RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Jon Walthour



Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Larry Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 7/27/01 12:41:20 PM
>

>Mark,
>
>Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
>the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
>on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.
>
>My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
>didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
>sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
>trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
>problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
>shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
>statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
>machine -- duh!):
>
>SQL> select 'x ' from dual;  < this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql> alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql> select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql> Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Mark Leith
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:02 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Subject: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>> With the Partitioning option
>> JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>>
>> >select 'x ' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select 'x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>> select ' x' from dual
>> *
>> ERROR at line 1:
>> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
>> [], [], [],
>> [], [], []
>>
>> >alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;
>>
>> System altered.
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X
>> --
>>  x
>>
>> What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
>> database only,
>> so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
>> mine with a
>> leading space.
>>
>> This is Win2K Professional SP2.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mark
>
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Kirsh, Gary

On 8.1.7.1.3 on W2K:

SQL> alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

 

Session altered.

 

SQL>

SQL> select 'x' from dual;

 

'X'



x

 

SQL> select 'X' from dual;

 

'X'



X

 

SQL> select ' x' from dual;

select ' x' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL> select ' X' from dual;

select ' X' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL> select 'x ' from dual;

select 'x ' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL> select ' x ' from dual;

 

'X'



 x

 

SQL> select ' X ' from dual;

 

'X'



 X

 


Gary Kirsh
Next Extent, Inc


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Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:16 PM
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Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Larry Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 7/27/01 12:41:20 PM
>

>Mark,
>
>Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
>the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
>on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.
>
>My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
>didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
>sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
>trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
>problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
>shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
>statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
>machine -- duh!):
>
>SQL> select 'x ' from dual;  < this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql> alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql> select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql> Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Mark Leith
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:02 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Subject: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>> With the Partitioning option
>> JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>>
>> >select 'x ' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select 'x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>> select ' x' from dual
>> *
>> ERROR at line 1:
>> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
>> [], [], [],
>> [], [], []
>>
>> >alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;
>>
>> System altered.
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X
>> --
>>  x
>>
>> What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
>> database only,
>> so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
>> mine with a
>> leading space.
>>
>> This is Win2K Professional SP2.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mark
>
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Chaim . Katz




I'm on NT on
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.1
and do receive: ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182]
Chaim






"Jon Walthour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/27/2001 02:16:03 PM

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Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

>--- Original Message ---
>From: "Larry Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 7/27/01 12:41:20 PM
>

>Mark,
>
>Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
>the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
>on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.
>
>My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
>didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
>sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
>trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
>problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
>shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
>statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
>machine -- duh!):
>
>SQL> select 'x ' from dual;  < this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql> alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql> select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql> Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Mark Leith
>> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:02 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>> Subject: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>> With the Partitioning option
>> JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
>>
>> >select 'x ' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select 'x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X'
>> 
>> x
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>> select ' x' from dual
>> *
>> ERROR at line 1:
>> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
>> [], [], [],
>> [], [], []
>>
>> >alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;
>>
>> System altered.
>>
>> >select ' x' from dual;
>>
>> 'X
>> --
>>  x
>>
>> What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
>> database only,
>> so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
>> mine with a
>> leading space.
>>
>> This is Win2K Professional SP2.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mark
>
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Larry Elkins

John,

Thanks for performing the test case and satisfying my curiosity.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon
> Walthour
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:16 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry, et. al.,
> 
> I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:
> 
> alter session set cursor_sharing=force;
> 
> select 'x' from dual;
> select 'X' from dual;
> select ' x' from dual;
> select ' X' from dual;
> select 'x ' from dual;
> select ' x ' from dual;
> select ' X ' from dual;
> 
> No problems with any of 'em.
> 
> Jon Walthour

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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Larry Elkins

Thanks to all who replied. So maybe it *is* a combination of things. 

Here's a recap:

8.1.7.0.0 W2k Ser SP2 Failure
8.1.7.0.0 W2k Pro SP2 Failure
8.1.7.0.0 W2k Pro SP1 Failure
8.1.7.1.1 W2K Pro SP2 Success 
8.1.7.1.1 NT  ?   ?   Failure
8.1.7.1.3 W2K ?   ?   Failure
8.1.7.1.? HP-UX 11.0  Success 

I'll ring the DBA sometime next week and find out what Oracle has to say.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-29 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Larry,

On 
8.1.7.1.5 W2K Pro SP1 No errors:

SQL> select 'x ' from dual;

'X
--
x

SQL> select ' x' from dual;

'X
--
 x

SQL> alter system set cursor_sharing=force;

System altered.

SQL> Select 'x ' from dual;

'X'

x

SQL> Select ' x' from dual;

'X'

 x

SQL> 

This is in a simple test database.

If I try it on 
8.1.7.1.4 NT4 SP6a - (different parameters, different database) then I get a


SQL> select 'x ' from dual;

'X
--
x

SQL> select ' x' from dual;

'X
--
 x

SQL> alter system set cursor_sharing=force;

System altered.

SQL> Select 'x ' from dual;
Select 'x ' from dual
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [546660348], [], [], [],
[], [], []


Regards,
Bruce Reardon

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, 28 July 2001 9:16 

Thanks to all who replied. So maybe it *is* a combination of things. 

Here's a recap:

8.1.7.0.0 W2k Ser SP2 Failure
8.1.7.0.0 W2k Pro SP2 Failure
8.1.7.0.0 W2k Pro SP1 Failure
8.1.7.1.1 W2K Pro SP2 Success 
8.1.7.1.1 NT  ?   ?   Failure
8.1.7.1.3 W2K ?   ?   Failure
8.1.7.1.? HP-UX 11.0  Success 

I'll ring the DBA sometime next week and find out what Oracle has to say.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-30 Thread Larry Elkins

Bruce,

Thanks for running the test. I will add this to my collection of results. 

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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> Bruce (CALBBAY)
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 11:06 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE
> 
> 
> Larry,
> 
> On 
> 8.1.7.1.5 W2K Pro SP1 No errors:
> 
> SQL> select 'x ' from dual;
> 
> 'X
> --
> x
> 
> SQL> select ' x' from dual;
> 
> 'X
> --
>  x
> 
> SQL> alter system set cursor_sharing=force;
> 
> System altered.
> 
> SQL> Select 'x ' from dual;
> 
> 'X'
> 
> x
> 
> SQL> Select ' x' from dual;
> 
> 'X'
> 
>  x
> 
> SQL> 
> 
> This is in a simple test database.
> 
> If I try it on 
> 8.1.7.1.4 NT4 SP6a - (different parameters, different database) 
> then I get a
> 
> 
> SQL> select 'x ' from dual;
> 
> 'X
> --
> x
> 
> SQL> select ' x' from dual;
> 
> 'X
> --
>  x
> 
> SQL> alter system set cursor_sharing=force;
> 
> System altered.
> 
> SQL> Select 'x ' from dual;
> Select 'x ' from dual
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [546660348], 
> [], [], [],
> [], [], []
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Reardon

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RE: Re: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques.

2001-07-03 Thread Jon Walthour




>is it friday yet?;-)

If you get tomorrow off for the Fourth of July, it's kinda like
a Friday today.

Jon Walthour, OCDBA
Oracle DBA
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Cincinnati, Ohio



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RE: Re: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques.

2001-07-03 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

And if you don't get the fouth off, it's very much like Tuesday. :o(

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>is it friday yet?;-)

If you get tomorrow off for the Fourth of July, it's kinda like
a Friday today.

Jon Walthour, OCDBA
Oracle DBA
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RE: Re: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques.

2001-07-03 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

XACTLY!!

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Walthour
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>is it friday yet?;-)

If you get tomorrow off for the Fourth of July, it's kinda like
a Friday today.

Jon Walthour, OCDBA
Oracle DBA
Computer Horizons
Cincinnati, Ohio



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Re: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques. - OCP Certification

2001-07-03 Thread Nikunj Gupta
Title: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE ques.



9i has come up with cursor_sharing = 
similar,
which was missing till 8i. We had FORCE and 
EXACT.  FORCE was not what most of the DBA's were willing to use. and hence 
used EXACT.  But similar will do most of the job (Assumed) that we were 
looking with CURSOR_SHARING.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Fowler, Kenneth R 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 08:50 
  AM
  Subject: OT: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE 
  ques. - OCP Certification
  
  Why 
  is it that people seem to have the need to apologize after admitting that they 
  are OCP certified (or are working toward the goal etc).  I know that 
  there are a lot of differing opinions regarding OCP and what it may or may not 
  tell you about a particular individual, but, if your company is willing to pay 
  for you to pursue this then it is always (IMO) a good idea!  After all, 
  it hopefully will provide you with some incentive to pick up some manuals and 
  perhaps mess with a test database and learn some new stuff.  Just how 
  could this be a bad thing?
   
   
  Ken.
   
   
  PS.  I would rather be caught with an OCP 
  certification than be caught driving a tan minivan any 
day!
  
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ORACLE-LSubject: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE 
ques.
Gurus 
Well the boss is now getting on my back for me to upgrade my 
OCP to 8i.  I know, I know, I wasn't going to, please don't flame me, 
but work is insisting that I do.  So now I'm studying the upgrade book 
and it's sparked up a couple of questions regarding cursor_sharing = 
force.
1) I've heard a bunch of negative things (like bugs) 
regarding using this feature, was this just with 8.1.6 or is it still 
buggy?
2) Anyone out there using it?  Does it give that much 
better performance gains?  It seems to me like it's not worth 
implementing.
3)Can the guys playing with 9i out there verify if this is 
buggy in 9i? 
Thanks to all. Ivan Rivera 
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