Re: Unix Client Install
Hi Ed, We have in the past taken the entire oracle_home tree and it worked (same os version patch level) I do not remember the UNIX boys doing any other magic. Jack Ed Maurer EMaurer@acqui To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] rex.com cc: (bcc: Jack van Zanen/nlzanen1/External/MEY/NL) Sent by: Subject: Unix Client Install [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 09-08-2001 02:25 Please respond to ORACLE-L Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = De informatie verzonden in dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding en/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is, behoudens voorafgaande schriftelijke toestemming van Ernst Young, niet toegestaan. Ernst Young staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mailbericht, noch voor tijdige ontvangst daarvan. Ernst Young kan niet garanderen dat een verzonden e-mailbericht vrij is van virussen, noch dat e-mailberichten worden overgebracht zonder inbreuk of tussenkomst van onbevoegde derden. Indien bovenstaand e-mailbericht niet aan u is gericht, verzoeken wij u vriendelijk doch dringend het e-mailbericht te retourneren aan de verzender en het origineel en eventuele kopieën te verwijderen en te vernietigen. Ernst Young hanteert bij de uitoefening van haar werkzaamheden algemene voorwaarden, waarin een beperking van aansprakelijkheid is opgenomen. De algemene voorwaarden worden u op verzoek kosteloos toegezonden. = The information contained in this communication is confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. You should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst Young. Ernst Young is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. Ernst Young does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication
Re: Unix Client Install
Hi Charlie, Isn't that with 8i and up only? Upgrades should be fine anyway as you would normally install in different home anyway. If I remember correctly only patches go wrong. Jack Charlie Mengler To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] charliem@mwh. cc: (bcc: Jack van Zanen/nlzanen1/External/MEY/NL) com Subject: Re: Unix Client Install Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 09-08-2001 03:56 Please respond to ORACLE-L It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able to upgrade it later. There some orainventory directory where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME HTH YYMV! Ed Maurer wrote: Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charlie Mengler INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). = De informatie verzonden in dit e-mailbericht is vertrouwelijk en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging, verspreiding en/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is, behoudens voorafgaande schriftelijke toestemming van Ernst Young, niet toegestaan. Ernst Young staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden e-mailbericht, noch voor tijdige ontvangst daarvan. Ernst Young kan niet garanderen dat een verzonden e-mailbericht vrij is van virussen, noch dat e-mailberichten worden overgebracht zonder inbreuk of tussenkomst van onbevoegde derden. Indien bovenstaand e-mailbericht niet aan u is gericht, verzoeken wij u
RE: Unix Client Install
But it is stored, by default, under the oracle account's home directory (together with the OUI and jre). I haven't tried it, but maybe you could copy those as well? I would guess that the paths to all of these bits would have to be the same on both machines. YMMV David Lord -Original Message- Sent: 09 August 2001 02:56 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able to upgrade it later. There some orainventory directory where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME HTH YYMV! Ed Maurer wrote: Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charlie Mengler INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Lord, David - CS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix Client Install - OraInventory
Actually, on my original install, it went one level up from ORACLE_HOME - e.g, ORACLE_HOME was /dsk001/app/oracle/product/8.1.7; the OraInventory,oui,jre went into /dsk001/app/oracle/product - one level up. Since that's where I tarred/untarred to on the new machine, I should have the installer info - at least it appears there. All seems to work fine. I'll keep an eye out when/if patching! Much and Many thanks for all the responses, I'll sleep easier. Ed Maurer. -Original Message- From: Lord, David - CS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Unix Client Install But it is stored, by default, under the oracle account's home directory (together with the OUI and jre). I haven't tried it, but maybe you could copy those as well? I would guess that the paths to all of these bits would have to be the same on both machines. YMMV David Lord -Original Message- Sent: 09 August 2001 02:56 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able to upgrade it later. There some orainventory directory where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME HTH YYMV! Ed Maurer wrote: Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charlie Mengler INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Lord, David - CS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix Client Install
Hmm, could one do this onto a different version of UNIX and just relink the software? -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, um, that's how I will install oracle (same version obviously) on second and third machines. I work with my SA, making sure everything is the same (Unix patches, filesystems, etc) and then we copy. From: Ed Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unix Client Install Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:25:39 -0800 Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Miller, Jay INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix Client Install
I actually opened a tar on this. They way unless you do a system copy that its not supported. There are supposedly things other then ORACLE_HOME/ORACLE_BASE to deal with. I did not have the systems to actually test. What I wanted was to upgrade one side of a Service Guard server and just copy it to the other server after failing over the database. Ended up just doing the install. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:01 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L well, um, that's how I will install oracle (same version obviously) on second and third machines. I work with my SA, making sure everything is the same (Unix patches, filesystems, etc) and then we copy. From: Ed Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unix Client Install Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:25:39 -0800 Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Kimberly Smith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Unix Client Install
If you want the OUI to recognize a hand-copied install, for the purposes of adding components, removing components or applying patchsets or upgrading, there are a few things you have to do. In addition to the ORACLE_HOME, you have to copy oraInventory, and /var/opt/oracle/orainst.loc. If you do that, you will be able to run the installer later on the copy, and apply patchsets if you want. This goes for Unix client or server. The orainstRoot.sh script creates the inventory pointer (/var/opt/oracle/orainst.loc), so if you grab that script and run it as root on the copy of the install, you will get the pointer created correctly. I hate the Oracle Universal Installer. It is pure evil. -- Jeremiah Wilton http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Lord, David - CS wrote: But it is stored, by default, under the oracle account's home directory (together with the OUI and jre). I haven't tried it, but maybe you could copy those as well? I would guess that the paths to all of these bits would have to be the same on both machines. -Original Message- It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able to upgrade it later. There some orainventory directory where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME Ed Maurer wrote: Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jeremiah Wilton INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Unix Client Install
well, um, that's how I will install oracle (same version obviously) on second and third machines. I work with my SA, making sure everything is the same (Unix patches, filesystems, etc) and then we copy. From: Ed Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Unix Client Install Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:25:39 -0800 Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Unix Client Install
It will allow you to run Oracle, but you won't be able to upgrade it later. There some orainventory directory where OUI keeps track of what it has installed on this system. This folder is NOT stored in or under ORACLE_HOME HTH YYMV! Ed Maurer wrote: Given virtually identical Unix machines (i.e., same kernel and patch sets,) is there any reason NOT to take the cowards way out and use a tar file of $ORACLE_HOME from the first client only install (from CD with X-win client) to install to another machine? My original install CD has 'walked'; I could download and cpio ... or wait 3 days for support to get me new CD's. Why shouldn't I use the working installation as a base? Are there any machine specific actions taken by the installer besides obvious tnsnames if you use the installation gui) for client installations ? TIA Ed Maurer Acquirex -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ed Maurer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Charlie Mengler INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
