Re: Size of Oracle server processes

2002-07-17 Thread Tim Gorman

Exactly.  Each process is carrying two separate UGAs and PGAs in the server
process's "heap" area, which is a data segment.  Does HPUX have a "pmap"
utility, as can be found in Solaris and Linux?  It does a great job of
breaking down a process into the distinct code and data segments.  I don't
know "glance" very well, so I can visualize what your seeing...

If you're inclined to test this effect, you can implement multiple
connections using OCI or PRO*C in a test program.  On Oracle8i software
installs, there is an OCI demo program named "cdemoses.c" in the directory
"$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/demo" which creates two connections from the same
program.  I don't know exactly what it does, but it could be something to
compile/link quick and see if the effect is duplicated...

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> Tim,
> I think your observation is correct, every Apps logon
> does create two sessions. How is that affecting the
> size of the server process? Do you mean the size is
> the sum of the two sessions? In glance, most of the
> memory size came out of the data segment of the
> process.
> Jos
>
> --- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a
> pure guess, and I don't have my own
> > OraApps system to check it upon first, so this might
> > be embarrassing, but here goes...
> >
> > Often I see 2 sessions started for every dedicated
> > server process when Oracle Forms is in use with
> > Oracle Apps, from R10.7 on up.  I think the
> > Jinitiator applet is creating the second session
> > associated with the process.  To verify this, you
> > could try running the following query and see if it
> > returns two rows instead of one:
> >   selectsid, serial#, username, osuser, process
> >   from   v$session
> >   where paddr in (select addr from v$process
> >  where spid =
> > )
> > Plug in the PID for the server process into
> > "" where you are seeing the
> > large RSS.  If you do get two rows back from the
> > query, then this might be an explanation for the
> > increased size?
> >
> > Hope this helps...
> >
> > -Tim
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Jos Someone
> >   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:18 PM
> >   Subject: Size of Oracle server processes
> >
> >
> >   I have a question to ask regarding Oracle server
> > process (oracle) size. We have just installed
> > Oracle Apps 11i, while monitoring the system using
> > glance, I notice something strange, the oracle
> > server processes - process which has a name
> > oracle has a very big RSS size in glance, these
> > processes were associated with the f60webmx
> > processes. I was curious about the size of it,
> > normally these processes are about 2-3M big. I did a
> > quick test by logging on to the database using
> > sqlplus and observe the size of the oracle server
> > process, it showed  a size of 2M. So why the
> > oracle processes size is so big where they are
> > assoicated with f60webmx, is it something special
> > about them? Or the RSS size shown in glance is
> > doubling up on something?
> >
> >   Jos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Size of Oracle server processes

2002-07-17 Thread Jos Someone

Tim,
I think your observation is correct, every Apps logon
does create two sessions. How is that affecting the
size of the server process? Do you mean the size is
the sum of the two sessions? In glance, most of the
memory size came out of the data segment of the
process.
Jos
 
--- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a
pure guess, and I don't have my own
> OraApps system to check it upon first, so this might
> be embarrassing, but here goes...
> 
> Often I see 2 sessions started for every dedicated
> server process when Oracle Forms is in use with
> Oracle Apps, from R10.7 on up.  I think the
> Jinitiator applet is creating the second session
> associated with the process.  To verify this, you
> could try running the following query and see if it
> returns two rows instead of one:
>   selectsid, serial#, username, osuser, process
>   from   v$session
>   where paddr in (select addr from v$process
>  where spid =
> )
> Plug in the PID for the server process into
> "" where you are seeing the
> large RSS.  If you do get two rows back from the
> query, then this might be an explanation for the
> increased size?
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> -Tim
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jos Someone 
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
>   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:18 PM
>   Subject: Size of Oracle server processes
> 
> 
>   I have a question to ask regarding Oracle server
> process (oracle) size. We have just installed
> Oracle Apps 11i, while monitoring the system using
> glance, I notice something strange, the oracle
> server processes - process which has a name
> oracle has a very big RSS size in glance, these
> processes were associated with the f60webmx
> processes. I was curious about the size of it,
> normally these processes are about 2-3M big. I did a
> quick test by logging on to the database using
> sqlplus and observe the size of the oracle server
> process, it showed  a size of 2M. So why the
> oracle processes size is so big where they are
> assoicated with f60webmx, is it something special
> about them? Or the RSS size shown in glance is
> doubling up on something?
> 
>   Jos
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: Size of Oracle server processes

2002-07-15 Thread Tim Gorman



This is a pure guess, and I don't have my own 
OraApps system to check it upon first, so this might be embarrassing, but here 
goes...
 
Often I see 2 sessions started for every dedicated 
server process when Oracle Forms is in use with Oracle Apps, from R10.7 on 
up.  I think the Jinitiator applet is creating the second session 
associated with the process.  To verify this, you could try running the 
following query and see if it returns two rows instead of one:

  select    sid, serial#, username, 
  osuser, process
  from   
  v$session
  where paddr in (select 
  addr from v$process
     
  where spid = 
  )
Plug in the PID for the server process into 
"" where you are seeing the large RSS.  
If you do get two rows back from the query, then 
this might be an explanation for the increased size?
 
Hope this helps...
 
-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jos 
  Someone 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:18 PM
  Subject: Size of Oracle server 
  processes
  
  I have a question to ask regarding Oracle server process 
  (oracle) size. We have just installed Oracle Apps 11i, while 
  monitoring the system using glance, I notice something strange, the oracle 
  server processes - process which has a name oracle has a very big 
  RSS size in glance, these processes were associated with the f60webmx 
  processes. I was curious about the size of it, normally these processes are 
  about 2-3M big. I did a quick test by logging on to the database using sqlplus 
  and observe the size of the oracle server process, it showed  a size 
  of 2M. So why the oracle processes size is so big where they are 
  assoicated with f60webmx, is it something special about them? Or the RSS size 
  shown in glance is doubling up on something?
  Jos
   
  
  
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Size of Oracle server processes

2002-07-15 Thread Jos Someone
I have a question to ask regarding Oracle server process (oracle) size. We have just installed Oracle Apps 11i, while monitoring the system using glance, I notice something strange, the oracle server processes - process which has a name oracle has a very big RSS size in glance, these processes were associated with the f60webmx processes. I was curious about the size of it, normally these processes are about 2-3M big. I did a quick test by logging on to the database using sqlplus and observe the size of the oracle server process, it showed  a size of 2M. So why the oracle processes size is so big where they are assoicated with f60webmx, is it something special about them? Or the RSS size shown in glance is doubling up on something?
Jos
 
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