AW: Oracle and OpenLDAP server

2003-07-29 Thread Stefan Jahnke
We don't use it, yet. I considered using AD, because we already have an AD.
But, I would prefer OpenLDAP for the UNIX world. OID is not an option since 
it is pretty much overkill for our needs.

Let's try and see ;).

Stefan


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Stefan - Instead of AD?? I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to
work with AD. My impression at this point is that only a few people have
played with OID. I really hope you receive a reply because it will probably
give me some hints about how to use it with AD.

Dennis Williams
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Hi 

Is there a way to get Oracle to work with OpenLDAP instead of OID, NDS or AD
?
If so, does anybody know of a good How-To ?

TIA,
Stefan



 
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Re: Oracle Banner

2003-07-29 Thread Pete Finnigan
Hi Chris,

Nice idea!, 

Out of interest I was looking for a way to hide or alter the listener
banner info when i was writing the Oracle security step-by-step book for
SANS but i didn't consider how to alter the banner info for the server
as well. 

I wanted to find a way to hide banner info to stop those people who map
networks looking for recognisable apps so that they can exploit them.
The best way forward we could come up with at the time was to set the
password as suggested in Howard Smiths paper. 

Oracle do allow configurable banner info for IFS and I was told by
someone in Oracle that they were working towards allowing a configurable
banner for the listener sometime in the future.

I will add your idea for the server to my list though, thanks.

kind regards

Pete
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RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.

2003-07-29 Thread Lord David
Ok, I like vi, that's why I turn on vi emulation in emacs.  I use vim for
quick file viewing because it loads faster than emacs.  But, over time, I've
found that emacs gives you a load of little extras that suck you in and
become indispensible.  A few that spring to mind: -

- jde - java IDE, does most things that eclipse will without the memory
footprint and crashes.
- dired - directory browsing including remote browsing via ftp
- sql-mode - sqlplus in emacs
- gnuserve - so you can open up files from windows explorer in a
pre-existing emacs instance.

Yeah, you can probably get all of these from other programs that you use in
conjunction with vim, but you don't get the integration (plus vim's syntax
highlighting is slow.  I've got a 200k perl script that takes minutes to
highlight in vim, but only a few seconds in emacs).  What have you got to
lose (apart from a few months of your life messing with your .emacs).

YMMV
David Lord

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 vi is what I use and it's the predominant editor for 
 SysAdmin/DBA types
 but I'm curious as to how many DBA's use emacs. I just saw a demo of
 SQL*Plus running under emacs and it was quite functional... Sorta like
 and IDE for SQL without Windoze GUI dependencies. Any DBA's 
 use emacs on
 a daily basis?  
 
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RE: Oracle and OpenLDAP server

2003-07-29 Thread Hatzistavrou John
I have found the following link. It might be what you are looking for

http://home.nc.rr.com/jtlayton/oid2openldap.html


Kind Regards,


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We don't use it, yet. I considered using AD, because we already have an AD.
But, I would prefer OpenLDAP for the UNIX world. OID is not an option since 
it is pretty much overkill for our needs.

Let's try and see ;).

Stefan


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Stefan - Instead of AD?? I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to
work with AD. My impression at this point is that only a few people have
played with OID. I really hope you receive a reply because it will probably
give me some hints about how to use it with AD.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi 

Is there a way to get Oracle to work with OpenLDAP instead of OID, NDS or AD
?
If so, does anybody know of a good How-To ?

TIA,
Stefan



 
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AW: Oracle and OpenLDAP server

2003-07-29 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi Yannis (or John ?)

That's GREAT. Exactly what I was looking for. I'll play around with it on
the weekend and give some feedback to the list next week (if somebody is
interested, that is).

Thanks a lot !
Stefan

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I have found the following link. It might be what you are looking for

http://home.nc.rr.com/jtlayton/oid2openldap.html


Kind Regards,


Hatzistavrou Yannis
Database Administrator
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We don't use it, yet. I considered using AD, because we already have an AD.
But, I would prefer OpenLDAP for the UNIX world. OID is not an option since 
it is pretty much overkill for our needs.

Let's try and see ;).

Stefan


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Stefan - Instead of AD?? I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to
work with AD. My impression at this point is that only a few people have
played with OID. I really hope you receive a reply because it will probably
give me some hints about how to use it with AD.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi 

Is there a way to get Oracle to work with OpenLDAP instead of OID, NDS or AD
?
If so, does anybody know of a good How-To ?

TIA,
Stefan



 
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undo tablespace and set transaction use rollback segment

2003-07-29 Thread A.Bahar
 
   when we were using oracle8i , whe had some process which use set transaction use 
rollback segment.
  and now we use undo tablespace and we have still same porocesses .
  how can set a rollbback segment for process with undo tablepsace
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RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.

2003-07-29 Thread Lee Cullip
Thanks for this David, it's given me somewhere to start!!!

Cheers
Lee

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Here's mine with references to optional packages (mainly jde) removed.  Its
set up for windows and cygwin, so if you're using something else (better;)
you can remove the cygwin bit at the end.

--x--x--x--x--x--cut-here--x--x--x--x--x--
(setq viper-mode t)
(require 'viper)
(custom-set-variables
  ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom -- don't edit or cut/paste it!
  ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 '(auto-compression-mode t nil (jka-compr))
 '(case-fold-search t)
 '(column-number-mode t)
 '(current-language-environment Latin-1)
 '(default-input-method latin-1-prefix)
 '(fill-column 80)
 '(font-lock-maximum-size 1048576)
 '(frame-background-mode (quote dark))
 '(global-font-lock-mode t nil (font-lock))
 '(indent-tabs-mode nil)
 '(mouse-wheel-mode t nil (mwheel))
 '(perl-continued-brace-offset -3)
 '(perl-continued-statement-offset 3)
 '(perl-indent-level 3)
 '(sgml-indent-data t t)
 '(tab-width 3)
 '(text-mode-hook (quote (turn-on-auto-fill (lambda nil (auto-fill-mode 1))
viper-mode text-mode-hook-identify)))
 '(viper-auto-indent t)
 '(viper-electric-mode nil)
 '(viper-emacs-state-mode-list (quote (custom-mode dired-mode efs-mode
tar-mode mh-folder-mode gnus-group-mode gnus-summary-mode Info-mode
Buffer-menu-mode view-mode vm-mode vm-summary-mode SQLi-mode
sql-interactive-mode shell-mode csh-mode ksh-mode comint-mode telnet-mode
rlogin-mode)))
 '(viper-vi-state-mode-list (quote (fundamental-mode makefile-mode help-mode
awk-mode m4-mode html-mode emacs-lisp-mode lisp-mode lisp-interaction-mode
java-mode cc-mode c-mode c++-mode fortran-mode f90-mode basic-mode bat-mode
asm-mode prolog-mode text-mode indented-text-mode tex-mode latex-mode
bibtex-mode completion-list-mode compilation-mode perl-mode javascript-mode
tcl-mode python-mode gnus-article-mode mh-show-mode sql-mode sh-mode
Man-mode man-mode

;; SQL/PL/SQL mode
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.sql$ . sql-mode))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.pls$ . sql-mode))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.plb$ . sql-mode))
(eval-after-load sql
  '(font-lock-add-keywords 
   'sql-mode
 
'(((exception\\|notfound\\|pragma\\|cursor_already_open\\|dup_val_on_i
ndex\\|invalid_cursor\\|invalid_number\\|login_denied\\|no_data_found\\|not_
logged_on\\|program_error\\|storage_error\\|timeout_on_resource\\|too_many_r
ows\\|transaction_backed_out\\|value_error\\|zero_divide\\|others\\)\\ .
font-lock-warning-face)
(\\loop\\ . font-lock-keyword-face)
((if\\|elsif\\|else\\|while\\|return\\)\\ .
font-lock-function-name-face
(autoload 'sql-oracle sql Interactive SQL mode. t):w

;; Load dired-x
(require 'dired-x)

;; Another attept to get cygwin working
(setq binary-process-input t) 
(setq w32-quote-process-args ?\) 
(setq shell-file-name bash) ;; or sh if you rename your bash executable to
sh. 
(setenv SHELL shell-file-name) 
(setq explicit-shell-file-name shell-file-name) 
(setq explicit-sh-args '(-login -i))
--x--x--x--x--x--cut-here--x--x--x--x--x--


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 Sent: 28 July 2003 16:24
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.
 
 
 Thanks David, that is pretty good stuff. Where would the 
 .emacs file be for
 this so that I can have a look and try and understand the 
 configuration?
 
 Cheers
 Lee
 
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 Sent: 28 July 2003 14:14
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I know what you mean.  The best I can come up with is
 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SqlMode.  My .emacs 
 has been built
 up over five years.   Its not pretty, but I'd be lost without it.
 
 Fortunately, sql-mode comes with GNU emacs (and I'm almost 
 certain, with
 Xemacs) and doesn't need any setup beyond ensuring that Emacs 
 can find the
 oracle client installation.  Simply type M-x sql-oracle.  It 
 will prompt for
 the username, password and sqlnet alias and then try to log you in.
 
 Regards
 David Lord
 
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  Sent: 28 July 2003 13:49
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.
  
  
  I'd see myself as one of the old dinosaur type's!! (Been 
  using vi since I
  can remember) ;-) I've tried playing with emacs many times, 
  but it's the
  configuration that put's me off everytime. Is there a good source of
  information for configuring emacs with sql support ?
  
  Regards
  Lee
  
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  Sent: 28 July 2003 13:21
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  I use sql-mode for local databases.  Its got the advantage 
  that you can
  'pop' sql statements from another buffer into it, giving you 
  something very
  like the sqlplus worksheet.  Its great when you're 

RE: Oracle and OpenLDAP server

2003-07-29 Thread Hatzistavrou John
I am looking forward to your feedback.

Kind Regards,


Hatzistavrou Yannis
Database Administrator
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Hi Yannis (or John ?)

That's GREAT. Exactly what I was looking for. I'll play around with it on
the weekend and give some feedback to the list next week (if somebody is
interested, that is).

Thanks a lot !
Stefan

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Von: Hatzistavrou John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have found the following link. It might be what you are looking for

http://home.nc.rr.com/jtlayton/oid2openldap.html


Kind Regards,


Hatzistavrou Yannis
Database Administrator
SchlumbergerSema
Phone ext.  478
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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We don't use it, yet. I considered using AD, because we already have an AD.
But, I would prefer OpenLDAP for the UNIX world. OID is not an option since 
it is pretty much overkill for our needs.

Let's try and see ;).

Stefan


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Stefan - Instead of AD?? I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to
work with AD. My impression at this point is that only a few people have
played with OID. I really hope you receive a reply because it will probably
give me some hints about how to use it with AD.

Dennis Williams
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Hi 

Is there a way to get Oracle to work with OpenLDAP instead of OID, NDS or AD
?
If so, does anybody know of a good How-To ?

TIA,
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RE: Integration with IBM Mqueue series

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Onions
Did anybody get to download the presentation? When I try and get it form the
NJ downloads page I get a:

The requested URL /download/Oracle PRN Streams.ppt was not found on this
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message. I would very much like to read this.

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I thinks Oracle Streams in 9i does the same thing. Please check for doc on 
otn or metalink. I attended a workshop on Oracle Streams in NJ yesterday and

presenter was Indy Johal. A nice presentation. It may be placed at 
www.njoug.org.


He is also going to present it in Oracle OPENWorld in SEP 2003.

Regards
Rafiq




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Try reading up about Oracle AQ, and particularly the JMS and translation
related stuff with 9i AQ. IBM MQ series is a Messaging gateway for  EAI
integration, It has a number of competitors such as See Beyond, Tibco and
MS Biztalk.
In simple terms these systems take in a message and through translation
rules read the message header and route it to another system, so your
Oracle Applications can talk to the SAP system or the  Peoplesoft system
or our software via a single interface as the MQ server acts as the
gateway.

All adaptors are generally C++ or Java but not exclusively and the
messages are XML

Oracle has or did have a product called Interconnect built on AQ that was
a competitor for MQ Series

HTH

Cheers


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Can anyone please shed some light on how this can be done  ?

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Re: latch

2003-07-29 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

Shared pool latch protects memory allocation and de-allocation in shared
pool. Thus probably you have a very volatile shared pool currently. You have
several options, first of them would be to check whether you'r application
is using bind variables. If it is mostly using literal values in SQL, then
each sql call with different parameters has to be parsed and stored in
library cache along with it's execution plan etc.. Maybe you have too *big*
shared pool? I'm not sure about 9i, but in 8i you could have a lot of shared
pool LRU scanning for recreatable chunks when loading/parsing in a new
object.

If literal values in SQL are your case, then either change the app or use
cursor_sharing = force parameter. Check www.ixora.com.au Q+A section under
shared pool, there is more information about shared pool tuning.

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 can someone please tell me what is shared pool
 latch(latch# 155) and how do we prevent this.

 i am facing this in 9i very frequently.

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ocp question

2003-07-29 Thread rgaffuri
Im using the osborne OCP books for review. They say you can do 

analyze table table_name validate structure into storage of bad rows table

I do that I get ORA-14510 only place its documented is on metalink and it says:

Error:  ORA 14510 Text: can specify VALIDATE INTO clause only for partitioned tables  
--- Cause: 
   The VALIDATE INTO has been specified for a non partitioned table or cluster or 
index.  Action:  Use syntax correctly 
. 

how do you define where you want to store your results ofa  validate structure. I know 
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RE: Integration with IBM Mqueue series

2003-07-29 Thread Indy Johal

Tim

I am attaching the file to your Email Id Directly and will also pass the message to the support team of the site for correction.


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Did anybody get to download the presentation? When I try and get it form the
NJ downloads page I get a:

The requested URL /download/Oracle PRN Streams.ppt was not found on this
server.

message. I would very much like to read this.

Thanks

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I thinks Oracle Streams in 9i does the same thing. Please check for doc on 
otn or metalink. I attended a workshop on Oracle Streams in NJ yesterday and

presenter was Indy Johal. A nice presentation. It may be placed at 
www.njoug.org.


He is also going to present it in Oracle OPENWorld in SEP 2003.

Regards
Rafiq




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Try reading up about Oracle AQ, and particularly the JMS and translation
related stuff with 9i AQ. IBM MQ series is a Messaging gateway for EAI
integration, It has a number of competitors such as See Beyond, Tibco and
MS Biztalk.
In simple terms these systems take in a message and through translation
rules read the message header and route it to another system, so your
Oracle Applications can talk to the SAP system or the Peoplesoft system
or our software via a single interface as the MQ server acts as the
gateway.

All adaptors are generally C++ or Java but not exclusively and the
messages are XML

Oracle has or did have a product called Interconnect built on AQ that was
a competitor for MQ Series

HTH

Cheers


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Resend : Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability

2003-07-29 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Resending this email, hoping for a reply this time.

Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:49:24 -0800
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Oracle's Security Alert #29  [Note 175429.1] on the EXTPROC recommends the 
workaround to disable
EXTPROC as
   1.  Removing the entry for extproc/PLSExtproc/icache_extproc from the 
listener.ora
   2.  Removing the entry from the tnsnames.ora
   3.  Renaming or removing the extproc executable

Why should all three actions be necessary ?  Why not just removing the 
entry from the
listener.ora ?  Can extproc be called without the listener configured ?

Security Alert #57 just talks of the CREATE LIBRARY privilege and makes no 
mention of
updating the listener.ora or tnsnames.ora or removing/renaming the extproc 
executable.  Why ?
Is it that Oracle wants people to use EXTPROC [or makes use of EXTPROC 
itself] so it
does not specify how EXTPROC can be disabled ?



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Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608

Scenario:

I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech), got a couple of
warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc.  Before I ran the
command at the command NT command level, I truncated arc_ndc via
SQL*Plus.

After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
direction to do this, I just did it for good measure figuring I would
get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the reboot,
oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't opened.  I had
to open the database as SYSDBA.

Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any directive to do
so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.

Thanks for your help and patience.

v/r

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Re: clustering

2003-07-29 Thread Hemant K Chitale


Tanel,
I think that you've had some unfortunate experiences with RAC. Mind
elucdating them ?
I don't see nodes hanging when one node dies [I'm running a 2-node Tru64
RAC Cluster]
Hemant
At 03:04 PM 28-07-03 -0800, you wrote:
However,
failed transactions must be handled from client side. Queries may migrate
to surviving nodes transparently.
Also, currently RAC has many problems, such all
nodes hanging when one node dies. Completely separate systems are still
(an will always be) the most available solution.

Tanel.

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Another Important different is that RAC is best High Availability
solution in case of System/Instance Failure where in case of HP or
Veritas Cluster, all of the resource get stopped on live system/node of
the cluster and then get started on second node and hence user will be
affected. But in case of system or Instance failure, there is seamless
transition of the User session in RAC 


Indy Johal


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ak,
As I understand it, an HP cluster is 2 boxes that have the capability
to access the same disks and data but only one can have the oracle
instance running and accessing the datafiles(active). Sort of like a
high availability option.
With RAC both boxes can access the instance and datafiles at the same
time.
List, Correct me if I need it.
Ron

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Hi Guys ,
I am new to this clustering concept. Just trying to understand few
basics . Need ur help .

what is differece between oracle running on sun /hp cluster with 2
nodes and oracle with RAC running on 2 nodes ? 

thanks,
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BYTES in DBA_DATA_FILES shows NULL

2003-07-29 Thread Gunawan Yuwono
Hi all,

Can somebody explain how you can have NULL value for BYTES field in
DBA_DATA_FILES? However, V$DATAFILE view shows the correct size under BYTES
field.

Query the SYS.X$KTFBHC, ktfbhccval field is equal to 1 for the offending
datafiles.

Tempting to bounce this production database later if that will fix the problem.

How this happened...
1) ran script to add datafiles to existing tablespace:
   ALTER tablespace DATA_HISTORY add
   datafile '/u09/bilp/data_history_05.dbf' SIZE 1966088K,
   '/u06/bilp/data_history_06.dbf' SIZE 1966088K;
2) broke out of session
3) files were created on mount points /u09 and /u06
4) I saw that the files were created on UNIX, but Oracle still saw them a 0
bytes
5) I tried to resize the datafile's (received error - ORA-0600)
--- alter database datafile '/u06/bilp/data_history_06.dbf' resize 100M
6) Took datafiles off-line
7) Tried to take them online, got a message that recovery is needed. Recovered
datafiles
8) datafiles online, but still show 0 bytes
9) I was able to select and insert records into a table that uses this
tablespace.
 
Any idea will be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Gunawan Yuwono
Oracle DBA
Kansas City

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ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread Charu Joshi
Hi,

I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
network datatype or representation'.

I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
you please suggest any way to rectify it?

Thanks  regards,
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Re: Resend : Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability

2003-07-29 Thread Arup Nanda
I sent a reply on that day. Here it is, once again.

 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:25:59 -0400
 Subject: Re: Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability

Hemant,

You are right in wondering why there are three steps.

1. The lsitener must not be listening for the EXTPROC connections - that is
the first line of defense.
2. There is no absolute need to remove from tnsnames.ora, but good to do so
as you will see later.
3. The executabe has to be removed as it could be exploited in a different
manner. Note, all security alerts are based on what is known _today_; not
what is possible. Just because the listener is not listening for the extproc
executable does not _necessarily_ indicate that it can't be used in an
attack; an enterprising hacker may find a way. If your intention is to
remove extproc, you did so by removing from listener.ora; so it is just
prudent to remove the last potential hole by removing extproc executable,
too. After all, it not useful.

Now for the other question why the alter 57 does not talk about the
listener.ora security. The alerts 29 and 57 are similar, yet different. The
alert 29 talks about a buffer overflow using the external process. The
alert 57 is about system privileges. The system privilege, create library
will alow a hacker to create a library on any filesystem that the user
oracle has privileges on, INCLUDING THE ORACLE_HOME/BIN and $OH/lib!
Therefore, imagine a hacker breaks in, creates a library that uses the
Oracle excutables and java libraries and executes them. This is a huge hole
and should be plugged by simply disallowing any user to create a library.
Take for instance, a user has to create a library to create a function for
some complex mathemetical calculation, e.g. finding the prime numbers, which
can't be done in PL/SQL. This can be done via a C++ program and the shared
object can be made availabel to ORacle using a lbrary as:

create library prime_num_lib as '/usr/ananda/lib/prime_num_lib.so';

When a user uses this library, the EXTPROC process will run the .so file on
the user's behalf. Fair enough; what's wrong with that?

What is the user (the hacker) creates a library to point to some .so file in
$OH/lib directory? You get the picture what might happen.

Another variation of the create library is

create library prime_num_lib as '/usr/ananda/lib/prime_num_lib.so' AGENT
'dblink1'

Here the Oracle server process uses the dblink to connect to another
server's EXTPROC process to executes its task. Instead of using a dblink to
another server, it may actually connect to the extproc of the same server
using the connect string defined in the tnsnames.ora. It may not exist; but
what if the hacker actually copied the exeutable to a different name,
seemingly harmless. Removing extproc from tnsnames.ora wil lplug that hole
too. BEsides, it is a good practice to remove it since the presence
indicates the usage (albeit in the past) and may give a potential hacker a
clue.

Remember, securing is not just plugging the most obvious holes; but all
potential ones. The alerts point that out.

Another thing of note here is to plug a seprate potential problem - removing
the CREATE ANY DIRECTORY privilege. This provilege creates a directory on
any filesystem accessible by oracle user. Do not grant any one this
privilege; and be very cautious while granting CREATE DIRECTORY privilege,
too.

HTH.

Arup Nanda
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 Resending this email, hoping for a reply this time.

 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:49:24 -0800
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 X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum
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 Subject: Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability
 Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California
 
 
 Oracle's Security Alert #29  [Note 175429.1] on the EXTPROC recommends
the
 workaround to disable
 EXTPROC as
 1.  Removing the entry for extproc/PLSExtproc/icache_extproc from the
  listener.ora
 2.  Removing the entry from the tnsnames.ora
 3.  Renaming or removing the extproc executable
 
 Why should all three actions be necessary ?  Why not just removing the
 entry from the
 listener.ora ?  Can extproc be called without the listener configured ?
 
 Security Alert #57 just talks of the CREATE LIBRARY privilege and makes
no
 mention of
 updating the listener.ora or tnsnames.ora or removing/renaming the
extproc
 executable.  Why ?
 Is it that Oracle wants people to use EXTPROC [or makes use of EXTPROC
 itself] so it
 does not specify how EXTPROC can be disabled ?
 
 
 

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RE: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)





It is a TOAD question  you need to read the sqlnet setup section from help file. It is pretty detailed and will help you resolve the problem.

Raj

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Hi,


I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
network datatype or representation'.


I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
you please suggest any way to rectify it?


Thanks  regards,
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Re: Oracle AQ monitoring questions

2003-07-29 Thread AK
We are using AQ for long time . No problems so far .

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 Hi,

 I am looking at using Oracle AQ to post messages.I know they are just like
 any other database table but with some limitations.i have some concerns
from
 what I have heard from users who have previously used AQ

 1.Are there any serious concerns in using AQ.My purpose of using AQ is
just
 to act like a messager of message and to have JMS features implemented
with
 the Application.Are there any known issues? or any advantages.?

 2.Are there any monitoring scripts/features within oracle database to
 monitor the AQ for their growth/size/length or corruption.?

 3.Does AQ get corrupted more often than other oracle tables?How can we
find
 out if AQ is getting corrupted.This question may be related to the
previous
 one .

 Pls advice.

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Re: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread AK
Not sure but this might have something to do with charset (if toad can
handle clob??? ) .  what is db charset ? is it utf8 .

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 Hi,

 I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
 and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
 remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
 try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
 network datatype or representation'.

 I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
 SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
 default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
 Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
 from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
 have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
 you please suggest any way to rectify it?

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direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread Hans de Git
Hi All,

Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack 
top-5 wait list:
Top 5 Wait Events
~ Wait % 
Total
Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt 
Time
   
---
direct path write 304,867   35,925   
49.83
log file sync 145,015   23,441   
32.52
db file sequential read11,3703,684
5.11
file open 9813,326
4.61
db file parallel write  1,8933,115
4.32

You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the 
list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore 
I'm asking the real experts.

What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event 
different from db file parallel write?
I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries. 
However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.

Any suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks,
Hans de Git
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RE: direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread Gorbounov,Vadim
Hi Hans, 

direct path write cause would be writing temporary segments when sorts are
too large to be performed in memory, direct path operations like INSERT /+
APPEND or LOB access.
It's hard to guess which one is causing your problems, so I'd suggest you
profiling the call having performance issues :

 alter session set events = '10046 trace name context forever, level 8';
do what is an issue
 alter session set events = '10046 trace name context off';

Find trace file in udump directory and use tkprof then to identify SQL
statement waiting on  direct path write.  You will need 9i tkprof (any
platform is good) to report wait events,
otherwise you could review raw trace file .

HTH
Vadim



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Hi All,

Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack 
top-5 wait list:
Top 5 Wait Events
~ Wait % 
Total
Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt 
Time
   
---
direct path write 304,867   35,925   
49.83
log file sync 145,015   23,441   
32.52
db file sequential read11,3703,684
5.11
file open 9813,326
4.61
db file parallel write  1,8933,115
4.32

You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the 
list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore 
I'm asking the real experts.

What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event 
different from db file parallel write?
I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries.

However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.

Any suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks,
Hans de Git

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RE: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Gorbounov,Vadim
Hi Stephen,

No imp wouldn't close or otherwise impact Oracle instance. I'd look at
init.ora . Someone could make changes there, effective at reboot time

Vadim 

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imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608

Scenario:

I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech), got a couple of
warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc.  Before I ran the
command at the command NT command level, I truncated arc_ndc via
SQL*Plus.

After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
direction to do this, I just did it for good measure figuring I would
get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the reboot,
oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't opened.  I had
to open the database as SYSDBA.

Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any directive to do
so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.

Thanks for your help and patience.

v/r

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RE: clustering

2003-07-29 Thread Matthew Zito
Title: Message




Hrrrmm 
- well, we've never seen the problem you describe, and we've got a pretty big 
RAC environment here (clusters from two to six nodes, and we combine dev 
clusters to build bigger ones as we need). What the situation you describe 
sounds like is what happens when there's interconnect failure. Each node 
thinks independently that its been separated from the rest of the cluster and 
(effectively) shoots itself in the head. This causes every instance to 
hang. This is why the crafty RAC Jedi designs well their interconnect 
architecture.

But 
yes, if you're willing to take the "completely 2n capacity" cluster route and 
have two databases, double the oracle licenses, two storage arrays, two fibre 
channel networks, etc., that is the highest availability/reliability 
cluster you can have - although at the highest cost and 
complexity.

Which 
clustering solution is right for you? Cheap and inelegant? Expensive 
and bullet-proof? Well, that's why we get paid the big bucks, right? 
:)

Thanks,
Matt
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  PoderSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:05 PMTo: Multiple 
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  clustering
  However, failed transactions must be handled from 
  client side. Queries may migrate to surviving nodes 
transparently.
  Also, currently RAC has many problems, such all 
  nodes hanging when one node dies. Completely separate systems are still (an 
  will always be) the most available solution.
  
  Tanel.
  
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:49 
PM
Subject: Re: clustering
Another Important different 
is that RAC is best High Availability solution in case of System/Instance 
Failure where in case of HP or Veritas Cluster, all of the resource get 
stopped on live system/node of the cluster and then get started on second 
node and hence user will be affected. But in case of system or Instance 
failure, there is seamless transition of the User session in RAC 
Indy Johal

  
  

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   Subject:Re: 
  clusteringak,As I understand it, an HP cluster is 2 
boxes that have the capabilityto access the same disks and data but only 
one can have the oracleinstance running and accessing the 
datafiles(active). Sort of like ahigh availability option.With RAC 
both boxes can access the instance and datafiles at the 
sametime.List, Correct me if I need it.Ron 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 12:14PM Hi Guys ,I am new 
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ur help .what is differece between oracle running on sun /hp cluster 
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RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.

2003-07-29 Thread Grant Allen
 Hi

 I use vi on Unix and textpad on windoze. I like to write macros for vi
 so it types repetitive code for me...:-), although I should
 probably use
 an editor with more powerful macro facilities.

 cheers

 Pete

Pete! Another textpad fan ... way to go!  An outstanding text editor for
windows (even better than ultraedit in my opinion)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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RE: direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hans
   I did a search on Google, and found this article:
http://www.faqchest.com/prgm/oracle-l/ora-02/ora-0206/ora-020638/ora02062414
_22868.html
(you'll probably have to patch the link together)
According to this article, your biggest and second biggest wait may be
connected.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi All,

Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack 
top-5 wait list:
Top 5 Wait Events
~ Wait % 
Total
Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt 
Time
   
---
direct path write 304,867   35,925   
49.83
log file sync 145,015   23,441   
32.52
db file sequential read11,3703,684
5.11
file open 9813,326
4.61
db file parallel write  1,8933,115
4.32

You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the 
list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore 
I'm asking the real experts.

What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event 
different from db file parallel write?
I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries.

However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.

Any suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks,
Hans de Git

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Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
I am trying to find any info on if there is a maximum number pf processors that a 
server can have and have Oracle standard edition run on it.  Just looking to see if 
there is a cutoff point in the number of processors where I would be forced to go to 
Enterprise Edition of Oracle 8i..  I'm looking through the concepts docs but have not 
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Re: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Arup Nanda
Two things to check immediately:

(1) Is the Oracle service defined as started automatically in the services?
(2) If yes, is there any error reported in alert log of the database?

Import does not shut the database down.

HTH

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 imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
 log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
 touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608
 
 Scenario:
 
 I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech), got a couple of
 warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc.  Before I ran the
 command at the command NT command level, I truncated arc_ndc via
 SQL*Plus.
 
 After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
 direction to do this, I just did it for good measure figuring I would
 get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the reboot,
 oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't opened.  I had
 to open the database as SYSDBA.
 
 Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any directive to do
 so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.
 
 Thanks for your help and patience.
 
 v/r
 
 Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC
 Data Services Manager
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Re: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Daniel Fink
Stephen,

From your email, here are the steps as I understand them:
1) run imp command
2) reboot the server (NT/Win2k?)
3) check database and find it is not open

The reboot closed the database (and probably not gracefully). When the server 
restarted, the service may have started, but the database was not opened. I know there 
are registry settings to control this, but I don't know them off the top of my head. I 
am sure someone on the list can provide them.

The bottom line...imp did not close the database, the server reboot did.

Daniel Fink


Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
 
 imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
 log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
 touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608
 
 Scenario:
 
 I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech), got a couple of
 warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc.  Before I ran the
 command at the command NT command level, I truncated arc_ndc via
 SQL*Plus.
 
 After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
 direction to do this, I just did it for good measure figuring I would
 get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the reboot,
 oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't opened.  I had
 to open the database as SYSDBA.
 
 Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any directive to do
 so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.
 
 Thanks for your help and patience.
 
 v/r
 
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 Data Services Manager
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RE: Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Onions
Last time I checked it was 4 for Windows NT/2000. Not a UNIX shop so can't
comment on that OS.

T¬
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I am trying to find any info on if there is a maximum number pf processors
that a server can have and have Oracle standard edition run on it.  Just
looking to see if there is a cutoff point in the number of processors where
I would be forced to go to Enterprise Edition of Oracle 8i..  I'm looking
through the concepts docs but have not yet found this info.

Thanks,

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RE: Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Dave - Maximum of 4 processors.
http://www.pro-dba.com/oracle_database_standard_edition.html

Dennis Williams
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I am trying to find any info on if there is a maximum number pf processors
that a server can have and have Oracle standard edition run on it.  Just
looking to see if there is a cutoff point in the number of processors where
I would be forced to go to Enterprise Edition of Oracle 8i..  I'm looking
through the concepts docs but have not yet found this info.

Thanks,

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RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.

2003-07-29 Thread Jesse, Rich
Or, for you GPL, cross-platform fans, there's NEdit at http://www.nedit.org
I've made a simple addition to it's extensible config file so that it
properly highlights all available Oracle 8i parameters when editing an
init.ora file.  My v5.3 .nedit file can be nabbed from
http://society.servebeer.com/.nedit

Look for the Oracle highlight in the file.  Any additions/corrections are
more than welcome.  Enjoy!

Rich

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  Hi
 
  I use vi on Unix and textpad on windoze. I like to write 
 macros for vi
  so it types repetitive code for me...:-), although I should
  probably use
  an editor with more powerful macro facilities.
 
  cheers
 
  Pete
 
 Pete! Another textpad fan ... way to go!  An outstanding text 
 editor for
 windows (even better than ultraedit in my opinion)
 
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RE: Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread Grant Allen
My memory is 4 ... and with typical Oracle Licensing Shennanigans attached
... I remember a few cases from 2001 where clients where arguing whether SE
could be licenced for up to and including 4, or up to but not including 4.

But given that's a two-year-old memory, I can pretty much guarantee Oracle
licencing has changed 28 times since then :-)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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 pf processors that a server can have and have Oracle standard
 edition run on it.  Just looking to see if there is a cutoff
 point in the number of processors where I would be forced to
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Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread Ehresmann, David
We are going to upgrade a server from HP10.2 to HP11 or HP11i.  There is an
old version of Oracle 7 running on the box, Oracle 7.3.2.  I looked through
Oracle's certification matrix and found nothing about HP11 and 7.3.2.  I am
not concerned if Oracle has certified or desupported this,  I just want to
know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I need to be
concerned about.

thanks,


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RE: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
I'm starting to gather that -- that the reboot did it.

Entertainingly enough I had enough presence of mind to use EM
As SYSDBA and open the database using the InitTPOCS.ora.

The users have been using the application for the last four hours
without
any issues, so, what is the graceful way of shutting down the database,
via,
EM and do a close?

v/r

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 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:09 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: Please look at this imp command
 
 
 Stephen,
 
 From your email, here are the steps as I understand them:
 1) run imp command
 2) reboot the server (NT/Win2k?)
 3) check database and find it is not open
 
 The reboot closed the database (and probably not gracefully). 
 When the server restarted, the service may have started, but 
 the database was not opened. I know there are registry 
 settings to control this, but I don't know them off the top 
 of my head. I am sure someone on the list can provide them.
 
 The bottom line...imp did not close the database, the server 
 reboot did.
 
 Daniel Fink
 
 
 Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
  
  imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
  log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
  touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608
  
  Scenario:
  
  I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech), 
 got a couple 
  of warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc.  Before I 
  ran the command at the command NT command level, I 
 truncated arc_ndc 
  via SQL*Plus.
  
  After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no 
  direction to do this, I just did it for good measure 
 figuring I would 
  get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the 
  reboot, oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't 
  opened.  I had to open the database as SYSDBA.
  
  Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any 
 directive to 
  do so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.
  
  Thanks for your help and patience.
  
  v/r
  
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RE: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
INLINE
snip
 Two things to check immediately:
 
 (1) Is the Oracle service defined as started automatically in 
 the services?

Yes

 (2) If yes, is there any error reported in alert log of the database?

Compared line-by-line the last three starts and they seem identical,
nothing unusual
in the last start.  Anyway here is today's entries:

Tue Jul 29 03:44:39 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 73
  Current log# 1 seq# 73 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO01.LOG
Tue Jul 29 03:45:00 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 74
  Current log# 2 seq# 74 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO02.LOG
Tue Jul 29 03:45:31 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 75
  Current log# 3 seq# 75 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO03.LOG
Dump file D:\oracle\admin\tpocs\bdump\tpocsALRT.LOG
Tue Jul 29 05:31:23 2003
ORACLE V9.0.1.1.1 - Production vsnsta=0
vsnsql=10 vsnxtr=3
Windows 2000 Version 5.0 Service Pack 3, CPU type 586
Starting up ORACLE RDBMS Version: 9.0.1.1.1.
System parameters with non-default values:
  processes= 150
  timed_statistics = TRUE
  shared_pool_size = 50331648
  java_pool_size   = 33554432
  control_files= D:\oracle\oradata\tpocs\control01.ctl,
D:\oracle\oradata\tpocs\control02.ctl,
D:\oracle\oradata\tpocs\control03.ctl
  db_block_size= 4096
  db_cache_size= 33554432
  compatible   = 9.0.0
  fast_start_mttr_target   = 300
  undo_management  = AUTO
  undo_tablespace  = UNDOTBS
  remote_login_passwordfile= EXCLUSIVE
  db_domain= 
  instance_name= tpocs
  background_dump_dest = D:\oracle\admin\tpocs\bdump
  user_dump_dest   = D:\oracle\admin\tpocs\udump
  core_dump_dest   = D:\oracle\admin\tpocs\cdump
  sort_area_size   = 524288
  db_name  = tpocs
  open_cursors = 300
PMON started with pid=2
DBW0 started with pid=3
LGWR started with pid=4
CKPT started with pid=5
SMON started with pid=6
RECO started with pid=7
Tue Jul 29 05:31:26 2003
/* OracleOEM */ ALTER DATABASE MOUNT
Tue Jul 29 05:31:31 2003
Successful mount of redo thread 1, with mount id 1877649006.
Tue Jul 29 05:31:31 2003
Database mounted in Exclusive Mode.
Completed: /* OracleOEM */ ALTER DATABASE MOUNT
Tue Jul 29 05:31:31 2003
/* OracleOEM */ ALTER DATABASE OPEN 
Tue Jul 29 05:31:32 2003
Beginning crash recovery of 1 threads
Tue Jul 29 05:31:33 2003
Started first pass scan
Tue Jul 29 05:31:33 2003
Completed first pass scan
Tue Jul 29 05:31:38 2003
Started recovery at
 Thread 1: logseq 74, block 202409, scn 0.0
Recovery of Online Redo Log: Thread 1 Group 2 Seq 74 Reading mem 0
  Mem# 0 errs 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO02.LOG
Recovery of Online Redo Log: Thread 1 Group 3 Seq 75 Reading mem 0
  Mem# 0 errs 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO03.LOG
Tue Jul 29 05:31:39 2003
Ended recovery at
 Thread 1: logseq 75, block 18467, scn 0.2938502
 3305 data blocks read, 3305 data blocks written, 20858 redo blocks read
Crash recovery completed successfully
Tue Jul 29 05:31:40 2003
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 76
Thread 1 opened at log sequence 76
  Current log# 1 seq# 76 mem# 0: D:\ORACLE\ORADATA\TPOCS\REDO01.LOG
Successful open of redo thread 1.
Tue Jul 29 05:31:40 2003
SMON: enabling cache recovery
Tue Jul 29 05:31:41 2003
Undo Segment 1 Onlined
Undo Segment 2 Onlined
Undo Segment 3 Onlined
Undo Segment 4 Onlined
Undo Segment 5 Onlined
Undo Segment 6 Onlined
Undo Segment 7 Onlined
Undo Segment 8 Onlined
Undo Segment 9 Onlined
Undo Segment 10 Onlined
Successfully onlined Undo Tablespace 1.
Tue Jul 29 05:31:41 2003
SMON: enabling tx recovery
Tue Jul 29 05:31:43 2003
replication_dependency_tracking turned off (no async multimaster
replication found)
Completed: /* OracleOEM */ ALTER DATABASE OPEN 

 
 Import does not shut the database down.

I didn't think so.

I'm just wondering why when I rebooted the server the TPOCS instance did
start, it is like
It didn't grab the InitTpocs.ora ...perplexed (but understandable when
you are in the constant learn mode.

v/r

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RE: direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread John Kanagaraj
Hans,

Now let me guess Your disks are all RAID 5, right? And you possibly are
bottlenecking on CPU as well? It is clear from the Top 5 that writes are an
issue across the board, to TEMP (direct path write), Redo (log file sync)
and DB files (db file parallel writes). Creating a RAID 1 set of disks and
moving at least the TEMP, RBS, Redo (and Arch if present) to this will
definitely help.

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Hi All,

Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack 
top-5 wait list:
Top 5 Wait Events
~ Wait % 
Total
Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt 
Time
   
---
direct path write 304,867   35,925   
49.83
log file sync 145,015   23,441   
32.52
db file sequential read11,3703,684
5.11
file open 9813,326
4.61
db file parallel write  1,8933,115
4.32

You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the 
list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore 
I'm asking the real experts.

What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event 
different from db file parallel write?
I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries.

However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.

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Thanks,
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RE: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread Nelson, Allan
We ran 7.3.4 on HPUX 11 and 11i.  It ran but we knew we could not relink
and we were headed for another release anyway as part of a migration.
It will run, but not recommended.

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through Oracle's certification matrix and found nothing about HP11 and
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I just want to know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I
need to be concerned about.

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RE: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread Jesse, Rich
It's a TOAD issue.  It's fixed in one of the v7.x versions.  The current
supported version is 7.5.

Rich

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 Not sure but this might have something to do with charset (if toad can
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  Hi,
 
  I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
  and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
  remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
  try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
  network datatype or representation'.
 
  I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
  SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
  default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
  Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
  from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
  have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
  you please suggest any way to rectify it?
 
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RE: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread M Rafiq
David,

You have to install 7.3.2 binaries for HP 11. Both HP 11 and Oracle binaries 
(whatever version you decide) to be installed from scratch as moving from 
from 10.20 to 11 itself is not supported. You may request support to provide 
7.3.4 version for HP 11.Down load latest patch 7.3.4.5 and apply it after 
installation.

After installing OS and Oracle Binaries , you can run migrate script on your 
7.3.2. datafiles. I don't remember we had any serious issues while migration 
from 10.20 to 11 with version 7.3.4.5 2 years back.

As I am no more working with that employer so no access of working 
paper/migration plan. However, on application side Oracle Financials 10.7 we 
applied all applicable patches after installing core product.

If you have any specific question, please let me know. I shall try my best 
to answer it based on my memory.

Regards
Rafiq




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We ran 7.3.4 on HPUX 11 and 11i.  It ran but we knew we could not relink
and we were headed for another release anyway as part of a migration.
It will run, but not recommended.
Allan

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an old version of Oracle 7 running on the box, Oracle 7.3.2.  I looked
through Oracle's certification matrix and found nothing about HP11 and
7.3.2.  I am not concerned if Oracle has certified or desupported this,
I just want to know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I
need to be concerned about.
thanks,

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RE: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread Goulet, Dick
Sounds like time to upgrade.  To the best of my limited knowledge on this, it may well 
run, but in 32 bit mode which may mean modifying the .mak files, manually.

Dick Goulet
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We are going to upgrade a server from HP10.2 to HP11 or HP11i.  There is an
old version of Oracle 7 running on the box, Oracle 7.3.2.  I looked through
Oracle's certification matrix and found nothing about HP11 and 7.3.2.  I am
not concerned if Oracle has certified or desupported this,  I just want to
know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I need to be
concerned about.

thanks,


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RE: direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
But, I would like to know how this seemingly high wait for 'direct path write' is 
affecting the
overall response time. (ResponseTime = WaitTime + ServiceTime) 

If the 'CPU used by this session' is not considered in light of these wait times, 
aren't you
getting ready to bark at the wrong tree? 

- Kirti 


--- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans,
 
 Now let me guess Your disks are all RAID 5, right? And you possibly are
 bottlenecking on CPU as well? It is clear from the Top 5 that writes are an
 issue across the board, to TEMP (direct path write), Redo (log file sync)
 and DB files (db file parallel writes). Creating a RAID 1 set of disks and
 moving at least the TEMP, RBS, Redo (and Arch if present) to this will
 definitely help.
 
 John Kanagaraj
 Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)
 Fax: 408 327 3086 (Call/Email prior to fax)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:54 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack 
 top-5 wait list:
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait % 
 Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt 
 Time
    
 ---
 direct path write 304,867   35,925   
 49.83
 log file sync 145,015   23,441   
 32.52
 db file sequential read11,3703,684
 5.11
 file open 9813,326
 4.61
 db file parallel write  1,8933,115
 4.32
 
 You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the 
 list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore 
 I'm asking the real experts.
 
 What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event 
 different from db file parallel write?
 I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries.
 
 However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.
 
 Any suggestions are very welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Hans de Git
 


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Re: Resend : Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability

2003-07-29 Thread Mladen Gogala
Or, alternatively, you could live EXTPROC where it is, no matter how 
wulnerable it is, and trust a good firewall. If you are in a commercial
environment, breaking in a box through the buffer overflow hole would
require a major talent, which is very hard to come by in these days of
cost cutting. I suggest that if anyone behind the firewall breaks in through 
that hole, that he's given a promotion to the senior programmer position
and a hefty raise.

On 2003.07.29 11:29, Arup Nanda wrote:
I sent a reply on that day. Here it is, once again.

 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:25:59 -0400
 Subject: Re: Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability
Hemant,

You are right in wondering why there are three steps.

1. The lsitener must not be listening for the EXTPROC connections - that is
the first line of defense.
2. There is no absolute need to remove from tnsnames.ora, but good to do so
as you will see later.
3. The executabe has to be removed as it could be exploited in a different
manner. Note, all security alerts are based on what is known _today_; not
what is possible. Just because the listener is not listening for the extproc
executable does not _necessarily_ indicate that it can't be used in an
attack; an enterprising hacker may find a way. If your intention is to
remove extproc, you did so by removing from listener.ora; so it is just
prudent to remove the last potential hole by removing extproc executable,
too. After all, it not useful.
Now for the other question why the alter 57 does not talk about the
listener.ora security. The alerts 29 and 57 are similar, yet different. The
alert 29 talks about a buffer overflow using the external process. The
alert 57 is about system privileges. The system privilege, create library
will alow a hacker to create a library on any filesystem that the user
oracle has privileges on, INCLUDING THE ORACLE_HOME/BIN and $OH/lib!
Therefore, imagine a hacker breaks in, creates a library that uses the
Oracle excutables and java libraries and executes them. This is a huge hole
and should be plugged by simply disallowing any user to create a library.
Take for instance, a user has to create a library to create a function for
some complex mathemetical calculation, e.g. finding the prime numbers, which
can't be done in PL/SQL. This can be done via a C++ program and the shared
object can be made availabel to ORacle using a lbrary as:
create library prime_num_lib as '/usr/ananda/lib/prime_num_lib.so';

When a user uses this library, the EXTPROC process will run the .so file on
the user's behalf. Fair enough; what's wrong with that?
What is the user (the hacker) creates a library to point to some .so file in
$OH/lib directory? You get the picture what might happen.
Another variation of the create library is

create library prime_num_lib as '/usr/ananda/lib/prime_num_lib.so' AGENT
'dblink1'
Here the Oracle server process uses the dblink to connect to another
server's EXTPROC process to executes its task. Instead of using a dblink to
another server, it may actually connect to the extproc of the same server
using the connect string defined in the tnsnames.ora. It may not exist; but
what if the hacker actually copied the exeutable to a different name,
seemingly harmless. Removing extproc from tnsnames.ora wil lplug that hole
too. BEsides, it is a good practice to remove it since the presence
indicates the usage (albeit in the past) and may give a potential hacker a
clue.
Remember, securing is not just plugging the most obvious holes; but all
potential ones. The alerts point that out.
Another thing of note here is to plug a seprate potential problem - removing
the CREATE ANY DIRECTORY privilege. This provilege creates a directory on
any filesystem accessible by oracle user. Do not grant any one this
privilege; and be very cautious while granting CREATE DIRECTORY privilege,
too.
HTH.

Arup Nanda
www.proligence.com
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 Resending this email, hoping for a reply this time.

 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:49:24 -0800
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 X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum
 X-Sender: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 From: Hemant K Chitale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Question about EXTPROC and vulnerability
 Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California
 
 
 Oracle's Security Alert #29  [Note 175429.1] on the EXTPROC recommends
the
 workaround to disable
 EXTPROC as
 1.  Removing the entry for extproc/PLSExtproc/icache_extproc from the
  listener.ora
 2.  Removing the entry from the tnsnames.ora
 3.  Renaming or removing the extproc executable
 
 Why should all three actions be necessary ?  Why not just removing the
 entry from the
 listener.ora ?  Can extproc be called without the listener configured ?
 
 Security Alert #57 just talks of the CREATE LIBRARY 

RE: Emacs on SQLPlus, er uh... SQLPlus on emacs.

2003-07-29 Thread Pardee, Roy E
LOL--I'm the sole ultraedit fan in a den of textpad users  have had
many conversations that start with the phrase yeah, but can your editor
do this

I was of the opinion that they were pretty much equal until someone
(Dennis Williams?) wrote in reminding me of ue's ability to
open/edit/save a file on a remote host via ftp.  It appears that tp does
that only w/a supporting batch file (yuck!).  

Imagine my delighted cackling, having proven once and for all that ue is
the one true windows text editor... 8^)

-Roy

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 Hi

 I use vi on Unix and textpad on windoze. I like to write macros for vi
 so it types repetitive code for me...:-), although I should
 probably use
 an editor with more powerful macro facilities.

 cheers

 Pete

Pete! Another textpad fan ... way to go!  An outstanding text editor for
windows (even better than ultraedit in my opinion)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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Re: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
We are running 7.3.4.0 on HP 11.0 with no problems at all, with compatible set to 
7.3.3.0. 
The Application uses some old OO stuff written in GemStone. 

- Kirti 


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 Oracle's certification matrix and found nothing about HP11 and 7.3.2.  I am
 not concerned if Oracle has certified or desupported this,  I just want to
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Re: Number of processors and standard edition

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Gorman
I'm pretty sure that SE will run on any size server, but you'll be charged
for EE when that server has more than 4 CPUs...  :-)

You'll see info for this at http://oraclestore.oracle.com; when you try to
price an SE license on a per-processor basis.  Click on the explanation of
User Minimums for the verbiage...



on 7/29/03 10:04 AM, Farnsworth, Dave at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I am trying to find any info on if there is a maximum number pf processors
 that a server can have and have Oracle standard edition run on it.  Just
 looking to see if there is a cutoff point in the number of processors where I
 would be forced to go to Enterprise Edition of Oracle 8i..  I'm looking
 through the concepts docs but have not yet found this info.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: direct path write waits, please help

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Gorman
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT!!!


on 7/29/03 11:14 AM, Kirtikumar Deshpande at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 But, I would like to know how this seemingly high wait for 'direct path write'
 is affecting the
 overall response time. (ResponseTime = WaitTime + ServiceTime)
 
 If the 'CPU used by this session' is not considered in light of these wait
 times, aren't you
 getting ready to bark at the wrong tree?
 
 - Kirti 
 
 
 --- John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hans,
 
 Now let me guess Your disks are all RAID 5, right? And you possibly are
 bottlenecking on CPU as well? It is clear from the Top 5 that writes are an
 issue across the board, to TEMP (direct path write), Redo (log file sync)
 and DB files (db file parallel writes). Creating a RAID 1 set of disks and
 moving at least the TEMP, RBS, Redo (and Arch if present) to this will
 definitely help.
 
 John Kanagaraj
 Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)
 Fax: 408 327 3086 (Call/Email prior to fax)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:54 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Please help me tune this i/o related wait event. This is my 8.1.6 statspack
 top-5 wait list:
 Top 5 Wait Events
 ~ Wait %
 Total
 Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
 Time
   
 ---
 direct path write 304,867   35,925
 49.83
 log file sync 145,015   23,441
 32.52
 db file sequential read11,3703,684
 5.11
 file open 9813,326
 4.61
 db file parallel write  1,8933,115
 4.32
 
 You'll notice that 'direct path write' is the most expensive one in the
 list. I cannot find enough info on the net about this wait event, therefore
 I'm asking the real experts.
 
 What events in Oracle trigger this wait event? In what way is this event
 different from db file parallel write?
 I mostly read comments that suggest lots of sorting and parallallel queries.
 
 However, most sorts are done in memory and degree = 0 for all tables.
 
 Any suggestions are very welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Hans de Git
 
 
 
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RE: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread Ehresmann, David
I found out that the OS is HP11i 64bit.  Does this change anything, or just
make it harder?
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We are running 7.3.4.0 on HP 11.0 with no problems at all, with compatible
set to 7.3.3.0. 
The Application uses some old OO stuff written in GemStone. 

- Kirti 


--- Ehresmann, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I need to be
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Re: Maximum Open Cursors on Insert Trigger

2003-07-29 Thread Jay Hostetter
Thank you for the replies.  It turn out to be a code issue.  The developer added 
olecmd.dispose(), which fixed the problem.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 11:54AM 

There are some relevant notes on MetaLink that may be of help.

Search on 'visual basic ora-1000'

Jared

On Monday 28 July 2003 07:54, Jay Hostetter wrote:
 We have a developer that is inserting a large number of records using a VB
 program.  An insert trigger exists on the table.  This trigger checks a
 parent table for records.  I know this trigger really is not needed, since
 a Foreign Key exists to enforce referential integrity, so I plan to disable
 it (furthermore, it does a SELECT FOR UPDATE, which doesn't make sense). 
 However, I'm trying to understand why the developer keeps getting
 ORA-01000: maximum open cursors exceeded during the inserts.  I've bumped
 OPEN_CURSORS up to 1000.  Is there something unique to VB that could be
 causing this problem?  I've done mass inserts before on tables that have
 triggers without running into this type of problem.  I can't see any
 problem in the trigger logic, since the cursor is always closed. This is a
 9.2.0.3 database on Tru64.

 Thanks,
 Jay

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Re: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread Jay Wade
I would recommend upgrading to 7.6.x you can download it from www.quest.com

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Subject: Re: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:49:23 -0800
Not sure but this might have something to do with charset (if toad can
handle clob??? ) .  what is db charset ? is it utf8 .
-ak

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 Hi,

 I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
 and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
 remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
 try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
 network datatype or representation'.

 I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
 SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
 default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
 Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
 from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
 have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
 you please suggest any way to rectify it?

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RE: Oracle 7.3.2

2003-07-29 Thread M Rafiq
We were using hp 11 64 bit OS but used Oracle software 32 bit because of 
Oracle Fianancials 10.7 32 but software. We also tried HP 11i 64bit OS with 
7.3.4 in test environment without any issues.

Regards
Rafiq


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I found out that the OS is HP11i 64bit.  Does this change anything, or just
make it harder?
thanks,
David Ehresmann.
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We are running 7.3.4.0 on HP 11.0 with no problems at all, with compatible
set to 7.3.3.0.
The Application uses some old OO stuff written in GemStone.
- Kirti

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to
 know will 7.3.2 run on HP11 and if there are any issues I need to be
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Inlist Iterator and NULLs

2003-07-29 Thread Daniel Fink
Is the INLIST ITERATOR unable to use the index unless we specify NOT NULL? I wanted to 
bounce this off the list before we log a TAR.

We are examining the performance of a query and I am trying to understand why an 
INLIST ITERATOR is not used if there is not an explicit IS NOT NULL predicate 
condition.

TableA.column1 is nullable, has null values and has a high number of distinct values. 
It also has a nonunique index with only column1.
The table and indexes are recently analyzed. The column has a histogram with 2 buckets.

In the query, the predicate for column1 is where column1 in ('value1', 
'value2'). Both of the values are literals and actual values do exist in the table.

If we use just this predicate (along with the other join conditions), the execution 
plan is a series of hash joins on full table scans (cost of 38756/card of 3). If we 
add and column1 is not null, the execution plan is an INLIST ITERATOR with a series 
of nested loops using index range or unique scans.

In looking at a 10053 trace file, it becomes clear as to why the query is taking a bad 
plan. The cost of a single table access is radically different.
 
With Not Null (Note the tb_sel values (which seem to be the density * # of values) are 
correct in this computation)
SINGLE TABLE ACCESS PATH
  TABLE: SERIALS ORIG CDN: 3318658  ROUNDED CDN: 2  CMPTD CDN: 2
  Access path: tsc  Resc:  7137  Resp:  7137
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_MAN_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 19877
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  6.0265e-07
  Access path: index (scan)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 5
  IX_SEL:  6.0277e-07  TB_SEL:  6.0265e-07
  Access path: index (equal)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 3
  IX_SEL:  3.0138e-07  TB_SEL:  3.0133e-07
  Access path: index (equal)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 3
  IX_SEL:  3.0138e-07  TB_SEL:  3.0133e-07
  BEST_CST: 5.00  PATH: 4  Degree:  1

Without Not Null (Note the tb_sel values are not correct. If I read this correctly, 
this is telling the CBO that there is a single value for each of the index columns)

SINGLE TABLE ACCESS PATH
  TABLE: SERIALS ORIG CDN: 3318658  ROUNDED CDN: 3318658  CMPTD CDN: 3318658
  Access path: tsc  Resc:  7137  Resp:  7137
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_EQ
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 13265
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_MAN_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 19875
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 12155
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_UC
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 7361
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  BEST_CST: 7137.00  PATH: 2  Degree:  1



The interesting thing is if I extract the access of this table to a single 
(non-joined) statement, it computes the cost and plan like I would expect. It is when 
we add in other tables and a join condition that it 'loses' its mind.

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RE: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)

2003-07-29 Thread Jesse, Rich
7.6 is BETA.  7.5.2 is the current release.  New betas appear frequently.
Also, this version is not free.  It's listed at just under $800 US.  The
freeware version is v6.x, which has the LOB bug, among a host of others.

Rich

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 Subject: Re: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)
 
 
 I would recommend upgrading to 7.6.x you can download it from 
 www.quest.com
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ORA-03115 (TOAD question!!)
 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:49:23 -0800
 
 Not sure but this might have something to do with charset 
 (if toad can
 handle clob??? ) .  what is db charset ? is it utf8 .
 
 -ak
 
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:19 AM
 
 
   Hi,
  
   I have Oracle 8i Enterprise Server, Oracle 9i Enterprise Server
   and Oracle 7.3.4 client on my NT4 machine. When I connect to
   remote/local databases through TOAD 6.5 (which supports LOBs) and
   try to fetch a CLOB value I get the 'ORA-03115: Unsupported
   network datatype or representation'.
  
   I think that this error is due to the limitation of CLOBs in
   SQL*Net 2.3 which comes with 7.3.4 client. However, I have set the
   default home to ORA_8i_HOME(which has Net8) using the 'Home
   Selector' utility. Also, TOAD is reading the TNSNames.Ora file
   from this home, so should be using Net8 rather than SQL*Net. I
   have Googled and searched Metalink, but got no clearcut reply. Can
   you please suggest any way to rectify it?
  
   Thanks  regards,
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RE: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
I'm embarrassed ...

Shutdown immediate via SQL*Plus after verifying all users have
disconnected.

v/r

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 Subject: RE: Please look at this imp command
 
 
 I'm starting to gather that -- that the reboot did it.
 
 Entertainingly enough I had enough presence of mind to use EM 
 As SYSDBA and open the database using the InitTPOCS.ora.
 
 The users have been using the application for the last four 
 hours without any issues, so, what is the graceful way of 
 shutting down the database, via, EM and do a close?
 
 v/r
 
 Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC
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  Subject: Re: Please look at this imp command
  
  
  Stephen,
  
  From your email, here are the steps as I understand them:
  1) run imp command
  2) reboot the server (NT/Win2k?)
  3) check database and find it is not open
  
  The reboot closed the database (and probably not gracefully).
  When the server restarted, the service may have started, but 
  the database was not opened. I know there are registry 
  settings to control this, but I don't know them off the top 
  of my head. I am sure someone on the list can provide them.
  
  The bottom line...imp did not close the database, the server
  reboot did.
  
  Daniel Fink
  
  
  Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
   
   imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
   log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log fromuser=tpocs
   touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608
   
   Scenario:
   
   I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech),
  got a couple
   of warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc. 
  Before I
   ran the command at the command NT command level, I 
  truncated arc_ndc
   via SQL*Plus.
   
   After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
   direction to do this, I just did it for good measure 
  figuring I would
   get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished the
   reboot, oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't 
   opened.  I had to open the database as SYSDBA.
   
   Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any
  directive to
   do so, but being new maybe there is something I don't understand.
   
   Thanks for your help and patience.
   
   v/r
   
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buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Folks,

Say a session issues a read request, and finds another session already
reading the block into the buffer cache. If this session waits N ms on a
buffer busy waits event, does this N ms of wait get added to the read
times in v$filestat?  Or is the readtim in v$filestat purely physical I/O?

Thanks
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SQL Loader problem

2003-07-29 Thread Anna Li
Hi All,

I'm trying to use SQL Loader to load data from a text file into a table.  
However, I always get error as column SKILL_DESCRIPTION field in data file 
exceeds maximum length where the column SKILL_DESCRIPTION is declared as 
varchar2(4000).  I know the data is 4000 characters, but 1000 characters.  
It was inserted successfully when I execute insert statement in TOAD as:

insert into skills_tmp values(..);

Is there any option in SQL Loader I have to set in order to load a long 
string?  Thanks for all the inputs in advance.

Anna

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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Mladen Gogala
Buffer busy wait has a different correlation with v$filestat and I/O. Buffer 
busy wait simply means that the buffer you're waiting for is pinned by 
somebody else.
There are 3 classic situations:

1) DBWR hasn't finished writing to the disk yet.
2) Block is locked by another node (OPS, RAC).
3) RMAN is writing the block. That's right, RMAN locks (pins) blocks in
   memory, otherwise it couldn't ensure consistent backup. That is the reason
   why RMAN doesn't need alter tablespace begin backup command.
To make the long story short, there is a note on metalink (Note:155971.1) with
an appropriate title: Resolving Intense and Random Buffer Busy Wait
Performance Problems. Buffer busy waits are usually a consequence of I/O 
subsystem not being to provide enough throughput to the database. What can you
do with v$filestat? You can find where are your hot spots and fix the problem.

On 2003.07.29 17:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks,

Say a session issues a read request, and finds another session already
reading the block into the buffer cache. If this session waits N ms on a
buffer busy waits event, does this N ms of wait get added to the read
times in v$filestat?  Or is the readtim in v$filestat purely physical I/O?
Thanks
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RE: clustering

2003-07-29 Thread Balakrishnan, Ashok - VSCM
Title: Message



We 
used to experience problems in our RAC environment when there's an interconnect 
failure. There's a workaround for that problem, that was worked for us 
-

Create a directory under $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms called ".aixopt". Create 
(touch) a file called SUSTAIN_IPC_FAILURE (uppercase - 0 byte 
file).


We're using 9.2.0.3 2node RAC on AIX 5L / HACMP 4.4

Does 
Sun or Tru64 have similar workarounds or does it work flawlessly without the 
workaound. Having this workaround tells RAC to make sure atleast there's one 
surviving instance in the cluster instead of all instances crashing. Here's the 
section from alert log filewith an example of handling failures of all 3 
interconnects.

Marking down Network with IP 192.168.17.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:28 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:28 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:28 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:28 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:29 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:29 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:29 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:30 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.18.11Thu Apr 10 23:29:33 
2003Marking down Network with IP 192.168.19.11WARNING!!! NO COMMON 
NETWORKS FOR ALL NODES TO COMMUNICATESUSTAINING IPC 
FAILURETHIS SHOULD BE THE ONLY INSTANCE RUNNING IN THIS 
CLUSTER

  -Original Message-From: Matthew Zito 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 9:29 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  clustering
  
  Hrrrmm - well, we've never seen the problem you describe, and we've got 
  a pretty big RAC environment here (clusters from two to six nodes, and we 
  combine dev clusters to build bigger ones as we need). What the 
  situation you describe sounds like is what happens when there's interconnect 
  failure. Each node thinks independently that its been separated from the 
  rest of the cluster and (effectively) shoots itself in the head. This 
  causes every instance to hang. This is why the crafty RAC Jedi designs 
  well their interconnect architecture.
  
  But 
  yes, if you're willing to take the "completely 2n capacity" cluster route and 
  have two databases, double the oracle licenses, two storage arrays, two fibre 
  channel networks, etc., that is the highest availability/reliability 
  cluster you can have - although at the highest cost and 
  complexity.
  
  Which clustering solution is right for you? 
  Cheap and inelegant? Expensive and bullet-proof? Well, that's why 
  we get paid the big bucks, right? :)
  
  Thanks,
  Matt
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Tanel PoderSent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:05 PMTo: 
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
clustering
However, failed transactions must be handled 
from client side. Queries may migrate to surviving nodes 
transparently.
Also, currently RAC has many problems, such all 
nodes hanging when one node dies. Completely separate systems are still (an 
will always be) the most available solution.

Tanel.

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  From: 
  Indy Johal 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:49 
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  Subject: Re: clustering
  Another Important 
  different is that RAC is best High Availability solution in case of 
  System/Instance Failure where in case of HP or Veritas Cluster, all of the 
  resource get stopped on live system/node of the cluster and then get 
  started on second node and hence user will be affected. But in case of 
  system or Instance failure, there is seamless transition of the User 
  session in RAC Indy 
  Johal
  


  
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 Subject:Re: 
clusteringak,As I understand it, an HP cluster is 2 
  boxes that have the capabilityto access the same disks and data but 
  only one can have the oracleinstance running and accessing the 
  datafiles(active). Sort of like ahigh availability option.With RAC 
  both boxes can access the instance and datafiles at the 
  sametime.List, Correct me if I need it.Ron 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/03 12:14PM Hi Guys ,I am 
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Re: SQL Loader problem

2003-07-29 Thread Mladen Gogala
Try with external tables. The best thing since sliced bread.
On 2003.07.29 17:39, Anna Li wrote:
Hi All,

I'm trying to use SQL Loader to load data from a text file into a table.  
However, I always get error as column SKILL_DESCRIPTION field in data file 
exceeds maximum length where the column SKILL_DESCRIPTION is declared as 
varchar2(4000).  I know the data is 4000 characters, but 1000 characters.  
It was inserted successfully when I execute insert statement in TOAD as:

insert into skills_tmp values(..);

Is there any option in SQL Loader I have to set in order to load a long 
string?  Thanks for all the inputs in advance.

Anna

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8.1.7.4 interim patch management strategy

2003-07-29 Thread Mandar A. Ghosalkar
Hello All,

There are 188 interim patches after 8.1.7.4 patchset. I know that
8.1.7.4 is the last patchset.

1. What methods/strategy do you'll have for installing patches on a
8.1.7.4 64 bit hp-ux 11.11 database?
2. Is there opatch for 8.1.7.4? AFAIK opatch is only for 9i.
3. Should one install all the applicable patches (around 180 individual
patches)?
pessimistic (wait for the bug to hit and db to crash)
optimistic (install applicable patches)
4. How to manage the interdependencies between these 180 individual
patches?
5. Can we create a hp unix patch depot like thing for all these oracle
patches? 

pls dont advise putting an enhancement request and upgrading to 9i/10i
:-)

Thanks,
Mandar
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upgrade to 9i

2003-07-29 Thread AK



Hi 
where can I find steps ( procedure ) for upgrading 
from 8.1.7 to 9i .

Thanks,
-ak


RE: upgrade to 9i

2003-07-29 Thread Avnish.Rastogi



If its 
not an then you can simply run catalog.sql and catproc.sql to upgrade oracle 
dictionary tables. Also during 9I installation Oracle ask to upgrade 
existing databases on that system.

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  Hi 
  where can I find steps ( procedure ) for 
  upgrading from 8.1.7 to 9i .
  
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Re: SQL Loader problem

2003-07-29 Thread Tim Gorman
Sliced bread or not, the syntax problem will be the same since external
tables are modeled on SQL*Loader syntax...  :-)

Anna, I suspect that there is confusion on the SQL*Loader concepts of
external datatypes and internal datatypes, which incidentally is shared
by external tables currently.  SQL*Loader's internal datatypes match the
standard Oracle RDBMS datatypes, but the external datatypes are something
else altgoether...

I don't have docs available, but specifying an external datatype of
VARCHAR or VARCHAR2 probably doesn't mean what you want it to mean.  If
memory serves, I think it is supposed to be a two-byte binary integer (which
is the data length) to be followed by the data itself.  Or something like
that...

Try CHAR(4000), perhaps?  The Server Utilities manual from the standard
Oracle doc-set on http://otn.oracle.com; has all this stuff in it...

Hope this helps...

-Tim



on 7/29/03 3:19 PM, Mladen Gogala at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try with external tables. The best thing since sliced bread.
 On 2003.07.29 17:39, Anna Li wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I'm trying to use SQL Loader to load data from a text file into a table.
 However, I always get error as column SKILL_DESCRIPTION field in data file
 exceeds maximum length where the column SKILL_DESCRIPTION is declared as
 varchar2(4000).  I know the data is 4000 characters, but 1000 characters.
 It was inserted successfully when I execute insert statement in TOAD as:
 
 insert into skills_tmp values(..);
 
 Is there any option in SQL Loader I have to set in order to load a long
 string?  Thanks for all the inputs in advance.
 
 Anna
 
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Re: upgrade to 9i

2003-07-29 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson



AK,

Start with Note:159657.1 on 
MetaLink.

Gudmundur

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  Thanks,
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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Diego Cutrone
Hello Raj.

BBW with a p3=0 are a consecuence of the I/O subsystem
not being able to provide enough throughput to the
database, as Mladen has said. 
But there are also many others causes for BBW. Check
p3.

Also if the session A is waiting for a buffer in the
buffer cache (that's a BBW), the buffer is already in
the BC so this session has no need (won't) to do a
physical I/O for that block. 

Another thing I think (I'm sorry to disagree with
Mladen on this) is that when DBWR hasn't finished
writing a buffer to the disk, and a session wants that
buffer in exclusive mode, there's a wait and that wait
is computed as a write complete wait and not as BBW. 

please correct me if I'm wrong.

thanks
HTH 
Greetings 
Diego Cutrone



Folks,

Say a session issues a read request, and finds
another session already
reading the block into the buffer cache. If this
session waits N ms on a
buffer busy waits event, does this N ms of wait get
added to the read
times in v$filestat?  Or is the readtim in v$filestat
purely physical I/O?

Thanks
Raj


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Re: Inlist Iterator and NULLs

2003-07-29 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Can you post the sql, or even the 10053 trace up to the GENERAL PLANS 
section. That would also answer the question which exact version/release 
of Oracle 9?

At 12:59 PM 7/29/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Is the INLIST ITERATOR unable to use the index unless we specify NOT NULL? 
I wanted to bounce this off the list before we log a TAR.

We are examining the performance of a query and I am trying to understand 
why an INLIST ITERATOR is not used if there is not an explicit IS NOT NULL 
predicate condition.

TableA.column1 is nullable, has null values and has a high number of 
distinct values. It also has a nonunique index with only column1.
The table and indexes are recently analyzed. The column has a histogram 
with 2 buckets.

In the query, the predicate for column1 is where column1 in ('value1', 
'value2'). Both of the values are literals and actual values do exist 
in the table.

If we use just this predicate (along with the other join conditions), the 
execution plan is a series of hash joins on full table scans (cost of 
38756/card of 3). If we add and column1 is not null, the execution plan 
is an INLIST ITERATOR with a series of nested loops using index range or 
unique scans.

In looking at a 10053 trace file, it becomes clear as to why the query is 
taking a bad plan. The cost of a single table access is radically different.

With Not Null (Note the tb_sel values (which seem to be the density * # of 
values) are correct in this computation)
SINGLE TABLE ACCESS PATH
  TABLE: SERIALS ORIG CDN: 3318658  ROUNDED CDN: 2  CMPTD CDN: 2
  Access path: tsc  Resc:  7137  Resp:  7137
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_MAN_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 19877
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  6.0265e-07
  Access path: index (scan)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 5
  IX_SEL:  6.0277e-07  TB_SEL:  6.0265e-07
  Access path: index (equal)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 3
  IX_SEL:  3.0138e-07  TB_SEL:  3.0133e-07
  Access path: index (equal)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 3
  IX_SEL:  3.0138e-07  TB_SEL:  3.0133e-07
  BEST_CST: 5.00  PATH: 4  Degree:  1

Without Not Null (Note the tb_sel values are not correct. If I read this 
correctly, this is telling the CBO that there is a single value for each 
of the index columns)

SINGLE TABLE ACCESS PATH
  TABLE: SERIALS ORIG CDN: 3318658  ROUNDED CDN: 3318658  CMPTD CDN: 
3318658
  Access path: tsc  Resc:  7137  Resp:  7137
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_EQ
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 13265
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_MAN_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 19875
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_SER
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 12155
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  Access path: index (no sta/stp keys)
  Index: SERIALS_UC
  TABLE: SERIALS
  RSC_CPU: 0   RSC_IO: 7361
  IX_SEL:  1.e+00  TB_SEL:  1.e+00
  BEST_CST: 7137.00  PATH: 2  Degree:  1



The interesting thing is if I extract the access of this table to a single 
(non-joined) statement, it computes the cost and plan like I would expect. 
It is when we add in other tables and a join condition that it 'loses' its 
mind.

Thoughts? Need More Detail?
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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Mladen Gogala
That's On 2003.07.29 19:59, Diego Cutrone wrote:

Another thing I think (I'm sorry to disagree with
Mladen on this) is that when DBWR hasn't finished
writing a buffer to the disk, and a session wants that
buffer in exclusive mode, there's a wait and that wait
is computed as a write complete wait and not as BBW.
DBWR works in 2 phases:
a) It scans for dirty buffers and pins them.
b) It starts IO, usually using writev.
If IO has been launched and not yet finished, then the wait is
write complete wait. If IO hasn't been started yet, we have buffer busy.
This write complete wait became essential with the advent of
asynchronous I/O. I was just simplifying things, nothing else.
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RE: Please look at this imp command

2003-07-29 Thread Rachel Carmichael
don't be... this means you are doing something we strongly advocate on
this list... reading the manuals and learning.


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  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:39 PM
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  Subject: RE: Please look at this imp command
  
  
  I'm starting to gather that -- that the reboot did it.
  
  Entertainingly enough I had enough presence of mind to use EM 
  As SYSDBA and open the database using the InitTPOCS.ora.
  
  The users have been using the application for the last four 
  hours without any issues, so, what is the graceful way of 
  shutting down the database, via, EM and do a close?
  
  v/r
  
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   From: Daniel Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:09 PM
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   Subject: Re: Please look at this imp command
   
   
   Stephen,
   
   From your email, here are the steps as I understand them:
   1) run imp command
   2) reboot the server (NT/Win2k?)
   3) check database and find it is not open
   
   The reboot closed the database (and probably not gracefully).
   When the server restarted, the service may have started, but 
   the database was not opened. I know there are registry 
   settings to control this, but I don't know them off the top 
   of my head. I am sure someone on the list can provide them.
   
   The bottom line...imp did not close the database, the server
   reboot did.
   
   Daniel Fink
   
   
   Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:

imp tpocs/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
file=c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.dmp
log= c:\Latest_Reference_Files\pharm_jul_2003.log
 fromuser=tpocs
touser=tpocs tables=arc_ndc commit=y ignore=y buffer=8388608

Scenario:

I ran this command (as instructed by the tier III tech),
   got a couple
of warnings but it did import 28K plus rows into arc_ndc. 
   Before I
ran the command at the command NT command level, I 
   truncated arc_ndc
via SQL*Plus.

After the command completed I rebooted the server, there was no
direction to do this, I just did it for good measure 
   figuring I would
get a clean oracle instance going.  When the server finished
 the
reboot, oracle wasn't up -- or I should say the database wasn't
 
opened.  I had to open the database as SYSDBA.

Did the imp command close the database?  I don't see any
   directive to
do so, but being new maybe there is something I don't
 understand.

Thanks for your help and patience.

v/r

Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC
Data Services Manager
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RE: upgrade to 9i

2003-07-29 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Are you missing something in your reply?

If its not an then. 

From migrating 8.1.7 to 9i, one has to follow prescribed procedure. 
To my knowledge one needs to run u0801070.sql after starting the 8i database in 
'migrate'
mode...etc.. etc... I have the GUI thing, sorry! 

- Kirti

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 If its not an then you can simply run catalog.sql and catproc.sql to upgrade oracle 
 dictionary 
 tables. Also during 9I installation Oracle ask to upgrade existing databases on that 
 system.
 
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 Hi 
 where can I find steps ( procedure ) for upgrading from 8.1.7 to 9i .
  
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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Prem Khanna J
Gogala,

quote
RMAN is writing the block. That's right, RMAN locks (pins) blocks in
memory, otherwise it couldn't ensure consistent backup. That is the reason
why RMAN doesn't need alter tablespace begin backup command.
/quote

I have read that RMAN has the advantage of not generating excessive redo
which alter tablespace begin backup does.

When RMAN locks a data block while backup and suppose if some data is 
to be written to the same data block,what happens now ? 

1.where will the data be until RMAN releases the lock ?
2.will this be a wait event.if so,how can it be identified ?

Sorry,if i sound silly.
i am going thro' the RMAN book by Robert Freeman and so curious to know ?!

Regards,
Jp.

30-07-2003 06:49:23, Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buffer busy wait has a different correlation with v$filestat and I/O. Buffer 
busy wait simply means that the buffer you're waiting for is pinned by 
somebody else.
There are 3 classic situations:
1) DBWR hasn't finished writing to the disk yet.
2) Block is locked by another node (OPS, RAC).
3) RMAN is writing the block. That's right, RMAN locks (pins) blocks in
memory, otherwise it couldn't ensure consistent backup. That is the reason
why RMAN doesn't need alter tablespace begin backup command.
To make the long story short, there is a note on metalink (Note:155971.1) with
an appropriate title: Resolving Intense and Random Buffer Busy Wait
Performance Problems. Buffer busy waits are usually a consequence of I/O 
subsystem not being to provide enough throughput to the database. What can you
do with v$filestat? You can find where are your hot spots and fix the problem.



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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 2003.07.29 21:36, Prem Khanna J wrote:
Gogala,

quote
RMAN is writing the block. That's right, RMAN locks (pins) blocks in
memory, otherwise it couldn't ensure consistent backup. That is the
reason
why RMAN doesn't need alter tablespace begin backup command.
/quote
I have read that RMAN has the advantage of not generating excessive redo
which alter tablespace begin backup does.
When RMAN locks a data block while backup and suppose if some data is
to be written to the same data block,what happens now ?
The answer is very simple: write will wait until block is released
(un-pinned). Locks, latches and pins exist to prevent data corruption
from the simultaneous access. Those mechanisms are, essentially, serializing
the access to the critical resources. There is a very nice book, an oldie but 
goodie, that I read once upon a time, called Modern Operating Systems, 
written by Andrew Tannenbaum. 

1.where will the data be until RMAN releases the lock ?
2.will this be a wait event.if so,how can it be identified ?


Data will wait in user buffers. Yes, it will be a wait event, and same with 
the DBWR, when the buffer is pinned, it will be a buffer busy, and when I/O
is in progress, it will be write complete.


Sorry,if i sound silly.
i am going thro' the RMAN book by Robert Freeman and so curious to know ?!
Bob Freeman's book is an excellent book which helped me understand and write
a few RMAN scripts. It is neither intended nor very good at thorough 
explanation of oracle kernel. For that, there is Steve Adams and his book.
I'd also like to abuse this occasion and ask Steve whether he plans a revised
V9 (or 10x) edition?


Regards,
Jp.
30-07-2003 06:49:23, Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buffer busy wait has a different correlation with v$filestat and I/O. Buffer
busy wait simply means that the buffer you're waiting for is pinned by
somebody else.
There are 3 classic situations:
1) DBWR hasn't finished writing to the disk yet.
2) Block is locked by another node (OPS, RAC).
3) RMAN is writing the block. That's right, RMAN locks (pins) blocks in
memory, otherwise it couldn't ensure consistent backup. That is the
reason
why RMAN doesn't need alter tablespace begin backup command.
To make the long story short, there is a note on metalink (Note:155971.1)
with
an appropriate title: Resolving Intense and Random Buffer Busy Wait
Performance Problems. Buffer busy waits are usually a consequence of I/O
subsystem not being to provide enough throughput to the database. What can
you
do with v$filestat? You can find where are your hot spots and fix the
problem.


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Re: buffer busy waits and v$filestat

2003-07-29 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanks a lot for your explanation Gogala.

Eagerly waiting for Steve's revised edition of Oracle Internals.

Regards,
Jp.



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Re: Index Usage ?!

2003-07-29 Thread Prem Khanna J
Once again thanx a lot Tanel for spending your 
precious time to make me understand.

Regards,
Jp.

28-07-2003 22:59:25, Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The point is, that index access is cheap in reality, but CBO thinks it's
very expensive and chooses next best executin plan in it's opinion, but this
opinion is actually wrong, because unset optimizer_ parameters for example.
One more thing, your test query returned no rows, it could be that with
index access Oracle didn't even have to visit any table blocks because no
relevant keys found in index. But when you'll have keys matching your query
conditions in future, index access might get slower as well (here's where
clustering_factor comes into play).

Without analyzing, the index cost in reality is still low, and with
super-optimistic default statistics CBO luckily picks that path.

No, according plan in your orignal post, index range scan was used.
Btw, I submitted a simple research about CBO table/index access costs to
comp.databases.oracle.server yesterday under subject 2 Oracel doubts, you
might want to read that one as well to get more understanding on your issue.

Tanel.



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Re: Problem with Autotrace - Is this a BUG ?

2003-07-29 Thread Prem Khanna J
The user is able to query the v_$ views and statistics are
(Bexplained properly.
(B
(Blet me enable "Event 10046" and see what happens.
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(BHm, but try to query sys.v_$session sys.v_$sesstat and sys.v_$statname views
(Bunder cti user.
(BIf it works, then enable event 10046 at level 4 before you set autotrace on
(Band check trace file (maybe there are some parse errors for example)
(BIt could be a bug, or just change in behaviour when enabling tracing. Did
(Byou actually try, that in 9.2.0.3 tracing works as expected?! Maybe in newer
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