RE: Reboot Solaris and Oracle 9i install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, October 13, 2003 11:44 said; > Solaris, I believe, uses the System V shutdown command. Although you > could use init to switch to the appropriate reboot runlevel, the typical > way to reboot a Solaris system is: > # /etc/shutdown -i 6 -g 0 -y > I'll assume you haven't mucked with your inittab. > (This provides no grace period for users to log off. Adjust -g > appropriately.) For some reason, my habit is to use the init commands (init 6 for example) to restart workstations, and /etc/shutdown for workstations. Is there any reason the list is aware of to prefer one over the other? ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Cary's book - Rapidly moving OT....
Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, October 03, 2003 12:09 PM > Well I've brought my share of children into the world, thats for > sure I'd wager I have more than just about anyone else here on Oracle-L > in fact... Anyone have more than 5?? I've six here. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Off Topic: PC Firewall Recommendation
KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 29, 2003 9:05 AM said; > I have a Dell 8200 with XP Prof. SP1. > I would like recommendations as to a good firewall for this machine. XP has a firewall but it is not the greatest. ZoneAlarm on the desktop - free version or pay to upgrade to the pro version. Assuming you have a home network, you also want to buy a DSL/Cable router - which has it's own firewall built in. If you're feeling frisky, consider replacing the router/firewall with a PC (with 2 nics) running BSD or Linux. You can also find distros tweaked to act as a firewall/router - that's what I've done. FWIW, a friend of mine had his XP system plugged directly into his RR connection. Friend said he didn't need a firewall or router (I'm not into that security crap, I just want to play games). Friend has now had to reformat his box (and lost work) because his box was rooted, blasted and fubared within days of hooking it to the cable connection w/out a firewall. YMMV. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: Offshore protests
Weaver, Walt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 22, 2003 12:35 PM said; > I used to belong to a union. One day the union told us to go on strike, > and we did. > 22 years later, we're still on strike. I'm sure we'll be going back to > work any day now. Then I can quit this temporary IT career I've been > working at for 22 years now. > Unions suck, IMHO. Worst career move I ever made was joining a union. There is a downside to unions. I read an article (Atlantic maybe) that reported in some cases it was more profitable for the union membership to go on strike and shut down the business - senior members got unemployment, benefits from the state for being on strike, early retirement and etc. Younger members lost their job. On the upside, there is no doubt in my mind that any benefits you have at your current job are the result of Unions and related groups agitating for better working conditions lo' these many years ago. On the gripping hand, the Federal Employees Union and Coffee Break society (FDIC Branch) created some of the worst working conditions I've seen - for the non-Union (contract) labor working alongside them. Can't spend funds to buy a guy lunch in recognition of his long service (five years!) because he's non-union. Contract employees have to have their office window closd off with a partition wall because the Rules state contractors don't _get_ windows. Etc. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Cron question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM said; > Hallo, > anyone whom could help me with this. > I am trying to use crontab -e to start a procedure. but I cant get it right. > Anyone whom could help me with the command how to write if I want a program in unix to be scheduled to > run > every monday at 6 o´clock in the morning? I hate to be one of those annoying RTFM types but this is pretty basic stuff if you're going to be doing anything at all in Unix. This is teach-a-man-to-fish type stuff. At the command shell type the following, your answers are there. $HOST:/:# man cron brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Question about unix
Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, September 12, 2003 9:19 AM said; > 3 different files, having the same name in the same directory? Only > Microsoft > can do that, but only if you buy "enterprise wide license" for Windows, > Exchange and SQL*Server. (blink) is that an example of subtle humour? Maybe I need to get some more coffee ... ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Question about unix
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, September 12, 2003 6:59 AM > Hallo everyone, > I have a unix question, hope you can help me. Maybe this is too simple but would appreciate any help. > I would like to rename the files konkurrenter.txt.1,konkurrenter.txt.,,konkurrenter.txt.3 to be > renamed to konkurrenter.txt at the same time. > So the result would be 3 files, every one of them would be named konkurrenter.txt > cp konkurrenter.txt.* konkurrenter.txt > Hope anyone could help me. I'll take a stab at it. If you want 3 files to be renamed 3 seperate files, with identical names, you'll need to park them in seperate subdirectories. cp file1 /dir1/filenew cp file1 /dir2/filenew cp file3 /dir3/filenew Assuming that I have misunderstood your query, you can concatenate 3 files into one cat file1 file2 file3 > filenew I must be missing something ... Brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to send an email from unix command line?
is sendmail running? $HOST:/ps -ef | grep mail root 250 1 0 Aug 24 ?0:00 /usr/lib/sendmail -bd -q15m root 2358 2295 0 08:18:42 pts/10:00 grep mail man mail or pester your admin if all else fails. For example we disable sendmail unless it's required. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi List I tried the following stuff but it says "Service Unavailable". $mail -s "Test Subject" [EMAIL PROTECTED] body line1 body line2 Ctrl-D What should i do to make email stuff work? Thanks in advance Sami __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Oracle DBA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Remote Installation of Oracle on Win2K
david davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, September 08, 2003 10:29 AM > Has anyone performed a remote install of Oracle 9i onto a Windows 2000 > Server using PCAnywhere or know if it will work? The only gotcha would be if 'Anywhere isn't configured to restart when you reboot. I'm installing (minor example) the 8i client by remote control (but not Anywhere). Brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Net App Filer
Gunnar Berglund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, September 05, 2003 5:24 AM said; > is anyone using Net App Filer -products with Oracle environment. Yup. Hosts a horde of databases for a medium sized outfit - pehaps 3000 employees, 24/7 manufacturing. > What do you think? I like it but I'm not the DBA. It works for us, but might not be right for a bigger company. That said, most companies in the US ARE our size .. or smaller. > Advantages Snapshot. Best damn way to backup a box yet. We 'snap' at 12 hour intervals, it's a breeze to restore. Off course, we still have tapes. It's Unix, underneath. Web Mgt interface makes doing admin chores easy. Just Works - mount the Filer drives as NFS mounts from the host. Support; Net App knows about problems at the same time we do. A few times our POC has gotten to work and found out about potential problems from a chipper voice mail from Net App. > Disadvantages It was difficult getting to know the Filer at first - we had a difficult time wrapping our heads around the whole idea. Our DBA was .. dubious at best about the prospect. I think we've won him over. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Urgent INFO needed.
onsulting 614-791-9000 It's all about the "CACHE" -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: Oracle on Win2000
Prem Khanna J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 AM said; > Bala,my reply is also the same as John said. > "PC Anywhere or the console straightaway" My favorite for remote console access on W2K is TightVNC - http://www.tightvnc.com/ - or the 'ol standby, NetMeeting. We use DameWare - http://www.dameware.com/ - as well for remote access. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: How to keep "root" out?
Replying to the original post; Walter K <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thursday, August 28, 2003 6:34 PM said; > Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the Unix "root" user from logging into the > database (i.e. connect internal or / as sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here. > We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to "help" by writing their own DB monitoring > scripts. Of course, they don't know what they're talking about. My perspective is as the system admin who owns the boxes where the databases live, and as caretaker of some of the applications aboard those servers. You can jump through hoops to keep root out of the database, but you run the great risk of locking yourself out of the database if as a last resort access is somehow removed for all users. That is what root is for, after all. If you can't trust your admins, you've got bigger problems than this. My suggestion (echoed by others here) is to work with your admins, and tell them why what they are doing is a bad idea. If you can give them their own 'backdoor' to the database or a safe way to view the data, you'll both be better off. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Performance Problem
'Laura' On Monday, August 25, 2003 1:49 PM said; > We currently have an application we are trying to speed up. In > researching rule/cost based optimizers, I read that the cost based > optimizer was the way to go (although rule had its moments) because that > is where Oracle would be focusing any upgrades, enhancements, etc. > The database is Oracle 8.0.5. This weekend I will be upgrading to > 8.1.7. The operating system is NT 4.0. Does anyone know something that > could point me in the right direction? Thank you for your help. Worth pointing out that a number of things could be slowing your application ... OS, RAM, processor, network connections, time of day and end user perception to name a few. Before diving into the code (so to speak) you did verify that none of the other factors are at work, I'm sure ... ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Auth via Active Directory
Scott Lamb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, August 15, 2003 6:49 PM said; > Is there any way to get Oracle 8i (or 9i; we're planning to upgrade) > Enterprise Edition to authenticate against Active Directory, short of > buying Oracle Advanced Security? What we're planning on doing (note, planning is subject to budget and friction) is build a SunOne LDAP server and bounce the Oracle OID against _that_. LDAP because we have a small horde of apps that speak LDAP but for various reasons don't like Active Directory. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Job Needed
Perhaps the most telling statement about the state of the economy today. Job, singular. On DICE. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dice had a job somewhere in Ohio yesterday. --- Kevin Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hear the job of Prime Minister in England will > probably be open soon. Any > political ambitions ? > > -Original Message- > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 12:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Greetings! > > I hope Jared doesn't kick me off the list for this, > but I was just layed off > this morning and am now in the need of a job. I have > over 10 years of > experience with Oracle, mostly using SQL and PL/SQL > as a developer, but the > last 2 years have been as a development support DBA. > I am currently in > Columbus, Ohio but am willing to relocate to most > places in the South-East. > > I would appreciate any leads that can be thrown my > way > > Thanks > Kevin Toepke > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Kevin Toepke > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web > hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Kevin Lange > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web > hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). > = Pete Barnett Lead Database Administrator The Regence Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Peter Barnett INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix tip for oracle
-Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 4:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Working on an wrapper for Oracle functionality. Any of the Unix guru's know if you can highlight or set text blinking in the korn shell in unix? Brian - "It'd be an abomination!" - Lilo But if you really want to this PDF seems to provide the gory details; www.understudy.net/files/custom.pdf Brian D. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: why SAN ? why not external storage ?
-Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There are many things I don't get in this life. One of them is the statements about disk storage being an admin nightmare and way too expensive. Aren't disks very cheap these days?! Mogens "Disks" are cheap. Reliable storage isn't, not really, not for large organizations. brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on a SAN.... Good, Bad or Proceed with caution?
-Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L NetApp SAN? My understanding of NetApps was that is strictly NAS: Network Attached Storage. Basically, JBOD with NIC. SAN's offer quite a few more management and configuration options than NAS. Jared >There is a lot more to NetApp's Filer than JBOD with a NIC. We looked at both - SAN and NAS as done by NetApp one year later we're sold on NetApp. NetApp has all of the management/DR features we'll need, and some of the NetApp specific features have saved our collective tails on a few occasions. YMMV, but for an organization that's our size, SAN was overkill. brian< -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Who Owns Unix?
-Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Per the below link, SCO owns Unix and they're suing IBM for a paltry $1Billion: http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/03/06/HNsco_1.html How can this be? Which part? SCO owning 'Unix' or SCO suing IBM for the paltry $1 billion? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE:
I've had those days too. Send the mail to /dev/null, forward the phone to the receptionist (not the sharp one, the one who doesn't know what's going on) and call it a day. brian -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:51 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L HELP -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix research source ???
>Any OS that comes with the same set of utilities and, on the surface, >looks like Unix, gets called Unix by non-sys admin users, even though >there is only one vendor that can legally call its OS Unix. AIX, >Solaris, HPUX, and Linux are NOT Unix; and you're not likely to see an >experienced sys admin call them Unix. Unless we're talking to the 99% of humanity who give us funny looks for being pedantic about the 'unix-like' OS we happen to be supporting this month. Or we're sending our out our "HR resume" (as opposed to our "Technical Manager" resume). It's damned annoying to have an HR drone assume you can't do the job because they are filling for "Solaris 8" and you've got on your reusme "SunOS 2.8, Linux, AIX, BSD etc." -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: iAS 903 902 install
Sympathies are in order. Prior to September, 2002 I'd never touched the pesky thing. $WORK send me to the 9iAS (R2) course, after which of course it was decided we'd stick with R1 until the Fat Lady sings. I'm still groping, trying to figure out why the consultants and developers set things up the way they did. Things I've learned the hard way -Metalink < http://metalink.oracle.com/> is your friend. It can be like trying to sip from a firehose at times, however. -Oracle 'likes' fully qualified domain names, and doesn't seem to be aware of this mysterious thing called 'DNS'. - You will never, ever be able to make any changes in an installed 9iAS server without bringing the house of cards down. Don't even think of trying to move directories and symlink to them. -Oracle, as a company, doesn't like system administrators. Why else make such a wanked product that defies Best Practices for admin and is so entrenched you can't eradicate it with dynamite? -Everything is, or will be, a database, even stuff that isn't or shouldn't ever be. See above. Brian -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List: I'm touching iAS for the first time ever. I don't understand even basic stuff about it. The install I have includes 9.0.2 and 9.0.3. The install says "9.0.3 is the first J2EE 1.3 compatible release of Oracle9iAS. ..blah blah.. Oracle9iAS 9.0.3 contains only the J2EE and Web Cache Installation Type of Oracle9iAS and is compatible with Oracle9iAS 9.0.2 infrastructures for clustering, management, and security." Do I need to install 9.0.2 and then install 9.0.3 on top of it to get everyting I need? We're currently in an evaluation phase. Developers want iAS to deploy forms, portal, and build apps with java. I have 9.0.3 installed, but don't really understand what I have, and we're not able to launch a form. Thanks for any help! (This is the most frustrating, confusing product I've ever seen) Barb __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Barbara Baker INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9iAS if you want list
FWIW, our habit has been to install 'everything but the kitchen sink'. IIRC, you get four options on 'what' to install in 9iAS, and only the 4th and most complete option is functional from a dev POV. Again, for example, Portal is available by default in the 4th and most complete install option. I had a question much like yours, and our wizard consultant said it wasn't worth the effort to even try. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List, i have access to a server that has 1 GIG memory and I will be loading Linux on as the OS. I would like to load 9iAS and allow the developers the ability to start learning to use Portal to create a browser based database access method. Is there a list that will cross reference from "If you want to do this" you need to install this option when you install Oracle 9iAS? I feel that the more you install that you do NOT need the more you complicate everything. I have searched the Oracle site and read the majority of the docs that i could find but I still am not clear what has to be installed on the 9iAS and database to accomplish what I would like. Thanks, Ron -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Orawomen
Title: Message "manual"?? Details? -Original Message-From: Spears, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:04 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen The public education is so pathetic... I took the mannual produced by US scientists I guess commissioned by the Senate (or something like that) and used it to teach my daughter to read grade 3 level a 4 years old in 4 months spending only 20 minutes a day with here.. very easy to do. Will the schools use this manual? My daughter in grade 2 or 3 rated better than 97% of her peers in the US at that age level. My brother did the same with his daughter and gave her some computer game to teach reading.. and she is even better off.. I mentored kids who had trouble in math and physics for 10 years... and the same problem every time...smart kids with mental blocks developed by the school system. I can't talk about it.. its so pathetic. Brian -Original Message-From: Jeremy Pulcifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:49 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen I don't like feeding an OT too much, but... People wonder why I am completely self-taught. I wonder where they were taught, because the time I spent in primary and secondary school was a complete and utter waste of time. It wasn't until I took a few classes of "higher" education at a decent school that it even occured to me that it is possible to learn something from a lecture or classroom setting. Ugh. Sure glad my daughter's school system seems to be better than average. If I were forced to live in the school system I grew up in (Britton-Macon, Michigan), I'd home-school her. -Original Message-From: Kevin Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen April, I could tell back when I was in 8th grade that the Teaching System in Texas was a joke. I moved from Missouri to Texas that year and went from a math class where we were doing geometry, trig, and algebra to a math class where they were teaching the Metric System. This was back in 1975. -Original Message-From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:35 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen Be glad that you aren't in Texas. I DESPISE the testing system here. I realize that to a great extent it is needed (there are high school JRs who can't divide 6 by 3 and get an accurate answer) but they TEACH to the TEKS (or whatever the stupid name is this year). My 8 year old came home in tears because she was going to flunk 3rd grade (she came home in OCTOBER telling me this) because she went from getting an A in math to getting a B when they started division. The logic in stressing her out like this? "We have never taken this test before, and we want to maintain our perfect school rating"... if our kids aren't perfect then we aren't perfect and we will loose our status in the community. She got a B... and it wasn't even on her report card as a B... just on a test... she's 8. I would hate math and school too if all that mattered to anyone was "the" test and the stellar reputation of the school. Sorry... sore subject. LOVED logic! If A then B, If B then C, A therefore C... all dogs are animals with fur, but not all animals with fur are dogs! April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein -Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Orawomen I don't know about you, but the first time I took a logic course it was in university... It seems to me it would be fun for high school students to take newspaper or magazine articles (Teen magazine comes to mind) and pull them apart to show that statement B doesn't necessarily follow from the previous paragraph, etc. In our logic class we had a lot of fun examining statements made by "pundits" in the media. But ooops! Logic falls under philosophy, that's not teachable in the public system, seen as irrelevant. Logic is done by unconscious habit by most people it seems to
RE: Orawomen
Just asking .. I'm told that the number of "Americans" (by which I mean kids born in the States) entering technical fields of all types is declining. Could the decline of the number of women in IT entering IT be a part of that trend? For that matter, I wasn't really called on much in school (and glad for it, I wasn't usually paying attention), nor did my teachers encourage me that I can recall for anything in particular. Yet, here I am, earning a living doing computer stuff. If 'girls' (or boys, see para 1) aren't encouraged in technical matters, perhaps it's a problem beyond the scope of an overworked and underpaid teachers? Please note, I speak as a father of six and the husband of an (former) educator. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think that within the population of women in IT, the number of female Oracle DBAs is increasing. However, in general, the number of women entering IT is decreasing. That is, the number of women who are encouraged to become DBAs or developers or network admins or sys admins is decreasing. I've noticed (I have a friend with a 13 year old son and a 16 year old daughter) that the schools are not encouraging girls to go into science or math. There have been studies done that show that teachers in those fields tend to call on the girls in the class less and spend less time helping them understand the subjects. My opinion only Rachel --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The > consensus was > that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here > is an > article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in > IT is > decreasing. > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501 > Any theories? > > Dennis Williams > DBA, 40%OCP > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Any Collaboration Suite or 9iAS listservers?
Question for the group; If there are no listservers/mail lists specific to 9iAS/'managing Oracle from a System Admin POV' ... would there be an interest in subscribing to such a list? I've learned a LOT from this list, but I'd estimate 60% - 70% of the content is of no interest to me at all, as I'm not a DBA or a developer... thanks, ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Does anyone know of any Collaboration Suite or 9iAS specific listservers? I tried subscribing to the webcys_l listserver but it appears to be inactive. TIA... Michael D. Gilly Sr. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Backup DB files to the Tape
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RE: Giving back Perl
I'm interested, send at your convenience. And . "Oracle Diaper Administrator" ... Diaper ??? As in what my 3 year old has stopped needing at night? ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello everyone - I've been trying to write more Perl lately and after showing my Perl mentor some of the stuff I had written over the last couple of weeks the first thing he said was "why don't you give back to the community". So I figure if I offer up my latest creation I could 1. give back and maybe help a person or two and 2. receive comments on my coding. My coding style is rather simplistic and I would appreciate any comments about what I'm doing wrong/how something could be done differently (TMTOWTDI), etc. My environment is W2K sp2/8.1.7.2. I slapped together a script that fires backup controlfile to trace (including the stored proc) and ftp's it off to another server. If anyone is interested in seeing it please email me directly. Lisa Koivu Oracle Diaper Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Backup DB files to the Tape
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RE: password
Exploit is, I believe, the proper term. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/exploit.html ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't know if 'crack' is the right word. It just tries words from the dictionary until it finds one that encrypts to the same value. Keith - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:09 AM > Hmm... > > Well maybe you *can* crack oracle passwords. > > I've just ordered the full version of this product. ( $4, I don't > think I need to bother the purchasing department ). > > I'll let you know how it works. > > Jared > > > > > > "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 12/17/2002 06:23 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: password > > > Yes, you can do this, but it still doesn't tell you the users *current* > password does it? > > Has anyone tried: > > http://home.earthlink.net/~adamshalon/oracle_password_cracker/ > > ? > > Mark > -Original Message- > Sent: 17 December 2002 13:59 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > And you can use it to change it to your convenience and later > get this encrypted password "IN" without the knowledge of > the user.. > > Regards > Jai > > > > Paulo Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 12/17/02 06:08 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:RE: password > > > > nope u can get the encripted password from the oracle dictionáry > -Original Message- > Sent: terça-feira, 17 de Dezembro de 2002 11:34 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Check the post-it note on their monitor? > > :) > -Original Message- > Sent: 17 December 2002 10:55 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > he can't but he can change it to a new one and then put the old back on > -Original Message- > Sent: terça-feira, 17 de Dezembro de 2002 4:09 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > how can a dba see the password of a user. > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* -- Please see the official > ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: faisal ahmad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network > Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > - To > REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the > message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of > mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP > command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: password
I thought (for a micro-second, and very smug I was too) that we'd be more-or-less safe from crack attempts as we're going to be using in 9iAS R2's Active Directory bit to authenticate from our AD servers. But, thought I, the AD implementation on Oracle is a sub-set of master LDAP - they're not banging on the read AD tree, just a select set OF the tree. Which means .. someone using this crack tool on an Oracle server running the AD/LDAP authentication can crack the AD/LDAP tree? Tell me if I'm right or not ... our AD admins aren't going to be happy. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hmm... Well maybe you *can* crack oracle passwords. I've just ordered the full version of this product. ( $4, I don't think I need to bother the purchasing department ). I'll let you know how it works. Jared "Mark Leith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/2002 06:23 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: password Yes, you can do this, but it still doesn't tell you the users *current* password does it? Has anyone tried: http://home.earthlink.net/~adamshalon/oracle_password_cracker/ ? Mark -Original Message- Sent: 17 December 2002 13:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And you can use it to change it to your convenience and later get this encrypted password "IN" without the knowledge of the user.. Regards Jai Paulo Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/17/02 06:08 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:RE: password nope u can get the encripted password from the oracle dictionáry -Original Message- Sent: terça-feira, 17 de Dezembro de 2002 11:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Check the post-it note on their monitor? :) -Original Message- Sent: 17 December 2002 10:55 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L he can't but he can change it to a new one and then put the old back on -Original Message- Sent: terça-feira, 17 de Dezembro de 2002 4:09 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L how can a dba see the password of a user. The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: faisal ahmad INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
An Oracle list _just_ for system administrators?
All, I've gleaned a great deal from this list, but my actual interest in things Oracle revolves around the Application Server. I don't want to be a DBA or programmer, as much fun as it (hah) looks. Is there a list devoted to the topic of System Administration for Oracle? Brian Dunbar System Administrator - Plexus -- >From a Sun Microsystems bug report (#4102680): "Workaround: don't pound on the mouse like a wild monkey." -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Sun Solaris
SunHelp. Oddly enough, when I asked _them_ for a list just like theirs, but for Oracle, they directed me to Oracle-L.. http://www.sunhelp.org/lists.php Also useful for the knowledge of all things geeky are Recsue and Geeks, same page. ~brian -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List, Does anybody know a Sun Solaris e-mail list/forum that's useful like this one is for Oracle? thanks, David Ehresmann -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ehresmann, David INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs - HELP!
I had problems running Exceed XWindows and the 9i V2 installer - turned out the TCP/IP stack on my W2K system was fubar'd - uninstalled, reinstalled TCP/IP then I could run the installer and X-Window. ~brian -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:34 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs - HELP! Apparently there are some problems running eXceed and Oracle 9i V2 Oracle installer. I went back to using a Xwindows from a Unix console to do the install. Now I am trying to find a way to run dbca from Windows for Unix database - must be a way - huh. -Original Message-From: Hemant K Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:54 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs - HELP!Is "clientip" the Unix server or or [Windows] client ?If it is the Unix server, you need to run "xhost +"e.g. if you have logged in to the Unix server through atelnet session and set DISPLAY=client:0.0, prior todo so, you must run "xhost +clientip" from your Unix server X console.If "clientip" is your Windows client, you must be runningReflection X [or eXceed ?] on your PC --- I am talking ofthe X-server program, not the telnet client.HemantAt 11:01 AM 10-12-02 -0800, you wrote: Guys, I followed the instructions but still got: Xlib: connection to "clientip:0.0" refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server xhost: unable to open display "clientip:0.0" I think I am missing one of the e-mails. Tried running to root, changing exceed configuration (xfile). Do I need to just do this at console?-Original Message- From: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs Agreed Jared. I was playing the percentages for the sake of a quick, clear answer. In my experience most of the time it's going to be root. Cheers, Mike -Original Message- Sent: 26 November 2002 17:44 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Mike, Not necessarily. It depends on who started the Xsession. I regularly run 'xhost' on my workstation as a non-root user. Root is unable to do so on the same machine. Jared "Hately, Mike (NESL-IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/2002 07:54 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: Oracle 9i installation - Basic Qs Hi, you'll need to be signed in as root in order to run the "xhost +" command. The rest of that looks fine so : as root : xhost + as oracle_user : export DISPLAY=:0.0 xclock (to test yopur X config) NB Exceed has its own array of bugs when used with the Oracle installer. Good luck and I hope the 9i instaler handles Exceed better. regards, Mike Hately -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Hemant K ChitaleMy web site page is : http://hkchital.tripod.com-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hemant K Chitale INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Discoverer 4i Plus - timeout warning change?
My developers (I'm the hapless sys-admin) challanged me with this. I've searched metalink and googled .. perhaps I'm not feeding Oracle-ese into the search terms? "There is a timeout warning (on $HOST running Discoverer 4i Plus) that occurs ~ 1 minute before the session timeout. Can this warning be increased to 5 minutes?" Thanks in advance. Brian Dunbar System Administrator - Plexus -- Sometimes, when your cat is washing himself, he will stop and stare at you as if he just remembered someting. -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: clustering Win2000 Oracle DB Server
-Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All! Could some one pointed me to the good source of info about clustering Win2000 Oracle DB Server? Thanks. Greg. There _are_ some interesting articles from OpenWorld ... http://www.oracle.com/oracleworld/sanfrancisco/conference/ems_search.html ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: how to download all the openworld documents?
-Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Try this link: http://www.oracle.com/oracleworld/sanfrancisco/conference/ems_search.html I went to openworld.oracle.com , and click my way through to get to the above link. Gillian Thanks for the link - the documents I've looked at so far are great. It _would_ be nice to get the entire bundle in .pdf format and zipped but I'll live with this. Memo 1: to Oracle - there's a bit of revenue you're missing by not charging a nominal fee for the bundle. Memo 2: not all of us are enamored of the .doc format nor do we all have Word handy. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: raw versus Mounted File Systems
-Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Mark - Thanks very much. You are right, that Cary guy really nails those >performance issues. The original paper date is 1992. I guess that if you say >something about Oracle over 10 years ago and it is still relevant, that >would have to qualify as a classic. I submit it is the relevance of UNIX that makes the paper a classic. If Oracle existing solely on another OS (Windows?) then this paper would be no more relevant that a whitepaper on Banyan Vines. ~brian -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Brian Dunbar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
