RE: Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!

2002-01-31 Thread Bellows, Bambi

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Bambi,
Thanks for the heads up. How was the response time on the apps if it
relied on an outside location for some of it's work? Most be a nightmare
to tune that sucker.
ROR mô¿ôm

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/02 05:10PM >>>
So our internal consultants from a-certain-company-we-all-know-and-love
call
me because one of their pages in Vision is not coming up.  Of course,
Metalink was down, so I couldn't look into it.  I posted a question
here to
see if anyone ever had a similar problem.  No response, so I'm assuming
"no"
(or that I'm being redirected to people's trashbin due to all my
discussions
of life in the good old days).  Anyway, Metalink comes up, and, would
you
believe it?, go tell it on the mountain!, their app mysteriously comes
up,
at the same time.  Coincidence?  Hmm.  So, while these %@$& are
sniffing
around inside *Received: from CONNECT-MTA by galottermy* beautiful,
immaculate database for problems, I call
said-same-company-we-all-know-and-love on the phone.  (I love this
"we're
all on the same team" bullsh*t.)  Seems that the Vision instance has
loads
of links to internal Oracle sites, and when Oracle went down, well

 
Anyway, BE AWARE, if you're running Vision, about 20% of your app, by
default, is served outside your own environment, meaning that
approximately
20% of the problems you will have will be outside your control.  Oh,
and
that teamwork thing works real well when you're helping "other people",
or
when things are rosy... they don't seem to work so good when they're
having
problems and looking for a way to deflect blame.  Surprise, surprise,
surprise.

Bambi.
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Re: Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!

2002-01-31 Thread bill thater

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>Anyway, BE AWARE, if you're running Vision, about 20% of your app, by
>default, is served outside your own environment, meaning that approximately
>20% of the problems you will have will be outside your control.  Oh, and
>that teamwork thing works real well when you're helping "other people", or
>when things are rosy... they don't seem to work so good when they're having
>problems and looking for a way to deflect blame.  Surprise, surprise,
>surprise.
>
>Bambi.
>
now now, don't hold back.  let us know you're true feelings.  it's not 
good to keep them in.;-)

i seem to always be on those kind of teams.;-)

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You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.

You have a tendency to feel you are superior to most computers.






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Re: Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!

2002-01-31 Thread Ron Rogers

Bambi,
Thanks for the heads up. How was the response time on the apps if it
relied on an outside location for some of it's work? Most be a nightmare
to tune that sucker.
ROR mô¿ôm

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/02 05:10PM >>>
So our internal consultants from a-certain-company-we-all-know-and-love
call
me because one of their pages in Vision is not coming up.  Of course,
Metalink was down, so I couldn't look into it.  I posted a question
here to
see if anyone ever had a similar problem.  No response, so I'm assuming
"no"
(or that I'm being redirected to people's trashbin due to all my
discussions
of life in the good old days).  Anyway, Metalink comes up, and, would
you
believe it?, go tell it on the mountain!, their app mysteriously comes
up,
at the same time.  Coincidence?  Hmm.  So, while these %@$& are
sniffing
around inside *Received: from CONNECT-MTA by galottermy* beautiful, immaculate 
database for problems, I call
said-same-company-we-all-know-and-love on the phone.  (I love this
"we're
all on the same team" bullsh*t.)  Seems that the Vision instance has
loads
of links to internal Oracle sites, and when Oracle went down, well

 
Anyway, BE AWARE, if you're running Vision, about 20% of your app, by
default, is served outside your own environment, meaning that
approximately
20% of the problems you will have will be outside your control.  Oh,
and
that teamwork thing works real well when you're helping "other people",
or
when things are rosy... they don't seem to work so good when they're
having
problems and looking for a way to deflect blame.  Surprise, surprise,
surprise.

Bambi.
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RE: Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!

2002-01-30 Thread Scott . Shafer

Good to know.  Thanks, Bambi.   How's the store going? 

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

"Common sense will not accomplish great things. Simply become insane and
desperate."

> -Original Message-
> From: Bellows, Bambi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:10 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  Teamwork teamwork rah rah rah!
> 
> So our internal consultants from a-certain-company-we-all-know-and-love
> call
> me because one of their pages in Vision is not coming up.  Of course,
> Metalink was down, so I couldn't look into it.  I posted a question here
> to
> see if anyone ever had a similar problem.  No response, so I'm assuming
> "no"
> (or that I'm being redirected to people's trashbin due to all my
> discussions
> of life in the good old days).  Anyway, Metalink comes up, and, would you
> believe it?, go tell it on the mountain!, their app mysteriously comes up,
> at the same time.  Coincidence?  Hmm.  So, while these %@$& are sniffing
> around inside *my* beautiful, immaculate database for problems, I call
> said-same-company-we-all-know-and-love on the phone.  (I love this "we're
> all on the same team" bullsh*t.)  Seems that the Vision instance has loads
> of links to internal Oracle sites, and when Oracle went down, well 
>  
> Anyway, BE AWARE, if you're running Vision, about 20% of your app, by
> default, is served outside your own environment, meaning that
> approximately
> 20% of the problems you will have will be outside your control.  Oh, and
> that teamwork thing works real well when you're helping "other people", or
> when things are rosy... they don't seem to work so good when they're
> having
> problems and looking for a way to deflect blame.  Surprise, surprise,
> surprise.
> 
> Bambi.
> 
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