RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Dave, Did you stop and start SCHEDULER.if not do it, it will fix the problem. Muqthar Ahmed DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Muqthar Ahmed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Dave, I've found AT to be flakey at best. I haven't had your specific problem, but I have had problems where AT would only occasionally run when it was supposed to. I don't remember if it was a specific NT patch or a version of IE explorer, but one of these will install a Scheduler utility, which I've found to be pretty reliable. If you open My Computer (or explorer) you should see a folder called Scheduled Tasks. Double-click and then use the wizard to set up a call to your batch file. HTH, -- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-604-0200 x106 On 7/17/02, Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Davey INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Which editor did you use to edit your batch file? WordPad and Notepad don't behave the same way. Open the file in wordpad and in notepad, to see if it looks the same in both. Beware of tabs, unicode, and the two different EOL characters. Wordpad sometimes uses a different end-of-line character than notepad. Notepad sometimes saves things in unicode. Also make sure you change the explorer settings to show file name extensions, show all files, etc. sometimes one of the editors (not sure if it's wordpad or notepad) saves files with .txt at the end, even though you specify an extension in the Save As filename box. e.g. you can end up with files named job.txt.txt. Save things in plain text, avoid word format, but you probably know that already. HTH Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:43 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
One problem that I have had with the 'AT' command is the you cannot use UNC namimg when doing a copy, you have to use a mapped drive. This is a documented 'feature' of the 'AT' command. Example: copy stuff to \\server\backup_dir -- does not work net use f: \\server\backup_dir copy stuff to f: -- Works Good luck, Scott I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hayes, Scott INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
The Scheduler is installed with IE5.5 - definitively worth the install. As far as executing some lines but not others - it sounds like a environment variable problem to me - put a set command (to list variables and a pause command in your script (or output a log file) and check that your environmental settings are okay. Lewis Bishop --- Oracle Database Consultant - Barclays Enable/ISS/OpenPlan Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 16:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Dave, I've found AT to be flakey at best. I haven't had your specific problem, but I have had problems where AT would only occasionally run when it was supposed to. I don't remember if it was a specific NT patch or a version of IE explorer, but one of these will install a Scheduler utility, which I've found to be pretty reliable. If you open My Computer (or explorer) you should see a folder called Scheduled Tasks. Double-click and then use the wizard to set up a call to your batch file. HTH, -- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-604-0200 x106 On 7/17/02, Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Davey INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England Number : 3295699. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Bishop Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed
Re: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Dave, What is the difference between the lines, that get executed and those that don't. Are you referencing mapped network drives in those lines that don't get executed? On NT AT job is executed by the NT Scheduler, which runs under local SYSTEM account and does not have permissions to access network drives. That's why you might see the difference, when you run batch file from the dos prompt: you run it under your account, which probably has permissions to access network drives. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:58 AM Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Did you check the event viewer Application log System log for any unanticipated errors? Waleed -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Khedr, Waleed INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
In the same veinif it's a system level environment variable that has been added since reboot, then you need a reboot of the server. Simply starting and stopping the Scheduler service is not enough since the scheduler service inherits its environment from the Service Control manager (Services.exe) which only reads its environment at system boottime. Cheers Jeff Herrick On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Bishop Lewis wrote: The Scheduler is installed with IE5.5 - definitively worth the install. As far as executing some lines but not others - it sounds like a environment variable problem to me - put a set command (to list variables and a pause command in your script (or output a log file) and check that your environmental settings are okay. Lewis Bishop --- Oracle Database Consultant - Barclays Enable/ISS/OpenPlan Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 16:14 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This header confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Corporate IT THE WOOLWICH -- Dave, I've found AT to be flakey at best. I haven't had your specific problem, but I have had problems where AT would only occasionally run when it was supposed to. I don't remember if it was a specific NT patch or a version of IE explorer, but one of these will install a Scheduler utility, which I've found to be pretty reliable. If you open My Computer (or explorer) you should see a folder called Scheduled Tasks. Double-click and then use the wizard to set up a call to your batch file. HTH, -- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-604-0200 x106 On 7/17/02, Farnsworth, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alan Davey INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information, attachments and opinions contained in this message are those of its author only and do not necessarily represent those of The Woolwich and or any other members of the Barclays Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The sender may not be authorised to give financial advice, and nothing in this message should be construed as offering such advice. The message may contain privileged and confidential information and you may not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error please notify the Information Security Manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replies to this email may be monitored for operational or business reasons. Woolwich plc. Registered in England Number : 3295699. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author:
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
That is it exactly!! I have a few lines that do a XCOPY command to copy my database files to another server. Previously I had the backup going to a local drive. Now I have a server that I am getting all my database backups going to. Will it work if the drive is a mapped drive on the Oracle server? Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dave, What is the difference between the lines, that get executed and those that don't. Are you referencing mapped network drives in those lines that don't get executed? On NT AT job is executed by the NT Scheduler, which runs under local SYSTEM account and does not have permissions to access network drives. That's why you might see the difference, when you run batch file from the dos prompt: you run it under your account, which probably has permissions to access network drives. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:58 AM Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Dave, try WinCron.. Pretty cheap and apparently more reliable.. http://www.wincron.co.uk M. -Original Message- Dave Sent: 17 July 2002 16:59 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Leith INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
Re: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Not sure about mapped drives, just try it. If it wouldn't work, try to change Task Scheduler service startup options (through ControlPanel/Services) to run under some account, which has privileges to access network drives, instead of running under local SYSTEM account. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:47 PM That is it exactly!! I have a few lines that do a XCOPY command to copy my database files to another server. Previously I had the backup going to a local drive. Now I have a server that I am getting all my database backups going to. Will it work if the drive is a mapped drive on the Oracle server? Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dave, What is the difference between the lines, that get executed and those that don't. Are you referencing mapped network drives in those lines that don't get executed? On NT AT job is executed by the NT Scheduler, which runs under local SYSTEM account and does not have permissions to access network drives. That's why you might see the difference, when you run batch file from the dos prompt: you run it under your account, which probably has permissions to access network drives. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:58 AM Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line
Re: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
You may want to check a couple of things: 1. Be careful which editor you use. (Consider locating an old copy of the MS-DOS QEdit shareware program. It's small, and very clean). Or, use the DOS EDIT utility. (If you feel the need for a windows editor, notepad is probably your cleanest choice.) 2. DOS sometimes needs an end-of-file marker (Ctrl-Z). Some things won't recognize the last line without it. 3. Or, if you're a *nix bigot like me, install cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com). You'll get a unix-like cron utility as well as some decent scripting tools... Farnsworth, Dave wrote: I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- James James J. Morrow E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Principal Consultant Tenure Systems, Inc. McKinney, TX, USA The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James J. Morrow INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird Windoze 'AT' Behavior
Yes :) Scott -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:47 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That is it exactly!! I have a few lines that do a XCOPY command to copy my database files to another server. Previously I had the backup going to a local drive. Now I have a server that I am getting all my database backups going to. Will it work if the drive is a mapped drive on the Oracle server? Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dave, What is the difference between the lines, that get executed and those that don't. Are you referencing mapped network drives in those lines that don't get executed? On NT AT job is executed by the NT Scheduler, which runs under local SYSTEM account and does not have permissions to access network drives. That's why you might see the difference, when you run batch file from the dos prompt: you run it under your account, which probably has permissions to access network drives. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 11:58 AM Yep, it has the full path and name. It still only executes some of the lines of code. I would expect that it execute the whole file or non of the file. I bounced the server so I'll see if that helps. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Have you fully qualified the path to the batch file ? Maybe the previous batch file been copied into another directory in the PATH and AT is finding this one before it finds your edited file. Ade -Original Message- Sent: 17 July 2002 14:43 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have Oracle 8.1.7 running on NT. I do cold backups nightly and have a batch file that is called by the NT 'AT' scheduler. I recently changed some lines of commands in the batch file and since then when the batch file is executed by 'AT' only the lines that I did not edit are executed. If I execute the batch file from the command prompt it works fine. I deleted the job from 'AT' and then entered it back in but still getting this odd behavior of only executing the commands that I did not edit. Our SA's know nothing about 'AT' so they are of no help. Has anyone else seen this odd behavior in the 'AT' function in Windoze? I know you find it hard to believe that something can be weird in Windoze. ;o) And yes, I am soon planning on learning RMAN and do hot backups. I have the 8i Backup and Recovery Handbook for my reading pleasure. I see the app that is being used going to a 24X7 schedule. Now it is only used during the day. Thanks, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Live Life in Broadband www.telewest.co.uk The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail may not represent those of the company. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material from any computer. == -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Adrian Roe INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858)