Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
To steal a quote from Matt Adam's white board (sorry Matt!): You gotta stop thinking logically, and start thinking Oracley - Jim Droppa Don Granaman [OraSaurus] - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:00 PM Rachel, I agree with your statement but since you used the word logically , I questioned the workings of Oracle and why or how they do things. [...] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Don Granaman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Upgrade to 9iR2 today. Rename column does not work in 9.0.1. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 9:30 PM If those times are right... its a functionality you should not live without, its a direct money saver. Upgrade to 9i today! hats off to Oracle marketing... if and when the database sales lose traction... we will release RENAME COLUMN... and 20 years later... here it is. Keith Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:41:32 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null? Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Keith Peterson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
An upgrade wouldn't cost anything. It would be free as part of your support contract. Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 2:41 AM Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Hemant, The price I am referring to is the cost involved with moving from a Dell server on Novell to a Compaq OpenVMS server. There are a lot of company sided issues that have to be addressed and cases made for the move. In this case the software is not an issues as you stated, the issues revolve around the hardware and developmental considerations. I would be more that happy to move to the latest and greatest solid platform/database combination. It would allow us to create and implement browser based applications rather easily and would allow us to use the 9iAS Suite of products. For now all I can do is make requests for item to be included in the budget as we move forward, backwards, sideways, dance on circles. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 09:38AM An upgrade wouldn't cost anything. It would be free as part of your support contract. Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 2:41 AM Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
The bane of trying to keep up with technology. But why OpenVMS and not Tru64, then. We have a large number of Tru64 Oracle Databases (we do have OpenVMSs for Promis databases used in manufacturing, I believe). Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 11:03 PM Hemant, The price I am referring to is the cost involved with moving from a Dell server on Novell to a Compaq OpenVMS server. There are a lot of company sided issues that have to be addressed and cases made for the move. In this case the software is not an issues as you stated, the issues revolve around the hardware and developmental considerations. I would be more that happy to move to the latest and greatest solid platform/database combination. It would allow us to create and implement browser based applications rather easily and would allow us to use the 9iAS Suite of products. For now all I can do is make requests for item to be included in the budget as we move forward, backwards, sideways, dance on circles. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 09:38AM An upgrade wouldn't cost anything. It would be free as part of your support contract. Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 2:41 AM Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron
RE: Rename Column in 9iR2
Hermat - We are on Tru64 and I couldn't be more pleased. However, I believe that HP/Compaq has decided to eventually withdraw Tru64. My guess is that is so they can support HPUX. However, they were pretty clear that OpenVMS would continue. My guess is that Ron is hinting that there are other reasons to move to VMS at his company. Just sign me as learning Solaris. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The bane of trying to keep up with technology. But why OpenVMS and not Tru64, then. We have a large number of Tru64 Oracle Databases (we do have OpenVMSs for Promis databases used in manufacturing, I believe). Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 11:03 PM Hemant, The price I am referring to is the cost involved with moving from a Dell server on Novell to a Compaq OpenVMS server. There are a lot of company sided issues that have to be addressed and cases made for the move. In this case the software is not an issues as you stated, the issues revolve around the hardware and developmental considerations. I would be more that happy to move to the latest and greatest solid platform/database combination. It would allow us to create and implement browser based applications rather easily and would allow us to use the 9iAS Suite of products. For now all I can do is make requests for item to be included in the budget as we move forward, backwards, sideways, dance on circles. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 09:38AM An upgrade wouldn't cost anything. It would be free as part of your support contract. Hemant K Chitale - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 May, 2002 2:41 AM Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego,
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Hemant, Being an ol unix admin I would like very much to use Tru64 but we have a lot of applications written for OpenVMS that would have to be converted and then there would be the issue of sysadmin training or hire and licensing issues and costs. These all cost $$$ and we are an institution that has to return a minimum sales % to the winner and the schooling endeavors. Besides I think it will be exiting and challenging to learn a new system. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 12:28PM The bane of trying to keep up with technology. But why OpenVMS and not Tru64, then. We have a large number of Tru64 Oracle Databases (we do have OpenVMSs for Promis databases used in manufacturing, I believe). Hemant K Chitale -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Ron - I have my VMS env set similar to my unix env. I use vms symbols to match unix aliae's/cmds, vms logicals to match unix env variables, vms dcl scripts to match unix ksh scripts. Even have a crontab dcl script that works much like unix cron (well almost :)). I have 1 dcl script for all batch scheduling. VMS is fun, just wish there were more companies using it. Strange to see companies considering to start using VMS. Usually they go w/ W2K or Unix. Old oracle licensing is cheaper on VMS. Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 02:32PM Hemant, Being an ol unix admin I would like very much to use Tru64 but we have a lot of applications written for OpenVMS that would have to be converted and then there would be the issue of sysadmin training or hire and licensing issues and costs. These all cost $$$ and we are an institution that has to return a minimum sales % to the winner and the schooling endeavors. Besides I think it will be exiting and challenging to learn a new system. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 12:28PM The bane of trying to keep up with technology. But why OpenVMS and not Tru64, then. We have a large number of Tru64 Oracle Databases (we do have OpenVMSs for Promis databases used in manufacturing, I believe). Hemant K Chitale -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gene Sais INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
wish this had come about 20 years ago, as it would have saved us approx. 2 man years of dev. time (conservative estimate). Considering all 9i enhancements... this feature should weigh in at well over 25% Keith Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 06:38:37 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null? Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Keith Peterson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rename Column in 9iR2
I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Ron, I can't test it here, but logically it seems it shouldn't matter if there is data in the column or not as column_name is NOT stored within the table itself but within the data dictionary. Rachel --- Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Rename Column in 9iR2
Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services
Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
Rachel, I agree with your statement but since you used the word logically , I questioned the workings of Oracle and why or how they do things. If I remember correctly you had to make a column unusable before you could drop it. It didn't make sense to me. Why not just drop the column and clean the data up at the next export/import/reorg or leave the data in the table and ignore the space used but not seen. There have been a few tips and hints listed on this list about making changes in the Oracle tables to accomplish desired tasks that were not supported by Oracle. Perhaps this is such an item that Oracle has decided to support after testing. I heard rumors of a future publication that is based on the tips and hints that accomplish what Oracle can not do with normal commands, but they work properly. Perhaps such a publication will help convince Oracle to test and incorporate them in release 10.x. Thanks, Ron ROR mô¿ôm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:25PM Ron, I can't test it here, but logically it seems it shouldn't matter if there is data in the column or not as column_name is NOT stored within the table itself but within the data dictionary. Rachel --- Ron Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null?Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information in this electronic mail message is Trilegiant Confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee(s). Access to this Internet electronic mail message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. Trilegiant Corporation is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Toepke, Kevin M INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include
RE: Rename Column in 9iR2
If those times are right... its a functionality you should not live without, its a direct money saver. Upgrade to 9i today! hats off to Oracle marketing... if and when the database sales lose traction... we will release RENAME COLUMN... and 20 years later... here it is. Keith Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:41:32 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California Kevin, I appreciate your testing efforts. Now to convince the bean-counters to upgrate to 9i. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 02:08PM I reran my test. with 250,000 rows in the table. It took a whopping 0.25 seconds to complete. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kevin, Yes but does it work with data in the column?, I do not have 9i set up yet. If it works as you describe with data in the column it will really help with the multi million row tables that they want to rename a column after a release of a new lotto game. thanks, for the test and update. Ron ROR mª¿ªm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:38AM Summary: it works! SQL SELECT * FROM v$version; BANNER Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production PL/SQL Release 9.2.0.1.0 - Production CORE9.2.0.1.0 Production TNS for Solaris: Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production NLSRTL Version 9.2.0.1.0 - Production SQL create table test_table (wrong_name VARCHAR2(40)); Table created. SQL alter table test_table rename column wrong_name to right_name; Table altered. SQL desc test_table; Name Null? Type - RIGHT_NAME VARCHAR2(40) SQL Kevin Toepke [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Keith Peterson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
