RE: Oracle 10i features
I'm not sure I'd go that far... Old habits (and prejudices) die hard... :-) -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Look for it to improve dramatically. I might even try to use it. Jared On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote: Jared, just a thought : ** WHY ** Oracle experts charged in OEM developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet simple , just to the point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain simple. Regards, Chiappa *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote: Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Johnston, Tim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
ah, but the people working on it have changed. Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha John Beresniewicz James Morle to name just a few --- Johnston, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure I'd go that far... Old habits (and prejudices) die hard... :-) -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Look for it to improve dramatically. I might even try to use it. Jared On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote: Jared, just a thought : ** WHY ** Oracle experts charged in OEM developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet simple , just to the point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain simple. Regards, Chiappa *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote: Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Johnston, Tim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
I am confident that we will see some good things out of OEM in the future Knowing who is working on it now, and knowing what they have done in the past, I've got a high degree of confidence ...AND expectation!! :-)) Robert Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP Oracle Database Architect CSX Midtier Database Administration Author of several Oracle books you can find on Amazon.com! Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm not sure I'd go that far... Old habits (and prejudices) die hard... :-) -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Look for it to improve dramatically. I might even try to use it. Jared On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote: Jared, just a thought : ** WHY ** Oracle experts charged in OEM developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet simple , just to the point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain simple. Regards, Chiappa *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote: Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Johnston, Tim INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Freeman, Robert INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like
Re: Oracle 10i features
Look for it to improve dramatically. I might even try to use it. Jared On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote: Jared, just a thought : ** WHY ** Oracle experts charged in OEM developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet simple , just to the point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain simple. Regards, Chiappa *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote: Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
Jared, just a thought : ** WHY ** Oracle experts charged in OEM developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet simple , just to the point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain simple. Regards, Chiappa *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote: Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: J. Laurindo Chiappa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
9iAS R2 is a terrible install. A complicated process further confused by poor instructions. Mike -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, installing 9iAS is a 250 mph breeze. One definition of a tornado is a very strong breeze. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Only if they make installing 9iAs a breeze ... I have heard stories that 9iAS installation is not a picnic ... Raj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
In addition to 9iAS R2 being a terrible install, it is riddled with bugs and a total beast to get operational! I'll give folks another example. If/when you HOST out from a 9i Form your Unix process environment is populated with about 18 environmental variables. The problem is that NONE of the following are defined; HOME, LOGNAME, PATH! So the poor process doesn't know who he is, which way is home and has limited ability to even find any executable; which make scripting a REAL challenge. Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike.Hately@npowernocc: rthern.com Subject: RE: Oracle 10i features Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/2002 01:24 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L 9iAS R2 is a terrible install. A complicated process further confused by poor instructions. Mike -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 7:33 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L No, installing 9iAS is a 250 mph breeze. One definition of a tornado is a very strong breeze. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:03 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Only if they make installing 9iAs a breeze ... I have heard stories that 9iAS installation is not a picnic ... Raj -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
Thanks for the link Jared. For now, I just bookmarker it. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:23 PM Check out OraC, written in Perl of course. :) http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/ Jared On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote: Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Title: RE: Oracle 10i features No, installing 9iAS is a 250 mph breeze. One definition of a tornado is "a very strong breeze". -Original Message-From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:03 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle 10i features Only if they make installing 9iAs a breeze ... I have heard stories that 9iAS installation is not a picnic ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle 10i features iDS9iRel2 is quite a suite, it includes Designer now. So... in one suite... Apache + Developer Server (Forms + Reports + Graphics) + Discoverer + Portal + Designer + Web Cache + Internet Cache + Wireless Portal + DAD administration + OEM Management Server all in one easy to use kit. What's wrong with packaging the Oracle rdbms in there too? I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
RE: Oracle 10i features
.NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
Better I/O and storage management facilities, possibly a universal datafile format across all computing platforms... Certainly a much-improved OEM product, seeing as how they now have Gaja Vaidyanatha, James Morle, John Beresniewicz, and other incredible people working on that product team... Pure speculation on my part, mind you... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:59 AM Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Working change management pack would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Tim Gorman [mailto:Tim;SageLogix.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle 10i features Better I/O and storage management facilities, possibly a universal datafile format across all computing platforms... Certainly a much-improved OEM product, seeing as how they now have Gaja Vaidyanatha, James Morle, John Beresniewicz, and other incredible people working on that product team... Pure speculation on my part, mind you... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:59 AM Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
OEM 4.0 was announced recently, check the otn pages. Pat. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Better I/O and storage management facilities, possibly a universal datafile format across all computing platforms... Certainly a much-improved OEM product, seeing as how they now have Gaja Vaidyanatha, James Morle, John Beresniewicz, and other incredible people working on that product team... Pure speculation on my part, mind you... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:59 AM Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Title: RE: Oracle 10i features New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art! This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*2
RE: Oracle 10i features
I've heard rumours of OEM being ported to PDA platforms (a la PocketDBA) - has anybody else heard this, or now of any further info out there? -Original Message- Patrice J Sent: 12 November 2002 16:19 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OEM 4.0 was announced recently, check the otn pages. Pat. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Better I/O and storage management facilities, possibly a universal datafile format across all computing platforms... Certainly a much-improved OEM product, seeing as how they now have Gaja Vaidyanatha, James Morle, John Beresniewicz, and other incredible people working on that product team... Pure speculation on my part, mind you... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:59 AM Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mirsky, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Get thee to the SQL Server!!! -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Sherman, Edward INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Nope, I'm just preparing software for Mr. David Bowman and the Discovery. -Original Message- From: Mirsky, Greg [mailto:gmirsky;Estee.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle 10i features Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mirsky, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
Blah, you DON'T understand it. This will be the biggest upgrade of Oracle software in last 15 year. The administrators get possibility to enjoy first time the power of mutimedia, network and great user interface like dekstop users have. Till today poor administrators have to work with command line and use absurd SSH to connect to server (Don't tell me you still use VIM!). Now you will get the enhanced XP desktop with variable skins and virtual desktops!!! :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 17:54, you wrote: Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
I can't let you do that, Dave. Stop. Stop. Stop. What are you doing, Dave? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:23 AM Nope, I'm just preparing software for Mr. David Bowman and the Discovery. -Original Message- From: Mirsky, Greg [mailto:gmirsky;Estee.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle 10i features Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mirsky, Greg INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
Oracle XP ? On Tuesday 12 November 2002 09:29 am, Jan Pruner wrote: Blah, you DON'T understand it. This will be the biggest upgrade of Oracle software in last 15 year. The administrators get possibility to enjoy first time the power of mutimedia, network and great user interface like dekstop users have. Till today poor administrators have to work with command line and use absurd SSH to connect to server (Don't tell me you still use VIM!). Now you will get the enhanced XP desktop with variable skins and virtual desktops!!! :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 17:54, you wrote: Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Lyndon Tiu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 10i features
It was just over a year ago when Larry declared Oracle 9i the best database ever! - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM Blah, you DON'T understand it. This will be the biggest upgrade of Oracle software in last 15 year. The administrators get possibility to enjoy first time the power of mutimedia, network and great user interface like dekstop users have. Till today poor administrators have to work with command line and use absurd SSH to connect to server (Don't tell me you still use VIM!). Now you will get the enhanced XP desktop with variable skins and virtual desktops!!! :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 17:54, you wrote: Are you trying to KILL the product with MS bloat-ware? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L MS Word as SQL editor? MS Excel as sqlplus? Outlook as Instance Manager? :-) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 15:58, you wrote: .NET? -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle 10i features Any rumours about what might be included in 10i? Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Pruner Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jan.pruner.cz/ - Only Robinson Crusoe had all his work done by Friday -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Nicolai Tufar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
-Original Message- Now you will get the enhanced XP desktop with variable skins and virtual desktops!!! --- Which Unix had YEARS ago ... except for the XP part. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
iDS9iRel2 is quite a suite, it includes Designer now. So... in one suite... Apache + Developer Server (Forms + Reports + Graphics) + Discoverer + Portal + Designer + Web Cache + Internet Cache + Wireless Portal + DAD administration + OEM Management Server all in one easy to use kit. What's wrong with packaging the Oracle rdbms in there too? I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was just reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ... more info on oracle website ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
KISS works very well! It's called Korn Shell. (Propeller-heads call it bash. Heck if I know why.) A very useful piece is netterm: http://www.securenetterm.com/html/netterm.html Oh yeah, I should mention: This doesn't work well with NT. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 10i features
For me, it's the other way around. I've got the DB. I don't need/want the overhead of administering and maintaining the rest, especially if it'll cost beaucoup bucks for things that we won't use. Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP;mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Oracle 10i features iDS9iRel2 is quite a suite, it includes Designer now. So... in one suite... Apache + Developer Server (Forms + Reports + Graphics) + Discoverer + Portal + Designer + Web Cache + Internet Cache + Wireless Portal + DAD administration + OEM Management Server all in one easy to use kit. What's wrong with packaging the Oracle rdbms in there too? I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Good grief. Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead and hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: cost) option, even if you're already licensed for EE? I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj: The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service, which, as a J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server, leverages all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the Oracle9iAS instance. I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I started... sigh Rich -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).