RE: Data Purging Strategy

2002-11-06 Thread Conboy, Jim




  A 
  poor man's solution might be to load the offline database with appropriate 
  data, then do a tablespace export and store the results on CD labelled by 
  date.  Restoring needed data would entail a tablespace import of stuff 
  from the appropriate CD into the offline DB.  I'm sure here's some 
  gotchas involved but some variation on that theme might 
  work.
   
  Jim
   
   
  -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman 
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  Data Purging Strategy
  This is a data-archival requirement, not a 
  data-purge requirement.  It only resembles a purge requirement based on 
  the multiple-database-migration strategy you outlined.  There are 
  alternatives...
   
  Depending on the volume of data in your database 
  and your availability requirements, implementing table- and index-partitioning 
  will likely be crucial.  One strategy is to have the 
  most-active tables partitioned by a date column and have different sets of 
  these partitions reside in time-variant tablespaces.  With this 
  arrangement, you can archive data to tape by simply setting the archived 
  tablespaces to READ ONLY and then migrating them to tape-based (instead 
  of disk-based) file-systems and bringing them back online.  Legato has 
  this file-system technology (recently purchased) and there is a 
  share-ware product called SAMFS which is an HSM (hierarchical storage mgmt) 
  filesystem used by some vendors (i.e. StorageTek, etc).  By setting 
  tablespaces to READ ONLY it becomes very easy to move them from disk to tape 
  while retaining them within the same original database, simplifying the task 
  of later retrieval (which is really important).
   
  Of course, Oracle's partitioning option is 
  enormously expensive, but in this case it is a matter of the upfront license 
  costs (with reduced downstream implementation costs due to 
  simplicity) versus a large downstream application-development 
  cost.  In this situation, I think roughly offsets everything.  Since 
  I'm not spending the money, I can afford such a calculation...  
  :-)
   
  With the various storage technologies available, 
  a single database can straddle several simultaneously, optimizing performance 
  or cost as needed.  Some files might reside on solid-state NVRAM 
  "disk", some on SAN-based disk, some on NAS-based storage, and then finally 
  reside in archive media file-systems such as tape or magneto-optical based HSM 
  file-systems.
  
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Subject: Data Purging Strategy
Dear List, 
I need some inputs from you all 
regarding purging data from the database. This is the requirement We define a retention period for all the data in the 
system. When the retention period is 
reached,  the data should be deleted, but then at a later time, some 
user might request for this purged data. So it must be possible to retrieve 
this data. This is the strategy 
we have designed for this. When 
the retention period is reached, move the data from the main database to an 
offline database. Then delete the data from the main database. 
In the offline database, we 
cannot again keep it from long, so it has to moved to tapes. Now my 
question, how can we move this data to tapes and at the same time retrieve 
data from the tapes based on dates. i.e, the user will ask for the data on a particular date, so it must 
be possible to retrieve data from the tapes based on a date and load it to 
the database tables. Regards Prem 
 


RE: ORA-01031: insufficient privileges

2002-10-18 Thread Conboy, Jim


Wow.  That is a perfectly logical and amazingly simple explanation I would never have 
thought of.  I am in awe.

Jim 


Chris,

   The answer may be in what occurs below the water. Remember that
RESOURCE is a bit special (here for Oracle 5 compatibility reasons),
that it is one of the two (I think) 'roles' which cannot be granted to a
role and that the reason I suspect it cannot be is that it grants
'unlimited tablespace' underhand. An hypothesis might be that RESOURCE
was granted and then UNLIMITED TABLESPACE revoked by a DBA unwilling to
see the user pollute any tablespace.

It behaves like what you witnessed :

SQL> create user demo identified by demo;

User created.

SQL> grant create session to demo;

Grant succeeded.

SQL> grant resource to demo with admin option;

Grant succeeded.

SQL> create user demo2 identified by demo2;

User created.

SQL> revoke unlimited tablespace from demo;

Revoke succeeded.

SQL> connect demo/demo
Connected.
SQL> grant resource to demo2;
grant resource to demo2
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01031: insufficient privileges

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RE: DBA work load - BDBAFH #1

2002-09-30 Thread Conboy, Jim


The phone rings.  Another user.  Still pissed off, I pick it up...

"Database Administration, can I help you?" I answer professionally.

Troubled silence on the phone.  Politeness is a very bad signal from me and they know 
it.  He was rattled.

"Uh, hi, this is Joe, technical lead on that super-critical project for Benefits?  Is 
this a good time?  I have some stuff I need moved to production?"

The last was a statement, but it came out like a question.  With a slight quaver in 
the voice, too.  Excellent.  Technical lead my arse.

"Could you be more specific so I can schedule you appropriately?"

He hesitated.  Gosh, I sounded for real.  I almost convinced myself.  The victim 
approached warily.

"I've got a bunch of PL/SQL packages and some outlines to speed up the queries with 
special hints.  The scripts are all ready for your review, they include the create 
statements, the grants, everything.  I'm forwarding the email package to you with 
signoffs from IT, the user department, and your own from reviewing our design and test 
results".  This last was delivered with almost pathetic eagerness.  Good boy.  Good, 
simple, foolish boy.

If he could see me he'd be terrified by my grin.  "Joe, I need you to help me out.  
You've just given me 10 minutes of work, but I'm due for lunch in 5 minutes.  What do 
you suggest I do?"

Joe knew better, he really did.  But his team had been up all night finishing and the 
prize was so close...

"Look, I really hate to impose.  But we've missed several major deadlines, and 
department head has made it clear if we screw up again he'll outsource the whole 
project and have us laid off.  I need it now so we can make sure everything's perfect 
for the big production run at COB today".

"Consider it done,"  I promised cheerfully and hung up.  I surprised him, and maybe 
myself, with my good spirits.  Especially since I was more than 5 minutes late, closer 
to fifteen, and my buddies were already into their second beer when I joined them for 
lunch.  But the extra 10 minutes had been well worth it considering what I managed to 
do to those hints with the outline editor.  Just the same, though, I turned off my 
cell phone in case the twit called to find out why his 5-second queries took almost an 
hour.  Can't have him taking me for granted, can I?

Later that evening, after quaffing several (all right, numerous) more ales with the 
boys, I dialed in from home to check how things were going.  Mr. Tech Lead was still 
logged in, no doubt desperately trying to determine why things were taking forever.  
Poor Mr. Tech Lead, another sleepless night.  I logged off, turned out the light, and 
slept like a baby.

Next morning, hangover.  The phone rings.  I snatch it up angrily...
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RE: Followup: Apache core dumps after IP address change (solution)

2002-09-17 Thread Conboy, Jim

Bruce-

Glad you worked it out.  Actually, this problem can be worse than you saw.  Apparently 
9iAS V2 contains some sort of hardware dependency (somewhere in the JDK encryption 
algorithms).  The net result is that you can have a full, good backup of your Apache 
server but if that physical hardware dies it can't be successfully restored to a new, 
even identical, box.  The startup command for Apache needs to login to OID but somehow 
the encrypted OID password fails if the hardware is different.  I've even heard 
(completely unconfirmed) rumors that certain types of hardware changes on a server can 
trigger the problem. Not a reassuring scenario for disaster recovery, eh?

Jim 

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Thanks to everyone who suggested ideas for my "emergency" yesterday.  The problem only 
became obvious after a complete reinstall of Oracle on my server.  I took this 
approach after finding a thread on the ODTUG-JAVA-L mailing list that talked about how 
9iAS Rel 2 has hardcoded values for the IP address.  The thread indicated that there 
was no way of changing the IP address of a server short of a complete Oracle 
reinstall.  After literally exhausting all other ideas of my own (and needing to get 
the server back up asap), I reinstalled Oracle 8.1.7 last night on a new partition.  
Once the default installation finished, everything worked fine.

After restoring my schemas and other configurations, things still continued to work 
fine.  Apache continued to start without core dumping and life was good.  The moment I 
moved my old httpd.conf file back into place, Apache core dumped.  Clearly, it was no 
longer an issue of hardcoded IP addresses, so I started taking the httpd.conf file 
apart into small pieces.

The culprit was an upgrade RedHat Network passed along to PHP4 and glibc about a month 
ago.  I allowed the PHP4 upgrade and glibc library upgrades to be installed.  Apache 
continued to run using the old libphp4.so module without problem, but the moment I 
would have had to either reboot the server or restart Apache, it would have died 
because the libraries had changed.  Adding PHP4, BTW, is a custom enhancement I made 
to the stock 8.1.7 Apache config as I need it on several parts of my server.  I found 
the latest libphp4.so file, moved it into the /u01/.../libexec directory, restarted 
Apache and all was well with the world again.  17 hours of work later, I believe I 
have things as they should be once again.

Lesson learned: if Apache core dumps (something I haven't seen it do in years) when 
restarting after a long period of uptime, then suspect a module/library problem.

Side note: if anyone wants to know every nook and cranny where Oracle stores your IP 
address and domain names, I can tell you that now. :-)

Thanks again!
bruce

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RE: Oracle Arm Twisting?

2002-08-14 Thread Conboy, Jim

"I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months."

Ah, my friend, but you're not using Portal 9.0.2, are you?  I've opened more TARs in 
the last few months than the rest of my Oracle career.  Bleeding edge, I guess, so 
maybe its our own fault.  But third-party support for this would have stopped the 
project before it got started.

I agree that its not accurate to generalize all tech support as nimrods.  There are 
some very good ones out there, and even the rest at least have acccess to all the 
internal notes we can't get to (Gr...why the hell do they show in metalink 
searches if we can't see them?).  And the developers, if you can ever get to them, 
know their stuff and are a pretty decent bunch.

Jim

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Well, that's not really fair.  There are a number of good people
that work for Oracle Support.  True, there are also some that
are subpar, but how often is it necessary to open a TAR anymore?

MetaLink has vastly improved over the past couple of years.

I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months.

Some excellent in depth posts that you may have seen on this
list were put there buy Oracle support personnel. 

No, I'm not saying who they are.

Jared





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Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons.  However one thing 
you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third party support 
is bug fixes and product upgrades.  If you want this without a support 
contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you upgrade. 

Rodd 

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote: 
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> Now they say, that this can't be done and the product license will be
> terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle support is 
useless(I
> get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it, just in case.

Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if
you think their support is that bad: fear of not having
support that you don't want because you think it's bad.

Q:  Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for
Oracle?

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RE: OEM changes

2002-07-23 Thread Conboy, Jim

Now please, please tell me you don't REALLY talk about this geeky stuff at parties!

Jim

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Wish I could. This was at a party, and the person speaking was an
Oracle employee. We were talking/ranting about how often Oracle changes
things and he mentioned that OEM was changing AGAIN. That's all he said

Rachel
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> 
> Could you shed any light on the changes they are proposing?
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RE: Where is Oracle 9.2 init.ora?

2002-07-11 Thread Conboy, Jim

Dennis-

With 9i you have the option of using init.ora or the spfile.  DBs created with the 
assistant I think use spfile by default.  To make the change you want, issue the ALTER 
SYSTEM blah blah SCOPE BOTH to make the change both immediate and permanent.  SCOPE 
MEMORY changes it immediately but only until reboot, SCOPE SPFILE changes the 
initialization file but won't take effect until reboot.

Jim

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For Oracle 9.2 (Solaris), can anyone tell me where Oracle is expecting the
init.ora file?

I created the database using dbca. It created an init.ora in
admin/{db_name}/pfile. I moved this to $ORACLE_HOME/dbs and renamed the
original init.ora file. Then I discovered that Oracle is not reading the new
init.ora. The database starts fine, with no errors. I tried moving the
init.ora file back to the original pfile location, but it is still not
reading it. Specifically, I am trying to set LOG_ARCHIVE_START = true, but I
have made other changes and they are not taking effect either.

I have searched the documentation, and while there is the new SPFILE, there
is no indication how this might affect my problem.

Any insights from someone that has turned archiving on with 9.2 would be
appreciated.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 20% OCP
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RE: runInstaller

2002-07-09 Thread Conboy, Jim

But how ridiculous is it that you need a "really hot machine" to get good performance 
just INSTALLING the darn thing?

As an aside, the 9iAS v.2 installer does an outstanding job with the database install. 
 Unfortunately it falls apart when you have to install all the patches, but its a 
definite step in the right direction.

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You might look at silent mode install, Note:73510.1

I have found that on really hot machines oui is a screamer.  It could be 
your system needs a facelift.




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RE: Oracle Financials Sys Admin. Needed in South Carolina

2002-04-29 Thread Conboy, Jim

Michael-

'Taint no "tax free" states, sometimes they just hide it better how they get you 
(sales tax, property tax, personal property tax, gasoline tax, etc.)  Except for maybe 
Alaska, as long as the oil keeps flowing.  But I know what you mean.  

Anybody who moves based solely on these calculators needs their head examined.  But 
they can in fact provide useful information.  $75K in Spartanburg doesn't look to be 
below-market.

Jim


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The only problem with this line of thinking is the federal government.  They
seem to take out the same amount for federal taxes as well as social
security no matter where I live.  If this is truly reflective of the cost of
living there then I better automatically receive a check just for being a
resident (which is actually the case in Alaska).  Doubtful at best.  Does
anybody know if SC is a tax-free state like Texas and Tennessee?  

I can see using a salary calculator to convince your spouse that it is a
good idea to move.  Otherwise I don't they relect real life.

Just my 2 cents.

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As evidence of this, HomeFair.com's salary calculator says a salary of
$100,000 in Manhattan is equivalent to $32,000 in Spartanburg.  Doubt this
is accurate to the penny, but if even close it sounds like $75K has you
living like a king (or queen) in Spartanburg.

Jim

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RE: Oracle Financials Sys Admin. Needed in South Carolina

2002-04-29 Thread Conboy, Jim
e.

*We pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
Thanks,
Bill Law

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RE: Dbms_job not running

2002-04-19 Thread Conboy, Jim

Are there any jobs running?  There's a couple of init.ora parameters that must be set 
first.

Jim

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If the parameters suggested are already set up right , I have one more thing
to ask...

1. is this something do with the DB Link ???
2. if so , the user running the job is having any private DBLINK ???

--Madhu

PS: If the DB LINK is used to run this job , you need to have a private
dblink created for the user running the job.

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Hi,

We have a job own by user MTSSYS which  we scheduled to run every 1 minute
but it is not running itself.
If we run the job manully from sqlplus it runs fine.
What can be the reason that job is not running itself???
Interval is set to SYSDATE+1/1440

Thanks
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RE: initjvm and rmjvm failing

2002-04-18 Thread Conboy, Jim

Note 159801.1 (Full JVM Removal on 8.1.7) on Metalink may help.  Haven't tried it 
myself but I fear I'm about to.

Jim

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Hi All

I am trying to add Java support to one of the databases and it keeps 
failing. It seems that after the first run it didn't get it right and 
rmjvm doesn't seem to run properly after. there still appears to be a 
large bunch of objects in the database. Any ideas as to how to clean it up 


I can rebuild it if i need to, this is more of a learning task, I normally 
create them with Java in the first place.

Any ideas

8.1.7 on Solaris 8

Thanks


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RE: Calling SQL statement

2002-03-14 Thread Conboy, Jim

There was just the ticket in an Oracle mag online piece by Ian Craig a
while back.

http://www.oracle.com/oramag/webcolumns/2001/index.html?op_unixway.html

A trivial example from the article:


print "select * from dual;" | sqlplus -s scott/tiger

produces the following output: 

D
-
X


Jim

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!/bin/ksh
sqlplus / <>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/02 06:26AM >>>

Hi all,
How do I issue SQL staments to the Oracle server from shell scripts
-preferably korn shell. Example scripts highly welcome.

Thanx 'n Ciao
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RE: Oracle Hungry for Money

2002-03-13 Thread Conboy, Jim

"For some reason there has been a great confusion..."

I believe that's exactly the point.  Oracle installed this extra-cost
option by default, for no other defensible reason then to encourage its
unwitting use.  There's a reason there has been confusion.  They're like
a drug pusher, first one's easy but once you're hooked you PAY.  And
unless you know where to look its not so easy to find info on Metalink
for what are the options for each DB version.  I don't know what the
original meaning was behind 'feeling tricked', but I guarantee you there
are some on this list who've just realized they've been tricked into
using an expensive add-on product they may not be able to back out of at
this point.

Jim


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While I agree Oracle is avaricious and sales reps are a smarmy lot, I
don't see any entrapment here.  If you believe you are licensed for an
option and you are not, it is perfectly legitimate for Oracle to ask for
you to pay for that license and any maintenance costs.  $23,800 is
cheap, must be a 20 named user license.   They are not asking for
payment for all the years it had been illegally installed?  Consider
yourself very lucky and Oracle anything but greedy.

"Feeling tricked" implies that had you known that you were not licensed,
you would not have divulged it to Oracle.  If so, you are lower than a
smoldering heap of parrot droppings.  However, as it was indeed an
innocent mistake and no such characterization is necessary.

For some reason there has been a great confusion over whether the
partitioning option costs extra.  Even some of the most knowledgeable
DBA's in the world were mistaken on this.  The height of this
misunderstanding was a two to three years ago.  I expect there were
hundreds perhaps thousands of sites who have installed partitioning
without a license because they  believed it to be free.


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RE: Rollback Segments

2002-02-18 Thread Conboy, Jim

Holy cow Mladen, what a memory!  

Does anybody else remember (or admit to) using UFI?

Jim

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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Conboy, Jim

I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott was
an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually meeting
Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many urban
legends surrounding this.  

Jim

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Anyone out there know the history of this?
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RE: RE: HP vs SUN for a UNIX box

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