Re: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-04 Thread jkstill


SQL-Backtrack was a good product at one time.  In theory it still is.

Here's the problem though. When Data Tools sold SQL-Backtrack to BMC,
it seems that anyone that knew anything about the product left.

There is no one in tech support that can help you beyond the menu
items.  There is no one there that knows how to run their product
from the command line.

Some recovery scenarios require command line operation, and wouldn't
you know, we lost a database at a former employer for that very reason.

Jared

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Yttri, Lisa wrote:

 Hi everyone -

 Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and hot
 backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode.  We are running
 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris.  Today there are only a
 few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are anticipating a couple
 large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse (anticipated to be around 500GB).

 We have started playing around with Recovery Manager.  Our Sybase DBAs are
 telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

 For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your comments on
 how well you like / don't like it and any "gotcha's" that you have run into.
 Other than the cost factor, what would you recommend?

 Thanks very much -
 Lisa



Jared Still
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Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-03 Thread Yttri, Lisa
Title: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track





Hi everyone -


Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and hot backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode. We are running 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris. Today there are only a few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are anticipating a couple large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse (anticipated to be around 500GB). 

We have started playing around with Recovery Manager. Our Sybase DBAs are telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your comments on how well you like / don't like it and any gotcha's that you have run into. Other than the cost factor, what would you recommend?

Thanks very much -
Lisa





Re: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-03 Thread Ruth Gramolini

I have used rman exclusively since I became an Oracle DBA because it was
there and I needed a backup strategy.  It has gotten better with later
releases.  We are now on 8.0.6.  It used Oracle internals so that is an
advantage. It comes free with Oracle so that is another advantage.

I can send you a paper on why to love rman written by Francis Sanchez of
Oracle Corp.  if you need it.  I can't send an attachment through the list.

Regards,
Ruth
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 Hi everyone -

 Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and hot
 backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode.  We are running
 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris.  Today there are only a
 few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are anticipating a couple
 large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse (anticipated to be around
500GB).

 We have started playing around with Recovery Manager.  Our Sybase DBAs are
 telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

 For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your comments on
 how well you like / don't like it and any "gotcha's" that you have run
into.
 Other than the cost factor, what would you recommend?

 Thanks very much -
 Lisa


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Re: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-03 Thread Gene Sais

Send it through the list.  I would like to see it also.  Thanks.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/01 11:56AM 
I have used rman exclusively since I became an Oracle DBA because it was
there and I needed a backup strategy.  It has gotten better with later
releases.  We are now on 8.0.6.  It used Oracle internals so that is an
advantage. It comes free with Oracle so that is another advantage.

I can send you a paper on why to love rman written by Francis Sanchez of
Oracle Corp.  if you need it.  I can't send an attachment through the list.

Regards,
Ruth
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Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:45 AM


 Hi everyone -

 Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and hot
 backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode.  We are running
 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris.  Today there are only a
 few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are anticipating a couple
 large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse (anticipated to be around
500GB).

 We have started playing around with Recovery Manager.  Our Sybase DBAs are
 telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

 For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your comments on
 how well you like / don't like it and any "gotcha's" that you have run
into.
 Other than the cost factor, what would you recommend?

 Thanks very much -
 Lisa


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Re: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-03 Thread Terry Ball

We currently use SQL BackTrack on both Solaris boxes where our interface
to tape software is netware.  To put it mildly, netware sucks.  When we
were going to disk SQL BackTrack worked like a charm.  On our other
system - AIX - our interface is ADSM.  It too has worked like a charm.
If you can stay away from using SQL BackTrack with netware's obsi
interface, go for it.   Otherwise, stay as far away as you can.

Terry

"Yttri, Lisa" wrote:



 Hi everyone -

 Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and
 hot backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode.  We are
 running 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris.  Today
 there are only a few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are
 anticipating a couple large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse
 (anticipated to be around 500GB).

 We have started playing around with Recovery Manager.  Our Sybase DBAs
 are telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

 For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your
 comments on how well you like / don't like it and any "gotcha's" that
 you have run into.  Other than the cost factor, what would you
 recommend?

 Thanks very much -
 Lisa

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RE: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track

2001-04-03 Thread Brian MacLean
Title: RE: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track





I have worked with manual scripting, EBU, RMAN, and SQLBackTrack.


If you can afford it, use SQLBackTrack. It's idiot proof for both backup and restore if you set it up right. (trust me).

If you have other questions email me direct.


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-Original Message-
From: Yttri, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:46 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Recovery Manager vs. SQL Back Track



Hi everyone - 
Currently we are doing backups manually, periodic cold backups, and hot backups in between - we are running in archivelog mode. We are running 8.1.5 and 8.1.6 (soon to be 8.1.7) on Sun Solaris. Today there are only a few small production servers (2 - 5 GB), but we are anticipating a couple large ones (~200GB), and a data warehouse (anticipated to be around 500GB). 

We have started playing around with Recovery Manager. Our Sybase DBAs are telling us we should look at SQL BackTrack instead.

For those of you who are using either one, I'd appreciate your comments on how well you like / don't like it and any gotcha's that you have run into. Other than the cost factor, what would you recommend?

Thanks very much - 
Lisa