RE: Oracle Version on Unix

2002-09-11 Thread Shaw John-P55297
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RE: methodology to keep only certain programs to connect to

2002-09-10 Thread Shaw John-P55297



use v_$mystat - it has the sid - then do 
your join with v$session

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  methodology to keep only certain programs to connect to
  I've been tasked to ensure only certain app programs access the 
  database.
   
  I'm thinking on-logon trigger, check the program field from 
  v$session.  unfortunately v$session is for all sessions, i can't seem to 
  find the view that tells me only MY info during login.  I only want the 
  sid, serial#, username and program for my just now connection to the 
  database.
   
  Does this exist or am I going about this the wrong way?
   
  We're thinking of checking those fields to make sure sql*plus, toad, etc 
  can't connect as a particular user(even though the password is known out in 
  the community).
   
  any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
   
  joe
   


RE: Oracle Parner Network

2002-08-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

We are OPN members - we have one database for our internal use and pay full
price for it and support. In addition we have a bunch of purely development
databases - on differing platforms (linux, solaris) that we download and use
for no additional fee's.

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Hey all,

While reviewing our annual maintenance agreement ($5,000) and considering an
additional $30K license purchase, our savvy network admin suggested we look
into Oracle's Partner Network.  After some research, phone conversations,
and pouring through the license agreement with a fine-tooth comb, I realized
that's it's a win-win for us.  Instead of spending $35,000 on renewals and
new license purchases, we spend $2,000 to join OPN as a member associate and
then pay $39.20 per seat for dev support (equivalent to our current Silver
level) on the db suite.  Yes, the catch is you have to be using Oracle
solely for dev (and not for internally deployed apps that run your business)
but it has turned out to be a no-brainer moneywise.

Curious if anyone else out there has had experience with this . . . not that
I'm sceptical or anything, but we tried to find a catch and couldn't!  

thanks

bill
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RE: working with datafile > 2Gb in HadHat 7.3

2002-08-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

It was a bug on windows - with auto extend on and crossing 4Gb filesize.

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I read something about Oracle on Windows not being able to extend past the
2G limit, but haven't verified.

I believe it has to do with Oracle on Windows, not windows or hardware.

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Patrice Boivin
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Ltiu,

>>Intel hardware can only handle 2Gb files sizes max.

Are you sure?  I don't think that's true.



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It doesn't really matter what OS you have. Intel hardware can only 
handle 2Gb files sizes max. Even if the hardware can support large 
files, it is still recommended that you do not have large datafiles. You

need to partition your tablespaces into multiple datafiles. This 
facilitates backups and restores and you can put  the datafiles into 
different hard drives increasing i/o performance.

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:

>Ok ltiu,
>REDHAT 7.3 kernel-2.4.18-10 
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>>What's HadHat 7.3?
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>>A new Linux distro pattered after RedHat 7.3?
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>>ltiu
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>>Adriano Freire wrote:
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>>>Gurus,
>>> 
>>>I've some problems with datafiles > 2Gb in HadHat 7.3. I'm using 
>>>datafile type ext3 and
>>>when i try create a datafile with 2Gb the database is catching.
>>>Anybody have the some problem?
>>>any suggestion?
>>> 
>>>Thanks
>>> 
>>>Adriano.
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Another Transferring data from one table to another fast Q

2002-08-13 Thread Shaw John-P55297
Title: RE: Transferring data from one table to another



How 
about if your table has (I didn't do it) a LONG column. CTAS doesn't work and I 
don't see the nologging option for the ccopy command - in 8.1.6 
anyway.

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  RE: Transferring data from one table to another
  CTAS with nologging.  Could create a simple script to do 
  this. 
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  Iam planning to copy 18-40Million rows thru CTAS!! My question 
  is which one is efficient, CTAS or using cursor in 
  pl/sql Procedure!! 
  thanks peter. 
  >From: Abdul Aleem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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  Transferring data from one table to another >Date: 
  Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:23:19 -0800 > >Thank you, Amjad, >The problem is that 
  then I have to write a procedure for each of the >tables. >I was looking for something 
  that could be set at database level and would >apply to every table. > >Aleem > >  -Original Message- >Sent:  Monday, August 12, 2002 10:43 AM >To:    Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  >Subject:   RE: 
  Transferring data from one table to another > >well if u wanna commit after 1000 
  records u could very well use a cursor >and within 
  the loop keep a counter which will indicate the no. of records 
  >inserted...upon reaching 1000 records just commit and 
  reinitialize the >counter.. > >i have written the "Pseudo" code 
  below: > >declare 
  >   cursor c1 is 
  >   SELECT * from 
  schema2.abc; >cntr number := 0; >begin >   for c1_abc in c1 loop 
  >   
      insert into schema1.abc values 
  contained in c1_abc; >   
      cntr := cntr +1; >   
      if (cntr = 
  1000)    then >   
      
      cntr := 0; >   
      
      commit; >   
      end if; >   end loop; >/* the following commit is 4 last set of records that might not b 
  >commited*/ >commit; >end; > >rgds, >Ams. >www.medicomsoft.com 
  > > > >-Original Message- 
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  transferring data from one table in a schema to another table in 
  >another schema with identical fields using 
  >INSERT INTO schema1.abc (SELECT * from 
  schema2.abc) >The source table has 1.6 million 
  records. The tablespace increases to >consume full 
  disk space and yet seems to be demanding more so the operation 
  >doesn't complete. > 
  >Is there a possibility to process commit after every 
  1,000 records? >Is there any other way of doing 
  it? > >TIA! 
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RE: Foxbase to Oracle

2002-07-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Visual FoxPro has an upsize wizard that can go directly to Oracle. It would
still be a lot cheaper to keep it in FoxPro over the cost of Oracle.

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Dennis:

   Foxbase was originally called 10-base before Fox Systems change the name.
Foxbase was changed to FoxPro and then purchased by Microsoft and called
Microsoft FoxPro, and then Microsoft Visual FoxPro.  I would highly
recommend investigating the MSFT solution.  Sorry guys, but this is a
realistic solution.  Oracle, for eight users, will probably cost too much
for the implementation.

   If you need to convert to Oracle, do the following:
1. Convert to FoxPro
2. Bridge Visual FoxPro to SQLServer and use the Data Transformation
Services (DTS) to migrate the data to Oracle.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
Product Architect
Compuware Corporation
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Subject:Foxbase to Oracle 

Hi All -
We have a small application that was written in Foxbase under DOS. While it
runs fairly well most of the time, the management wants to migrate it to a
windows-based application. We are open to any mainstream application and
database solutions at this point, although our budget is very tight and
this application has only about 8 users max. My question is - does Oracle
provide a good tool for migration from Foxbase? This is a small application
and have only about a dozen tables, my main challenge would be the
application code.
If Oracle turns out to be too expensive, what is the least expensive, least
painful migration path? Another attractive option seems to be Visual
FoxPro, which I know little about.   I want to bounce it off the list first
before we make the choice.

TIA

Dennis Meng
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Focal Communications Corp.

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dblink / global names explanation please

2002-06-29 Thread Shaw John-P55297

8.1.6 on NT
I have java installed and a java email package on instance A on a server.
One the same server on instance B with global names set to false I created a
public database link to instance A, then created a public synonym javamail
for my email routine at A. This worked. On a third instance ( C ) on this
same server with gobal names set to true (do you see where this is going) I
did the same thing as I had done on instance B - but I couldn't use a short
name - I had to use the full A.moto.com. Then I created a public synonym for
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] This kept returning an error - couldn't find class
com/moto/utils/mail - this is a home grown java class in the database A.
I could not find anything different between the two setups other than one
had global names set to false and the other had global names set to true
(after many hours of looking and head banging) - so I just tried setting
global names to false on instance C and bounced the database - went back and
created a new short named public database link and then created the public
synonym. It now worked ?  WHY ?? can any one tell why this works or
doesn't as the case may be?
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RE: Forms Question

2002-06-27 Thread Shaw John-P55297

It is in forms 5 and 6

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Is it possible to order by a non-base table item in a form?


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RE: database 9iR2 and client-server with Forms 6i / RE: (Fwd) Re:

2002-06-24 Thread Shaw John-P55297

you only need 9ias if you are running webforms and then you only need 9ias
if you are running in servlet mode.  I found that Client server works fine.
THere were problems with our package specifications, but once I corrected
them it seemed to work.

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My understanding is that the "developer" mode is still client-server, but to
do the deployment 
(more or less "runtime"?), you have to also have 9iAS set up and running.

Can you execute a form in client-server mode in the same manner as a user
would (in other 
words, not in "developer" mode)?

Thanks,
Eric

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> 9iR2 enterprise from the otn download Forms 6i 6.0.8.10.3 on W2K Dell 
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> in pure client-server mode?
> 
> if so:
> 
> "quick, someone tell oracle tech support" !!! :)
> 
> what versions of the database? "personal", "standard", "enterprise",
etc???
> 
> 
> On 21 Jun 2002 at 5:23, Shaw John-P55297 wrote:
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RE: (Fwd) Re: Upgrading from Forms 5, Oracle 7

2002-06-24 Thread Shaw John-P55297

9iR2 enterprise from the otn download Forms 6i 6.0.8.10.3 on W2K Dell 

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in pure client-server mode?

if so:

"quick, someone tell oracle tech support" !!! :)

what versions of the database? "personal", "standard", "enterprise", etc???


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> I have 9iR2 and forms 6i on my pc and its running ok so far. 
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RE: (Fwd) Re: Upgrading from Forms 5, Oracle 7

2002-06-21 Thread Shaw John-P55297
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> 
> Do we have a decision from Oracle on whether Developer 6i will 
> be supported against 9.2?

haaa haaa haa haaa

(insert insane cackling sounds)

> 
> I would love to get a stable platform upgrade in this next year 
> so that I would not have to touch these sites for another 5-10 
> years. 

(insert more insane cackling sounds)


> 
> [Political comment]
> I would love it even more to get a stable and affordable 9iAS 
> forms and reports server in place for these 10-50 user 
> customers. 

(insert even more insane cackling sounds)

According to one investment guy on the ORACLE-L dba list recently, Oracle's 
business model is getting pretty precarious, incursions by MS SQL Server and

IBM/DB2 into Oracle's market share are really causing problems.

I guess Oracle's business strategy is to batten the hatches, cut costs 
wherever possible (including outsourcing tech support?), and hope to weather

the storm without losing too many investors.

As such, it may be wishful thinking to hope that Oracle will be  motivated
to 
continue any sort of robust support for client-server for very much longer.

(Unless the customers get really p*ssed off and start nagging like h*ll?). 
:):):)

side note: On the ODTUG Java list a while ago, there was a major discussion 
between some old time Oracle customers about the pros/cons of using Oracle's

up and coming JAVA mid-tier stuff vs. using MS .net (ASP?), which apparently

has the capability of running in something like client-server mode.

The Oracle employees did their best to try to make a case for spending all
the 
extra money on 3-tier JAVA/Oracle (basically saying that there were benefits

to "standards" that may not be apparent in the short run, and implying that 
.net is going to just be another funky, inflexible, transitory MS thing that

people will have to abandon before the assumed/implied/expected 
end-of-lifecycle is actually over. (more crazed cackling)

It may be that Oracle has seen the "handwriting on the wall", and basically 
conceded defeat on the low end of the LAN market.

You may remember how much of giant flop Oracle's last, great marketing
project 
with Novell was.

regards,
ep

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RE: Slow select distinct

2002-04-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

If not distinct there's about 9900 records, there are some physical rw'
going on
but I've bumped sort area up to 2M.

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John,
If you don't use the DISTINCT, how many records are returned?

The problem is that DISTINCT forces a sort, no way around it. Are
you
sorting in memory or disk?

Dan Fink

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I got a query that selects a list of addresses based an occurence at that
location.
this query comes back in less than 2 seconds without a distinct clause on
the concatenated name. When I add the distict clause it takes over 40
seconds. I've tried adjusting various sort area sizes and buffer sizes to
see if I can speed this up. Anybody have a clue if there is something in
particular that I can check.
8.1.6 on NT rules based. wtihout the distinct clause it brings back about
10,000 records.
select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
'||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
FROM LOCATION L,
 STREET_REQS SR
WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
  AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
  AND SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
  AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
  AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL
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RE: RE: Slow select distinct

2002-04-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Thanks for the idea - however the alternative you suggested actually ran
slower.
It's seems to be the size of the distinct sort.

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>- Original Message -
>From: Shaw John-P55297 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 06:13:42
>
>Unfortunately there are duplicates so they do need
>the distinct clause. I
>have tried several permutations of the query and
>distinct clauses including
>the most popular alternative:
>select distinct wrecks 
>from 
>(select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||'
>'||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
>'||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
>
>FROM LOCATION L,
> STREET_REQS SR
>WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
>  AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
>  AND SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
>  AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
>  AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL);
>However it all seems to go back to the sort on the
>9500 rows being returned.
>

Try a 'divide and conquer' approach then, eliminating duplicates first as
they might occur from several rows in STREET_REQS matching the same row in
LOCATION, then by eliminating the remaining duplicates. Should lighten the
burden of sorting. What about :

select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||'
 '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
 '||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
FROM LOCATION L,
 (select DISTINCT ID
  FROM STREET_REQS
  WHERE TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
AND CODE LIKE 'O%'
AND ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL) SR
WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
  AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL;

Regards,

Stephane Faroult
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RE: Slow select distinct

2002-04-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Unfortunately there are duplicates so they do need the distinct clause. I
have tried several permutations of the query and distinct clauses including
the most popular alternative:
select distinct wrecks 
from 
(select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
'||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
FROM LOCATION L,
 STREET_REQS SR
WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
  AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
  AND SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
  AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
  AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL);
However it all seems to go back to the sort on the 9500 rows being returned.


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Shaw John-P55297 wrote:
> 
> I got a query that selects a list of addresses based an occurence at that
> location.
> this query comes back in less than 2 seconds without a distinct clause on
> the concatenated name. When I add the distict clause it takes over 40
> seconds. I've tried adjusting various sort area sizes and buffer sizes to
> see if I can speed this up. Anybody have a clue if there is something in
> particular that I can check.
> 8.1.6 on NT rules based. wtihout the distinct clause it brings back about
> 10,000 records.
> select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
> '||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
> FROM LOCATION L,
>  STREET_REQS SR
> WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
>   AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
>   AND SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
>   AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
>   AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL

Checking the execution plan in both case could have been interesting. In
any case, DISTINCT is rarely necessary with a join. Look at your query.
Everything comes from the LOCATION table, STREET_REQS just happens to be
here to provide a filter. Unless LOCATION holds duplicates for the
columns you want to bring back, you can avoid the DISTINCT. Both 'IS
NULL' and 'IS NOT NULL' (less sure about the later with latest versions)
usually translate as 'full scan', so forget them if you wish to get
quickly to the data. Hopefully (and your DISTINCT-less result seems to
indicate this) the TYPE and/or CODE conditions are very selective. If
scanning LOCATION is not too painful, this can give good results :

 select LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
 '||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
 FROM LOCATION L
 WHERE L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
   AND EXISTS (SELECT NULL
   FROM STREET_REQS SR
   WHERE SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
 AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
 AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL
 AND SR.ID = L.ID)

Another solution could be:

select LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
 '||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
 FROM LOCATION L
 WHERE L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
   AND L.ID IN (SELECT SR.ID
   FROM STREET_REQS SR
   WHERE SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
 AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
 AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL)

However, this is unlikely to be efficient if the inner query returns
10,000 rows.
Do not play with parameters before having tried everything else.
 
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Slow select distinct

2002-04-29 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I got a query that selects a list of addresses based an occurence at that
location.
this query comes back in less than 2 seconds without a distinct clause on
the concatenated name. When I add the distict clause it takes over 40
seconds. I've tried adjusting various sort area sizes and buffer sizes to
see if I can speed this up. Anybody have a clue if there is something in
particular that I can check.
8.1.6 on NT rules based. wtihout the distinct clause it brings back about
10,000 records.
select DISTINCT LTRIM(L.STREET_ADDRESS_BEGIN||' '||L.STREET_NAME_PREFIX||'
'||L.STREET_NAME||' '||L.STREET_NAME_SUFFIX) WRECKS
FROM LOCATION L,
 STREET_REQS SR
WHERE L.ID = SR.ID
  AND L.STREET_NAME IS NOT NULL
  AND SR.TYPE IN ('KED','KAD')
  AND SR.CODE LIKE 'O%'
  AND SR.ORIG_STREET_REQ_ID IS NULL
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Clob, toad, and a trigger not working

2002-04-25 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I've encountered a weird error (no it's not my boss). It's on W2K and
happens on 8.1.6 an 9i.

I've got two tables with clobs
CREATE TABLE CLOB_TEST ( 
  EIDNUMBER, 
  CLOB_TEST  CLOB ) ; 
--
CREATE TABLE CLOB_TEST_AFTER (
  EIDNUMBER, 
  CLOB_TEST  CLOB ) ; 
and created the following trigger:

CREATE OR REPLACE TRIGGER CLOB_TEST_AI AFTER INSERT ON CLOB_TEST
FOR EACH ROW
DECLARE

   buffer   long;
   len  number(10);
   eid  number;
   clobber  clob;
   sql_stmt varchar2(100);

BEGIN
 eid := :NEW.EID;
 clobber := :NEW.CLOB_TEST;
 len :=  dbms_lob.getlength(clobber);
 DBMS_LOB.READ(clobber,len,1,buffer);
 insert into clob_test_after (eid, clob_test) values (eid, buffer);
END;

This trigger works fine when I do an insert into the first table from
sqlplus 
but when I do an insert from TOAD or another third party application I get
the following error messages:
ora-21560 argument 2 is null, invalid, or out of range
ora-06512 at sys.dbms_lob line 648
ora-06512 at clob_test_ai line 17
ora-04088 error during execution of trigger
clob_test_ai

Anyone know why this error occurs from third party stuff and not from
sqlplus - or better yet a work around?
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RE: Any issues with Developer 6i running against Oracle 9i

2002-04-23 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Just started testing it. So far the only problems I've had is pl/sql stuff -
package body constants differing from specs, and one proc where they
referenced rowid:
type xyz is table of rowid index by binary_integer; 
where there was a bug workaround and now the workaround doesn't work.

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Hi All,

Does anyone know of any problems of running forms/reports 6i against Oracle
9i on WinNT?

Thanks
Rick


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Execution plan optimizer Question

2002-04-22 Thread Shaw John-P55297

8.1.6 on NT
The product that I support is still Rule based. I am planning to bring it
over to Cost based in the near future. What I wanted to do was to set the
init parameter to 'RULE' and then run statistics on the database. My boss
says we can't do this because "the execution plan was different for the "set
to rule and have statistics" vs. "set to choose and no statistics". 
I haven't heard this before - can anybody point me to the Fine Manual to
confirm or refute this. Perhaps this is another of those fine urban legends?
For the time being I am starting out with a small test database.
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RE: User_product_profile and sqlplusw

2002-04-16 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I had to try it out, this works on 9i and W2K.
insert into product_user_profile (product,userid,attribute,char_value) 
values
('SQL*Plus','TRACK','INSERT','DISABLED');

Connected to:
Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 9.0.1.1.1 - Production

SQL> insert into test (aa,bb) values ('A',1);
SP2-0544: invalid command: insert

SQL> insert into test (aa,bb) values ('A',1);
SP2-0544: invalid command: insert
SQL> connect system/manager
Connected.
SQL> delete from product_user_profile;

1 row deleted.

SQL> commit;

Commit complete.

SQL> insert into test (aa,bb) values ('A',1);

1 row created.

SQL> 

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Thanks but that does not work either.

Rick


 

Shaw

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I haven't tried this for a while, but I think it's case sensitive. try
'sqlplusw.exe'

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Hi,

I have successfully restricted insert,update,delete using
product_user_profile if the user users sqlplus at the command prompt.
However I cannot
get it to work if they use sqlplusw.exe.  Any ideas what entry I have to
use to enforce this.

This is what I used to restrict product access with sqlplus.exe

This works for command prompt sqlplus
insert into
SYSTEM.PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE(PRODUCT,USERID,ATTRIBUTE,CHAR_VALUE)
values ('SQLPlus','USER_ID','INSERT','DISABLED') ;

This does not work for windows sqlplus
insert into
SYSTEM.PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE(PRODUCT,USERID,ATTRIBUTE,CHAR_VALUE)
values ('SQLPlusw','USER_ID','INSERT','DISABLED') ;


Thanks
Rick


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RE: User_product_profile and sqlplusw

2002-04-15 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I haven't tried this for a while, but I think it's case sensitive. try
'sqlplusw.exe'

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Hi,

I have successfully restricted insert,update,delete using
product_user_profile if the user users sqlplus at the command prompt.
However I cannot
get it to work if they use sqlplusw.exe.  Any ideas what entry I have to
use to enforce this.

This is what I used to restrict product access with sqlplus.exe

This works for command prompt sqlplus
insert into
SYSTEM.PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE(PRODUCT,USERID,ATTRIBUTE,CHAR_VALUE)
values ('SQLPlus','USER_ID','INSERT','DISABLED') ;

This does not work for windows sqlplus
insert into
SYSTEM.PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE(PRODUCT,USERID,ATTRIBUTE,CHAR_VALUE)
values ('SQLPlusw','USER_ID','INSERT','DISABLED') ;


Thanks
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Is it possible to remove default (TOAD users)

2002-04-12 Thread Shaw John-P55297

8.1.6 NT TOAD
I have a developer assign a default value to a column, and they don't want
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speak) but they are able to see the fact that there is a default in TOAD on
that column and of course the other columns don't have a default of NULL on
them so they would like it removed - it makes them nervous. Is there any way
to just get rid of the default showing up without deleting and re-adding the
column? Should I tell them not to meddle anymore?  
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RE: migrate from 8i to 9i

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Another partitioning question part 2

2002-03-18 Thread Shaw John-P55297
partition by range(owner_id,type)
(partition p1 values less than (2000) and type ='X' tablespace test,
partition p2 values less than (5000) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p3 values less than (10000) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p4 values less than (5) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p5 values less than (10) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test)
partition p6 values less that (10) and owner_table !='X' tablespace
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RE: Another partitioning question

2002-03-18 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Thanks for the help.

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John - At last a question I can answer! Anyway I think so.
You can partition on a concatenated key. I just did this on our data
warehouse and brought query times from over 2 minutes to under 10 seconds.
Here is what my partition looks like.

create table sumacctfact2
nologging
pctfree 5
partition by range ( periodgrain, periodenddate )
(
partition sum_fy_01 values less than ('FY', to_date('01011999','mmdd'))
   tablespace data_fy_01
   storage ( maxextents unlimited ),
partition sum_fy_02 values less than ('FY', to_date('01012000','mmdd'))
   tablespace data_fy_02
   storage ( maxextents unlimited ),
partition sum_fy_03 values less than ('FY', to_date('01012001','mmdd'))
   tablespace data_fy_03
   storage ( maxextents unlimited ),
partition sum_fy_04 values less than ('FY', to_date('02012001','mmdd'))
   tablespace data_fy_04
   storage ( maxextents unlimited ),   

Dennis Williams
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I think what my boss is asking me to do is not possible, but since I don't
have much experience with partitioning I thought I'd ask here (I did read
some of manuals but didn't find an answer that suited my conditions). My
boss wants a table partitioned by 2 columns - seq_no and type. If the type =
'X' then it's just a range partition, but then he wants another partition
that contains all data that type!='X' but is inclusive of the entire range.
Is this possible?
Something like (I know this syntax isn't correct )
create table test_part(
id number(11) unique,
owner_id number(11) not null,
type varchar2(30) not null,
name varchar2(40))
partition by range(owner_id,type)
(partition p1 values less than (2000) and type ='X' tablespace test,
partition p2 values less than (5000) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p3 values less than (1) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p4 values less than (5) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p5 values less than (100000) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test)
partition p6 values less that (10) and owner_table !='X' tablespace
test;
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Another partitioning question

2002-03-15 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I think what my boss is asking me to do is not possible, but since I don't
have much experience with partitioning I thought I'd ask here (I did read
some of manuals but didn't find an answer that suited my conditions). My
boss wants a table partitioned by 2 columns - seq_no and type. If the type =
'X' then it's just a range partition, but then he wants another partition
that contains all data that type!='X' but is inclusive of the entire range.
Is this possible?
Something like (I know this syntax isn't correct )
create table test_part(
id number(11) unique,
owner_id number(11) not null,
type varchar2(30) not null,
name varchar2(40))
partition by range(owner_id,type)
(partition p1 values less than (2000) and type ='X' tablespace test,
partition p2 values less than (5000) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p3 values less than (1) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p4 values less than (5) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test,
partition p5 values less than (10) and owner_table ='X' tablespace
test)
partition p6 values less that (10) and owner_table !='X' tablespace
test;
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RE: Partitioning question

2002-03-14 Thread Shaw John-P55297

You're right about the performance - they (the ones before I got here) tried
to run the stats and use choose and the performance was terrible. Now it is
not an option to use CBO. One of my tasks is to set up an environment and
take it to CBO, but this is not the immediate priority.

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John,

First question, how do you know that your application is rule based?
Most
application scan be switched to cost optimization with no changes, although
I
will admit performance sometimes goes south.  I prefer to set the database
to
'choose' mode which allows the best of both worlds.

Dick Goulet

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I am new to the world of partitioning. 816 on W2K. In a white paper on
metalink "How to Implement Partitioning in Oracle Versions 8 and 8i " it
states that "The RULE-based optimizer does not take the partitioning of
tables and 
indexes into account."
My question is - if your application is still rule based is there any value
to partitioning? Some of the tables are over 30 million rows and 5G. If my
understanding is correct I wouldn't see any performance improvement but
would make maintenance simpler.
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Partitioning question

2002-03-14 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I am new to the world of partitioning. 816 on W2K. In a white paper on
metalink "How to Implement Partitioning in Oracle Versions 8 and 8i " it
states that "The RULE-based optimizer does not take the partitioning of
tables and 
indexes into account."
My question is - if your application is still rule based is there any value
to partitioning? Some of the tables are over 30 million rows and 5G. If my
understanding is correct I wouldn't see any performance improvement but
would make maintenance simpler.
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RE: Cost vs Rule

2002-03-07 Thread Shaw John-P55297

The following is from the Tim Gorman paper

·   OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING
This initialization parameter represents a percentage value, ranging between
the values of 0 and 99.  The default value of 0 indicates to the CBO that 0%
of database blocks accessed using indexed access can be expected to be found
in the Buffer Cache of the Oracle SGA.  This implies that all index accesses
will require a physical read from the I/O subsystem for every logical read
from the Buffer Cache, also known as a 0% hit ratio on the Buffer Cache.
This parameter applies only to the CBO's calculations of accesses for blocks
in an index, not for the blocks in the table related to the index.
·   OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ
This initialization parameter is also a percentage value, ranging between 1
and 1, representing a comparison between the relative cost of physical
I/O requests for indexed access and full table-scans.  The default value of
100 indicates to the cost-based optimizer that indexed access is 100% as
costly (i.e., equally costly) as FULL table scan access.
As it turns out, the default values for each of these parameters are wildly
unsuitable and unrealistic.  I'll prove this assertion later in this paper,
but for now, suffice to say that OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING should be set to 90
and OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ should be set to a value which usually ranges
between 10 and 50 for most online transaction processing (OLTP) systems, For
data warehousing or other decision-support systems (DSS), it might be
prudent to simply set this parameter to 50.  

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just changed index_cost_adj from 100 to 1

what is index_caching?

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have you tried adjusting optimzer_index_caching and
optimizer_index_cost_adj?

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I work in a dev shop - most of the sql is canned and pretty basic.  We've
been running CBO in all of our dev environments, but we have a few long txns
that just take forever.  At the request of some savvy developers, I turned
on RBO, and it brought down execution times dramatically.

I've been analyzing affected tables often (we do a lot of bulk load/unload
for testing), and have played with partitioning and clustering, particularly
on one table that's just a dog.  CBO will always do a FTS where RBO uses the
PK to retrieve data.

Where to go next?  I've been unable to alter the costs dramatically enough
to make any real difference in execution time.

thx

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RE: Cost vs Rule

2002-03-07 Thread Shaw John-P55297

have you tried adjusting optimzer_index_caching and
optimizer_index_cost_adj?

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I work in a dev shop - most of the sql is canned and pretty basic.  We've
been running CBO in all of our dev environments, but we have a few long txns
that just take forever.  At the request of some savvy developers, I turned
on RBO, and it brought down execution times dramatically.

I've been analyzing affected tables often (we do a lot of bulk load/unload
for testing), and have played with partitioning and clustering, particularly
on one table that's just a dog.  CBO will always do a FTS where RBO uses the
PK to retrieve data.

Where to go next?  I've been unable to alter the costs dramatically enough
to make any real difference in execution time.

thx

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alter index rebuild online

2002-03-05 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I'm still back on 8.1.6 and when I tried to use 'alter index rebuild online'
I got corrupted indexes. I saw on metalink that it's supposed to be fixed by
8.1.7.1 - anybody using successfully now?
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RE: LIKE and % operator

2002-03-04 Thread Shaw John-P55297

The search is case sensitive, try something like
select * from sonusrpt where upper(subject) like '%GENERAL%';

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I am running oracle8i on solaris8.  I have a word ( General ) in my column
named "subject", I try to run SQL using LIKE and % to grep any data having
the word ( General ) but it displayed no rows selected.  Does someone have
any idea why?  Below is my SQL I used.

SQL> select * from sonusrpt where subject like '%general%';

no rows selected.


Thanks,
David
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RE: How's the job market?

2002-03-01 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Not like it was last the couple of years. If you just scan monster and
hotjobs there appear to be a lot, but in reality the market is a lot softer.
Most places don't seem to be willing to pay for relocation right now because
there is a lot of local talent available, especially in major telecom
markets. My current employer was planning on hiring 50 additional Oracle
types (mainly developers) up until December but now have a hiring freeze and
cut out 2 consultants. I know of at least 2 companies that have recinded
offers they had made. Start networking early.

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This is not a resume and I am not looking for a job.  But...

My company keeps losing people in the DBA group and not replacing them.  We
have more work than we
have ever had but we still don't replace people.  Management is looking at
hiring an outside company
to monitor the databases and provide monthly reports.  I am just afraid the
clock is ticking.

I have over ten years as a DBA in ADABAS, Oracle, and SQL Server.  I am
familiar with Honeywell, IBM,
Unix, and MS servers.  I have been here for years and I don't want to leave
but my question for the
group is, what is the job market like and how tuff would it be to find a job
if I needed to do so?

Ron
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RE: Re[2]: address parse

2002-02-26 Thread Shaw John-P55297

usually street number street name and street type, but it could also include
street prefix , apartment number, and directional suffix.

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Shaw,

S> street address

How is it formatted?


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RE: address parse

2002-02-26 Thread Shaw John-P55297

street address

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S> Anybody already have an address string parser (plsql) already written
that
S> they would care to share?

Address?  IP?  Internet mail?  USPS?  Memory address?  URL?


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address parse

2002-02-26 Thread Shaw John-P55297
Title: RE: UWIN and Oracle



Anybody already have an address string parser (plsql) 
already written that they would care to share?

   


RE: Weird ODBC Issue

2002-02-18 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Do they have primary keys? I seem to remeber that Access needed the Oracle
table to have a primary key on it.

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No clue.  User installed.

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What ODBC Driver are you using?  I've seen this with certain builds of
Microsoft's driver, really quirky on W98.


David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA, OCP
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I'm not exactly sure why, but I have a user who wants to see Oracle tables
in Access.  Whatever.  So, the user can go into our pal SCOTT/TIGER no
problem and look at tables from user_tables (not all_tables, which I find
weird, but, what the hay).  But, if the user tries to go into APPS/APPS, he
can only see one table, and that one is owned by ADS.

Anyone have similar problems?  Any clue as to a resolution?  Let me know...
Yer pal,
Bambi.
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RE: HOW TO KNOW INDEX NOT IN USE?

2002-02-05 Thread Shaw John-P55297
Title: RE: HOW TO KNOW INDEX NOT IN USE?



I can 
get it.

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  Nope.  Same behavior for me. 
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  Can anyone else get to this article? 
  My browser gets redirected to http://download-west.oracle.com/otndoc/oracle9i/901_doc/appdev.901/a89852/d_metada.htm#1656 
  
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  Hello Seema 
  Oracle magazine for 01-02/2002 has on page 91 an article 
  that gives step by step instructions on this issue for 
  9i. They also have a reference to: http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/jan02/metadata.html 
  
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OEM question

2002-01-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I have 2 8.1.6 instances running on a NT4 (sp6) server using the same
listener.
With Enterprise manager (oem server is a different machine), I can see -
discover one of the instances but not the other. If I use toad or sqlplus I
can connect to the other instance.
Any guesses as to what I need to do to see this other instance with
enterprise manager?
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-24 Thread Shaw John-P55297

Back when I used GUPTA (now I think it's called Centura), those guys claimed
it was Bruce Scott (one of the co founders of Oracle) and the ever popular
cat .

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Well, Scott Gossett has certainly been with Oracle a long time, he
definitely teaches the advanced seminars (take them if you can), he's
one of the best instructors with Oracle University (and for the other
instructors I know that haunt this list, please note "one of" -- you
guys are great as well)

I'll have to ask him the next time I talk to him.


Rachel

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> there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which
> one
> it is or even if it's one of the instructors?
> 
> 
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> > for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
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> > an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
> > meeting
> > Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
> > urban
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> > Jim
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Going to Cost

2002-01-22 Thread Shaw John-P55297

I have a large app that is still running rule based, we are finally going to
take the plunge and try to start going cost based. The first time we tried
this the performance was terrible in a lot of places. Does anyone have any
good white papers or hints/tips on what to look for  on areas that might be
problems or pitfalls?
tia
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