RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. QRM = I am experiencing interference. QRM? = Are you experiencing interference? Look across the table at your DBA-mates during your next meeting with management and say or ask QRM(?). Or blink your eyes. --.- .-. -- -Original Message- Yea but I never see a what's your QTH joe -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
-.-. --.- -.. . -.- WA9CAM/0 - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:58 AM I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. QRM = I am experiencing interference. QRM? = Are you experiencing interference? Look across the table at your DBA-mates during your next meeting with management and say or ask QRM(?). Or blink your eyes. --.- .-. -- -Original Message- Yea but I never see a what's your QTH joe -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: KENNETH JANUSZ INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Yea but I never see a what's your QTH joe Stephen Lee wrote: Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code Q abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning increase your power, it might mean Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer. I don't think you will ever see QRP used (reduce your power). -Original Message- With more people start to use wireless phones, PDAs, we will see more messages like this. -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting p: 614-791-9000 f: 614-791-9001 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: OraCop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Hmm, English really isn't my mother tongue, but I don't like such cryptic notations in English as well as in Latvian. It makes language more meagre and poor. Of course I also make mistakes but these are caused by my lack of knowledge and I can always accept them from another people. Gints Plivna -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gints Plivna INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Thanks Dennis, It isn't my first language either (I started learning English in the 5th grade in India). I have seen this language before, and like Rachel said, it is more of a philosophical trouble. I used similar language in precisely 3 (company internal) emails (waay back in 1993) before my manager called me in his office and explained that if I wish to be a better programmer/analyst/what-ever-that-I wish-to-be I need to be clear in my thoughts, when I speak and when I write. I still think it is a valuable advise. At-least I am not the only one ... Happy New Year Everyone ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance towards technology by trying to interchange a message format between totally different media. Even if the message in question was indeed in an acceptable format, the content clearly shows that no effort has been made to do any research on the subject matter. I have a deep affection and respect for this List and how there is such readily available help from it. So OraCop, I would say that you should try a more considered approach and you may be pleasantly surprised. -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Even though i strongly think that there is nothing wrong in writing U instead of you, respecting your feelings towards the list, and considering the fact that we must think above such small matters, I will be careful in future. Thanks. OraCop. --- Martin Kendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance towards technology by trying to interchange a message format between totally different media. Even if the message in question was indeed in an acceptable format, the content clearly shows that no effort has been made to do any research on the subject matter. I have a deep affection and respect for this List and how there is such readily available help from it. So OraCop, I would say that you should try a more considered approach and you may be pleasantly surprised. -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-pkcs7-signature name=smime.p7s __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
lol = laughing out loud lots of luck, lots of love, lots of laughs, little old lady. I will stop here now :) Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Ji INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Don't forget a lot of people uses PDA or wireless devices which has limitations on how many characters can be trasmitted. SMS for instance allows only 160 characters. Now why would someone write from such a device to ask an Oracle question is beyond me. Perhaps all the machines are down? :) With more people start to use wireless phones, PDAs, we will see more messages like this. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Richard Ji INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code Q abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning increase your power, it might mean Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer. I don't think you will ever see QRP used (reduce your power). -Original Message- With more people start to use wireless phones, PDAs, we will see more messages like this. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Lighten up Frances -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance towards technology by trying to interchange a message format between totally different media. Even if the message in question was indeed in an acceptable format, the content clearly shows that no effort has been made to do any research on the subject matter. I have a deep affection and respect for this List and how there is such readily available help from it. So OraCop, I would say that you should try a more considered approach and you may be pleasantly surprised. -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Kevin Lange INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best to ask a question in the clearest way possible... otherwise your emails may go directly to the delete folder. Ur cl. -Original Message- From: mkb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
It reminds me the text I have read few years ago, maybe even posted to this list: http://www.ahajokes.com/eng011.html BTW Personally I am on the philosophical side - use common abbreviations like BTW, ROTFL, etc but don't like the U, 4U, etc. But who knows what the future brings, especially with younger generation. I read few months ago that the Bible had been translated to use the abbreviations to make it more attractive to teenagers ;-) Witold -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
it can mean both. one of the reasons I don't love abbreviations! --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared]
Title: Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared] Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: Kevin Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Lighten up Frances -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*2
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Proper use of language never hurts. In fact, as Raj pointed out, if you use the abbreviations in work emails or memos, especially to people higher in the corporate structure, you are likely to lose image points. --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Too easy Rachel... Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A** Off Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/02/03 12:05PM then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Andert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego,
Re: Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared]
Actually Raj, I appreciate the fact that you brought this up. It needed to be said. mohammed --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lighten up Frances -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*2 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: mkb INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Well, it looks like Lisa nailed it. If isn't important enough to make clear and understandable, it isn't important enough for me to read. Jared Koivu, Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/02/2003 10:51 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best to ask a question in the clearest way possible... otherwise your emails may go directly to the delete folder. Ur cl. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra JamadagniMIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1 __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
If you need the answer, from someone who is unwilling to yield, you will have to yield yourself. This is the first thing I learnt on this list. There are real experts on this list, and if you want an answer from them, make sure that they don't direct the mail to trash even before reading it. The use of accepted abbreviations like IMHO, BTW etc. must have been slang or in-courteous or philosophically inacceptable some time back (who knows, I am not old enough) but now its a part of the Professional Vocabulary. It will take time, but pretty soon U, Ur, Plz etc will become a part of the language. Wait till that time. Regards Naveen -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Even though i strongly think that there is nothing wrong in writing U instead of you, respecting your feelings towards the list, and considering the fact that we must think above such small matters, I will be careful in future. Thanks. OraCop. --- Martin Kendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance towards technology by trying to interchange a message format between totally different media. Even if the message in question was indeed in an acceptable format, the content clearly shows that no effort has been made to do any research on the subject matter. I have a deep affection and respect for this List and how there is such readily available help from it. So OraCop, I would say that you should try a more considered approach and you may be pleasantly surprised. -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: 02 January 2003 15:30 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get irritated with people who won't post their names. It is hard to reply to an anonymous person. But then I recall that I previously worked for a company that wouldn't let me post to newsgroups. It would be easier if people would pick a nom de plume that was more human, like Joe Smith. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand the abbreviations. Am I the only one or is there anyone else who has trouble with such language? TIA Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-pkcs7-signature name=smime.p7s __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services
Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop Jared --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MetaLink is Oracle's support site. metalink.oracle.com No, I don't think your explanation is complicated, I just don't use OEM. I fired it up to take a look, but the backup portion requires the OEM repository to be setup, so I didn't learn anything. Yes, I *do* make backups, but use RMAN directly with Veritas NetBackup. Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 19:44, Sony kristanto wrote: Jared, Thanks Jared for your opinion, perhaps my explaination ain't quite right so it looks like complicated but I will try to give detail explaination. By the way what is MetaLink ? Rgrds, Sony -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Hmm A lot of folks on this liststudiously avoid OEM. I know I do, and I'm not going to be much help on this. Have you tried MetaLink? Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 17:11, Sony kristanto wrote: Yes, that's right Jared, by doing this we can make schedule when we want to backup our data onto hard disk or tape periodicaly (weekly or daily even hour), thanks for your response and wishing you can help me to solve it. -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Sony, What is an 'automatic' backup? Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise Manager' thingy? Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:23, Sony kristanto wrote: Hi Listers, I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I migrated from Oracle 8i. I try to use backup facility from Oracle 9i and I already follow the instructions how to activate the automatic backup but when I see the status on history I get an error comment 'Failed'. I've try again and again but the results are the same. Could someone out there tell me why it can't runs. For your note I use 'SYS' as my user. I will really appreciate your help. Rgrds, Sony -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
You must purchase the NBU for Oracle option to use RMAN with NBU. Nothing special from the RMAN side. The SBT_TAPE device is now routed to NBU. Not quite that simple in reality, as the backups now become part of the NBU environment, and you must setup NBU policies, schedules, etc. Jared On Tuesday 31 December 2002 09:33, OraCop wrote: Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop Jared --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MetaLink is Oracle's support site. metalink.oracle.com No, I don't think your explanation is complicated, I just don't use OEM. I fired it up to take a look, but the backup portion requires the OEM repository to be setup, so I didn't learn anything. Yes, I *do* make backups, but use RMAN directly with Veritas NetBackup. Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 19:44, Sony kristanto wrote: Jared, Thanks Jared for your opinion, perhaps my explaination ain't quite right so it looks like complicated but I will try to give detail explaination. By the way what is MetaLink ? Rgrds, Sony -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Hmm A lot of folks on this liststudiously avoid OEM. I know I do, and I'm not going to be much help on this. Have you tried MetaLink? Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 17:11, Sony kristanto wrote: Yes, that's right Jared, by doing this we can make schedule when we want to backup our data onto hard disk or tape periodicaly (weekly or daily even hour), thanks for your response and wishing you can help me to solve it. -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto Subject:Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Sony, What is an 'automatic' backup? Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise Manager' thingy? Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:23, Sony kristanto wrote: Hi Listers, I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I migrated from Oracle 8i. I try to use backup facility from Oracle 9i and I already follow the instructions how to activate the automatic backup but when I see the status on history I get an error comment 'Failed'. I've try again and again but the results are the same. Could someone out there tell me why it can't runs. For your note I use 'SYS' as my user. I will really appreciate your help. Rgrds, Sony -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
OraCop If you invest in the option, you might consider purchasing the book Oracle9i RMAN Backup Recovery by Robert Freeman It has a chapter on configuring VERITAS NetBackup. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You must purchase the NBU for Oracle option to use RMAN with NBU. Nothing special from the RMAN side. The SBT_TAPE device is now routed to NBU. Not quite that simple in reality, as the backups now become part of the NBU environment, and you must setup NBU policies, schedules, etc. Jared On Tuesday 31 December 2002 09:33, OraCop wrote: Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop Jared --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MetaLink is Oracle's support site. metalink.oracle.com No, I don't think your explanation is complicated, I just don't use OEM. I fired it up to take a look, but the backup portion requires the OEM repository to be setup, so I didn't learn anything. Yes, I *do* make backups, but use RMAN directly with Veritas NetBackup. Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 19:44, Sony kristanto wrote: Jared, Thanks Jared for your opinion, perhaps my explaination ain't quite right so it looks like complicated but I will try to give detail explaination. By the way what is MetaLink ? Rgrds, Sony -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Hmm A lot of folks on this liststudiously avoid OEM. I know I do, and I'm not going to be much help on this. Have you tried MetaLink? Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 17:11, Sony kristanto wrote: Yes, that's right Jared, by doing this we can make schedule when we want to backup our data onto hard disk or tape periodicaly (weekly or daily even hour), thanks for your response and wishing you can help me to solve it. -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto Subject:Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Sony, What is an 'automatic' backup? Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise Manager' thingy? Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:23, Sony kristanto wrote: Hi Listers, I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I migrated from Oracle 8i. I try to use backup facility from Oracle 9i and I already follow the instructions how to activate the automatic backup but when I see the status on history I get an error comment 'Failed'. I've try again and again but the results are the same. Could someone out there tell me why it can't runs. For your note I use 'SYS' as my user. I will really appreciate your help. Rgrds, Sony -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the
Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared
Veritas has a central tape system for open systems. You use the product to backup all your data into this tape system, not to disk or local tape. Veritas NetBackup has an agent that allows RMAN to open channels to this tape system and backup the database to it. We backup all our systems to it and then take the tapes out and move then to another location. Using this product save us the need to go to 100's of servers and remove the tape from each one. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 7:33 PM Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop Jared --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MetaLink is Oracle's support site. metalink.oracle.com No, I don't think your explanation is complicated, I just don't use OEM. I fired it up to take a look, but the backup portion requires the OEM repository to be setup, so I didn't learn anything. Yes, I *do* make backups, but use RMAN directly with Veritas NetBackup. Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 19:44, Sony kristanto wrote: Jared, Thanks Jared for your opinion, perhaps my explaination ain't quite right so it looks like complicated but I will try to give detail explaination. By the way what is MetaLink ? Rgrds, Sony -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 9:40 AM To: Sony kristanto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Hmm A lot of folks on this liststudiously avoid OEM. I know I do, and I'm not going to be much help on this. Have you tried MetaLink? Jared On Friday 27 December 2002 17:11, Sony kristanto wrote: Yes, that's right Jared, by doing this we can make schedule when we want to backup our data onto hard disk or tape periodicaly (weekly or daily even hour), thanks for your response and wishing you can help me to solve it. -Original Message- From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sony kristanto Subject: Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i Sony, What is an 'automatic' backup? Is this something supplied by that 'Oracle Enterprise Manager' thingy? Jared On Thursday 26 December 2002 17:23, Sony kristanto wrote: Hi Listers, I'm new on Oracle Database 9i after I migrated from Oracle 8i. I try to use backup facility from Oracle 9i and I already follow the instructions how to activate the automatic backup but when I see the status on history I get an error comment 'Failed'. I've try again and again but the results are the same. Could someone out there tell me why it can't runs. For your note I use 'SYS' as my user. I will really appreciate your help. Rgrds, Sony -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: OraCop INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City
