Re: Suggestions Needed: Latch free - library cache
Rachel, I think we had a similar situation in my previous life, when we had to get the programmers to modify their code to trace specific areas of the application. The way we went about doing this (in this case they had a concept of using a catalog.xml file where all the SQL queries got stored and the Java called specific queries identified by TAGS) is define the 10046 event in the catalog and called the on off routines using specific TAG's to trace. query name="traceTurnOn" sql![CDATA[ alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level 12' ]]/sql /query query name="traceTurnOff" sql![CDATA[ alter session set events '10046 trace name context off' ]]/sql /query Java code snippet to invoke the trace queries: stmt.executeUpdate(sql); where sql is the 'traceTurnOn' or 'traceTurnOff' queries retrieved from the catalog,xml file mentioned earlier. Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having worked in an environment where every user was a distinct nameduser, and I therefore could (and at points did) have something 1700distinct connections (yes, I said one thousand seven hundred).I like connection pooling. It limits the stress on the database,because the number of sessions is limited to the maximum of theconnections. And I do work with them on that.It has its drawbacks. Most notable, and one I did not get a good answerto at the Server Technology Forum at UKOUG, is that you cannot reallydo a 10046 trace on a session, as you can't distinguish sessions. Gajasays you can do that in 10g but telling me to upgrade to anot-yet-released piece of software doesn't help me now.I'm working on a way around that, I *may* have one, but it's untestedfor the moment (I have to bully the programmers into changing code,which is as likely to happen as it is for me to win the lottery withoutbuying a ticket). In any case, connection pooling appears to be the way of the future forforward-facing web applications, so we have to deal with itRachel--- Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: how do you feel about connection pooling? Our software engineers implemented that here? Am I wrong to be concerned about large numbers of users using the same named user? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 6:39 AMSteve, By "distinct user" do you mean distinct username? Or sid/serial# combination? In my case, we use connection pooling, while there may be up to 300 sessions, they are all the same named user. ! ; Rachel --- Steve Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Hi All, Someone has alerted me to this thread, and asked for a comment. On a quick scan, and it seems to me that you've mostly got it right. The "problem" is that when an SQL statement that refers to its base objects via public synonyms is shared by multiple distinct Oracle users, then name resolution and permission checking need to repeated for each distinct user, and because the results of these actions are cached on the shared cursor, they increase the cost of subsequent such operations. That is, public synonyms cause extended latch retention as well as additional latching. For example, if 500 distinct users share 200 SQL statements that refer 300 times to 100 base tables via public synonyms. Then there will also be 100 * 500 non-existent objects in both the dictionary cache and the library cache; 200 * 500 cursor authorization structures; and 300 * 500 negative dependency records in the library cache. These last two things are cached as segmented arrays that are scanned linearly - thus the increased latch retention. If your application doesn't have hundreds of distinct Oracle users, or if you can afford the extra latch gets and longer latch retention, then you will probably not notice all of this unless you start
doing library cache dumps. That is, the use of public synonyms is a major scalability threat, but does not normally cause performance problems. @ Regards, @ Steve Adams @ http://www.ixora.com.au/ - For DBAs @ http://www.christianity.net.au/ - For all -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Steve Adams INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - ! To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).__ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus --
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If you leave in and around the Charlotte area or in a reachable distance and have not heard throughthe user group'sregular e-mail invitations here is the opportunity. Cary presents for the Charlotte Oracle Users Group on Thursday January 8th - for more details visit www.cltoug.org Murali Vallath President, Charlotte Oracle Users Group. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes
TNSPING VS. REGULAR PING..! WHY SUCH A DIFFERENCE
I have recently noticed in this one situation that there is a great difference between a tnsping vs a regular ping to the same server. for example this tnsping took about 270 ms which is strange and its consistent Used TNSNAMES adapter to resolve the aliasAttempting to contact (DESCRIPTION = (ADDRESS_LIST = (load_balance = on) (failover = on) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST= myhost1.com)(PORT = 1521)) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = myhost2.com)(PORT = 1521))) (CONNECT_DATA = (SERVICE_NAME = xyzdb) (FAILOVER_MODE = (TYPE= SELECT) (METHOD = BASIC) (RETRIES = 20) (DELAY = 15OK (270 msec) and a ping to the same host Ping statistics for x.x.x.x: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 61ms, Maximum = 70ms, Average = 67ms Why could there be such a difference? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times Square
Re: Re: 24 x 7 x 365
Tanel, If this is the approach, then quite a bit of code would have to be developed on the front end to handle transaction integrity. For example when one fails and the other has completed the write successfully, they will have to be physically removed.What about if the record that is commited was already read by another session. Basically avoiding any orphan records or avoiding data reconciliation between the two. I also agree with Jonathan, while two phased approach is used for such kind of activities, there could be tremendous overhead depending on how intensive the transaction rates are. Murali Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan,Thanks for this valuable information.However, I'm using regular commits, not "distributed" two-phased ones and Ijust have simple code to handle the situation where servers return differentsuccess/error codes.Tanel. There is a problem with this approach that may only become apparent at high concurrency. Since you are operating with two-phase commits, you may come up against the case where "writers block readers". Your client issues a commit to both servers. Each server get the PREPARE message, and when both have responded, each gets the COMMIT message. Between the PREPARE and COMMIT, any blocks updated in the transaction cease to be available to ANY query that started after the PREPARE arrived. For the (hopefully) brief interval between the prepare and commit, neither database knows whether the transaction as a whole has prepared or committed, so any process that wants to see the current version of the data has to wait until there is a known current version. In a high-concurrency system, a problem that used to be "buffer busy waits" on updates only can turn into enqueue waits on updates and queries. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the person who can question the answers -- T. Schick Jr One-day tutorials: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html Three-day seminar: see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html UK___November The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 8:19 PM Yep, I also think so. I'm currently developing a small prototype for this kind of transparent proxy, which I'll post here when it's stable... Tanel. Tanel, I think this is a good solution, provided the application can handle two phased commit protocol across both the databases, else there could be orphan records on one or both these databases. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City ! Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Tanel PoderINET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing
Re: 24 x 7 x 365
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Re: 24 x 7 x 365
If this is the customer you are talking about, this database supports over 12 million subscribers.. Murali Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I mentioned a few minutes ago in another thread, there is an application using Oracle Rdb on an HP OpenVMS cluster located at HP in Colorado Springs that has been up and available continuously for the past 11-12 years.on 12/10/03 2:49 PM, Goulet, Dick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True 24x365 is just about impossible. No if, ands. or buts about it. Why is because of the number of factors outside your control that affect system availability. Sure your web sever and database are up 24x365, but your ISP has 1 hour down time each month for maintenance. OOPS!! from a customer point of view your NOT 24x365. Also that fiber optic cable running out of your building to the phone pole is available for some heavy equipment operator to slice through while working on the sewer system, OOPS!! So you can't have 24x365 no matter what. What you should do is try to adapt the changes you need into the downtime that's imposed on you. That's what we do it works very nicely.Besides being completely redundant is extremely expensive, like two of everything, including building, air-conditioning, fiber ! optic cables, etc.Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message-From: Tracy Rahmlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 24 x 7 x 365Hello, Our company would like to know whether or not Oracle supports true 24x7x365 availability for an oltp database. We currently are using the 8.1.7 enterprise edition. Does an architecture exist whereby we can upgrade the database and/or operating system and not cause an outage? Will RAC solve this issue? Are there any other areas of concerns that I should be thinking about? For example, analyzing with the validate clause and its impacts on the transaction system. Thanks American Express made the followingannotations on 12/10/2003 09:41:15 AM--**"This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use, or distribution of the information included in this message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank you."**====== Murali Vallath Author: Oracle Real Application Clusters Publisher Digital Press http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2V5D30UGVSisbn=182885itm=4#PU Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing
Re: what is oracle rdb?
Well said Mogens, I have been following your thread. I have worked with Rdb for several years it is an excellent product and thank GOD that they did not allove MS or CA or for that matter IBM to buy it. It would have been shot down to non-existence several years back. Murali Mogens_Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, why did they do the right thing here, but not in other places? Very good question. Oracle has bought many, many companies and products over the years...One splendid thought I just had: Because it never became something to handle high up in the organisation, hence it never became a political issue, and therefor most of the BS has been avoided.Nothing - nothing - beats leaving the folks alone to do the job. That's why the bearded fellows have kept working at the NEDC (New England Development Center), as I think it's called.MogensThater, William wrote:Mogens Nørgaard scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQin Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named afterThe Bill). yes i'm sure it's not named after me... oh you meant the other bill.;-) Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and againafter taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded,bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New EnglandDevelopment team. They let them get on with what they did best: Writenew features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed itinto Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I havenever, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Askthe Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you theystill trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. i wonder why this one worked and the other's haven't? what made this onedifferent? i can't say the Oracle has exhibited this kind of integrity inother places. Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? well, i don't know about him, but i found it interesting.--Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED]SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! - KenThompson -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?=INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Author: Oracle Real Application Clusters Publisher Digital Press http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2V5D30UGVSisbn=182885itm=4#PU Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
BR Benchmarks
Does anyone have any benchmark numbers for a BR operationof a 3TB Oracle database? I understand this depends on several environmental conditions. If anyone of you has had a need to do a restore of 3-4TB Oracle database and would not mind sharing some of your thoughts that would be wonderful. Thanks, Murali Vallath Murali Vallath "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi. Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears
New global RAC-SIG and discussion forum
Hello listers, At OW, SF RAC users, IOUG and Oracle put their heads together to launch a new RAC-SIG. IOUGhas started aRAC-SIG list server for its members.http://www.ioug.org/ioug_p/dynamic_pkg.show?v_name=DISPLAY_RAC_SIG Last week the RAC-SIG took a global turn, it wasofficially launched at the OW, Paris with the help of EOUGfolks. With the new globalRAC-SIG, weare happy to announce the launch of a newglobal RAC-SIG discussion forum, thathas no strings attached. Its a technical forumand requires no membership. You can reach thisdiscussion forum at www.oracleracsig.org Regards, Murali Vallath President - RAC-SIGMurali Vallath "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi. Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears
Re: submitting statspack.snap through dbms_job
If you are not already aware there is an spauto.sql in the $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin directory which could be modified with the following for example: next_date=trunc(sysdate)+10/24, interval='trunc(sysdate)+10/24'); Regards Murali Zabair Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question, I want to submit statspack.snap at 10:00am and 14:00pm through dbms_job, it's friday afternoon and my head is hurting me from a heavy night and the manuals are as clear as mud. Thanks Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experienceMurali Vallath "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi.Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!
Re: SunCluster 3. 0 Veritas File system RAC
You will be better off recommending veritas file system, you can assure yourself of some good performance matrix and easy transisition and off course some good nights of sleep. Allowing Sun to manage the file system or for that matter the raw partitions is a nightmare. I am speaking from experience. Since vertias was not available until recently went with SUN raw devices and hmmm! makes me wonder why is Sun into this clustering business. Regards Murali Vladimir Barac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using this configuration? Since I would like to avoid raw partitions, I was thinking of recomending Veritas File system... Is it certified / working? Anyone working with such combo? I will fire metalink page soon, but would like to have some input from listers! Thanks, Vladimir BaracMurali Vallath "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi.Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!
Re: Temporary Tablespace and RAC
Hello Ashok What are u seeing to make you believe that you need separate temp segements per instance? Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:14:18 -0800 Is there a way in RAC that I can create 2 TEMP tablespaces which can be explicitly assigned to separate instances of RAC. Or is there a way that to specify the size of the instance-specific temp segments? If I have a TEMP tablespace with a size of 10GB, how can i split it between 2 instances with 5GB each. We're using 9.2.0.2. Are there any white papers that talk about how TEMP is managed in RAC? As I understand it, if you have a single TEMP tablespace, there will be 2 temp segments created under the TEMP tablespace specific to each instance and extents will be allocated from those segments to each instance's session, but Oracle doesn't allow for TEMP space to be pre-allocated between instances. Depending on the instance-specific TEMP segment's requirements, it allocates and deallocates automatically between segments. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
fgac tracing
I remember seeing someone mention the event number to tracing a session to capture fine grained access control activity. Does anyone remember! Thanks Murali Vallath _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle Tools - OEM 4.0
If you wait for another couple of months you may have OEM 4.0 which has a considerable amount of enhancements including supports for PDA's and the basic version comes with the enterprise edition. Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 03:49:26 -0800 Hi gurus, Is there any Oracle tools available to use it in Handheld Computers.(like PDA or IPAQ) Thks in advance _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
V$ARCHIVED_LOG question
Oracle 9i has quite a few new columns added to the V$ARCHIVED_LOG dictionary view,however there is no documentation. For example, END_OF_REDO, ARCHIVAL_THREAD#,ACTIVATION# Any clues on what these columns mean. Thanks Murali DEST_IDTHREAD# SEQUENCE# END BACKUP_COUNT ARCHIVAL_THREAD# ACTIVATION# -- -- -- --- --- 1 2 48 NO 12 3612293975 1 1116 NO 11 3612293975 1 2 49 NO 12 3612293975 1 1117 NO 01 3612293975 1 2 50 NO 02 3612293975 1 1118 NO 02 3612293975 1 2 51 NO 02 3612293975 1 1119 NO 02 3612293975 1 2 52 NO 02 3612293975 Murali Vallath _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RAC, Linux and 9 yards
I have finally browsed through a number of e-mails on this subject. Let me add my 2Cents. Oracle is pushing RAC on Linux pretty hard and off course its performing good, actually better than some of the Oracle's once preferred platforms such as SUN. In the future version of Oracle the cluster ware will be bundled with RAC for all operating systems, thus removing the additional cost to customers who have to depend on the hardware and pay those extra $$$ and those hardware platforms that do not perform because they are new into this clustering technology. I am talking about the hardware company that's got a name of the star that rises in the East (Hint!) Oracle just completed installation of a 20 instance RAC cluster on Linux at (sorry I have a non-disclosure and I cannot reveal). I am told that this will eventually grow up to 200 instances probably with 10i. While the OS plays an important role, there is even more important criteria, the hardware configuration better have a good HIGH SPEED interconnect. For example HP's new interconnect (developed with close relationship with Oracle's RD) that transfers data with .0005 ms latency or VI interconnect from HP on the intel platforms. Regards, Murali Vallath _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Implementations of VI in Oracle shops!
I am trying to collect some information regarding implementations of virtual interface (VI) in place of UDP/TCP protocol for cluster interconnects. If any of you have such an implementation and or know of such an implementation an insight regarding the hardware platforms (sun, compaq) etc with how it works would be really helpful. Thanks Murali Vallath _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OPS Sequences: nocache == order ??
I agree with Anoj, you need to talk to the business folks to remove this dependency. Else you may encounter waits/queues on getting the next sequence numbers. One of the benfits in OPS and in RAC is the sequence cache option, because each instance will not have to query the Oracle's fast cache areas for the next sequence or wait in queue to get the next number. Any ways if you see slowness you now where to look! Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:54:06 -0800 Unfortunately, we have an application dependency and I was required to come up with a quick dirty fix. Thanks for your reply. On 2002.09.03 19:10 Anjo Kolk wrote: If you run OPS and specify order, it works like no cache. My question to you: Why cripple OPS and your business performance by having this requirement ? Spending a few bucks to get rid of this dependency will improve the performance, until you run in to the next problem ;-) Anjo. On Wednesday 04 September 2002 00:00, you wrote: I'm managing an OPS configuration (4x HP 9000/N, HP-UX 11/64 , RDBMS 8.1.7.1) and I'm having an application dependency on a temporal order of sequence numbers. With OPS that becomes a problem because each node caches a set of sequence numbers (20 by default). Oracle has an option, specifically for that situation, namely ORDER. My question is whether ORDER is the same thing as NOCACHE and whether it is possible to have a NOCACHE sequence which will return numbers in an incorrect order (larger number before the smaller one). Please, o OPS gods and godesses, help me out and I'll sacrifice you a beer when I see you. Mladen Gogala -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anjo Kolk INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Mladen Gogala -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Oracle Certified DBA http://www8.ewebcity.com/muralivallath/ http://www.summerksyus.com/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Check who is coming to Charlotte!! NC
Charlotte Oracle Users Group Covers: 'Oracle Performance Management - A Radical Approach' (Performance Tuning One day Seminar) By: Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha When: Thursday, August 29th 2002 Between 07:30 AM and 05:30 PM To Register: Please visit www.cltoug.org to download the forms and to learn more about this seminar. What do you get for attending! Meet and learn from the Expert! No better learning opportunity! Great agenda of performance tuning areas covered. Attend and receive a FREE copy of the Oracle 101 performance tuning book (signed by the author himself on request) Non-members receive membership for 2002 Want more.. HURRY, seats are limited. DOWNLOAD REGISTRATION FORMS AT WWW.CLTOUG.ORG Regards, Murali Vallath President, Charlotte Oracle Users Group. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: WebLogic, Oracle JDBC related
kinds of questions about Listener problems. The Vendor is suggesting to increase the QueueSize for the listener. They have already created multiple listeners in vain. I think the Appl code is to blame. I do not know much about Java/EJB etc.. but my hunch is that this EJB container stuff does not smell good. For all I know it could be making a db connection for every single thing and disconnecting. Anyone dealt with similar issues? All tips are welcome and appreciated. All right, the preferred vendor is AMDOCS. Anyone running any of their Web Applications? If so, can you please contact me off-list? Thanks. - Kirti -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Suzy Vordos INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Suzy Vordos INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Oracle Certified DBA http://www8.ewebcity.com/muralivallath/ http://www.summerksyus.com/ _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Exp Imp User ?
RTFM Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 20:33:20 -0800 I want to know the export and import commands(SYNTAX). Then i want to know what are all the steps(commands) to be done for creating a new user such that after creating i have to use the above two commands and to take a dump of scott user , then that scott dump should be incorporated into the new user i have created. i want to know all the steps clearly for the above task... Kindly Help Regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Click below to visit monsterindia.com and there is always a better job for you at http://monsterindia.rediff.com/jobs -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: guess who INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Oracle Certified DBA http://www8.ewebcity.com/muralivallath/ http://www.summerksyus.com/ _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: TAF
Exactly that is what my benchmarks have also noticed. Couple of other points... 1. Since the PRECONNECT always maintains a connection with the secondary instance, there is a 2% overhead compared to the BASIC option. 2. I don't and did not see the need for a PRECONNECT option. Off course like Tim indicates there is potential traffic jam situation in the case of the BASIC option and there could be small delay. Unless your application is being developed for the Stock Exchange or for the space station (where such an application may not be useful anyways) I mean machine critical nature you should not have to worry. 3. You could use the RETRY/DELAY option combined with the BASIC option to cover for any failures/timeouts when the jam occurs. I had a paper presented on this very subject at the 2001 Open world. You should find it on the Oracle website. Regards Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:18:27 -0800 Fawzia, PRECONNECT establishes the second/failover database connection along with the first/primary, so your client-server database connection is really client-server1/server2. Should the first/primary connection fail, then you failover to the second. BASIC establishes only the first/primary database connection but has the information available to establish the second/failover connection should the first/primary fail. PRECONNECT will failover faster, as the second/failover connection has already been established. In a large environment (i.e. hundreds of database connections) full of BASIC connections, you can expect the mass exodus from one database instance to the failover to cause BASIC connections to wait a noticeable amount of time. One problem with PRECONNECT that I've noticed is the scenario where the second/failover instance is terminated for some reason first. Let's say a bunch of PRECONNECT TAF connections are working away happily via their first/primary connection to the primary database instance, and there is some reason to terminate the second database instance or some/all of the second/failover database connections to the second database instance. In this case, PRECONNECT will not notice the loss of the second/failover database connection, allowing the first/primary connection to continue working happily away. But after bringing the second database instance back online, if the first database instance should now fail, then all those PRECONNECT sessions will simply fail. Upshot: BASIC is more robust, because it fails over only when it needs to, but you can get caught in a traffic jam in the event of failover. PRECONNECT can fail over faster because of previously established failover connections, but if anything happens to that second connection after the time it is established, then you'll be out of luck. Hope this helps... -Tim - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:43 AM Hi , I am configuring TAF on oracle 8.1.7 (solaris). I was just wondering if anyone on the list has had experience on this and can give me any advice- more specifically on the the method- preconnect and basic. Are there any significant benefits of having the preconnect setting set? Any input would be really appreciated.. Rgds Fawzia ** Information in this email is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee only. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your system. You should not otherwise copy it, retransmit it or use or disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you for your co-operation. ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Malik, Fawzia INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling
Re: Oracle RDB vs. Plain Oracle
Oracle has two database products, Oracle RDBMS, (or oracle oracle) and Oracle Rdb. Both of them are relational databases. However, Oracle Rdb only supported on Open VMS. Oracle purchased Oracle Rdb (previously called DEC Rdb) from Digital equipment corporation several years before. this is a great production and scales pretty well. Many of the large OLTP implementations use Rdb, eg.. Australian Stock Exchange, Korean Stock Exchange, Mercantile Bank, DIRECTV, etc to name a few. Many of the features you are seeing today with Oracle, existed in Rdb for several years now (partitioning, multi block format) etc. and have moved into the Oracle space from Oracle Rdb after Oracle purchased this product. Actually the cost based optimizer is another good example, and Oracle Expert, new features in Data guard etc. Need more specifics visit http://www.oracle.com/rdb Regards, Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 18:58:24 -0800 Hello, What are the differences between the two? Thanks. ltiu -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: ltiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Oracle Certified DBA http://www8.ewebcity.com/muralivallath/ http://www.summerksyus.com/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
SMON reports Dead Transactions - Not seen this before
Hello list I am for the first time seeing a message like this in the SMON trace file. --- Using 1 slaves for 1 dead transactions Recovered xid: 0x000e.00a.4971 in 20 milliseconds; nchk=0, size=2327 --- I have not seen this message before, any ideas ... Murali Vallath _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RAID-1 PLUS from SUN
SUN 9960 storage system comes with RAID-1 PLUS. Any ideas on what kind of RAID this is. Not heard of RAID-1 plus. Regards, Murali Vallath _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Calling Presenters for 2002
If you have experience and experiences that would benefit other users, seize this opportunity to share your ideas in 2002 Engage your colleagues with fresh approaches. Excite your peers with innovative techniques. Intrigue your associates with cutting edge topics. Sign-up for a presentation on any topic of your expertise, Show Charlotte your talent, knowledge and experience. Charlotte Oracle Users Group is calling the talented minds to come and share their knowledge in the following areas Oracle Database Administration PL/SQL, Java, JDBC, JDeveloper, SQLj Development Oracle Database Performance and Tuning Oracle Objects VLDB'S WebDB/Portal Oracle Application Servers Oracle Parallel Server/Oracle Real Application Clusters Oracle Designer Oracle Developer The process is simple, Send in a topic of interest, ·A brief abstract on the topic, ·A brief biological information about you and ·A month convenient for your presentation Information should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information about the meeting dates and timings please visit our website at www.cltoug.org Regards, Murali Vallath President, Charlotte Oracle Users Group _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Longest SQL statements!!!
Are there any implications on how long the SQL statement is? The current SQL statements that I am inheritting, is really long. tons of embedded sub queries etc. My first question is are there any known issues with haveing very long SQL statements and if yes what has been a good length other than the fact that it may depend on your SGA. Thanks Murali _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
List users planning to meet during Open world
Hi everyone, Are we planning any LIST USERS meeting (like at the IOUGa LIVE) during open world? Regards, Murali _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
JDBC connections and SQL netTraffic
Can someone provide some education. The application uses JDBC thin driver to make a connection to the database, with WEBlogic the connection pooling (similar to MTS) is also implemented. Why would one see a large number of SQL*NET traffic? Any ideas? Thanks Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
I forget the sight!!!
I have not used it for a while and inbetween switching jobs I missed it. What's the site that formats your statspack and estat/bstat reports. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Surrogate keys
True and not true, If the database is partitioned and using a local index. then you may want to use the business key as a prefixed index. This way you could avoid the additional index on the table. NOTE: The table is partitioned by the surrogate key and the all foreign keys in the child tables are the database generated primary keys. So when the application fetches the primary table wit the business key gets the corresponding surrogate key and navigates through other tables to retrieve data. Now another important factor that should be considered while using surrogate keys is using REVERSE key indexes. When you have high volume inserts, the leaf block contention of using sequence generated keys is quite extensive. Regards, Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:45:23 -0800 Rick, I use surrogate keys when the obvious primary key value has the possibility of being updated by the application. For example, you would think that a Social Security number might be a candidate for use as a primary key in a college database. What we found upon study is that, the Soc Sec # provided at college application time is sometimes the parents number, rather than the student's number. So, it changes about 10% of the time. Of course, the cons of primary keys are that you probably will need an additional index on the table to allow lookup by a secondary value. In the above case, the primary key was a surrogate value supported by a sequence, with a secondary index on the soc-sec column. The cost of using the surrogate primary key was the additional index. My current database that I am designing is only using surrogate keys. It provides a level of comfort in that we don't ever have to worry about the primary key being changed - it never will. hope this helps. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, Can someone explain pros/cons to using surrogate keys(i.e.,sequences) vs non-surrogate keys? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
MTS and Java applications
Anyone using MTS with java applications with weblogic servers and JDBC drivers. We are not using this at the moment, but I am unable to track any information about this configuration and the architecture of MTS with JDBC, NET8 etc. Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle's Market share
Where can one find some information about Oracle's market share in the various O/S markets. Like, UNIX,LINUX,NT etc. Regards Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OPS, TAF and jAVA
at using TAF (never used before) for application fail over. First, any guidelines we should be aware of in general. Second any specific concerns using TAF with applications using JAVA. Any stuff on how does TAF and OPS work in harmony? Regards Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). taf-1.rtf _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
OPS, TAF and jAVA
We are looking at using TAF (never used before) for application fail over. First, any guidelines we should be aware of in general. Second any specific concerns using TAF with applications using JAVA. Any stuff on how does TAF and OPS work in harmony? Regards Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle vs DB2
Boivin, Not true, when Oracle purchased Rdb from Digital 10 years ago. This was the talk, Rdb will die in 7 years. Today it is being enhanced every version/release. SO DON'T KNOW, what IBM will do. Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:45:27 -0800 Well, This is on topic - www.wired.com http://www.wired.com today has an article re. IBM announced that it is buying Informix for $1Billion. Ah, if only I had that kind of money myself - I could take more Oracle courses! I don't know what will happen with Informix then, does that mean they will gobble it up and DB2 will be the only option in a couple of years? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dennis Taylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Oracle vs DB2 Disclaimer: I am *not* trying to start a religious war, and I am *not* trying to advocate DB2. I am simply offended. Thus this post. As some may remember, I'm doing an evaluation of Oracle vs DB2 vs SQLServer to determine our future direction. Here's a datum that makes a significant difference to us, dollar-wise. With Oracle, in order to make a database accessible to the internet through a web page, you have to buy an unlimited-user enterprise license. We had a senior sales person in our office yesterday, and we asked this question a number of different ways. He bobbed and he weaved, but he did not deny it. And the quote he supplied afterwards does not address the issue at all. Cost of unlimited-user Enterprise version for our installation (your mileage may vary) = Approx $160,000 Cdn. IBM, for the same purpose, will sell you DB2 UDB Workgroup edition (1 user), and something called WE Internet Access, for a total price of $6000 Cdn. I have a written quote from an IBM salescritter to this effect. $6000. $160,000. $6000. $160,000. Hm. Let me think. I respectfully submit that Oracle's pricing structure is out of line with market realities, and may have to undergo significant revision. Dennis Taylor Don't be fooled by old cliches - He who laughs last may have just figured out the joke. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Dennis Taylor INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information
Insert Cardinalities into the data dictionary directly
I am trying again -- To obtain a good analysis of a SQL statement especially in a new development environment, based on the environment that it is to be deployed on, it would good to sometime reflect/simulate the production volume. Is there a way to input table cardinalities directly into the data dictionary so that the Optimizer could be made to act like in production. I am aware that if this is was an environment with good cardinalities, these values could be exported and imported into another environment. My question is this possible from scratch? Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Insert Cardinalities into the data dictionary directly
Thanks for the feedback, I am coming from the Oracle Rdb world, where these row counts/cardinialities could be inserted into the data dictionary to simulate the optimizer behaviour similar to a production environment. I see your point, this could be a negative impact to the optimizer. Thanks for the input.] Murali Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:15:23 -0800 Take a look at dbms_stats.set_column_stats and dbms_stats.set_table_stats. The latter allows you to set the number of rows, the size of the table and such ; the first allows you to set the number of distinct values for a column the number of nulls, etc. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this. Is simply changing the cardinalities of a the columns enough? What about the distribution of those values? If the changes result in a different query path, and your queries run more slowly, does that mean they will do so when the statistics truly reflect the database. Perhaps they are running more slowly because you lied to the optimizer. "I am aware that if this is was an environment with good cardinalities, these values could be exported and imported into another environment." Cardinality reflects the ratio of distinct values to the total number of values in the database. I can think of scenarios where cardinality might change significantly for a time. But I would think in most cases it would remain fairly constant. FYI, if statements which assert something contrary to fact are subjunctive not conditional. "If this WERE an environment with good cardinalities" Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:06 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am trying again -- To obtain a good analysis of a SQL statement especially in a new development environment, based on the environment that it is to be deployed on, it would good to sometime reflect/simulate the production volume. Is there a way to input table cardinalities directly into the data dictionary so that the Optimizer could be made to act like in production. I am aware that if this is was an environment with good cardinalities, these values could be exported and imported into another environment. My question is this possible from scratch? Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: MacGregor, Ian A. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Meeting at IOUG - LOCATION CONFIRMATION
Since I started this thread. Let me call for a closer. I think this suggestion is great. Let confirm this. Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:53:57 -0800 Glad to see so many people wanting to get together. I would like to propose a time and place... Tuesday night is the "big bash", and Wednesday night is a "Pleasure Island" event. There is a Monday night welcome reception in the exhibit hall until 7:45. So, I think the best time is Monday at 8pm, somewhere in the Swan and Dolphin complex (not knowing the Orlando area personally). http://www.swandolphin.com/restaur.htm lists the 15 restaurants (with 3D views). My vote is Juan Only's - "A perfect place to enjoy moderately priced southwestern cuisine. Stop by the bar for the best margaritas in town! Open for dinner." for its bar and not super-loud setting so we can talk. - Ari Kaplan On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Stephen Andert wrote: I'll be there and would like to meet as many of you as possible. If anyone who knows the ropes can suggest a time/place, that would be great. As this is my first IOUG event, I don't have any ideas on where/when, so it's up to all you "veterans". Keep this thread going. Stephen Andert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/16 8:15 PM don't know that any meeting has been scheduled, I do know that a number of the members of the list are presenting and I intend to be at most of those sessions :) on the other hand, Gaja's sessions tend to draw EVERYONE so you can be sure of meeting others on the list there From: "Murali Vallath" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Meeting at IOUG Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:30:43 -0800 Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in Florida. I am attending and would like to join the meeting. Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephen Andert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ari D Kaplan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HE
Input Cardinalities into dictionary for Optimizer Behaviour
To obtain a good analysis of a SQL statement especially in a new development environment, based on the environment that it is to be deployed on, it would good to sometime reflect/simulate the production volume. Is there a way to input table cardinalities directly into the data dictionary so that the Optimizer could be made to act like in production. I am aware that if this is was an environment with good cardinalities, these values could be exported and imported into another environment. My question is this possible from scratch? Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Meeting at IOUG
Are any of the floks from the list meeting during the IOUG-A live in Florida. I am attending and would like to join the meeting. Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Database Cache of Oracle9ias
I have a TAR open on this subject with Oracle suport since Feb 11th. Unable to configure database cache. It fails after completing about 26% every time. This installation is on Compaq TRU64 Murali Vallath Oracle Certified DBA http://www8.ewebcity.com/muralivallath/ http://www.summerksyus.com/ Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:20:42 -0800 Hi Kevin, The Database Cache Assistant works fine till it reaches the last part where it tries to export some User data.. The error which it gives is "Unable to export User privileges" and then it fails and moves onto installing other components, I tried to install Oracle DB 8.1.7 and Oracle 9iAS on the same server. The configuration reaches the last part of the Database Cache configuration screen. Moreover once I sucessfully installed Oracle 8.1.6 DB and Oracle 8iAS (Earlier version) on the same server.. Thanks.. Sushant --- Kevin Tsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the problems you have ? --Kevin -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Has anybody installed Oracle Database Cache of Oracle 9iAS sucessfully.. Thanks in advance... Sushant --- TARUN SHARMA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yes u can install oracle 8i DB and 9iAS on the same machine. On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Seema Singh wrote: Hi DBAs Can I install Db server and Oracle9iAS on same M/C. Thanks -Seema _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: TARUN SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Oracle DBA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Tsay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Oracle DBA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat Ci
Re: Issues with Oracle on a Compaq Tru64 5.1 Cluster
We use COMPAQ tru64 5.1 with Oracle 8.1.7. we had noticed corruption in some all files and had to apply some O/S level patches. We followed the instructions in the following TAR# 13320267.600. You may want to do a dbv on certain files to ensure there is not corruption. Again we did not notice these problems until RMAN complained of corruption. And we noticed corruption in the redo logs. Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:47:20 -0800 We are running Oracle 8.1.6.2.0 on a new Compaq Tru64 cluster running 5.1 patchkit 1. We have had Oracle running for almost 2 months. For the last several days, we have been experiencing severe I/O issues. The databases will freeze-up and claim that they can't access certain files. Occassionally even 'ls' commands will lock up to, but only when accessing certain sub-directories of file systems. Naturally, we are trying to figure out what has changed in the last few days. We know that the Legatto Networker client was installed, and we also had a UPS failure. In an attempt to isolate the problem, we have removed the Legatto Networker client. Our sysadmins are not seeing any problems at the hardware level. We have completed powered the cluster down and brought it back up. When the databases begin locking up, we do see error messages related to various file systems come across the console. For a few days, we thought it might be RMAN, but I haven't used it in the last 2 days and the problems are still occurring. So, my question is - are any of you folks on a Tru64 5.1 cluster and if so, have you seen similar problems? The systems include 3 GS80s, an ES40, and a Storage Area Network for the disks. We are not running OPS and we are not using raw devices. Thank you, Jay Hostetter -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jay Hostetter INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: DBMS_REPAIR package usage
Hi Yong, How does one subscribe to this ? Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 05:05:21 -0800 Hi, Winnie, How did you find the file# to be 9 (unless you messed with your original error message)? I suggest you post your message to news:comp.databases.oracle.server (or http://news.interbulletin.com/cgi-bin/ibwrn/post/comp.databases.oracle.server if your company doesn't have a news server). Hopefully it will attract attention of Jonathan Lewis, the Oracle 8i expert, and several (former) Oracle employees such as Kyle Hailey, Howard Rogers and Anjo Kolk. The good thing about that newsgroup is nobody is audacious enough to post spam messages like "tomorrow I'll post the chocolate recipe here". Yong Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yong, Thanks a lot for all the research! :D The file# that actaully contains this block is 9. My database is not that big at all. I did do some research myself and some Oracle analysts in the World Wide Support does suggest that the influxed blocks are very likely to be a fractured block. But I reallly have no idea how it got in there... . Winnie yong huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/23/2001 04:01:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DBMS_REPAIR package usage Hi, Winnie, Just a little more research. I wonder how you can have an rdba that big, 0x24070020, which is 604438560 in decimal. SQL var a number; SQL exec :a := dbms_utility.data_block_address_file(604438560); PL/SQL procedure successfully completed. SQL print A - 144 SQL exec :a := dbms_utility.data_block_address_block(604438560); PL/SQL procedure successfully completed. SQL print A - 458784 This is done on 8.1.6. It says the block is in file 144, block 458784. Why does your error say file=0? Anyway, in case you do have a file numbered 144, check to see if there's an object there. If it's indeed file 0, the dba should be the same as block#, 458784, or 0x70020. DBMS_UTILITY.MAKE_DATA_BLOCK_ADDRESS can confirm this. However, that file# 0 may be just an indicator that that information is lost, as multiple other 0's look like. I believe dbv reports an error when it encounters a fractured block, i.e., the first two bytes of tail (0003 in your case) does not match the last two bytes of rdba (0020). We know how a fractured block is created during hot backup. But I don't understand why an offlined datafile (as you said in another email) can contain fractured blocks. Maybe Jeremiah Wilton can give a better answer. Yong Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have a datafile in my production box (a user data tablespace), when I run dbv against it, it showed that 5 blocks are "influxed" Page 458784 is influx - most likely media corrupt *** Corrupt block relative dba: 0x24070020 file=0. blocknum=458784. Fractured block found during dbv: Data in bad block - type:0. format:0. rdba:0x last change scn:0x. seq:0x0 flg:0x00 consistancy value in tail 0x0003c204 check value in block header: 0x0, check value not calculated spare1:0x0, spare2:0x0, spare2:0x0 We can copy this file to tape, dd this file. On the OS disk level, the OS does n ot treat this as corrupted. But it is corrupted on the oracle (software) level. I've checked and can't find any object associate with these 5 corrupted blcok. That means that there is no data inside those blocks. Since the tablespace is about 12 GB on a highly active system (which only got 3 hours maintance window each month), export/import (then drop the tablespace) which Oracle support suggested is mostly out of the question. (Especially, it is very hard for me to convince the sysadmin that the blocks are corrupted as they don't see any I/O error associate with this file and the developers don' t see any problem with the application either!) I am currently thinking about upgrading this database to 8.1.6 to make use of th e DBMS_REPAIR package to make those blocks as "unusable". But I am not sure that if the DBMS_REPAIR package can run against the blocks which do not belong to any objects!! Can someone give me some guidences? thanks Winnie __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: yong huang INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services
Physical Design Standards
Any suggestions /books whitepapers on Database Physical Standards Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Someone changed INTERNAL password SOLVED..
We do not have a practice to give password for the internal account. So when it promoted it sounded like someone had assigned a password. Apparently there was a parameter SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES parameter added to the sqlnet.ora file. when I commented this out. It worked. Thanks for your help Murali Vallath Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Murali Vallath ' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 10:30:16 -0600 Hi! If you are using windows nt... use orapw to re-change it... if you are using unix: you connect with svrmgrl!!! Hope this help! -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 3/20/01 8:17 AM URGENT, Someone changed the internal password. How do you connnect or change the internal password, if not able to find it? Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
ODS
Hello Everyone, This new term Operational Data Store(ODS) has many definitions, like staging area to the data warehouse, data mart, A data warehouse or reporting database, a archive area etc etc. updated almost real time. From your experience, is this being used in the Oracle world. What size are these databases? What configuration is this on? What is the uptime? I have a requirement that this should be a 24*7 database. Anyone would like to share their experiences. Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
24*7 Operation using Compaq TRU64
Hello everyone, I am trying to collect some information on using Compaq TRU64 for a 24*7 high volume, machine critical application using Oracle 8i. Basically, gathering information about howmany of us are using this and what is the typical configuration. Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
ORA-00200 (control file creation error)
OS COMPAQ TRU 64 Version 5.1 with OS clustering option enabled Oracle Version 8.1.7 I am trying to create a new database OPS database/instance. While running the script using SVRMGRL get the following messages.. ORA-01501: CREATE DATABASE failed ORA-00200: controlfile could not be created ORA-00202: controlfile: '/dev/disk/dsk19a' ORA-27038: skgfrcre: file exists Any ideas, the sys ops say everything is OK. Regards, Murali Vallath _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Murali Vallath INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).