Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
IIRC = if I remember correctly. Yes, you have just to sit at these courses. They are not really advanced courses, especially when the instructor doesn't know, what's he talking about. That's why I put advanced in double quotes. If you want real advanced courses, go with Data Server Internals or seminars what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:04 AM this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that one. what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit and listen to the instructor? how good are those advanced courses? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM Hi! There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 IIRC. At least then the requirements were: Had to be 9i OCP. Had to pass 2 advanced courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, that shows OCM actually is worth something. There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, refresh your recovery skills ;) It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) Cheers, Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. From: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). Gudmundur -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
Title: RE: Re: 9i OCP Details It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. From: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). Gudmundur -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
Totally agree. Make the pitch that this class alone could push your skills up to the next level. It is a real eye-opener. I'll bet it is much less than an Oracle Education class. As a bonus I think they usually let you use their tools for a month. Use your negotiating skills. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. From: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). Gudmundur -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
/*+ DISCLAIMER */ I have no association with Cary or hotsos (did I get it right this time Cary?) and I've never been to one of his classes... but knowing Cary, having talked to him, having had his help on a few issues and questions and having been to his presentations, I'd say if you can go, GO GO GO. RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 6/26/2003 10:29 AM Totally agree. Make the pitch that this class alone could push your skills up to the next level. It is a real eye-opener. I'll bet it is much less than an Oracle Education class. As a bonus I think they usually let you use their tools for a month. Use your negotiating skills. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's well worth the begging. I went in April and it was a GREAT class. I suggest you do what you can to get there. -Scott -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L hotsos is going to be in town next week and im 'trying' get my boss to send me. slow economy. people dont want to spend money on training. :( hope it doesnt fill up before he makes up his mind. From: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 05:49:43 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). Gudmundur -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: RE: 9i OCP Details
what office is that internals class taught out of? does anyone else teach it? how many days is it? From: Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/26 Thu AM 11:35:34 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 9i OCP Details You are talking about Scott Gossett jr. I took that internals course and it was good. It was very, very good. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone:(203) 459-6855 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson wrote: If you want real advanced courses go with [...] what Jonathan Lewis or guys at his level provide. I have to agree on this. I've had the good fortune to sit in on Lewis's 'Optimising Oracle' and Cary Millsap's 'Hotsos Clinic 101' and no course I ever took from Oracle Education comes close to what these guys offer (and I've taken quite a few). The only course from Oracle Education that's come close for me is the internals course that I took about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't seen it offered recently. The instructor was Scott somebody, who was, I was told, THE Scott or Scott/Tiger fame. I second the recommendation for Jonathan Lewis; his Cost-Based Optimization course was well taught and I found it very useful. Craig Shallahamer (www.orapub.com) also offers some worthwhile courses and is a very good instructor. I'll find out about the Hotsos Clinic this August in Denver. Looking forward to it. Glenn Stauffer -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Glenn Stauffer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
don't know about that. but if you take and pass the 9i upgrade exam (and you currently hold an 8i certif) , nothing else is needed. you get your 9i certif. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:57 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
Hi! There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 IIRC. At least then the requirements were: Had to be 9i OCP. Had to pass 2 advanced courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, that shows OCM actually is worth something. There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, refresh your recovery skills ;) It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) Cheers, Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L
Re: Re: 9i OCP Details
this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that one. what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit and listen to the instructor? how good are those advanced courses? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM Hi! There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 IIRC. At least then the requirements were: Had to be 9i OCP. Had to pass 2 advanced courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, that shows OCM actually is worth something. There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, refresh your recovery skills ;) It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) Cheers, Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California--
RE: Re: 9i OCP Details
If you are on windoze this might be of great help. I use it to decipher a lot of such acronyms :-) http://www.gurunet.com/ Naveen -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Re: 9i OCP Details this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that one. what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just sit and listen to the instructor? how good are those advanced courses? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:27 PM Hi! There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's 50 IIRC. At least then the requirements were: Had to be 9i OCP. Had to pass 2 advanced courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC. Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it, that shows OCM actually is worth something. There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when going, refresh your recovery skills ;) It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to Chicago from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe then (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the money - I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;) Cheers, Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM to get OCM you need to take 2 advanced classes then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right? what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different OCMs? btw, how much does it all cost? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details Hi! If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd go with 8i first, then upgrade to 9i. On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;) Tanel. OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM Senthil So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking whether you should: 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam. 2. Take the 9i exams. This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you still work with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or two. Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At that time since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I still work with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route. If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route. I expect soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be closed. This has already happened with Oracle 8. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Group, I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP exams. To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New features from any of the Oracle Edu Partners. Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams. Suggestion are appreciated. Thanks Senthil. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Senthil Kumar D INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
