RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Boy you hit a sour note just then. I worked in a small eastern Conn town for a tv repair shop years ago. Xerox approached the boss and talked him into becomming the "repair rep" for the area. He has offered stock for pennies. I continued to work on the tvs with the thick screens (fishbowls) Weighed a ton. I would have retired years ago if I only jumped on the band wagon when I was young and foolish. Now I'm just foolish. I got my start with AT&T Long Lines. I used to wire the telegraph cross connections in the Hartford, Conn office. +130 volts and - 130 volts. Fun stuff. From there I progressed to the telephone private line board, interstate test board, and finally radio transmittion department. When the world of electronic switching started was the beginning of computers for me. I was part of the crew that maintained the 4A electromechanical switching machine. And yes we also used PDP 11 machines to record the automatic billing for your toll calls. We had to trouble shoot failures of the centeral computer down to the failing pack or connection and then replace the failed part. 1 K of RAM was about 16x16 inches 4 in thick. doughnut memory that you could change the polarity by the current through the wires. Machine language and a variety of assembly was the language of the day. I was introduced to Oracle when I moved to GA 12 years ago to do analysis work the the National cable protection program. the rest is history, subject matter expert, supervisor, sys admin, dba, traveling man. retired but still working. ROR mª¿ªm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 03:55PM >>> yeah, that guy is probably kicking himsef. but probably not as bad as the boneheads a Xerox! KK No offense if someone on this list currently works for, has worked for or knows someone that works or worked for Xerox, you're not boneheads:) -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25" floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game > and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been > in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... > 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? > 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. > CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. > 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out > to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a "lid" which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. > The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have > it) > 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. > 5) Who wrote QDOS? > > sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Cert
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Heck, I retired from AT&T where I had more time on the job than my boss had on the face of the earth. RedHeaded Hooters that couldn't spell PC. ROR m-¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 10:51AM >>> And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out to Word? 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have it) 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? 5) Who wrote QDOS? sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25" floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game > and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been > in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... > 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? > 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. > CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. > 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out > to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a "lid" which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. > The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have > it) > 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. > 5) Who wrote QDOS? > > sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
dunno about 1) but 2) is Lisa >From: "Arich Henneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:16:37 -0800 > >The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game >and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been >in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 > >1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? >2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? > >CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. >2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out >to Word? > >3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? > >The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have >it) >4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? >5) Who wrote QDOS? > >sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> >On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter >crayon: > >->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big >deal with >->IBM? Can't remember. >-> >->Regards, >->Patrice Boivin >->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) >-> >-> -Original Message- >-> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] >-> >-> >AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick >and >Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. > >CP/M was the other OS in contention. > >-- >Bill Thater ORACLE DBA >Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! > >IBM: Into Building Money > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Thater, William > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Arich Henneman > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
the number of licks top get to the center of a tootsiepop. joe >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 10:15AM >>>I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3.For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial.I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982.I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home.> >> >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about> >computers? What language was it based on?> >--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? ROR mô¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
> The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game > and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been > in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... > 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? > 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. > CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. > 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out > to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a "lid" which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. > The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have > it) > 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. > 5) Who wrote QDOS? > > sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! IBM: Into Building Money -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Arich Henneman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Got it all Michael . some day I have to go read the thread from begining to end -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25" floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game > and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been > in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... > 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? > 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. > CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. > 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out > to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a "lid" which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. > The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have > it) > 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. > 5) Who wrote QDOS? > > sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Lange INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
yeah, that guy is probably kicking himsef. but probably not as bad as the boneheads a Xerox! KK No offense if someone on this list currently works for, has worked for or knows someone that works or worked for Xerox, you're not boneheads:) -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope somebody is capturing this thread! This is a history of computing as seen by the people in the trenches! Now... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column screen and dual 5.25" floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen and dual floppies. If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose so they signed and the rest is history. --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:41 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > The cartridge that came with the 2600 was COMBAT. It had a tank game > and a biplane game. If they added another cartridge, it must have been > in the later years. And the whole package cost $150 Now I remember... > 1) Who started Atari, what else did he start? > 2) What Graphical computer preceeded the Mac? Lisa, thats easy. I remember seeing a demo of it. I was totally amazed. Everyone was drooling over it. It was big and expensive, and then the Mac came out and they were selling like crazy. Everyone had one except for me. > CP/M Control Program for Microcomputers - It was the first big OS. > 2.5 What was the first Big Time Word processor that eventually lost out > to Word? WordPerfect. Not sure they lost out. I believe it was a mix of they didnt push there Windows version like MS, and then of course, the MS marketing machine. They were another company that had 90%+ of the market and thought they were the king, untoucable and arrogant then along came MS with Word. Its been the same story over and over with every company that has gone up against MS. And Palm/Handspring is next... > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? Oh I cant think of the name. But the metal case was sort of a greyish blue, and it had a "lid" which was the keyboard. And it had a little monochrome monitor, and I believe it was 5 1/4 floppy drive. > The first MAC (128K, 400K floppy) had no handle, I had one(still have > it) > 4) What was "Special" about the inside of the Mac case? It has the signatures of all the creators. > 5) Who wrote QDOS? > > sigh, I agree, the good ol' daze >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 06:57AM >>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Boivin, Patrice J scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Was CP/M the OS that Bill Gates bought just before making his big deal with ->IBM? Can't remember. -> ->Regards, ->Patrice Boivin ->Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -> -> -Original Message- -> CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.] -> -> AFAIK, no. it was an OS from a small local company called QDOS [Quick and Dirty Operating System] if i'm not suffering from too much bit rot. CP/M was the other OS in contention. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribi
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
ATC now that had to be kewl. Isnt it still the same from ages ago, they talked about ATC software/hardware has its own Y2K issue(not in the year 2000 but some time else in the future) joe >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:39PM >>>Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zeroexperience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenanceprogramming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I workedblue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined theUSAF and they told me I was a computer programmer...Scott ShaferSan Antonio, TX"Page, Bruce" wrote:> > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us.> > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's.> > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a> > frickin clue> > what any of you are talking about:)_Do You Yahoo!?Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Ivan, if you get the opportunity to attend an IOUG(my preferred one) or an openworld event, there is usually a gettogther of the people from the list, so you can place faces/w email addys :) check with the Goddess(AKA rachel), she's usually at both :) joe >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 12:35PM >>> I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Tucked away in my safe I have 6 tapes for the Atari. Each tape is a different game and you had to use a tape player to load them rather than the plugin cartridge. I tried one of the games and the visuals were great. The tape version had more info than was on the chip. As far as the answers to the questions. I was not a dedicated nerd at the time. I was more interested in audio and video (tv repairman); ROR mª¿ªm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/01/01 05:38PM >>> I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in >the field. > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's >cover? >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, >vol >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came >with >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I >was >in grade 11 in 1981. > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training >companies will survive. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mô¿ôm > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ron Rogers > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > >ROR mô¿ôm > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
how else do I get to see my friends and get a free "vacation"? At this point, the only way I really learn is by going to conferences and talking to people. so I do... and for me, learning IS a vacation -- I get to use my brain. >From: "JOE TESTA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:50:51 -0800 > >Ivan, if you get the opportunity to attend an IOUG(my preferred one) or an >openworld event, there is usually a gettogther of the people from the list, >so you can place faces/w email addys :) > >check with the Goddess(AKA rachel), she's usually at both :) > >joe > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 12:35PM >>> > >I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel >like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong >place :( . >In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until >about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those >questions. >You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the >technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is >invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk >that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately >never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. >I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how >diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many >parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would >have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would >have anything in common with you all? >I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, >timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone >enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all >together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two >words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd >feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in >Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. >All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR >YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and >respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I go back to "here I come to save the day!" :) >From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:13:52 -0800 > >"Fractured Fairy Tales" was a PART of the "Rocky and Bullwinkle Show", as >well as >"There's no need to fear, UnderDog is Here!" - the Underdog Show. >"Nor plane nor bird nor even fog, it's just little old me, Underdog". > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:04 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mô¿ôm > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ron Rogers > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access
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It look likes there are more of us older folks than one might think. And I loved Bullwinkle, Davy Crockett and Red Skelton and Danny Kaye movies. My husband is into old TV so we go to sleep watching TVLand, especially when The Honeymooners is on. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:14 PM I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mô¿ôm > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ron Rogers > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >
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Wasn't it Antony Hopkins?Jyoti>From: "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 07:17:04 -0800 > >With Sean Connery, Antonio Banderas & Katherine Zeta-Jones? > >It was fun, but pretty predictable. Antonio & Katherine together was fun to >watch. The sword fight was cute. > >"Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie?" > > >Tom Mercadante >Oracle Certified Professional > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:16 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known >as Zorro! > >Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? > >Ruth >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM > > >Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). > >Terry > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye >movies. > > > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > > >ROR mô¿ôm > > > > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ruth Gramolini > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Mercadante, Thomas F > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jyoti N INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
How about the black and white "Superman ,Man of Steel" shows where Superman wasn't that super after all. Bullets would bounce off him but he would duck when you threw the gun at him. Is that the beginnings of duck-duck-goose? ROR mª¿ªm -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Actually, Davy Crockett was dead before the invention of TV. But he was played by Fess Parker in the TV movies with the same name. Having said that, I don't beleive that Fess Parker, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever together, but I have been know to be wrong before. Terry "Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the > same movie > together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I > didn't know > that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
>-My mom would not let us watch that night. It must be because of those demonic hip gyrations!! What would your mom think of Rob Zombie?? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L My mom would not let us watch that night. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Some of us remember Elvis on Ed Sullivan.Ruth -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
My mom would not let us watch that night. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Some of us remember Elvis on Ed Sullivan.Ruth -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
But of course. Not bad. Not the original, but not bad. I thought the plot was better than a lot of the "remakes" being made. They at least had it as though some time had passed and the "original" Zorro was now an old man training a younger man to take his place. Most remakes just use different actors as the original characters. And for an old fan like me, it kinda grates. Terry Ruth Gramolini wrote: > Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known > as Zorro! > > Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? > > Ruth > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM > > Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). > > Terry > > Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye > movies. > > > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > > >ROR mô¿ôm > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Ruth Gramolini > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
yup -- I like Anthony Hopkins in anything (okay, not as Hannibal Lecter, I wouldn't like ANYONE as Hannibal Lecter) Banderas was okay. >From: "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:15:40 -0800 > >Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known >as Zorro! > >Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? > >Ruth >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM > > >Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). > >Terry > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye >movies. > > > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > > >ROR mô¿ôm > > > > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ruth Gramolini > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
But even us older ladies have a different point of view on Sean and Antonio. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:17 AM With Sean Connery, Antonio Banderas & Katherine Zeta-Jones? It was fun, but pretty predictable. Antonio & Katherine together was fun to watch. The sword fight was cute. "Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie?" Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known as Zorro! Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > >ROR mô¿ôm > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
You're right - it was Anthony. As I was typing Sean Connery, it didn't feel right! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:17 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yup -- I like Anthony Hopkins in anything (okay, not as Hannibal Lecter, I wouldn't like ANYONE as Hannibal Lecter) Banderas was okay. >From: "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:15:40 -0800 > >Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known >as Zorro! > >Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? > >Ruth >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM > > >Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). > >Terry > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye >movies. > > > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > > >ROR mo?om > > > > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ruth Gramolini > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Ah yes, and then theres Catherine Zeta jones. Just to prove to the world that not every girl who comes out of the UK looks like the bloody Spice Girls -Original Message- Sent: 03 August 2001 16:17 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yup -- I like Anthony Hopkins in anything (okay, not as Hannibal Lecter, Iw ouldn't like ANYONE as Hannibal Lecter) Banderas was okay. >From: "Ruth Gramolini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:15:40 -0800 > >Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known >as Zorro! > >Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? > >Ruth >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM > > >Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). > >Terry > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye >movies. > > > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > > >ROR mô¿ôm > > > > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ruth Gramolini > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Robertson Lee - lerobe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I taught a high school class to program Turbo Pascal running on CP/M. Now that was a program. There was one kid in the class who knew way more about this stuff than I did. They all got As. > > If I remember correctly, Microsoft bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Works > for around $50k so they could have an O/S for IBM's first PC. I cannot > remember the name of the guy who owned CP/M, but they would not sign IBM's > non-disclosure agreement, and sent IBM to Gates. MS had nothing to lose > so they signed and the rest is history. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yosi Greenfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
You mean that they didn't have PCs, internet, MS Windows and Night Show with Ed Sullivan back there at Alamo? What in the world has prompted Santa Anna to attack, then? > -Original Message- > From: Terry Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:36 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > > > Actually, Davy Crockett was dead before the invention of TV. > But he was > played by Fess Parker in the TV movies with the same name. > Having said that, > I don't beleive that Fess Parker, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye > ever together, > but I have been know to be wrong before. > > Terry > > "Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > > Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye > ever been in the > > same movie > > together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be > inseparable. I > > didn't know > > that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton? > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Terry Ball > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
> > > 3) What company made the first "Portable" (luggable) computers? > It was either Kaypro or Osborne. The Ozzy had a little tiny 40-column > screen and dual 5.25" floppies. The Kaypro had an 80-column screen > and dual floppies. > I had a compaq 'portable' that was the size of an old, big, not-yet invented 486, but had a monitor embedded in the box. 15 years later, my brother tried to use this computer for something real, and I had to explain to him why I couldn't shlep around this thing, and why it wouldn't do that much for him altogether. He probably still has it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yosi Greenfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
It's so much nicer for kids and college students alike today. Think of how awesome the computers are that they are getting(and were talking pc's nto servers). I love it now, I could build a sweet AMD machine for so cheap it's disgusting and sad, but pleasantly wonderful at the same time. I know I know, "shut up young punk!":) - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:13 PM I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mo?om > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ron Rogers > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
"Fractured Fairy Tales" was a PART of the "Rocky and Bullwinkle Show", as well as "There's no need to fear, UnderDog is Here!" - the Underdog Show. "Nor plane nor bird nor even fog, it's just little old me, Underdog". -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? ROR mô¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
With Sean Connery, Antonio Banderas & Katherine Zeta-Jones? It was fun, but pretty predictable. Antonio & Katherine together was fun to watch. The sword fight was cute. "Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie?" Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known as Zorro! Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > >ROR mô¿ôm > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Night Gallery! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L now we are talking, honeymooners, benny hill, outer limits, and my favorite twilight zone. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/01 09:00AM >>> It look likes there are more of us older folks than one might think. And I loved Bullwinkle, Davy Crockett and Red Skelton and Danny Kaye movies. My husband is into old TV so we go to sleep watching TVLand, especially when The Honeymooners is on. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:14 PM I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mô¿ôm > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Can someone tell me how to find the support matrix on Metalink for Oracle 8, all versions? -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known as Zorro! Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > >ROR mô¿ôm > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Smith, Ron L. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Some of us remember Elvis on Ed Sullivan.Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:46 AM >-That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >-Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >-ROR mô¿ôm And don't forget about watching the Beatles and the Rolling Stones make their debuts on the Ed Sullivan show. You really had to "dig the threads" they were wearing. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? ROR mô¿ôm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Servic
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
Out of the night, when the full moon is bright, rides a horse man is known as Zorro! Did you happen to catch the recent Zorro movie? Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:35 AM Or Zorro, or My Friend Flika (westerns with a flair). Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. > > >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > > > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy > >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? > >ROR mô¿ôm > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ruth Gramolini INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
now we are talking, honeymooners, benny hill, outer limits, and my favorite twilight zone. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/01 09:00AM >>> It look likes there are more of us older folks than one might think. And I loved Bullwinkle, Davy Crockett and Red Skelton and Danny Kaye movies. My husband is into old TV so we go to sleep watching TVLand, especially when The Honeymooners is on. Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:14 PM I wasn't into westerns... but Red Skelton? oh yeah... and Danny Kaye movies. >From: "Ron Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 11:04:15 -0800 > >That ran the same time a "bullwinkle". How about Fess Parker as Davy >Crocket. Or Red Skelton's show with Freddy the freeloader? >ROR mô¿ôm > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/01 02:11PM >>> >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Ron Rogers > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I don't know if any of these guys played in the same movie or not, but I can guarantee you they all are within six degrees of Kevin Bacon... http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/ i.e.: The Oracle says: Red Skelton has a Bacon number of 2. Red Skelton was in Fuller Brush Girl, The (1950) with Eddie Albert Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon __ Jim Hawkins Oracle Database Administrator Data Management Center of Expertise Pharmacia Corporation 800 North Lindbergh Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri 63167 (314) 694-4417 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actually, Davy Crockett was dead before the invention of TV. But he was played by Fess Parker in the TV movies with the same name. Having said that, I don't beleive that Fess Parker, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever together, but I have been know to be wrong before. Terry "Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the > same movie > together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I > didn't know > that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
I watched a lot of those shows as a kid, what about the Thunderbirds, back on free to air TV here in the mornings or what about the Banana Splits. My old boss and I used to talk about them and my wife just looks at us strange, ten years is a long time it seems. Peter At 07:50 PM 4/08/2001, you wrote: >I don't know if any of these guys played in the same movie or not, but I can >guarantee you they all are within six degrees of Kevin Bacon... > >http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/ > >i.e.: > >The Oracle says: Red Skelton has a Bacon number of 2. > >Red Skelton was in Fuller Brush Girl, The (1950) with Eddie Albert >Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon > >__ >Jim Hawkins >Oracle Database Administrator >Data Management Center of Expertise > >Pharmacia Corporation >800 North Lindbergh Blvd. >St. Louis, Missouri 63167 >(314) 694-4417 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:36 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Actually, Davy Crockett was dead before the invention of TV. But he was >played by Fess Parker in the TV movies with the same name. Having said >that, >I don't beleive that Fess Parker, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever together, >but I have been know to be wrong before. > >Terry > >"Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > > Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the > > same movie > > together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I > > didn't know > > that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter McLarty INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT
h&r puffnstuff joe Peter McLarty wrote: > > I watched a lot of those shows as a kid, what about the Thunderbirds, back > on free to air TV here in the mornings or what about the Banana Splits. My > old boss and I used to talk about them and my wife just looks at us > strange, ten years is a long time it seems. > > Peter > > At 07:50 PM 4/08/2001, you wrote: > >I don't know if any of these guys played in the same movie or not, but I can > >guarantee you they all are within six degrees of Kevin Bacon... > > > >http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/ > > > >i.e.: > > > >The Oracle says: Red Skelton has a Bacon number of 2. > > > >Red Skelton was in Fuller Brush Girl, The (1950) with Eddie Albert > >Eddie Albert was in Big Picture, The (1989) with Kevin Bacon > > > >__ > >Jim Hawkins > >Oracle Database Administrator > >Data Management Center of Expertise > > > >Pharmacia Corporation > >800 North Lindbergh Blvd. > >St. Louis, Missouri 63167 > >(314) 694-4417 > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:36 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >Actually, Davy Crockett was dead before the invention of TV. But he was > >played by Fess Parker in the TV movies with the same name. Having said > >that, > >I don't beleive that Fess Parker, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever together, > >but I have been know to be wrong before. > > > >Terry > > > >"Gogala, Mladen" wrote: > > > > > Have Bullwinkle,Davy Crockett, Red Skelton and Danny Kaye ever been in the > > > same movie > > > together? What about Rocky, he and Bullwinkle used to be inseparable. I > > > didn't know > > > that Bullwinkle was moonlighting with Danny Kaye and Skelton? > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Peter McLarty > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing) -- Joe Testa Performing Remote DBA Services, need some backup DBA support? For Sale: Oracle-dba.com domain, its not going cheap but feel free to ask :) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
You trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson? ;0) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L baby! :) >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:12:42 -0800 > >And I was... > >6 > >:0) > >g > > > >-Original Message- >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:39 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Guy Hammond > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Guy Hammond INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
nah, your wife would get upset. now, if you tempted me with more Friday recipes, that would be a different story :) >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 06:40:26 -0800 > >You trying to seduce me, Mrs Robinson? ;0) > >-Original Message- >Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 8:01 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >baby! :) > > > >From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT >staff > >Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 10:12:42 -0800 > > > >And I was... > > > >6 > > > >:0) > > > >g > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:39 PM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Guy Hammond > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Guy Hammond > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Charlie Chaplin, easy one. > Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me. > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? 0 > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. I loved it when they came out with those precise clippers. > How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? Never had one, sorry. > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for 10 floppies. I thought it was a great deal!! > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. > What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? Asteroids, I think. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > > Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. > I loved it when > they came out with those precise clippers. ***I just used a plain hole punch > > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for > 10 floppies. I > thought it was a great deal!! > *** It was pink > > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > > Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. *** I don't remember what IBM had them, but my old generic 486 has one. > > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? *** No, I don't believe it did. > > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What > cartridges came > with > > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > Asteroids, I think. I never got an Atari, but I would guess pong. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in >the field. > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's >cover? >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, >vol >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came >with >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I >was >in grade 11 in 1981. > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training >companies will survive. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
We need to admit the rest of the world considers us geeks. Even in IT world dba's are probably one of the geekeest (is it a new word I invented?), not too many people like us. Well, may be C++ programmers would come close in geekeness (new word again?) to us. My friend tried to hook me up with a guy whose profession had nothing to do with IT. He was concerned about my occupation... I need to let him read some of the e-mails on this list so he may know we're normal people and we know how to laugh. Should we also let duhvelopers in to prove to them we're OK? No, we won't bother... Lyuda -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:52 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? Charlie Chaplin, easy one. > Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? I believe I did one through a Hercules graphics card, but dont quote me. > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? 0 > How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? Flip the floppy and cut a notch. I actually used scissors. I loved it when they came out with those precise clippers. > How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? Never had one, sorry. > What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? Was it grey? Was that 3Ms? I remember paying 50 bucks for 10 floppies. I thought it was a great deal!! > What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? Sorry, I went with all the generic PCs. > What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came with > the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? Asteroids, I think. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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> e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: Heathkit! The S-100 bus! 8.5" floppies. I remember drooling over those catalogs. But I always thought that the Timex Sinclair was a toy. Timex? Makes a computer? > How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? Paper tape! > Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's cover? > (I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, vol > 1... heh heh I wonder what happened). I don't know this, but I do have a BYTE magazine from 1984. Don't remember exactly why I kept it, but now it's a classic! 10MB Winchester hard drives are $5,000. Ohio Scientific is the next big thing! Now...what did I have for breakfast? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Boivin, Patrice J wrote: > e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit DX40 xmitter and an AR88 receiver. Math major in college. Earned an A in slide rule. Jenny Jacobson www.oracle-dba-consulting.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jenny Jacobson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Jenny Jacobson scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: -> I don't know the answer to all those questions. However I was a ham -> radio operator - K0VIH calling CQ CQ CQ - with a Heathkit DX40 xmitter -> and an AR88 receiver. Math major in college. Earned an A in slide rule. ah yes, the humble slip stick. i had a collection, until my first wife burned them. well the ones that would burn of melt that is. she just warped the hell out of the brass ones.;-) but i still use one, i'm faster on that then a calculator. however the one i have is falling apart and finding a replacement is difficult.;-) so if any of you have one that you no longer want, contact me off list and i can give it a good home for a reasonable price.;-) and yes i am a geek.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. - Brook -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in high school - my older son was. I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make "telegraphs" out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a battery, a few nails, a little wire, and a strip of metal cut from a tin can to practice Morse code (I don't remember any of it now). I had to pass a slide rule test in college but in those days so did everyone else at Harvey Mudd. When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made a 5 1/4 floppy drive that used a format with 100 tracks per inch (they actually had more data on a single sided disk than IBM had on their double sided disk)? What is the difference between hard sectored and soft sectored floppies? What did the above mentioned drive use? Some other questions that come to mind that are not so tied into a specific machine are: What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead? What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? Or how about something from the days of main frame tapes that has come back to haunt me lately. What is an IBM standard label tape? What about it might help in identifying what is on the tape and where it came from? Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. > > > >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about > >computers? What language was it based on? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and rearrange the cards. Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L staff I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer most of those questions. and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in >the field. > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's >cover? >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, >vol >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came >with >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I >was >in grade 11 in 1981. > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL Learning >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training >companies will survive. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil ->was after us. -> ->I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to ->make putting it back together simpler. -> ->When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay ->in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old ->days! i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.;-) i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for bookmarks. -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop! -Original Message- Brian Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. For those not in the US, it's from an old TV commercial. I started playing on Commodore-64's in high school in 1982. I've still got some of those Verbatim 5.25 disks in the closet at home. > > > >What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about > >computers? What language was it based on? > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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Ain't that the truth. I was in charge of maintaining them (I use the term very loosely) when I was in college and those drives were the flakiest things. Used to drive me nuts. The joys of running word star on CP/M... and thinking I was in heaven when I moved to wordperfect. Still think wordperfect was the best DOS wordprocessor on the market. --- "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and > CP/M. > > Nasty little thing. > I built a billing system for a telephone company on > them using Dbase II. > We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own > and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 > because we would sometimes go through a lot of them > before we could get a good restore. We swore they > had a built in "fry disk at random" command. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: > (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet > access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: A. Bardeen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Peabody. Professor Peabody. A long-eared, white dog. Who taught "History" to Sherman. Terry Rachel Carmichael wrote: > Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy > Sherman? > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Terry Ball INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> And the DEC rainbow shipped with both DOS and CP/M. Nasty little thing. I built a billing system for a telephone company on them using Dbase II. We had to keep 10 sets of backs. We each had our own and then on was left with the system. We kept 10 because we would sometimes go through a lot of them before we could get a good restore. We swore they had a built in "fry disk at random" command. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... --Scott Shafer, High Priest San Antonio, TX Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I > don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff but > not all. > > I either: > > 1)never had a memory for anything > 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life > 3)am not and was not a nerd > 4)all of the above > > I think I'll lurk for awhile _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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According to Mr Owl, the answer is 3. Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > one (ker-runch!) > > >From: "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:27:16 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Scott Shafer scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... -> ->--Scott Shafer, High Priest -> San Antonio, TX hey, i thought that was my job!;-) and i think i've been in this damn business t long. should have took that job as a javalin catcher.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Mid 70's? I never used a computer before 1990. I went from zero experience to real-time, hybrid unix on a mainframe doing maintenance programming for an Air Traffic Control system. Prior to that, I worked blue-collar (come from a long line of ironworkers) until I joined the USAF and they told me I was a computer programmer... Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX "Page, Bruce" wrote: > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch >tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk >about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the >mid 70's. > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
We have a bowl full of them here. I will get back to you. I could maybe get the whole staff into it and average it out so that we have a more accurate answer. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
one (ker-runch!) >From: "Page, Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:27:16 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: ->Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy ->Sherman? Ok true story time. i went to work as a forms developer for Xerox Business Systems back in 93 and the first day i got into work i was setting up my star workstation and my PC when the project manager went into the cube next to mine and started giving the programmer there a REAL hard time. after he left i heard "moose and squrril, moose and squrill, is always moose and squrril!" in a perfect russian accent! i feel off my chair, and the guy came to see if i was alright. turns out he was from bellaruss(sp?) and learned english from watching cartoons. from then on, if meetings got stupid, we'd look at each other and go "moose and squrril". people left us alone.;-) -- Bill Thater ORACLE DBA Telergy,Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's got to come from the heart if you want it to work! If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. - Robert X. Cringely -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>-Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his >>-boy Sherman? > >On black and white TV!! :( and was the screen round and did the tv have legs built in?
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
2314 Disk drives are responsible for me being in the IT racket. The problem with the 2314 was that it was removable, but it could not be removed until it came to a complete stop. Otherwise you might damage the heads or the disk itself. The disk drive had a glass window so that you could see if something was mounted but the disk had no markings, so it was impossible to tell just by looking whether the disk was spinning or not. The only safe policy was to turn the drive off and wait five minutes to be certain that the disk had spun down. You then manually opened the drawer, attached a carrying handle to the drive, and very gingerly removed it. My immediate predecessor as a computer operator did not follow this policy. He yanked the drive out while it was still spinning, gyroscoped around the computer room and banged it into a printer. He then decided to remount it in order to make sure that he hadn't damaged the drive. The damaged drive trashed the heads. This genius then decided that he couldn't tell whether the drive or the heads were bad so he remounted the drive on another spindle, just in case it was the first spindle's heads that were bad. So he trashed the second spindle's heads. The machine had 4 spindles but it need two of them just to hold the operating system. So, they could boot the machine, but they couldn't mount any data or do any work. They fired him, had an opening, and hired me. You can bet that I was glad when the 3330 disk drive came in. It would not open the door to let you dismount the pack until the drive had spotted spinning. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
The correct answer is 1 if it is a Cherry Toosie Pop. Kathy -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! Dave -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I remember doing APL on an IBM5100, an "AT" with a 4 inch B&W screen built on the side, and a switch to boot into APL or BASIC. The first thing they had to do was blow it to the top of the link with 64k of memory and TWO tape drives. I could do in two hours what it took an engineer 2 days to do. In fact I visited the company 10 years later and they wanted to know if I was willing to do some more work on the box. This was engineering, those monster storage takes for oil, gas, etc. It was great for APL... I can still remember API-650K was an algebraic formula that took 7 pages to document, and then the answer went back into the first step until it was less than 1/10th of an inch difference. But being matrix and vector oriented, you could to the whole thing all at the same time. For what we were doing it was pretty neat. I also remember IBM-360 model 25 and 40... 2311, 2314 disk drives... Maks. (Dating himself...) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mercadante, > Thomas F > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:41 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > > > "What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other > languages use? What was used instead?" > > A Programming Language. Not sure of the other questions, but I remember > learning the greek alphabet when I was using APL. Very powerful > vector-oriented language. You could write one-line programs to accept a > list of numbers, and spit out the average, mean, stand. dev., max, min and > about anything else. Pretty cool, except that picking up someone elses > program to debug was a bitch! > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Michael Kline INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Ah, but lack of knowledge seems to indicate that you have been worshipping a false god(dess). so I will leave before being found out and suitably punished :) >From: Scott Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:01:05 -0800 > >The Cult of the Goddess does not take divine abandonment lightly... > >--Scott Shafer, High Priest > San Antonio, TX > > >Rachel Carmichael wrote: > > > > that settles it, I'm quietly packing up my desk and leaving the list. I > > don't belong here. I vaguely remember working with some of this stuff >but > > not all. > > > > I either: > > > > 1)never had a memory for anything > > 2)was sleepwalking through most of my life > > 3)am not and was not a nerd > > 4)all of the above > > > > I think I'll lurk for awhile > >_ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Scott Shafer > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a 1200k modem?) Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming language and APL in the actuarial department. Linda -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Seley, Linda INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
young whippersnapper! quiet down and let us old fogies reminisce :) >From: "Kevin Kostyszyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:39 -0800 > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Hahahah, that's a good idea, that would very funny!! -Original Message- Michael (TEM) Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hmmm...I had one of those old Compaq's, too. I was a consultant at the time, and my partner had an Osborne. We'd be going from San Diego to Savannah via DFW, and we'd have to strap those two monsters to a set of luggage wheels and haul a** through the airport to make the connection. You could have fun with that, y'know. You could gut it and install a SBC (Single-board computer) card into the backplane with a 40G disk and you'd have a nice modern machine - well except for the monitor. But I can imagine bringing that into a roomfull of laptops and watching their users smirk until I fired it up and the lights dimmed... --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Vergara, Michael (TEM) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Famous? OY! Ivan -- we usually manage one list get-together at the conferences. I'll gladly swap stories over beer with you. I work at a multi-media music company with an online presence (that's a quote from marketing). The average age here is about 23. I *think* the CEO is older than me, but if he is, it's close. My "'hood" is NYC, born and raised in Queens, second-generation Russian-American Jew (although according to an Anthropology teacher I had in college, "Jewish" is an ethnic background in and of itself) >From: Norwood Bradly A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:16:32 -0800 > >Thanks, Ivan. >Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. >as a first generation Mexican-American. >The great equalizers are self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. >When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs >on >your books. > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > >I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel >like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong >place :( . > >In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until >about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those >questions. > >You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the >technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is >invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk >that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately >never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. > >I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how >diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many >parts >of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever >thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have >anything >in common with you all? > >I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, >timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone >enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all >together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two >words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd >feel >just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or >chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. > >All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR >YALL! >(translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect >you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
>-Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his >-boy Sherman? On black and white TV!! :( -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Mr. Peabody and Sherman? Of course. I was into "Creepy Crawlers" and "Vac-U-Form" back then but I'll bet you were more into "Incredible Edibles" or "Fun Flowers". Cheers -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). * * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Edward INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Oh, I remember reminiscing !
I was all set to become a vetinary surgeon when I met a Commodore Pet,
running rat trap
and was hooked. That was 25 years ago.
(sounds of sobbing and tears hitting the keyboard)
Steve Parker
Technical Consultant
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:
->we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the
devil
->was after us.
->
->I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to
->make putting it back together simpler.
->
->When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and
stay
->in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old
->days!
i was one of those geeks who could put object decks back in order by hand.;
-)
i still have several boxes of card decks. the kids like them for
bookmarks.
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RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Yes! Mr. Peabody, Boris and Natasha... who could forget them... -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Confidential This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kathy Duret INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
heck, I did production work over a 300 baud modem -- the one where you had to dial in and then place the handset into the cups :) and I thought it was the speediest thing ever >From: "Seley, Linda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:28:15 -0800 > >One of those Compaqs was the first portable I took home from work 7 years >ago! It sat in my basement until 3 years ago when I lugged it back - we >were moving and I didn't want to be responsible for it any more! (Gosh, a >1200k modem?) > >Same company that is *still* using PL/1 as it's mainframe programming >language and APL in the actuarial department. > >Linda > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:42 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and >such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is >a >compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a >little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the >bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a >kid >and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, >but that's about it:) >kk > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > >Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use >scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the >older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My >computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Seley, Linda > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
my last company still used pdp-11s -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked much better than my ugly metallic Kaypro. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of punch cards and such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and still have is a compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" drives and a little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about 40 pounds, the bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games on it as a kid and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a good foot rest, but that's about it:) kk -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and having to use scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. Or even the older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as them. My computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > frickin clue > what any of you are talking about:) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kevin Kostyszyn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Norwood Bradly A INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this e-mail is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We accept no liability for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: April Wells INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the "Wayback Machine" "Rachel Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L mail.com>cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Now your getting to the good stuff! Ruth - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:39 PM > And the "Wayback Machine" > > > > "Rachel > Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > mail.com>cc: > Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure > root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff > com > > > 08/02/2001 > 02:11 PM > Please > respond to > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy > Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messa
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
> Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels. What are you talking about? There's 2 of them right there in the name. Jared ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: om Subject: Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff 08/02/01 08:27 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L In 1981 my oldest child was 2 and I was working on a very primitive RDBMS at Boeing. As a pre-teen I was making a crystal radio and wondering why anyone would pay for batteries or electricity to power the radio when you could get all the energy that you needed from the broadcast itself. As a summer job in college I coded Computer Aided Instruction programs written in Coursewriter II that ran on an IBM 70x (don't remember the last digit) which had a magnetic core memory. Output came back on IBM electric typewriters that had been Rube Goldberged up as personal printers. My 2nd IT job was as a computer operator on an IBM 360. The boot sequence was toggled in using switches on the front of the computer. The IBM 370 had a 5 1/4" disk hard-wired that contained the boot sequence (circa 1977). did a survey to find the most used micro computer in the business environment. Then they went out and built a whole suite of integrated business products for that computer. There was a spreadsheet (BoeingCalc), a word processor, a mail program,a TTY terminal emulator, etc. Cost millions to develop. Unfortunately, it was developed for the Terak, not the IBM PC. The Terak was a rack-mounted 8-bit microprocessor whose main role was to control 6-axis milling machines. Not much demand for an integrated business suite there. Hard sectored floppies had their tracks physically defined. If I remember right there were a series of small holes punched between each track so that the head could align itself with the track. Soft sectored floppies are what we use today, where the media is continuous over the whole surface and the track (and the inter track gap) are defined magnetically. I do remember the 8" floppies. They made great frisbies. APL is "A Programming Language." If I remember right it didn't allow GOTOs. It also had its own keyboard with its own character set. Completely unintelligible to the uninitiated. Was the turtle language based on LISP? 800 BPI or 1600 BPI tapes? What's the blocking factor? I forget what the IEUtility was that I used for reading those standard (and non-standard) labels, but once you figured out the block size and the blocking factor you could dump the tape to an EPSDIC flat file and figure out the record layout. I saved many a boss's butt doing that in my early years. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists --
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
What was it Dreezel...drazzle...drozzle...drone Time for this one to come home! --- === Michael P. Vergara | Don't worry about the world ending today; Oracle DBA | it's already tomorrow in Australia. Guidant Corporation | - Charles Schulz -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And the "Wayback Machine" "Rachel Carmichael" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L mail.com>cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure root@fatcity.nerdiness in potential IT staff com 08/02/2001 02:11 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy Sherman? >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks >does >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be rem
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nah, those were girl things. punch ball outside, roller skates with two sets of wheels and a key to tighten the front clasp, climbing monkey bars indoors it was books. Always books. I can't remember not reading >From: "Sherman, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:56:47 -0800 > >Mr. Peabody and Sherman? >Of course. > >I was into "Creepy Crawlers" and "Vac-U-Form" back then but I'll bet you >were more into "Incredible Edibles" or "Fun Flowers". > >Cheers > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 2:12 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Okay, who remembers "Fractured Fairy Tales" and the Professor and his boy >Sherman? > > > >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:41:38 -0800 > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > >Very nice!! I saw that all the time on my Saturdays watching Rocky and > >Bullwinkel, Tom and Jerry and my favorite, Bugs Bunny!! > > > >Dave > > > >-Original Message- > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:27 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > >And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks > >does > >it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > > > > > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Page, Bruce > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Farnsworth, Dave > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >* * * * * Freedom of Information Act Notice * * * * * >The information in this email is subject to the record protection mandated >by 5 United States Code 552(b)(4) and relevant judicial opinions. >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Sherman, Edward > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858)
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
With RSX and KED? May be some good, old VT100 and VT220? Oh, that makes me nostalgic! > -Original Message- > From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:35 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in > potential IT staff > > > my last company still used pdp-11s > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:28 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > It was a magical box to a middle-aged me as well and looked > much better than > my ugly metallic Kaypro. > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:42 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > yeah, my father still try's to impress me with stories of > punch cards and > such. It's pretty funny. The oldest computer I know of and > still have is a > compaq "portable" computer. It has the old 5 1/4" "floppy" > drives and a > little tiny screen. It's basically a suitcase, weighs about > 40 pounds, the > bottom is the keyboard. Kinda cool, I remember playing games > on it as a kid > and thinking it was the most amazing thing. Now it makes a > good foot rest, > but that's about it:) > kk > > -Original Message- > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > And just think about the PC being an advanced system for some of us. > > Wait until we again start talking about using paper tapes and > having to use > scotch tape to put them back together to run them through. > Or even the > older guys that talk about switch boards. I am not as old as > them. My > computer days just go back to the mid 70's. > > > > I love this stuff(being a nerd wannabe), but I don't have a > > frickin clue > > what any of you are talking about:) > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Page, Bruce > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Norwood Bradly A > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is strictly > confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; > it may also be legally privileged and/or price sensitive. > Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, use or copying of > the information by anyone other than the intended recipient > is prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this > message in error, please notify the sender immediately by > return e-mail. > > Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken every reasonable precaution > to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept > for viru
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Title: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff Thanks, Ivan. Most of us are probably from some 'hood. Mine was the barrio of East L.A. as a first generation Mexican-American. The great equalizers are self-education, self-esteem and self-motivation. When you are famous like Rachel or Steve Adams, we expect free autographs on your books. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:36 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff I have to agree with Kevin, this thread is great. However it makes me feel like I really am in the wrong profession, at the wrong time in the wrong place :( . In 1981 I was 5 years old and I've never really touched a computer until about 3 years ago, let alone know any of the answers to any of those questions. You guys are great! I have learned so much from this list. Not only the technical stuff but learning about the IT and dba culture from you all is invaluable! I went to school for psych, so some of this old school talk that us young ones would hear from college cis professors I unfortunately never received, much less the knowledge of that curriculum. I am speechless when I step back and look at this list and realize how diverse this list really is. I mean we have list members from so many parts of the world and from so many different walks of life. Who would have ever thought that this young Puerto Rican punk from the 'hood would have anything in common with you all? I can see us all now at a bar after an oracle event, me in my baggy jeans, timberland boots, Iceberg shirt, etc. enjoying beers with you all. Everyone enjoying and sharing a common bond (dba, oracle) that brings us all together. Most of you all's peers wouldn't even look our way or have two words for me and my friends in our natural environment. But I think I'd feel just as comfortable around you all as I do at a block party in Bed-Stuy or chilling with some of my friends in Liberty City, Miami. All I can say the list is: I GIVE YOU ALL PROPS AND I GOT MAD LOVE FOR YALL! (translation: I hold you all in high esteem and greatly admire and respect you all). Thanks for everything. Ivan
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
In 1981 my oldest child was 2 and I was working on a very primitive RDBMS at Boeing. As a pre-teen I was making a crystal radio and wondering why anyone would pay for batteries or electricity to power the radio when you could get all the energy that you needed from the broadcast itself. As a summer job in college I coded Computer Aided Instruction programs written in Coursewriter II that ran on an IBM 70x (don't remember the last digit) which had a magnetic core memory. Output came back on IBM electric typewriters that had been Rube Goldberged up as personal printers. My 2nd IT job was as a computer operator on an IBM 360. The boot sequence was toggled in using switches on the front of the computer. The IBM 370 had a 5 1/4" disk hard-wired that contained the boot sequence (circa 1977). The business OS for micro computers before DOS was CPM. Sort of like UNIX in that it was sparse on the vowels. When I was at Boeing around 1981 they did a survey to find the most used micro computer in the business environment. Then they went out and built a whole suite of integrated business products for that computer. There was a spreadsheet (BoeingCalc), a word processor, a mail program,a TTY terminal emulator, etc. Cost millions to develop. Unfortunately, it was developed for the Terak, not the IBM PC. The Terak was a rack-mounted 8-bit microprocessor whose main role was to control 6-axis milling machines. Not much demand for an integrated business suite there. Hard sectored floppies had their tracks physically defined. If I remember right there were a series of small holes punched between each track so that the head could align itself with the track. Soft sectored floppies are what we use today, where the media is continuous over the whole surface and the track (and the inter track gap) are defined magnetically. I do remember the 8" floppies. They made great frisbies. APL is "A Programming Language." If I remember right it didn't allow GOTOs. It also had its own keyboard with its own character set. Completely unintelligible to the uninitiated. Was the turtle language based on LISP? 800 BPI or 1600 BPI tapes? What's the blocking factor? I forget what the IEUtility was that I used for reading those standard (and non-standard) labels, but once you figured out the block size and the blocking factor you could dump the tape to an EPSDIC flat file and figure out the record layout. I saved many a boss's butt doing that in my early years. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
"What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead?" A Programming Language. Not sure of the other questions, but I remember learning the greek alphabet when I was using APL. Very powerful vector-oriented language. You could write one-line programs to accept a list of numbers, and spit out the average, mean, stand. dev., max, min and about anything else. Pretty cool, except that picking up someone elses program to debug was a bitch! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think this is very dependent on one's age and maybe geographic location. Okay, I'll start off by showing my age. In 1981 I wasn't in high school - my older son was. I wasn't a ham but back, I think as a pre-teen, we used to make "telegraphs" out of a piece of scrap wood, a flashlight bulb, a battery, a few nails, a little wire, and a strip of metal cut from a tin can to practice Morse code (I don't remember any of it now). I had to pass a slide rule test in college but in those days so did everyone else at Harvey Mudd. When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer that I got in 1981 required a boot disk. In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made a 5 1/4 floppy drive that used a format with 100 tracks per inch (they actually had more data on a single sided disk than IBM had on their double sided disk)? What is the difference between hard sectored and soft sectored floppies? What did the above mentioned drive use? Some other questions that come to mind that are not so tied into a specific machine are: What does APL stand for? What was very bad practice in APL that other languages use? What was used instead? What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about computers? What language was it based on? Or how about something from the days of main frame tapes that has come back to haunt me lately. What is an IBM standard label tape? What about it might help in identifying what is on the tape and where it came from? Pat -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Pat Hildebrand INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
Has anyone worked on IBM's punch card sorter? And IBM-1401 Mainframe? Talk about un-breakable stuff. The 1401 cabinet had tumbled down 10 steps during its move to the new computer room (we did not have lifts/elevators in the building then). But came to life without any problems when it was hooked up to 1402 and 1403 and those tape units (that you see in the Movies). Was working fine till I left the company in 1983. The sorter was also working great !! - Kirti > -Original Message- > From: Farnsworth, Dave [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:26 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT > staff > > 1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of > weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I > had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch > card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and > rearrange the cards. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > staff > > > I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer > most of those questions. > > and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > > >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > > > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in > >the field. > > > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > > > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? > >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? > >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? > >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > > > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > > > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > > > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > > > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > > > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's > >cover? > >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, > >vol > >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > > > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came > >with > >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I > >was > >in grade 11 in 1981. > > > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL > Learning > >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but > >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training > >companies will survive. > > > >Regards, > >Patrice Boivin > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > >-- > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
I thik LOGO was based on LISP.
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001,Pat Hildebrand scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->When I saw the question about boot disks I figured that the answer
->would be very dependent on the computer because I know there were
->computers at that time that didn't use disks. However, the computer
->that I got in 1981 required a boot disk.
i started programming on IBM 1440s and 360/20s. on the 20 you had to dial
in
the IPL code to get it to read the first card.
->
->In fact that computer brings to mind a few other questions from that
->time. Before the introduction of the IBM PC, what was considered the
->operating system for business micro computers? What manufacturer made
CP/M [or is it CPM i've seen it written both ways.]
->What is the language that uses a turtle for teaching children about
->computers? What language was it based on?
LOGO but i don't remember what it's biased on. bit rot.;-)
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RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
we called that 52 card pickup -- take deck, throw in air, run like the devil was after us. I learned EARLY to draw intricate designs on the top of the deck so as to make putting it back together simpler. When projects were due, I'd cut every class but the computer ones, and stay in the computer center until midnight,when they closed. Oh the good old days! >From: "Farnsworth, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff >Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 02:26:10 -0800 > >1981, I was a junior in college. Oh what I would give to have a couple of >weeks like I had then. I think I skipped as many classes as I went to. I >had my first computer class the year before, there was nothing like punch >card technology. Just for fun we would get into someones stack and >rearrange the cards. > >Dave > >-Original Message- >Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 4:39 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >staff > > >I guess I can no longer call myself an IT Professional as I cannot answer >most of those questions. > >and in 1981 I was divorcing my first husband > > >From: "Boivin, Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff > >Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:23:09 -0800 > > > >Perhaps, to be an IT Professional, one should have a bit of background in > >the field. > > > >e.g. one should know what Heathkit was (not that A+ stuff) , and the > >Sinclair, not to mention a few other things: > > > >What famous character was used to first advertise the IBM PC? > >Was it possible to connect two screens to the original IBM PC? How? > >How many boot disks did computers require before 1982? > >How would you convert a 1-sided 5 ¼" diskette into a 2-sided one? > >How did the Commodore Pet make use of hard disk drives? Floppy drives? > > > >What colour were the Verbatim 5 ¼" diskette pockets? > > > >What IBM PS/2 model was listed as having a 2.88M diskette drive? > >What version of Windows did OS/2 not support? Why not? > > > >Did the first macintosh computer come with a handle? > > > >What is an MWave Windsurfer card? > > > >Which company could be argued started the certification fad in IT? > > > >Bonus points: What figurines appear on PC Magazine Vol 1., Issue 1's > >cover? > >(I notice PC Magazine has gone back to the thickness it had for issue 1, > >vol > >1... heh heh I wonder what happened). > > > >Extremely important entertainment bonus question: What cartridges came > >with > >the Atari 2600 game system upon initial purchase? > > > >But I am dating myself. Most of these have to do with PCs, forgive me I > >was > >in grade 11 in 1981. > > > >Here another training school closed last year, GP - used to be SHL >Learning > >Technologies, but they slowly died. The instructors were good, but > >management... well GP no longer exists. Hopefully the good training > >companies will survive. > > > >Regards, > >Patrice Boivin > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > >-- > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > >-- > >Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To R
RE: OT -- suggestions to ensure nerdiness in potential IT staff
And the question (still yet to be properly answered) is "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?" > I remember a turtle, BUT he spoke to Mr. Owl, and the answer was 3. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Page, Bruce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
