Re: what is oracle rdb?
Well said Mogens, I have been following your thread. I have worked with Rdb for several years it is an excellent product and thank GOD that they did not allove MS or CA or for that matter IBM to buy it. It would have been shot down to non-existence several years back. Murali Mogens_Nørgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, why did they do the right thing here, but not in other places? Very good question. Oracle has bought many, many companies and products over the years...One splendid thought I just had: Because it never became something to handle high up in the organisation, hence it never became a political issue, and therefor most of the BS has been avoided.Nothing - nothing - beats leaving the folks alone to do the job. That's why the bearded fellows have kept working at the NEDC (New England Development Center), as I think it's called.MogensThater, William wrote:>Mogens Nørgaard scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:>> >>>That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ>>in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after>>The Bill).>> yes i'm sure it's not named after me... oh you meant the other bill.;-)>> >>>Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again>>after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded,>>bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England>>Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write>>new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it>>into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have>>never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask>>the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they>>still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect.>> i wonder why this one worked and the other's haven't? what made this one>different? i can't say the Oracle has exhibited this kind of integrity in>other places.>> >>>Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck?>> well, i don't know about him, but i found it interesting.>>-->Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA >"I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! - Ken>Thompson> >-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net-- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?=INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.comSan Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services-To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Murali Vallath Author: Oracle Real Application Clusters Publisher Digital Press http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=2V5D30UGVS&isbn=182885&itm=4#PU Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Re: what is oracle rdb?
Yeah, why did they do the right thing here, but not in other places? Very good question. Oracle has bought many, many companies and products over the years... One splendid thought I just had: Because it never became something to handle high up in the organisation, hence it never became a political issue, and therefor most of the BS has been avoided. Nothing - nothing - beats leaving the folks alone to do the job. That's why the bearded fellows have kept working at the NEDC (New England Development Center), as I think it's called. Mogens Thater, William wrote: Mogens Nørgaard scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after The Bill). yes i'm sure it's not named after me... oh you meant the other bill.;-) Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded, bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. i wonder why this one worked and the other's haven't? what made this one different? i can't say the Oracle has exhibited this kind of integrity in other places. Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? well, i don't know about him, but i found it interesting. -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! - Ken Thompson -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
Oh yes, even Lego complained about the price increase of support, upgrade rights and software. It was very steep. But they all accepted that the real price of their software had been "covered up" by Digital selling other things like hardware... Oracle just sells software. Still it was a problem for many small Rdb shops here. Thanks for reminding me. Mogens PS: And that #¤&"#/ enormous hit rate on Metalink searches has GOT to have a good explanation. It's been there for five or six years at least. I've BCC'ed David Ruthven, who helped invent the WebIV stuff. David - why the constant Rdb hits when searching? Jesse, Rich wrote: Brilliant, as always. Well deserved award, IMHO. No Academy(R) nomination on the way just yet, though. ;) BTW, the largest RDB customers seems like they've had a different experience than the littler ones. When Oracle bought RDB, they came to our parent company with a huge increase in the price tag for maintenance. I don't remember exactly, but it was either 100% or 200% *increase* for no added benefits and a drawback (perceived or real) of diminished service. So, our VP at the time gave Larry the finger and went with Sybase, which is now migrating into DB2 for a multi-billion dollar company. Oracle could have had a nice fat contract if they hadn't screwed us over like that. I still miss RDB...except when it constantly pops up in Metalink searches. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As the AWE (Award-Winning Educator) of the year, I have a huge responsibility placed on my shoulders: I have to answer questions regarding Rdb truthfully. So here we go... Back in the year 1994, Digital very discreetly asked their three biggest customers (including Lego) what they thought of the idea of Digital selling Rdb and other stuff to Oracle. This was before Oracle was asked, mind you. At the time, Lego had 700+ Rdb databases running. The three big ones answered back that if Oracle was the safe bet for securing their product for the next five to ten years, then fine. Then Digital went to Oracle and sold the stuff for at cheap price. I remember the Digital CEO asking the Oracle folks kindly to please treat their old, beloved customers nicely. It was - Goddamn it! - actually a quite touching moment, if you had any ideas back then about the level of integrity and support in the Digital community. That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after The Bill). Why did I deliver an Oracle course there, when they had Rdb already (and working like a charm, mind you)? Because all of the Rdb customers concluded this: We'll run all our old systems on Rdb for many years to come, but we'll base all our new systems on Oracle. Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded, bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. Oh, and many years later my guys in Premium Services were among the first five people to know about Lego's desire to change from SAP to Apps. Those were the days: We had so much Lego Mindstorm stuff (for the very cheap company price) available we didn't know what to do. Of course the whole thing failed, and they went back to SAP, but the guys still talk about the Lego sets... but not about the project itself. I think that Lego today is moving as fast as possible towards SQL Server and a general Windows strategy. These days, you don't get fired from choosing Microsoft. Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? Mogens Jesse, Rich wrote: Where's our Award-Winning Educator and former Lego DBA, Mogens? If there is one dream job for me, it would be an Oracle DBA at Lego. And I was upset to find that someone took my "legoman" username from my ISP at home. :( Rich -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the messa
RE: what is oracle rdb?
Brilliant, as always. Well deserved award, IMHO. No Academy(R) nomination on the way just yet, though. ;) BTW, the largest RDB customers seems like they've had a different experience than the littler ones. When Oracle bought RDB, they came to our parent company with a huge increase in the price tag for maintenance. I don't remember exactly, but it was either 100% or 200% *increase* for no added benefits and a drawback (perceived or real) of diminished service. So, our VP at the time gave Larry the finger and went with Sybase, which is now migrating into DB2 for a multi-billion dollar company. Oracle could have had a nice fat contract if they hadn't screwed us over like that. I still miss RDB...except when it constantly pops up in Metalink searches. :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L As the AWE (Award-Winning Educator) of the year, I have a huge responsibility placed on my shoulders: I have to answer questions regarding Rdb truthfully. So here we go... Back in the year 1994, Digital very discreetly asked their three biggest customers (including Lego) what they thought of the idea of Digital selling Rdb and other stuff to Oracle. This was before Oracle was asked, mind you. At the time, Lego had 700+ Rdb databases running. The three big ones answered back that if Oracle was the safe bet for securing their product for the next five to ten years, then fine. Then Digital went to Oracle and sold the stuff for at cheap price. I remember the Digital CEO asking the Oracle folks kindly to please treat their old, beloved customers nicely. It was - Goddamn it! - actually a quite touching moment, if you had any ideas back then about the level of integrity and support in the Digital community. That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after The Bill). Why did I deliver an Oracle course there, when they had Rdb already (and working like a charm, mind you)? Because all of the Rdb customers concluded this: We'll run all our old systems on Rdb for many years to come, but we'll base all our new systems on Oracle. Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded, bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. Oh, and many years later my guys in Premium Services were among the first five people to know about Lego's desire to change from SAP to Apps. Those were the days: We had so much Lego Mindstorm stuff (for the very cheap company price) available we didn't know what to do. Of course the whole thing failed, and they went back to SAP, but the guys still talk about the Lego sets... but not about the project itself. I think that Lego today is moving as fast as possible towards SQL Server and a general Windows strategy. These days, you don't get fired from choosing Microsoft. Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? Mogens Jesse, Rich wrote: >Where's our Award-Winning Educator and former Lego DBA, Mogens? If there is >one dream job for me, it would be an Oracle DBA at Lego. > >And I was upset to find that someone took my "legoman" username from my ISP >at home. :( > >Rich -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
Mogens Nørgaard scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ > in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after > The Bill). yes i'm sure it's not named after me... oh you meant the other bill.;-) > Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again > after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded, > bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England > Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write > new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it > into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have > never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask > the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they > still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. i wonder why this one worked and the other's haven't? what made this one different? i can't say the Oracle has exhibited this kind of integrity in other places. > Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? well, i don't know about him, but i found it interesting. -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -- Gilwell song [EMAIL PROTECTED] SCCS, the source motel! Programs check in and never check out! - Ken Thompson -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
As the AWE (Award-Winning Educator) of the year, I have a huge responsibility placed on my shoulders: I have to answer questions regarding Rdb truthfully. So here we go... Back in the year 1994, Digital very discreetly asked their three biggest customers (including Lego) what they thought of the idea of Digital selling Rdb and other stuff to Oracle. This was before Oracle was asked, mind you. At the time, Lego had 700+ Rdb databases running. The three big ones answered back that if Oracle was the safe bet for securing their product for the next five to ten years, then fine. Then Digital went to Oracle and sold the stuff for at cheap price. I remember the Digital CEO asking the Oracle folks kindly to please treat their old, beloved customers nicely. It was - Goddamn it! - actually a quite touching moment, if you had any ideas back then about the level of integrity and support in the Digital community. That's how I came to deliver the first-ever course at Lego in their HQ in Denmark (in a town called Billund, but certainly not named after The Bill). Why did I deliver an Oracle course there, when they had Rdb already (and working like a charm, mind you)? Because all of the Rdb customers concluded this: We'll run all our old systems on Rdb for many years to come, but we'll base all our new systems on Oracle. Oracle has done the right things about Rdb again and again and again after taking over the shop from Digital. They kept the bearded, bitter, old, twisted, spec-writing folks of the New England Development team. They let them get on with what they did best: Write new features for Rdb. They borrowed good ideas from them and fed it into Oracle. They let them use good Oracle ideas in Rdb. I have never, ever, seen any take-over work so well in the IT industry. Ask the Rdb customers (Lego, Novo, etc.) and they will tell you they still trust Oracle and Rdb. Incredibly well done. Respect. Oh, and many years later my guys in Premium Services were among the first five people to know about Lego's desire to change from SAP to Apps. Those were the days: We had so much Lego Mindstorm stuff (for the very cheap company price) available we didn't know what to do. Of course the whole thing failed, and they went back to SAP, but the guys still talk about the Lego sets... but not about the project itself. I think that Lego today is moving as fast as possible towards SQL Server and a general Windows strategy. These days, you don't get fired from choosing Microsoft. Jesse - was this what you wished for, or did it suck? Mogens Jesse, Rich wrote: Where's our Award-Winning Educator and former Lego DBA, Mogens? If there is one dream job for me, it would be an Oracle DBA at Lego. And I was upset to find that someone took my "legoman" username from my ISP at home. :( Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tuesday, November 25, 2003, 7:04:25 AM, Boivin, Patrice J ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: BPJ> I heard that Lego is one a big user of RDB. Don't know if it's true. As in Lego blocks? Cool. Heh, I just spent the better part of my Sunday afternoon buying compartmentized boxes and helping my son sort all his legos. When I was a kid, back when the dinasaurs roamed, I had perhaps a dozen distinct Lego shapes to worry about. Now there are so many that I'm sometimes at a loss as to how to categorize and sort them. The worst is when my son pulls out instructions for some Lego toy he bought a year ago, points to his bin with a full Gigablock of Legos, and wants me to help him put together whatever it is. Hence, I've decided to help him sort things out a bit. He might even have a Terablock, I'm afraid to count. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
I've said it before and I'll say it again...coding for RDB was a dream. Instead of having to rely on a preparser, there was a separate "compiler" that tokenized your SQL code into a object module to be linked with your program(s). Aside from making program maintenance potentially easier, it also allowed language independant so you could code in MACRO, BLISS, Ada, BASIC, C, FORTRAN, or even Mladen's favorite, COBOL. Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Monday, November 24, 2003, 3:49:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: rcn> I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. Rdb was the database I cut my teeth on. So easy to use. As I recall, you could create a database with just the following: CREATE DATABASE; Everything, including the database name, would default. It was great, especially for learning on. Digital's online help was unsurpassed too. I learned a lot from that, and from their Rdb manual set. All Rdb's commands worked consistently and logically, and everything was so orthogonal. Heck, if you wanted to see what a table looked like, you just issued commands such as: SHOW TABLE SHOW TABLE /CONSTRAINTS (to see constraints too) SHOW TABLE /INDEXES /CONSTRAINTS SHOW TABLE /ALL (to see everything) I recall beginning my database education by tying HELP RDB at the operating system, and then progressing from there. Typing HELP from within RDB's interactive-SQL utility was sheer joy. One of the first things I did when I made the move to Oracle was to fire up SQL*Plus and issue the SHOW TABLE command to see the structure of a table I was trying to insert into. I was baffled that there was no such command. HELP SHOW didn't help much either, because I discovered that SHOW seemed to show a whole bunch of things I didn't care about and nothing that I did care about. I was even more astounded when I discovered DISPLAY, which didn't, and still doesn't, even begin to give you the information you needed in order to be able to get work done with a table. It took me over a day, as I recall, before I managed to find someone who could show me how to look at constraints on a table. I'd heard all these great and wonderful things about Oracle, that it was *the* database to learn. Well, from a career standpoint that's probably true, Oracle was the database to learn, but certainly not from a usability standpoint. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
Same opinion here, my company is in the process of migrating our software to run on Oracle 9iR2. Currently, we have over 325 production sites that have RDB databases running. RDB is a single schema database so each customer site has multiple databases running. Very easy to manage, backup and yes recover. RDB has always had the cost based optimizer. Logminer has been around for a long time and the backup utility (RMU) supposedly has links to RMAN. As with everything Digital, great technology, crappy marketing, sold to someone who wants the technologies. If it weren't limited to the VMS platform (no flames, I love VMS) it would have a much bigger installation base. Back to the grind...(What was that Unix/Oracle command to...) Scott Graves Sr. Systems Programmer NISC RDQ-STP Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 636-922-9122 x7616 Fax: 636-922-2080 -Original Message- Jonathan Gennick Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Monday, November 24, 2003, 3:49:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: rcn> I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. Rdb was the database I cut my teeth on. So easy to use. As I recall, you could create a database with just the following: CREATE DATABASE; Everything, including the database name, would default. It was great, especially for learning on. Digital's online help was unsurpassed too. I learned a lot from that, and from their Rdb manual set. All Rdb's commands worked consistently and logically, and everything was so orthogonal. Heck, if you wanted to see what a table looked like, you just issued commands such as: SHOW TABLE SHOW TABLE /CONSTRAINTS (to see constraints too) SHOW TABLE /INDEXES /CONSTRAINTS SHOW TABLE /ALL (to see everything) I recall beginning my database education by tying HELP RDB at the operating system, and then progressing from there. Typing HELP from within RDB's interactive-SQL utility was sheer joy. One of the first things I did when I made the move to Oracle was to fire up SQL*Plus and issue the SHOW TABLE command to see the structure of a table I was trying to insert into. I was baffled that there was no such command. HELP SHOW didn't help much either, because I discovered that SHOW seemed to show a whole bunch of things I didn't care about and nothing that I did care about. I was even more astounded when I discovered DISPLAY, which didn't, and still doesn't, even begin to give you the information you needed in order to be able to get work done with a table. It took me over a day, as I recall, before I managed to find someone who could show me how to look at constraints on a table. I'd heard all these great and wonderful things about Oracle, that it was *the* database to learn. Well, from a career standpoint that's probably true, Oracle was the database to learn, but certainly not from a usability standpoint. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the Oracle-article list and receive one article on Oracle technologies per month by email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the word "subscribe" in either the subject or body. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Scott Graves INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
I heard that Lego is one a big user of RDB. Don't know if it's true. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I believe it *is* still sold; it is certainly still supported. As to why you would buy it, I don't know why anyone would have bought it when Digital was at its prime. I've never liked it. But, it is secure. As of 1993, it was rated B1, when no other database was higher than C2 (they were bound to the operating system to provide security). I think Oracle ingested Rdb's internals and it became Trusted Oracle; but, if you want the Real McCoy, you want Rdb. Of course, if you *really* want the Real McCoy, you need VMS, too (which is rated in the A's with the duplicate password and the generate password and the min password length features). Due to a sudden reversal of earth and sky, VMS is available exclusively from HP. Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM > RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. > > -Original Message- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tony Johnson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
> up, so rather than develop it, they bought it outright. They have been > telling Digital/Compaq/HP's clients that they were not going to desupport it > for years, and lots of folks didn't believe them, but, they've lived up to > their words, and even did some development on Rdb (taking it from v5 all the > way to v7, I think). I think RDB has it importance now, for persuading PeopleSoft customers Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
Hi! > Rdb was the database I cut my teeth on. So easy to use. As I > recall, you could create a database with just the following: > > CREATE DATABASE; > > Everything, including the database name, would default. It > was great, especially for learning on. BTW, you can do this in 9i as well... Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
Monday, November 24, 2003, 3:49:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: rcn> I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. Rdb was the database I cut my teeth on. So easy to use. As I recall, you could create a database with just the following: CREATE DATABASE; Everything, including the database name, would default. It was great, especially for learning on. Digital's online help was unsurpassed too. I learned a lot from that, and from their Rdb manual set. All Rdb's commands worked consistently and logically, and everything was so orthogonal. Heck, if you wanted to see what a table looked like, you just issued commands such as: SHOW TABLE SHOW TABLE /CONSTRAINTS (to see constraints too) SHOW TABLE /INDEXES /CONSTRAINTS SHOW TABLE /ALL (to see everything) I recall beginning my database education by tying HELP RDB at the operating system, and then progressing from there. Typing HELP from within RDB's interactive-SQL utility was sheer joy. One of the first things I did when I made the move to Oracle was to fire up SQL*Plus and issue the SHOW TABLE command to see the structure of a table I was trying to insert into. I was baffled that there was no such command. HELP SHOW didn't help much either, because I discovered that SHOW seemed to show a whole bunch of things I didn't care about and nothing that I did care about. I was even more astounded when I discovered DISPLAY, which didn't, and still doesn't, even begin to give you the information you needed in order to be able to get work done with a table. It took me over a day, as I recall, before I managed to find someone who could show me how to look at constraints on a table. I'd heard all these great and wonderful things about Oracle, that it was *the* database to learn. Well, from a career standpoint that's probably true, Oracle was the database to learn, but certainly not from a usability standpoint. Best regards, Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are http://Gennick.com * 906.387.1698 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Join the Oracle-article list and receive one article on Oracle technologies per month by email. To join, visit http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/oracle-article, or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the word "subscribe" in either the subject or body. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Gennick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
It's still on the price list. Download the latest price list from Oracle and search for "rdb" - it's on page 4 out of 9. $40K per cpu - just like Oracle EE. Trusted Oracle, to my knowledge, had nothing to do with Rdb. Lots of useful stuff came into the Oracle code from the Digital guys. Bellow, Bambi wrote: I believe it *is* still sold; it is certainly still supported. As to why you would buy it, I don't know why anyone would have bought it when Digital was at its prime. I've never liked it. But, it is secure. As of 1993, it was rated B1, when no other database was higher than C2 (they were bound to the operating system to provide security). I think Oracle ingested Rdb's internals and it became Trusted Oracle; but, if you want the Real McCoy, you want Rdb. Of course, if you *really* want the Real McCoy, you need VMS, too (which is rated in the A's with the duplicate password and the generate password and the min password length features). Due to a sudden reversal of earth and sky, VMS is available exclusively from HP. Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tony Johnson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
I believe it *is* still sold; it is certainly still supported. As to why you would buy it, I don't know why anyone would have bought it when Digital was at its prime. I've never liked it. But, it is secure. As of 1993, it was rated B1, when no other database was higher than C2 (they were bound to the operating system to provide security). I think Oracle ingested Rdb's internals and it became Trusted Oracle; but, if you want the Real McCoy, you want Rdb. Of course, if you *really* want the Real McCoy, you need VMS, too (which is rated in the A's with the duplicate password and the generate password and the min password length features). Due to a sudden reversal of earth and sky, VMS is available exclusively from HP. Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM > RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. > > -Original Message- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tony Johnson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
Yes Oracle still sells it. Yes they still develop it - new versions released regularly with new features. It's integrated with VMS, had clustering for many years, support for Galaxy, existing applications etc See http://www.oracle.com/rdb/ & http://www.jcc.com/ and more Bruce NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are private and confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not an authorised recipient, the copying or distribution of this e-mail and any attachments is prohibited and you must not read, print or act in reliance on this e-mail or attachments. This notice should not be removed. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2003 8:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM > RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. > > -Original Message- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
RDB is rdbms (just another rdbms supported by Oracle corp.) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Ryan Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 4:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM > RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. > > -Original Message- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tony Johnson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Igor Neyman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: what is oracle rdb?
does oracle still sell it? why would you buy it over the rdbms? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:59 PM > RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. > > -Original Message- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tony Johnson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
Rdb was Digital's database that was coupled with the VMS operating system in v5 and beyond. It was bought by Oracle in the late nineties because they wanted a foray into the secure database environment, and Rdb had it all sewn up, so rather than develop it, they bought it outright. They have been telling Digital/Compaq/HP's clients that they were not going to desupport it for years, and lots of folks didn't believe them, but, they've lived up to their words, and even did some development on Rdb (taking it from v5 all the way to v7, I think). IMNSHO, not one of the best features of VMS, but hey, it lived longer than Digital did, so what the hell. HTH, Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Bellow, Bambi INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
It's another RDBMS... only runs on OpenVMS VAX and Aplha. Used to be owned by DEC and sold to Oracle a few years back (quite a few years now). Has many features in common with Oracle Server some of which originally came from Oracle Rdb and were implemented later on in Oracle Server. Ken. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 3:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Fowler, Kenneth R INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: what is oracle rdb?
RDB was bought from Digital Corporation many years ago. Supposedly a lot of the CBO was lifted from it. -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I see it referred to on metalink alot. I know its seperate from the rdbms. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tony Johnson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
