RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
I almost used that one. The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names: Niemiec Velpuri Testa Kolk Vaidyanatha -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael? --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
_Oracle 8i Backup And Recovery_, a Rendezvous With Rama --Walt Weaver (Not exactly a namesake, but the best I could do) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I almost used that one. The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names: Niemiec Velpuri Testa Kolk Vaidyanatha -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael? --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
And don't forget Still! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I almost used that one. The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names: Niemiec Velpuri Testa Kolk Vaidyanatha -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael? --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru')
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
A near-miss with Niemiec --- Weaver, Walt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: _Oracle 8i Backup And Recovery_, a Rendezvous With Rama --Walt Weaver (Not exactly a namesake, but the best I could do) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I almost used that one. The real problem is finding celebrities with the following last names: Niemiec Velpuri Testa Kolk Vaidyanatha -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael? --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com --
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT
RE: CodeNotes for Oracle9i... Destress on the way home!...OT
Hoagy Carmichael reads DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael? --- Fink, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could put together a whole Namesakes series about Oracle stuff... Morgan Freeman reads Oracle 9i New Features by Robert Freeman Patch Adams reads Oracle8i Internal Services by Steve Adams Apologies to Spinal Tap for the distorted idea... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, I also have a driving commute, and I was also thinking about asking her to voice record her book. But I think I would get into an accident hearing her sexy voice describing how to recover a database...:P :) :P :) -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L John - Wow! An impressive memory tour de force! My problem is that I am driving during my commute. You get the strangest looks when the next driver glances over and sees your face buried in a PDA. Actually that last phrase might become prophetic. I was just asking if there was a way to get a talking e-book. For example, you can download just about any book whose copyright has expired, copy, paste into my text-to-voice, and there you have an audio version. I'll be long dead before the copyrights on any books about Oracle expire. Most e-book publishers protect their material as zealously as the Secret Service protects the president. Which often renders them unusable for any purpose. Personally, I liked the suggestion to ask the noted authors on this list to read their books just like the fiction superstars do. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dennis, See below is an email conversation that I had with the 'Goddess' in 2000 on the same subject. Those were the days when Goddesses had to sleep and de-stress on their way home (Ducking as the Goddess takes out her six-shooter magic wand) John Reply from Rachel: == Geek! G The concept you are thinking of exists in some form already -- e-books. PDA sized computer that you can download a book into. Destressing is important -- but more so is the nap I took on the train on my way home tonight! Rachel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Using your commute time Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:41:26 +0800 I use the time to talk to the people I know on the train, or to read. Fiction or otherwise. Others have their laptops, I see them working with them. Or they read the newspapers, or sleep. Granted, but the difference as against a push-technology such as a Radio station (which many people listen to while commuting) is that this is a pull-technology, i.e. optional availability. However, I do conceed to the need to decompress/destress/plan/communicate with others, energize, etc. I think technical books need visual interfaces. For diagrams, tables etc. Which brings me to my next brain-wave (or sizzled-brain-wave :) - Computers have drastically reduced in size while increasing in capacity and capability. However, the restraining factor has been (and will be) the size of the Input/Output area (i.e. Screen/Keyboard size) which cannot reduce below a threshold. What if someone discovers how to use a hologram to perform the same input/output? These hologram enabled PDA and Web based 'appliances' can shrink to the size of a plastic 'smart-card'! Just project everything onto a virtual screen which can be virtually touched and pointed to, etc!! You could probably have your personal (private) view using special glasses if required. I wouldn't rule out something like this being made available within the next decade... So far, I have only talked about the tech side of things here - there are many dangers and negative side effects to the personal and societal aspects. More of that later! Slightly crazy today, aren't I? John WINMAIL.DAT -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051