RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-15 Thread Fink, Dan

I almost used that one.

The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names:
Niemiec
Velpuri
Testa
Kolk
Vaidyanatha

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael?


--- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff...
 Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman
 Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams
 
 Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking
 her
 to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
 hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :)
 :P
 :)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
 strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
 buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I
 was
 just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example,
 you
 can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
 paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version.
 I'll
 be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
 Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the
 Secret
 Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
 any purpose.
Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on
 this
 list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in
 2000
 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep
 and
 de-stress on their way home
 
 (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)
 
 John
 
 Reply from Rachel:
 ==
 Geek! G
 
 The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already --
 e-books.
 PDA
 
 sized computer that you can download a book into.
 
 Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the
 train
 on my
 
 way home tonight!
 
 Rachel
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Using your commute time
 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800
 
   I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
   read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them
 
   working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.
 
 Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
 Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
 this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do
 
 conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
 others, energize, etc.
 
   I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams,
 tables
 etc.
 
 Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
 Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in
 capacity
 
 and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will
 be) 
 the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
 cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to
 use a
 
 hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled
 PDA 
 and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which
 can 
 be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have
 your
 
 personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I
 wouldn't 
 rule out something like this being made available within the next 
 decade...
 
 So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here -
 there 
 are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and
 societal
 
 aspects. More of that later!
 
 Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
 John
  WINMAIL.DAT 
 
  
  
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-15 Thread Weaver, Walt

_Oracle 8i Backup And Recovery_, a Rendezvous With Rama

--Walt Weaver

(Not exactly a namesake, but the best I could do)

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I almost used that one.

The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names:
Niemiec
Velpuri
Testa
Kolk
Vaidyanatha

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael?


--- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff...
 Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman
 Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams
 
 Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking
 her
 to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
 hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :)
 :P
 :)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
 strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
 buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I
 was
 just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example,
 you
 can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
 paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version.
 I'll
 be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
 Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the
 Secret
 Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
 any purpose.
Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on
 this
 list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in
 2000
 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep
 and
 de-stress on their way home
 
 (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)
 
 John
 
 Reply from Rachel:
 ==
 Geek! G
 
 The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already --
 e-books.
 PDA
 
 sized computer that you can download a book into.
 
 Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the
 train
 on my
 
 way home tonight!
 
 Rachel
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Using your commute time
 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800
 
   I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
   read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them
 
   working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.
 
 Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
 Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
 this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do
 
 conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
 others, energize, etc.
 
   I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams,
 tables
 etc.
 
 Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
 Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in
 capacity
 
 and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will
 be) 
 the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
 cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to
 use a
 
 hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled
 PDA 
 and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which
 can 
 be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have
 your
 
 personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I
 wouldn't 
 rule out something like this being made available within the next 
 decade...
 
 So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here -
 there 
 are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and
 societal
 
 aspects. More of that later!
 
 Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
 John
  WINMAIL.DAT 
 
  
  
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-15 Thread Johnston, Tim

And don't forget Still!

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I almost used that one.

The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names:
Niemiec
Velpuri
Testa
Kolk
Vaidyanatha

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael?


--- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff...
 Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman
 Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams
 
 Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking
 her
 to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
 hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :)
 :P
 :)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
 strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
 buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I
 was
 just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example,
 you
 can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
 paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version.
 I'll
 be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
 Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the
 Secret
 Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
 any purpose.
Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on
 this
 list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in
 2000
 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep
 and
 de-stress on their way home
 
 (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)
 
 John
 
 Reply from Rachel:
 ==
 Geek! G
 
 The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already --
 e-books.
 PDA
 
 sized computer that you can download a book into.
 
 Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the
 train
 on my
 
 way home tonight!
 
 Rachel
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Using your commute time
 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800
 
   I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
   read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them
 
   working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.
 
 Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
 Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
 this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do
 
 conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
 others, energize, etc.
 
   I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams,
 tables
 etc.
 
 Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
 Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in
 capacity
 
 and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will
 be) 
 the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
 cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to
 use a
 
 hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled
 PDA 
 and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which
 can 
 be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have
 your
 
 personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I
 wouldn't 
 rule out something like this being made available within the next 
 decade...
 
 So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here -
 there 
 are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and
 societal
 
 aspects. More of that later!
 
 Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
 John
  WINMAIL.DAT 
 
  
  
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-15 Thread Connor McDonald

A near-miss with Niemiec


 --- Weaver, Walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
_Oracle 8i Backup And Recovery_, a Rendezvous With
 Rama
 
 --Walt Weaver
 
 (Not exactly a namesake, but the best I could do)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:54 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I almost used that one.
 
 The real problem is finding celebrities with the
 following last names:
 Niemiec
 Velpuri
 Testa
 Kolk
 Vaidyanatha
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael?
 
 
 --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We could put together a whole Namesakes series
 about Oracle stuff...
  Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by
 Robert Freeman
  Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by
 Steve Adams
  
  Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Dennis,
  
  I also have a driving commute, and I was also
 thinking about asking
  her
  to voice record her book.  But I think I would get
 into an accident
  hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a
 database...:P :)
  :P
  :)
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
 My problem is that I am driving during my
 commute. You get the
  strangest looks when the next driver glances over
 and sees your face
  buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might
 become prophetic. I
  was
  just asking if there was a way to get a talking
 e-book. For example,
  you
  can download just about any book whose copyright
 has expired, copy,
  paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an
 audio version.
  I'll
  be long dead before the copyrights on any books
 about Oracle expire.
  Most e-book publishers protect their material as
 zealously as the
  Secret
  Service protects the president. Which often
 renders them unusable for
  any purpose.
 Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the
 noted authors on
  this
  list to read their books just like the fiction
 superstars do.
  
  Dennis Williams
  DBA
  Lifetouch, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Dennis,
  
  See below is an email conversation that I had with
 the 'Goddess' in
  2000
  on the same subject. Those were the days when
 Goddesses had to sleep
  and
  de-stress on their way home
  
  (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter
 magic wand)
  
  John
  
  Reply from Rachel:
  ==
  Geek! G
  
  The concept you are thinking of exists in some
 form already --
  e-books.
  PDA
  
  sized computer that you can download a book into.
  
  Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap
 I took on the
  train
  on my
  
  way home tonight!
  
  Rachel
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Using your commute time
  Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800
  
I use the time to talk to the people I know on
 the train, or to 
read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their
 laptops, I see them
  
working with  them. Or they read the
 newspapers, or sleep.
  
  Granted, but the difference as against a
 push-technology such as a 
  Radio station (which many people listen to while
 commuting) is that 
  this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional
 availability. However, I do
  
  conceed to the need to
 decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
  others, energize, etc.
  
I think technical books need visual
 interfaces. For diagrams,
  tables
  etc.
  
  Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or
 sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
  Computers have drastically reduced in size while
 increasing in
  capacity
  
  and capability. However, the restraining factor
 has been (and will
  be) 
  the size of the Input/Output area (i.e.
 Screen/Keyboard size) which 
  cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone
 discovers how to
  use a
  
  hologram to perform the same input/output? These
 hologram enabled
  PDA 
  and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size
 of a plastic 
  'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a
 virtual screen which
  can 
  be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You
 could probably have
  your
  
  personal (private) view using special glasses if
 required. I
  wouldn't 
  rule out something like this being made available
 within the next 
  decade...
  
  So far, I have only talked about the tech side of
 things here -
  there 
  are many dangers and negative side effects to the
 personal and
  societal
  
  aspects. More of that later!
  
  Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
  John
   WINMAIL.DAT 
  
   
   
  -- 
  Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
 http://www.orafaq.com
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Dennis,

I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her
to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P
:)

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
   My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was
just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you
can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll
be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret
Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
any purpose.
   Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this
list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dennis,

See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000
on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and
de-stress on their way home

(Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)

John

Reply from Rachel:
==
Geek! G

The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books.
PDA

sized computer that you can download a book into.

Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train
on my

way home tonight!

Rachel


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Using your commute time
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800

  I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
  read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them 
  working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.

Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do 
conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
others, energize, etc.

  I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables
etc.

Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity

and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) 
the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a

hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA 
and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can 
be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your

personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't 
rule out something like this being made available within the next 
decade...

So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there 
are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal

aspects. More of that later!

Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
John
 WINMAIL.DAT 

 
 
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-14 Thread Fink, Dan

We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff...
Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman
Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams

Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dennis,

I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her
to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P
:)

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
   My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was
just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you
can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll
be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret
Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
any purpose.
   Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this
list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dennis,

See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000
on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and
de-stress on their way home

(Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)

John

Reply from Rachel:
==
Geek! G

The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books.
PDA

sized computer that you can download a book into.

Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train
on my

way home tonight!

Rachel


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Using your commute time
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800

  I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
  read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them 
  working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.

Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do 
conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
others, energize, etc.

  I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables
etc.

Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity

and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) 
the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a

hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA 
and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can 
be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your

personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't 
rule out something like this being made available within the next 
decade...

So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there 
are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal

aspects. More of that later!

Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
John
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RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT

2002-10-14 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael?


--- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff...
 Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman
 Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams
 
 Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea...
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking
 her
 to voice record her book.  But I think I would get into an accident
 hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :)
 :P
 :)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! 
My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the
 strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face
 buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I
 was
 just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example,
 you
 can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy,
 paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version.
 I'll
 be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire.
 Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the
 Secret
 Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for
 any purpose.
Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on
 this
 list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do.
 
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dennis,
 
 See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in
 2000
 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep
 and
 de-stress on their way home
 
 (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand)
 
 John
 
 Reply from Rachel:
 ==
 Geek! G
 
 The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already --
 e-books.
 PDA
 
 sized computer that you can download a book into.
 
 Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the
 train
 on my
 
 way home tonight!
 
 Rachel
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Using your commute time
 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800
 
   I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to 
   read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them
 
   working with  them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep.
 
 Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a 
 Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that 
 this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do
 
 conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with 
 others, energize, etc.
 
   I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams,
 tables
 etc.
 
 Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - 
 Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in
 capacity
 
 and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will
 be) 
 the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which 
 cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to
 use a
 
 hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled
 PDA 
 and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 
 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which
 can 
 be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have
 your
 
 personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I
 wouldn't 
 rule out something like this being made available within the next 
 decade...
 
 So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here -
 there 
 are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and
 societal
 
 aspects. More of that later!
 
 Slightly crazy today, aren't I?
 John
  WINMAIL.DAT 
 
  
  
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