Re: CLOB data

2003-10-17 Thread Nancy Hu
Thanks Mladen for your wonderful explanation.

Nancy


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But the main point is valid. The phenomenon observed by Nancy is caused by 
the
storage in the row.

On 2003.10.16 19:59, Paul Drake wrote:
how about using tablespaces UMDOTBS (instead of UNDOTBS) and SYTSEM?

thanks for the laugh.

Pd

Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is because "ENABLE STORAGE IN ROW" is the default, which means
that oracle will store the first 4000 bytes in the original block.
The first part of a LOB is, essentially, identical to VARCHAR2(4000)
or VARRAW(4000). If you say something like
CREATE TABLE t
(
ISCT_ID NUMBER(10),
CONTENT CLOB
)
TABLESPACE UNDOTBS
LOB(CONTENT) STORE AS LOB_CONTENTS (
TABLESPACE SYSTEM
DISABLE STORAGE IN ROW
NOCACHE
LOGGING)
/
You will not be able to do that any longer. You cannot, however, exceed
4000 characters (I'm not sure what happens if the characters are
multibyte ones - may be Steve or Cary could help with that).


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CLOB data

2003-10-16 Thread Nancy Hu
I know Oracle provides us dbms_lob package to manipulate LOB data.  However, 
I can use standard DML to manipulate CLOB data as following.  Is there 
advantage to use dbms_lob package?

SQL> CREATE TABLE t
 2  (
 3ISCT_ID  NUMBER(10),
 4CONTENT  CLOB
 5  );
Table created.

SQL> insert into t values(1, 'test');

1 row created.

SQL> insert into t values(2, NULL);

1 row created.

SQL> update t set content='test2' where isct_id=2;

1 row updated.

SQL> select * from t;

  ISCT_ID CONTENT
---
1   test
2   test2

SQL>

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Re: LONG data type in 10g

2003-10-16 Thread Nancy Hu
Oracle recommends others to use LOB instead of LONG.  However they are lazy 
to change their own.


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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 08:24:39 -0800
SQL*Plus: Release 10.1.0.0.0 - Beta on Thu Oct 16 20:35:19 2003

Copyright (c) 1982, 2003, Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Connected to an idle instance.

SQL> startup;
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area  170990484 bytes
Fixed Size   760724 bytes
Variable Size 121634816 bytes
Database Buffers   25165824 bytes
Redo Buffers   23429120 bytes
Database mounted.
Database opened.
SQL> desc view$;
 Name  Null?Type
 - 

 OBJ#  NOT NULL NUMBER
 AUDIT$NOT NULL VARCHAR2(38)
 COLS  NOT NULL NUMBER
 INTCOLS   NOT NULL NUMBER
 PROPERTY  NOT NULL NUMBER
 FLAGS NOT NULL NUMBER
 TEXTLENGTH NUMBER
 TEXT   LONG
SQL> desc trigger$;
 Name  Null?Type
 - 

 OBJ#  NOT NULL NUMBER
 TYPE# NOT NULL NUMBER
 UPDATE$   NOT NULL NUMBER
 INSERT$   NOT NULL NUMBER
 DELETE$   NOT NULL NUMBER
 BASEOBJECTNOT NULL NUMBER
 REFOLDNAME VARCHAR2(30)
 REFNEWNAME VARCHAR2(30)
 DEFINITION VARCHAR2(4000)
 WHENCLAUSE VARCHAR2(4000)
 ACTION#LONG
 ACTIONSIZE NUMBER
 ENABLEDNUMBER
 PROPERTY  NOT NULL NUMBER
 SYS_EVTS   NUMBER
 NTTRIGCOL  NUMBER
 NTTRIGATT  NUMBER
 REFPRTNAME VARCHAR2(30)
 ACTIONLINENO   NUMBER
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> Much more menacing question:
> Are the columns DBA_VIEWS.TEXT and DBA_TRIGGERS.TRIGGER_BODY still of
>
> the type long?
>
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Have a nice day !!

Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan,
Bangalore, INDIA.
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Re: LONG data type in 10g

2003-10-16 Thread Nancy Hu
Thanks for trying it out, Jonathan.  Also I really appreciate all replies.


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Thursday, October 16, 2003, 10:44:26 AM, you wrote:
NH> Does any one know if 10g still supports LONG data type?
I just tried creating a table with a LONG column in Beta 2,
and that worked, so I'd say the answer is yes.
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LONG data type in 10g

2003-10-16 Thread Nancy Hu
Does any one know if 10g still supports LONG data type?

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RE: data loading

2003-10-08 Thread Nancy Hu
Thank Stephane and Jacques for your reply.  We are running Oracle 8.1.7.4, 
but will upgrade to Oracle 9.2.0.3 soon.  Partitioning works for some of our 
tables.  Are there other methods that allow us to avoid the problem of 
unique constraint.


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If you choose to implement this method, make sure that all the tables can 
be in the exchange partition command. The exchange partition command has 
certain requirements to be able to complete the exchange (similarity of 
indexes and constraints), and the table has to be suitable for building a 
"copy" as a partitioned table.
For example, the method would not work with this table (because of the two 
unique keys):
create table t (a number unique, b number unique) ;
If your database version is 8.0 there are even more restrictions on what 
kind of table you can use in an exchange partition command (IIRC any FK 
constraint will prevent you from using the table in an exchange partition.)

> -Original Message-
> Stephane Paquette
>
> You can use the partitionning option.
>
> Load into a 1 partitionned table then do a partition exchange with the
> target table.
>
> It allows you to have the current data live while loading into the
> partitionned table.
> Once the load is loaded just exchange the partition with the
> table, it is
> fast as it is just an update in the data dictionnary. No data
> is physically
> moved.
>
> -Original Message-
> Nancy Hu
>
> We have an Oracle database that is a kind of data warehouse.
> We load data
> from mainframe into the database every day.  The following
> are the steps how
> we load data currently:
>
> 1. get the data file from Datacom
> 2. ftp the data file from mainframe to the Sun machine where
> the Oracle
> database resides
> 3. truncate all tables in Oracle database
> 4. load the data into Oracle with SQL LOADER
>
> Most tables in the Oracle database don't have primary key.
> Tables are not
> available during the loading that gives us problem for our 24x7
> availability.  Therefore, we would like to change our loading
> method.  Any
> ideas would be highly appreciated.
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data loading

2003-10-06 Thread Nancy Hu
Hi All,

We have an Oracle database that is a kind of data warehouse.  We load data 
from mainframe into the database every day.  The following are the steps how 
we load data currently:

1. get the data file from Datacom
2. ftp the data file from mainframe to the Sun machine where the Oracle 
database resides
3. truncate all tables in Oracle database
4. load the data into Oracle with SQL LOADER

Most tables in the Oracle database don't have primary key.  Tables are not 
available during the loading that gives us problem for our 24x7 
availability.  Therefore, we would like to change our loading method.  Any 
ideas would be highly appreciated.

Nancy

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RE: archive old data

2003-09-12 Thread Nancy Hu
I really appreciate all replies.  Those solutions are very good.  I think 
partition works for our case.

Nancy


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In an ideal world, tables are partitioned and you just have to archive 
partitions - either to other tables in an ARCHIVE schema, or by exporting 
them - and then you can truncate them (=partitions). In the real world, you 
always have some rows at a very old date which are *not* in the CLOSED 
state. Which means that partitioning on a state with row movement enabled 
is not necessarily to be frowned upon.
If you don't have enormous amounts of data, CREATE TABLE AS SELECT to save 
the data to archive somewhere. Rather than deleting the rows afterwards, 
it's probably better to do a CREATE TABLE AS SELECT elsewhere with the rows 
you want to keep, then TRUNCATE the table, then reinsert the rows back - it 
will have the advantage of reorganizing and resetting the high-water mark. 
Of course you will have to juggle with constraints and triggers.

If you feel lazy, just convince your management that since disk space is so 
cheap nowadays they can keep everything online.

HTH

SF

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>We have some tables that have data for many years.
>We are going to archive
>the data that are older than 3 years.   I would like
>to find out how you guys
>usually do this or a best way to do this.  Thanks
>for any inputs in advance.
>
>Nancy
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archive old data

2003-09-12 Thread Nancy Hu
We have some tables that have data for many years.  We are going to archive 
the data that are older than 3 years.  I would like to find out how you guys 
usually do this or a best way to do this.  Thanks for any inputs in advance.

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Re: 9.2.0.4 anyone

2003-09-12 Thread Nancy Hu
n
> >dump, this is the SGA parent heap for shared pool heaps).
> >
> > >
> > > that makes the shared pool one big memory area.
> > >
> > > One of the "fixes" in 9.2.0.4 is to make this the default now (so I
have
> > > been told).
> >
> >Can't get my hands oon 9.2.0.2 or 0.3, but in 0.4 (on Windows), the
> >_kghsidx_count defaults to 1 anyway, check it out on your systems.
> >
> >Tanel.
> >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Stephen Lee
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:39 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: 9.2.0.4 anyone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Initial testing indicates that the bug(s) that caused index
> > > > create/rebuild
> > > > online to lock a table and then get permanently stuck in a
> > > > hung state have
> > > > been fixed.
> > > >
> > > > It looks like 9.2.0.4 does NOT fix the problem of fatal 4031
> > > > situations that
> > > > can only be cleared by restarting the instance.  So you are
> > > > still stuck with
> > > > by guess and by golly fiddling with the shared pool.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
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> > > > > Anyone have any negative experiences with 9.2.0.4 yet?
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Re: 9.2.0.4 anyone

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