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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Odland, Brad

EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK!



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  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


Rich

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Rich, 
I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use.  Thanks for offering. 


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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)

Come on Brad, this is the guy's wife you're talking about !!

=)

Mike

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EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK!



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  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


Rich



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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread David Wagoner

Title: RE: Capacity Planning Methods?





Rich,


I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use.  Thanks for offering.



Best regards,


David B. Wagoner
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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Johnson, Michael

Title: Capacity Planning Methods?



Just 
lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive 
technical
seminar on methods DBAs can use for capacity 
planning.
 
Here 
is the link to his web-site.
 
http://www.orapub.com/cgi/genesis.cgi

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  Capacity Planning Methods?
  How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, 
  such as DB size? 
  Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm 
  interested in an efficient method to track DB growth in GB month over 
  month.
  Best regards, 
  David B. Wagoner Database Administrator

RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jared Still

Took it a few years ago.  Highly recommended.

Capacity planning is about a lot more than disk space,
which is probably the easiest part of it.

Jared

On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:24, Johnson, Michael wrote:
> Just lurking as usual, but Craig Schallahammer (sp) has a fairly extensive
> technical
> seminar on methods DBAs can use for capacity planning.
>  
> Here is the link to his web-site.
>  
> http://www.orapub.com/cgi/genesis.cgi
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:24 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, such as DB size? 
> 
> Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm interested in an efficient
> method to track DB growth in GB month over month.
> 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> David B. Wagoner 
> Database Administrator 
> 

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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

David
I analyze the tables each week primarily to populate NUM_ROWS in
USER_TABLES. I use ANALYZE TABLE because that works better in 8.1.6. Then I
save the data to a separate table along with the date I did it. The primary
rows are schema_name (if there is more than one schema of interest), date,
num_rows, chained_rows, blocks. Whatever suits your purposes. Then I can go
back and see the pattern of growth over time. 



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, such as DB size? 

Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm interested in an efficient
method to track DB growth in GB month over month.


Best regards, 

David B. Wagoner 
Database Administrator 

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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Goulet, Dick

Hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  And if that were not true I sure could not 
explain some of my friends wives.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK!



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  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


Rich

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Rich, 
I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use.  Thanks for offering. 


Best regards, 
David B. Wagoner 
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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jesse, Rich

  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


Rich

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Rich, 
I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use.  Thanks for offering. 


Best regards, 
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Re: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Jared . Still


In a nutshell:

Collect stats from dbms_free_space once a week, save them in a table.

Once a month, load the stats into another database for calculation.

Run them through a Perl filter to create a summary table by tablespace.

Use Oracle's Linear Regression functions to make a prediction  of future
usage at the end of the year, middle of next year, and end of next year.

LR is also used to predict the current usage based on past space.  The
difference between the actual and the prediction is used to adjust future
predictions.

It ain't perfect, but it's fairly accurate.

Jared







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How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, such as DB size? 
Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm interested in an efficient method to track DB growth in GB month over month.

Best regards, 
David B. Wagoner 
Database Administrator

Re: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha

Jared, David, Listers,

Another very useful method that I have used in the
past is the Ratio Modeling Technique. It is a
low-precision method, but it is better than
no-precision. Craig Shallahamer et al., wrote a paper
on it within the Oracle context. I am sure there are
many more out there, but I wanted to mention this,
just in case you have not seen it. If you do a Google
search on the keyword "Ratio Modeling Technique", you
should get it.

Cheers,

Gaja
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a nutshell:
> 
> Collect stats from dbms_free_space once a week, save
> them in a table.
> 
> Once a month, load the stats into another database
> for calculation.
> 
> Run them through a Perl filter to create a summary
> table by tablespace.
> 
> Use Oracle's Linear Regression functions to make a
> prediction  of future
> usage at the end of the year, middle of next year,
> and end of next year.
> 
> LR is also used to predict the current usage based
> on past space.  The
> difference between the actual and the prediction is
> used to adjust future
> predictions.
> 
> It ain't perfect, but it's fairly accurate.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David Wagoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject:Capacity Planning Methods?
> 
> 
> How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics,
> such as DB size? 
> Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm
> interested in an efficient 
> method to track DB growth in GB month over month.
> 
> Best regards, 
> David B. Wagoner 
> Database Administrator 
> 
> 

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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Goulet, Dick

For anyone interested.  I took one of those old scripts, modified it into a data 
warehouse sort of implementation & then publish it every day & at month end as an 
internal web page.  There's a copy of today's output at 
http://vdac2.vicr.com/space_new.html if your interested.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


Rich

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Rich, 
I'd love to see the procedure and table that you use.  Thanks for offering. 


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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-12 Thread Jesse, Rich

OK, I'll post it.  Salt to taste or toss it in the garbage.  Note that this
is just collecting data and doesn't make any recommendations or such.
Comments and critiques welcome, except from Mladen...  (running for cover)
;)

And, of course, standard disclaimers apply!


Rich

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--


CREATE TABLE TS_ACTIVITY
(
  TABLESPACE_NAME  VARCHAR2(30),
  FREE_SPACE   NUMBER,
  USED_SPACE   NUMBER,
  MAX_FREE_SPACE   NUMBER,
  TIMESTAMPDATE
)
TABLESPACE USERS
/

COMMENT ON TABLE TS_ACTIVITY IS 'Tablespace Activity: Records changes in
physical attributes of all permanent, dictionary-managed tablespaces.'
/

CREATE INDEX TS_ACTIVITY_TS_NAME ON TS_ACTIVITY
(TABLESPACE_NAME)
TABLESPACE USERS
/


CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE TS_CHECK IS
--
-- Explicit SELECT access must be granted to this schema on the following
SYS views:
--
--  DBA_TABLESPACES
--  DBA_DATA_FILES
--  DBA_FREE_SPACE
--
-- Modification History
-- -
-- 12/19/2001   REJ Created.

v_tablespace_name   ts_activity.tablespace_name%TYPE;
v_free_spacets_activity.free_space%TYPE;
v_used_spacets_activity.used_space%TYPE;
v_max_free_spacets_activity.max_free_space%TYPE;
v_rowcount  NUMBER;

CURSOR C_TS IS
SELECT d.tablespace_name, f.bytes "FREE_SPACE",
NVL(a.bytes - NVL(f.bytes, 0), 0) "USED_SPACE",
f.max_free_space
FROM sys.dba_tablespaces d,
(SELECT tablespace_name, SUM(bytes) bytes
FROM dba_data_files
GROUP BY tablespace_name) a,
(SELECT tablespace_name, SUM(bytes) bytes, MAX(bytes)
max_free_space
FROM dba_free_space
GROUP BY tablespace_name) f
WHERE d.tablespace_name = a.tablespace_name(+) AND
d.tablespace_name = f.tablespace_name(+)
AND d.contents = 'PERMANENT';

BEGIN

FOR tsrec IN C_TS LOOP

SELECT COUNT(*)
INTO v_rowcount
FROM ts_activity
WHERE tablespace_name = tsrec.tablespace_name;

IF v_rowcount > 0 THEN
SELECT q.tablespace_name, q.free_space, q.used_space,
q.max_free_space
INTO v_tablespace_name, v_free_space, v_used_space,
v_max_free_space
FROM
ts_activity q,
(SELECT MAX(timestamp) timestamp
FROM ts_activity
WHERE tablespace_name = tsrec.tablespace_name) ts
WHERE q.tablespace_name = tsrec.tablespace_name
AND q.timestamp = ts.timestamp;
END IF;

IF tsrec.free_space != v_free_space
OR tsrec.used_space != v_used_space
OR tsrec.max_free_space != v_max_free_space
OR v_rowcount = 0 THEN
INSERT INTO ts_activity
(tablespace_name, free_space, used_space,
max_free_space, timestamp)
VALUES (tsrec.tablespace_name, tsrec.free_space,
tsrec.used_space, tsrec.max_free_space, SYSDATE);
END IF;
END LOOP;

END TS_CHECK;
/


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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-11 Thread Jesse, Rich

I also grab freespace from dba_free_space, dump it into a table, and watch
the deltas there, too.  It helps for watching less predictable object
growth, like perhaps with an index.  Although my procedure is
tablespace-oriented, so it won't give detail as to exactly what's doing all
the growing.

If you'd like, I could post the smallish 68-line procedure and the table
create that I use to do this.  There are perhaps better ways of doin g this,
but it works for me in 8.1.7 on dictionary managed tablespaces.


Rich

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> -Original Message-
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:49 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Capacity Planning Methods?
> 
> 
> David
> I analyze the tables each week primarily to populate NUM_ROWS in
> USER_TABLES. I use ANALYZE TABLE because that works better in 
> 8.1.6. Then I
> save the data to a separate table along with the date I did 
> it. The primary
> rows are schema_name (if there is more than one schema of 
> interest), date,
> num_rows, chained_rows, blocks. Whatever suits your purposes. 
> Then I can go
> back and see the pattern of growth over time. 
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Williams 
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA 
> Lifetouch, Inc. 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> 
> How do you guys collect capacity planning metrics, such as DB size? 
> 
> Do you use StatsPack, Oracle OEM, others?  I'm interested in 
> an efficient
> method to track DB growth in GB month over month.
> 
> 
> Best regards, 
> 
> David B. Wagoner 
> Database Administrator 
> 
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