RE: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
Another good one is DBA_TAB_COLUMNS. Check the tables listed in it with the tables listed in DBA_TABLES. When faced with a similar situation, do a little detective work. Since these are views, you can examine the query that generates the view. This information is in DBA_VIEWS. Compare the queries, perhaps even examine the underlying tables (be careful) and learn something about the Oracle data dictionary and how the kernel functions. Dan Fink -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Some of the system views have a lot going on under the covers, and sometimes don't act the way you would expect. Compare ALL_TABLES and DBA_TABLES sometime. They work pretty much the same from the command line for a user that has DBA privs. In a stored procedure however, ALL_TABLES suddenly becomes very restrictive due to this bit of code in the view: or /* user has system privileges */ exists (select null from v$enabledprivs where priv_number in (-45 /* LOCK ANY TABLE */, -47 /* SELECT ANY TABLE */, -48 /* INSERT ANY TABLE */, -49 /* UPDATE ANY TABLE */, -50 /* DELETE ANY TABLE */) ) ) Jared Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/2003 08:44 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES Keith, yes, it's regular behaviour that the TS$ entry remains but the discrepancy between those 2 views is a bug which is fixed in 8.0.6. Basically, DBA_TABLESPACES excludes 'INVALID' tablespaces but USER_TABLESPACES doesn't. There are duplicates for the bug. The numbers are 284887, 553723 and 546913. regards, Mike Hately -Original Message- Sent: 14 January 2003 15:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm still confused. They are not in DBA_TABLESPACES, only USER_TABLESPACES. Keith - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:34 PM Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now) Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http
Re: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
I'm still confused. They are not in DBA_TABLESPACES, only USER_TABLESPACES.Keith- Original Message - From: "Stephane Faroult" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:34 PMSubject: Re: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now)Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that your access is unauthorized, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message including any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
RE: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
Keith, yes, it's regular behaviour that the TS$ entry remains but the discrepancy between those 2 views is a bug which is fixed in 8.0.6. Basically, DBA_TABLESPACES excludes 'INVALID' tablespaces but USER_TABLESPACES doesn't. There are duplicates for the bug. The numbers are 284887, 553723 and 546913. regards, Mike Hately -Original Message- Sent: 14 January 2003 15:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm still confused. They are not in DBA_TABLESPACES, only USER_TABLESPACES. Keith - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:34 PM Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now) Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
Keith Moore wrote: I'm still confused. They are not in DBA_TABLESPACES, only USER_TABLESPACES. Keith Because DBA_TABLESPACES filters them out. Try select name, online$ from sys.ts$ and you'll see them with online$ = 3 (out of memory). - Original Message - From: Stephane Faroult [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Re: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now) Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
Some of the system views have a lot going on under the covers, and sometimes don't act the way you would expect. Compare ALL_TABLES and DBA_TABLES sometime. They work pretty much the same from the command line for a user that has DBA privs. In a stored procedure however, ALL_TABLES suddenly becomes very restrictive due to this bit of code in the view: or /* user has system privileges */ exists (select null from v$enabledprivs where priv_number in (-45 /* LOCK ANY TABLE */, -47 /* SELECT ANY TABLE */, -48 /* INSERT ANY TABLE */, -49 /* UPDATE ANY TABLE */, -50 /* DELETE ANY TABLE */) ) ) Jared Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/2003 08:44 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES Keith, yes, it's regular behaviour that the TS$ entry remains but the discrepancy between those 2 views is a bug which is fixed in 8.0.6. Basically, DBA_TABLESPACES excludes 'INVALID' tablespaces but USER_TABLESPACES doesn't. There are duplicates for the bug. The numbers are 284887, 553723 and 546913. regards, Mike Hately -Original Message- Sent: 14 January 2003 15:34 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm still confused. They are not in DBA_TABLESPACES, only USER_TABLESPACES. Keith - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:34 PM Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now) Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hately, Mike (NESL-IT) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: USER_TABLESPACES has more rows than DBA_TABLESPACES
Keith Moore wrote: Has anyone else seen this or can you explain it? I have 7 tablespaces in USER_TABLESPACES that don't exist in DBA_TABLESPACES. These have been dropped, but somehow did not disappear from USER_TABLESPACES. They have a status of INVALID. The database is version 8.0.5 (Yeah, I know, we'll be going to 9i real soon now) Keith Regular behaviour. Rows are never deleted from sys.ts$ (on which DBA_TABLESPACES is based). -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
