
> 
> I am going to put the hammer down on 
> them to rewrite those literals.
> 
> FWIW.  Mike
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RE: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

2002-07-28 Thread Michael Kline

> > There are a lot of
> > stable production windows server systems. Not as good Unix,
> > but it doesn't have to be.
> 
> Oh, there are? I've also heard that legend, but after having an 
> Exchange server down
> last week for almost a day, I stopped believing it. Moreover, for the 
> database server,
> it DOES HAVE to be as good and as stable as possible. I can live with 
> rebooting
> a desktop machine twice a day, but if that happens to the database 
> server, I'm in
> trouble. That is why my company is using 4-way HP 9000/N cluster. NT 
> simply doesn't
> cut it.
> 
I've had several Windows NT and 2000 servers that will run Oracle for
months, but Linux is quite good as well.

I remember once while testing software, I had to "busy" a version 8
database, then use the software(DB Scope) to look over the database
and tell me what was wrong. I got it busy inserting records, dropping
records, doing full table scans in a script that just kept repeating 
itself.

Well a few months later I had a revision to the software and had to look
at a Version 8 database again... I found the I/O in the billions and 
couldn't figure out why.

The Linux box had been running at 99% CPU running my script for 2-3 months
doing that test on Oracle 8, running our backup DNS, and backup Email
server and no one even knew the box was that busy... Yet, our super
powerful Exchange Server was down usually 1-2 times a week and was probably
3-5 times faster with twin processors.

Usually when management sees a Windows database server and tries to 
"add" something to it, that's when you really start having problems.
Keep it "plain" and it will do much better. 

I just found 99% cpu for 3 months very impressive.

Maks.
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deploy forms on web

2002-07-28 Thread Arvind Kumar

DearAll


 i want to deploy my application (forms & reports) on web, for this i
have instlled forms and 
reports server 6i can see the forms (.fmx) in browser but its window size is
not appearing proper and the icons also not appearing .what could be the
problem.

Thanks in advance


Regards
Arvind Kumar
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Re: Install Oracle 8i on Windows XP?

2002-07-28 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Absurd. Your intention from 
the beginning was to be a snobby 
jerk.




http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/102gwtnf.asp


  Among 
the Bourgeoisophobes 


  Why 
the Europeans and Arabs, each in their own way, hate
  America 
and Israel. 


  by 
David Brooks 


  04/15/2002, 
Volume 007, Issue 30 


  AROUND 
1830, a group of French artists and intellectuals
  looked 
around and noticed that people who were their
  spiritual 
inferiors were running the world. Suddenly a
  large 
crowd of merchants, managers, and traders were 
  making 
lots of money, living in the big houses, and
  holding 
the key posts. They had none of the high style
  of 
the aristocracy, or even the earthy integrity of the
  peasants. 
Instead, they were gross. They were vulgar 
  materialists, 
shallow conformists, and self-absorbed
  philistines, 
who half the time failed even to
  acknowledge 
their moral and spiritual inferiority 
  to 
the artists and intellectuals. What's more, it was
  their 
very mediocrity that accounted for their success.
  Through 
some screw-up in the great scheme of the
  universe, 
their narrow-minded greed had brought them 
  vast 
wealth, unstoppable power, and growing social
  prestige. 


  Naturally, 
the artists and intellectuals were outraged.
  Hatred 
of the bourgeoisie became the official emotion of
  the 
French intelligentsia. Stendhal said traders and
  merchants 
made him want to "weep and vomit at the same
  time." 
Flaubert thought they were "plodding and
  avaricious." 
Hatred of the bourgeoisie, he wrote, "is
  the 
beginning of all virtue." He signed his letters
  "Bourgeoisophobus" 
to show how much he despised "stupid 
  grocers 
and their ilk." 


  Of 
all the great creeds of the 19th century, pretty much
  the 
only one still thriving is this one,
  bourgeoisophobia. 
Marxism is dead. Freudianism is dead.
  Social 
Darwinism is dead, along with all those theories
  about 
racial purity that grew up around it. But the
  emotions 
and reactions that Flaubert, Stendhal, and all
  the 
others articulated in the 1830s are still with us,
  bigger 
than ever. In fact, bourgeoisophobia, which has
  flowered 
variously and spread to places as diverse as
  Baghdad, 
Ramallah, and Beijing, is the major reactionary
  creed 
of our age. 


  This 
is because today, in much of the world's eyes, two
  peoples--the 
Americans and the Jews--have emerged as the
  great 
exemplars of undeserved success. Americans and
  Israelis, 
in this view, are the money-mad molochs 
  of 
the earth, the vulgarizers of morals, corrupters of
  culture, 
and proselytizers of idolatrous values. These
  two 
nations, it is said, practice conquest capitalism,
  overrunning 
poorer nations and exploiting weaker
  neighbors 
in their endless desire for more and more.
  These 
two peoples, the Americans and the Jews, in the
  view 
of the bourgeoisophobes, thrive precisely because
  they 
are spiritually stunted. It is their 
  obliviousness 
to the holy things in life, their feverish
  energy, 
their injustice, their shallow pursuit of power
  and 
gain, that allow them to build fortunes, construct
  weapons, 
and play the role of hyperpower. 


  And 
so just as the French intellectuals of the 1830s
  rose 
up to despise the traders and bankers, certain
  people 
today rise up to shock, humiliate, and dream of
  destroying 
America and Israel. Today's bourgeoisophobes
  burn 
with the same sense of unjust inferiority. They
  experience 
the same humiliation because there is nothing
  they 
can do to thwart the growing might of their
  enemies. 
They rage and rage. Only today's
  bourgeoisophobes 
are not just artists and intellectuals.
  They 
are as likely to be terrorists and suicide bombers.
  They 
teach in madrassas, where they are careful not to
  instruct 
their students in the sort of practical
  knowledge 
that dominates bourgeois schools. They are
  Muslim 
clerics who incite hatred and violence. They are
  erudite 
Europeans who burn with humiliation because they
  know, 
deep down, that both America and Israel possess a 
  vitality 
and heroism that their nations once had but no
  longer 
do. 
...


( originally linked from www.dynamist.com 
)


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On 28 Jul 2002 at 12:53, Mladen 
Gogala wrote:

...
> This debate 
is getting increasingly personal and that is why I am going 
> to end
> it right 
now. I tried avoiding a personal conflict in my first reply, 
> but you
> insisted. 
As I have nothing to gain from the squabble, I'm out of here.


...




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RE: Substraction SQL query

2002-07-28 Thread cosltemp-g . manoj


BDY.RTF
Description: RTF file


OT : Basic Critical O.S. Values that Trigger Problem Alert

2002-07-28 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA

Hi

We are Trying to make a General Document to be forwarded to Customers which should 
allow them to know when they are performing far below normal

At the Operating System Level we are trying to Identify Practical
Critical Values which when below respective Threshold Limits which 
would give the alert about a potential problem .

We are Looking for these in Areas of :-

1) Network Thruput 
2) Memory Utilization 
3) Swap Utilization
4) IO Utilization

Would apreciate actual Commands used (preferably those Generic across
different O.S.)  & respective Critical Threshold Limit Values for the Above 

EXAMPLE For Network thruput Between APPLICATION Server machine & Database Server 
Machine 
what , by experience , are the parameters & their respective Minimum
threshold Values which would let us know that there is a Severe problem therein ? 

NOTE - We have generally been measuring this by Manually ftping a Big
File , about 100MB , between APP & DB Server machines , noting the thruput 
Displayed in (kbytes/s) on Completion & Converting this Value to Mega Bits / Second
(i.e. MBPS) . If this Value is Less than 40MBPS for a 100 MBPS Cable we
know there is a PRoblem with Network Bandwidth.

Miscellaneous - Some Threshold Limits known to us :-

Command - vmstat 5 3
Virtual Memory Statistics: (pagesize = 8192)
  procs  memorypagesintr
cpu
  r   w   u  act free wire fault  cow zero react  pin pout  in  sy  cs us sy id
  3  1K  34 266K  84K  32K  811M 132M 339M   635 193M0 188 28K  1K 16  7 77
  3  1K  33 267K  84K  32K   410   71  151 0  1310 494  2K  4K 4  2 93
  3  1K  36 269K  82K  32K  5459 1720  807 0 30160 471  3K  4K 37  5 58


1) Utilization of CPU due to Operating System (Internal) Operations (%sy)
Exceeding Utilization due to user Applications (%us)

2) Average Wait of CPU for IO to Complete  (%wio) Greater than (>) 30 % [ From
sar Command ]

3) Utilization of CPU due to Operating System (Internal) Operations (%sy) > 30 %

4) CPU Utilization - If  Total CPU  Utilization  Consistently Near 0%
Idle Or further Coupled with any of the following :-
   a)Abnormally High Wait for IO ( > 30 %) [ From sar Command ]
   b)Abnormally High  Operating System CPU Utilization ( > 30 %)
   c)Abnormally High Run Queue ["r" > (3 * Number of CPUs)]

THANKS

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open cursors problem

2002-07-28 Thread Gavin D'Mello

Hi everyone,
I am running EJB under weblogic 5.1 jdbc 2.0, and
when I last checked the database the number of open cursors was 564. I know
8.1.7 has a cap of  750 open cursors after which the db will crash. Since
this is the first time I have faced this problem I would be grateful if
anyone could point out what could be the possible areas that could cause
this problem ( other than the logical one of not closing cursors once they
have been opened and used !).

any help here would be appreciated.

thank you,

Gavin

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