RE: FW: Electrical background
Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: FW: Electrical background
Only when they don't know the words. Mohan, Ross MohanR To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L @STARS-SMI.co[EMAIL PROTECTED] m cc: Sent by: rootSubject: RE: FW: Electrical background 01/24/2002 10:15 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: FW: Electrical background
Regular relays do not hum. If it does this means it's switching on and off at certain frequency on which it's designed. Then it's not a relay it could be one of these devices that convert DC to AC. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: FW: Electrical background
Yes, especially if they don't know the words. :) Scott Lockhart Oracle DBA I-Link Draper, UT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RE: FW: Electrical background
Ross, You've got to define hum. || It's in my Rotel preamp. Personally, I think it should shut the hell up. As for the sound...it's kind of a nyah nyah nyah nyah nayaaah nayh snip BTW: Definition of 'VERY faint' is in a closed almost sound proof room with your ear right next to the relay. || this is sitting *across* the room with the kids playing Where's Osama? in the next room. Too loud, methinks. || thanks...moving to OT rather than face a Jared Fatwah.. Reply Separator Author: Mohan; Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/24/2002 7:15 AM Is it natural for relays to hum? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: FW: Electrical background
That would be a Rectifier. Inverters change AC to DC. Converters change the frequency of AC to AC. -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. EE ATCO Electric, Metering Services Phone: (780) 420-4142 Fax: (780) 420-3854 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Khedr, Waleed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: FW: Electrical background Regular relays do not hum. If it does this means it's switching on and off at certain frequency on which it's designed. Then it's not a relay it could be one of these devices that convert DC to AC. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: FW: Electrical background
A Rectifier changes AC to DC, usually handled by a Diode and an Inverter DC to AC. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 16:10 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That would be a Rectifier. Inverters change AC to DC. Converters change the frequency of AC to AC. -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. EE ATCO Electric, Metering Services Phone: (780) 420-4142 Fax: (780) 420-3854 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Khedr, Waleed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: FW: Electrical background Regular relays do not hum. If it does this means it's switching on and off at certain frequency on which it's designed. Then it's not a relay it could be one of these devices that convert DC to AC. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cornio, Georgette Ms USACFSC INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:RE: FW: Electrical background
Ross, You've got to define hum. A relay that is run off of an AC current can have a VERY faint hum. A relay that is running on AC current when designed for DC current has a distinctive 'hum' sometimes more similar to a high speed clicking. Also a relay that has a coil nearing the end of it's life will 'hum' as defined before. The best test I know of in this case is to observe the relay's contacts (possible only on open frame relays) in the dark. If there is a faint arc visible when the relay is suppose to be closed, it's time for a replacement. Dick Goulet BTW: Definition of 'VERY faint' is in a closed almost sound proof room with your ear right next to the relay. Reply Separator Author: Mohan; Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/24/2002 7:15 AM Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: FW: Electrical background
Ooops ... Rectifiers convert AC to DC, Inverters convert DC to AC (My wife would be lost when we go car camping without my handy Inverter!). Guidry, Chris chris.guidry@atcoele To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] ctric.com cc: Sent by:Subject: RE: FW: Electrical background [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/24/2002 03:10 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L That would be a Rectifier. Inverters change AC to DC. Converters change the frequency of AC to AC. -- Chris J. Guidry P.Eng. EE ATCO Electric, Metering Services Phone: (780) 420-4142 Fax: (780) 420-3854 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Khedr, Waleed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: FW: Electrical background Regular relays do not hum. If it does this means it's switching on and off at certain frequency on which it's designed. Then it's not a relay it could be one of these devices that convert DC to AC. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Is it natural for relays to hum? -Original Message- SO, what did you want? Dick Goulet Ancient Electronics Tech tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT Reply Separator Author: Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/23/2002 10:30 AM Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guidry, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT
FW: Electrical background
Title: FW: Electrical background Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list. I apologize. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Oracle discussion. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus spake the master programmer: Let the programmers by many and the managers few, Then all will be productive - The Tao of Programming -Original Message- From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:10 PM To: 'olist' Subject: Electrical background Anybody got a EE or electronics background? I've got a question about relays. Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thus spake the master programmer: Let the programmers by many and the managers few, Then all will be productive - The Tao of Programming