Re: 9i OCP Details
It must have been either Scott Gossett or Scott Heisey. But not that Scott. The two other Scott's are still with Oracle Education, I think. Glenn Stauffer wrote: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses and is a very good instructor. I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking forward to it. Glenn Stauffer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9i OCP Details
Quite right. It was Bruce Scott (didn't he do something at IOUG this year?) and I believe Tiger is (or presumably was since this was so long ago and the poor beastie has presumably karked it) his cat. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. -Original Message- Rachel Carmichael Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the Scott of Scott/tiger --- Glenn Stauffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: > > >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > >>or guys at his level provide. > >> > >> > > > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's > >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no > course > >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys > offer > >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > > > > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the > > internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen > it > offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was > told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. > > I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based > Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. > > Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile > courses > and is a very good instructor. > > I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking > > forward to it. > > Glenn Stauffer > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Glenn Stauffer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9i OCP Details
you find the classes (I took them with Scott for 8i) by searching the Oracle education site, and searching on seminars. They aren't given often and it's likely that travel will be necessary --- Pete Sharman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott does (he > still > works with Oracle) is very, very good. Most recent thing I've seen > him > working on was the OCM exam, which no doubt explains why it was so > hard! > > I believe the Internals course morphed into a series of internal > courses > (i.e. only Oracle staff can attend) that are three to five days long. > There > are now 8 of them. They are also presented to customers as one day > seminars, by the same instructors that run the internal versions. > Not too > sure how you locate them, but they may be marketed with a course code > starting with DSI (Data Server Internals). > > Pete > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > "Oh no it's not. It's much harder than that!" > Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA. > > > -Original Message- > Gogala, Mladen > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:36 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that > internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. > > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > Phone:(203) 459-6855 > Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: > > >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > >>or guys at his level provide. > >> > >> > > > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's > >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no > course > >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys > offer > >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > > > > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the > > internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen > it > offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was > told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. > > I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based > Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. > > Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile > courses > and is a very good instructor. > > I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking > > forward to it. > > Glenn Stauffer > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Glenn Stauffer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Gogala, Mladen > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Pete Sharman > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California
Re: 9i OCP Details
Rachel Carmichael wrote: Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the Scott of Scott/tiger Thanks for the correction, indeed a web search found the reference on technet to Bruce Scott. Scott Gossett was the instructor I have; he was probably explaining that he wasn't that 'Scott', but I was not paying close attention. Glenn -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: 9i OCP Details
what office is that internals class taught out of? does anyone else teach it? how many days is it? > > From: "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 11:35:34 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 9i OCP Details > > You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that > internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. > > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > Phone:(203) 459-6855 > Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: > > >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > >>or guys at his level provide. > >> > >> > > > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's > >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course > >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer > >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > > > > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the > internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it > offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was > told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. > > I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based > Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. > > Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses > and is a very good instructor. > > I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking > forward to it. > > Glenn Stauffer > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Glenn Stauffer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Gogala, Mladen > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9i OCP Details
Well that not too surprising. Just about everything Scott does (he still works with Oracle) is very, very good. Most recent thing I've seen him working on was the OCM exam, which no doubt explains why it was so hard! I believe the Internals course morphed into a series of internal courses (i.e. only Oracle staff can attend) that are three to five days long. There are now 8 of them. They are also presented to customers as one day seminars, by the same instructors that run the internal versions. Not too sure how you locate them, but they may be marketed with a course code starting with DSI (Data Server Internals). Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA. -Original Message- Gogala, Mladen Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis >>or guys at his level provide. >> >> > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses and is a very good instructor. I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking forward to it. Glenn Stauffer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
/*+ DISCLAIMER */ I have no association with Cary or hotsos (did I get it right this time Cary?) and I've never been to one of his classes... but knowing Cary, having talked to him, having had his help on a few issues and questions and having been to his presentations, I'd say if you can go, GO GO GO. RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/26/2003 10:29 AM Totally agree. Make the pitch that this class alone could push your skills up to the next level. It is a real eye-opener. I'll bet it is much less than an Oracle Education class. As a bonus I think they usually let you use their tools for a month. Use your negotiating skills. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > or guys at his level provide. > > I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and > no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these > guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). > > Gudmundur > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net <http://www.orafaq.net> > -- > Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com <http://www.fatcity.com> > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net <http://www.orafaq.net> -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com <http://www.fatcity.com> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9i OCP Details
You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis >>or guys at his level provide. >> >> > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses and is a very good instructor. I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking forward to it. Glenn Stauffer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
Totally agree. Make the pitch that this class alone could push your skills up to the next level. It is a real eye-opener. I'll bet it is much less than an Oracle Education class. As a bonus I think they usually let you use their tools for a month. Use your negotiating skills. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > or guys at his level provide. > > I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and > no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these > guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). > > Gudmundur > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net <http://www.orafaq.net> > -- > Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com <http://www.fatcity.com> > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net <http://www.orafaq.net> -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com <http://www.fatcity.com> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: 9i OCP Details
Scott Gossett taught/teaches the Data Internals class and he is not the Scott of Scott/tiger --- Glenn Stauffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: > > >>If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > >>or guys at his level provide. > >> > >> > > > >I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's > >'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no > course > >I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys > offer > >(and I've taken quite a few). > > > > > > > > The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the > > internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen > it > offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was > told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. > > I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based > Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. > > Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile > courses > and is a very good instructor. > > I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking > > forward to it. > > Glenn Stauffer > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Glenn Stauffer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
Title: RE: Re: 9i OCP Details It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > or guys at his level provide. > > I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on > Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and > no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these > guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). > > Gudmundur > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: 9i OCP Details
Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses and is a very good instructor. I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking forward to it. Glenn Stauffer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. > > From: "Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > > or guys at his level provide. > > I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's > 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course > I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer > (and I've taken quite a few). > > Gudmundur > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: 9i OCP Details
> If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis > or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). Gudmundur -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
IIRC = if I remember correctly. Yes, you have just to sit at these courses. They are not really advanced courses, especially when the instructor doesn't know, what's he talking about. That's why I put advanced in double quotes. If you want real advanced courses, go with Data Server Internals or seminars what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:04 AM > this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that > one. > > what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit > and listen to the instructor? > > how good are those advanced courses? > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM > > > > Hi! > > > > There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 > > IIRC. > > > > At least then the requirements were: > > Had to be 9i OCP. > > Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. > > Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, > > that shows OCM actually is worth something. > > There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, > > refresh your recovery skills ;) > > > > It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to > Chicago > > from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe > then > > (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the > money - > > I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Tanel. > > > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > > > > > > > to get OCM you need to > > > > > > take 2 advanced classes > > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different > OCMs? > > btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go > > with > > > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > > > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking > whether > > you > > > > > should: > > > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > > > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you > still > > work > > > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or > > two. > > > > > > > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At > that > > > > time > > > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still > > work > > > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > > > > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > > > > expect > > > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be > closed. > > > > This > > > > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
If you are on windoze this might be of great help. I use it to decipher a lot of such acronyms :-) http://www.gurunet.com/ Naveen > -Original Message- > From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:35 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not > familiar with that > one. > > what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i > took you just sit > and listen to the instructor? > > how good are those advanced courses? > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM > > > > Hi! > > > > There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. > Now there's 50 > > IIRC. > > > > At least then the requirements were: > > Had to be 9i OCP. > > Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. > > Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm > glad about it, > > that shows OCM actually is worth something. > > There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. > Anyway, when going, > > refresh your recovery skills ;) > > > > It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to > Chicago > > from other side of the globe, because they didn't take > tests in Europe > then > > (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the > money - > > I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) > > > > Cheers, > > Tanel. > > > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > > > > > > > to get OCM you need to > > > > > > take 2 advanced classes > > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are > different > OCMs? > > btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to > employers, I'd go > > with > > > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > > > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer > that way ;) > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking > whether > > you > > > > > should: > > > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > > > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, > whether you > still > > work > > > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring > for a class or > > two. > > > > > > > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow > learner). At > that > > > > time > > > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily > available, and I still > > work > > > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > > > > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go > the 9i route. I > > > > expect > > > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be > closed. > > > > This > > > > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that one. what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit and listen to the instructor? how good are those advanced courses? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM > Hi! > > There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 > IIRC. > > At least then the requirements were: > Had to be 9i OCP. > Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. > Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, > that shows OCM actually is worth something. > There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, > refresh your recovery skills ;) > > It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago > from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then > (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - > I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) > > Cheers, > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > > > > to get OCM you need to > > > > take 2 advanced classes > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? > btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go > with > > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > > > > > Tanel. > > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether > you > > > > should: > > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still > work > > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or > two. > > > > > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that > > > time > > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still > work > > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > > > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > > > expect > > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. > > > This > > > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > > > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features > > > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > > > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > > > > > > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Senthil. > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > -- > > > > Author: Senthil Kumar D > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > > -
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
Hi! There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 IIRC. At least then the requirements were: Had to be 9i OCP. Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, that shows OCM actually is worth something. There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, refresh your recovery skills ;) It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) Cheers, Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM > to get OCM you need to > > take 2 advanced classes > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? > > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > > > Hi! > > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > > > Tanel. > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > > > > Senthil > > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you > > > should: > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. > > > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that > > time > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > > expect > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. > > This > > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features > > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > > > > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Senthil. > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Senthil Kumar D > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > - > > &g
RE: 9i OCP Details
The story I heard from one of the senior Oracle Education Instructors was that some jerks completed the OCP and then bragged about how they had done it without ever logging into Oracle. So Oracle added the requirement to complete a course. I asked the instructor, "so you guys are going to ensure nobody gets out of your class without logging in?". My reply was a sly grin. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You'll want to verify this on otn.oracle.com, but it SEEMS (I stress seems because this is the way I understand it.) that as of sometime last year (September maybe), if one starts the 9i track with no prior exams there is an in-class training requirement which must be met. However, if you already had your 8i, you could simply take the 9i upgrade with no classroom obligation. It's been a while since I read the note on this, but my recollection is that there was no restriction defined on doing it that way, meaning I think you could possibly still do the 8i track, then 9i upgrade and avoid the expensive classroom requirement. If it is not this way, someone please correct me as I've already steered one person wrong by encouraging him to complete the 8i track (he has taken the 8i Admin exam already). >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 12:29PM >>> Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). NOTICE BY ZALE CORPORATION This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Zale Corporation that is proprietary, confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unintended transmission does not constitute waiver of any privilege. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
don't know about that. but if you take and pass the 9i upgrade exam (and you currently hold an 8i certif) , nothing else is needed. you get your 9i certif. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > Hi! > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > Tanel. > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > Senthil > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you > > should: > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that > time > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > expect > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. > This > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > Dennis Williams > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Senthil. > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Senthil Kumar D > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want
RE: 9i OCP Details
That may be the case... however, since my employer pays for training but I am on the hook for the exams, it makes sense in my situation to go for the 9i cert. Bart >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 02:50PM >>> What? My understanding is that you can be certified for 9i if you take the 8i exams first and the 9i upgrade exam even without the courses. -Original Message-From: Bart Kersteter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi Senthil, I am in the same boat as you. I have worked with Oracle for about 7 years but am finally getting going on my OCP work. Since all of the older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New Features Course as well. You can take all of the exams first, but my understanding is that Oracle won't issue you the actual certification until you've taken one of their authorized classes. I personally see no reason to certify for 8i even though I work with both 8i and 9i databases. HTH Bart >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 10:59AM >>>Hi Group,I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams.To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners.Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams.Suggestion are appreciated.ThanksSenthil.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Please NoteThe information in this E-mail message is legally privilegedand confidential information intended only for the use of theindividual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message,are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward thisE-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error,please notify the sender. Thank you Please NoteThe information in this E-mail message is legally privilegedand confidential information intended only for the use of theindividual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message,are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward thisE-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error,please notify the sender. Thank you
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details > > Hi! > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) > > Tanel. > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > > > > Senthil > >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you > > should: > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > > 2. Take the 9i exams. > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. > > > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that > time > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. > >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I > expect > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. > This > > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > > > Dennis Williams > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -Original Message- > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Senthil. > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Senthil Kumar D > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 9i OCP Details
What? My understanding is that you can be certified for 9i if you take the 8i exams first and the 9i upgrade exam even without the courses. -Original Message-From: Bart Kersteter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:50 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi Senthil, I am in the same boat as you. I have worked with Oracle for about 7 years but am finally getting going on my OCP work. Since all of the older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New Features Course as well. You can take all of the exams first, but my understanding is that Oracle won't issue you the actual certification until you've taken one of their authorized classes. I personally see no reason to certify for 8i even though I work with both 8i and 9i databases. HTH Bart >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 10:59AM >>>Hi Group,I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams.To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners.Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams.Suggestion are appreciated.ThanksSenthil.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Please NoteThe information in this E-mail message is legally privilegedand confidential information intended only for the use of theindividual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message,are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward thisE-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error,please notify the sender. Thank you
Re: 9i OCP Details
Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM > Senthil >So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you > should: > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. > 2. Take the 9i exams. > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. > >Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. >If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This > has already happened with Oracle 8. > > Dennis Williams > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Hi Group, > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. > > Suggestion are appreciated. > > Thanks > Senthil. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Senthil Kumar D > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: 9i OCP Details
Hi Senthil, I am in the same boat as you. I have worked with Oracle for about 7 years but am finally getting going on my OCP work. Since all of the older Oracle Ed. courses I took are no longer valid, I will probably submit to the New Features Course as well. You can take all of the exams first, but my understanding is that Oracle won't issue you the actual certification until you've taken one of their authorized classes. I personally see no reason to certify for 8i even though I work with both 8i and 9i databases. HTH Bart >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 10:59AM >>>Hi Group,I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams.To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners.Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams.Suggestion are appreciated.ThanksSenthil.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Please NoteThe information in this E-mail message is legally privilegedand confidential information intended only for the use of theindividual(s) named above. If you, the reader of this message,are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not further disseminate, distribute, or forward thisE-mail message. If you have received this E-mail in error,please notify the sender. Thank you
RE: 9i OCP Details
You'll want to verify this on otn.oracle.com, but it SEEMS (I stress seems because this is the way I understand it.) that as of sometime last year (September maybe), if one starts the 9i track with no prior exams there is an in-class training requirement which must be met. However, if you already had your 8i, you could simply take the 9i upgrade with no classroom obligation. It's been a while since I read the note on this, but my recollection is that there was no restriction defined on doing it that way, meaning I think you could possibly still do the 8i track, then 9i upgrade and avoid the expensive classroom requirement. If it is not this way, someone please correct me as I've already steered one person wrong by encouraging him to complete the 8i track (he has taken the 8i Admin exam already). >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/25/03 12:29PM >>> Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). NOTICE BY ZALE CORPORATION This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Zale Corporation that is proprietary, confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unintended transmission does not constitute waiver of any privilege. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Darrell Landrum INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for
RE: 9i OCP Details
Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
