l'market / RE: Metalink Response ....FYI

2001-04-04 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Waiting is probably good.

Besides knowing a couple of investment advisors (fellow soccer/little 
league dads, members of theology study study groups, and so forth), I 
try to listen to Louis Rukeyser's show on PBS every week 
(http://www.pbs.org/mpt/rukeyser), and as much of Bob Brinker's 
weekend radio show (http://www.bobbrinker.com) as possible. Don't 
have time to read WSJ or any of that.  

The "pro exuberance" investment cable shows that spring up during the 
tech bubble have been severely criticized for not following 
appropriate ethical practices about revealing the connections between 
the stock recommendations of the "analysts" that are on the shows, 
and the companies themselves (much less the connections between the 
giant media corps that own cable and the corps being recommended). 
What a mess.  

Anyway, conventional wisdom appears to be that no on knows what the 
heck is going to happen to the economy in the second half of the 
year. They say that *eventually* there are going to be some 
outstanding values in tech stocks (minus the "irrational exuberance", 
and that long term outlook for growth of the tech sector is 
excellent), but predicting the bottom for the whole sector or market 
is obviously very tough, much less any specific stock.  

Obviously the idea that there is a "new economy" (tech economy) that 
is somehow largely independent of the "old economy" has been shown, 
in the wake of the idiocy and madness that led to collapse the "dot 
com" phenomena, to have been both a form of collective hypnosis and 
yet another act by cynical market exploiters (whose business 
practices are at best ethically questionable, and IMO, legally little 
more than legally sanctioned thievery) such as short sale and "pump 
and dump" artists.  

The classic source of info: http://www.morningstar.com 

Note: they have several links to info on the tech sector on
their main page.

happy investing (or not, as the case may be),
ep

On 4 Apr 2001, at 8:01, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

Date sent:  Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:01:09 -0800
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...
 
 I thought that a bit a diversifying (investing in the U.S. as well as
 Canada) might not be a bad thing, esp. if solid companies are currently
 undervalued.
 
 I can wait though -- no rush.

...


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RE: l'market / RE: Metalink Response ....FYI

2001-04-04 Thread Eric D. Pierce

example:

http://news.morningstar.com/doc/article/0,1,4382,00.html?hSection=fromAnalysts

---excerpt---
...

One Hand Washes the Other

I was talking to a reporter a couple of days ago about some upcoming
accounting changes that could potentially boost some companies' reported
earnings by changing the way they account for merger costs. She mentioned
that she'd seen a study that predicted a wave of increased merger and
acquisition activity as a result of this change, since companies' earnings
wouldn't be as affected by merger-related accounting charges.

It turns out that this study had been done by a major investment bank--which
makes more than a small amount of money from advising companies on mergers
and acquisitions. By itself this wouldn't be too remarkable, since
investment banks' proclivity for producing self-serving research is well
known. However, there's a little bit more to the story that makes this
pretty funny.

First, the proposed accounting changes have to do with the way companies
account for what's called "goodwill," which is the amount of the purchase
price paid by an acquiring firm above and beyond the target firm's book
value. This amount is generally charged off against earnings over a period
of time, but the charge is purely an accounting one--it doesn't mean that
the company has seen cash flow out the door. Moreover, study after study has
shown that investors tend to "look through" accounting changes like this,
and base their investment decision on the true economic--rather than
accounting--effects of mergers.

So, it seems to me that asserting that MA activity will increase just
because of an accounting change isn't a tenable argument. In any case, you
don't have to take my word for it--take Wall Street's.

This is where things get fun. During the dot-com boom, most Wall Street
analysts were adding back goodwill and other merger-related charges when
making their earnings estimates, effectively saying that those noncash
charges weren't very important in assessing companies' performance. (Enough
analysts were doing this, in fact, that First Call starting collecting "cash
earnings" estimates for a number of Internet companies.)

So last year, Wall Street was saying that noncash merger charges don't
really matter, and basing its estimates around this idea. Now, a respected
Wall Street firm is saying that these merger charges are so darned important
that companies will be more inclined to do acquisitions once the charges
aren't so onerous. Can’t have it both ways, folks. Either investors should
pay attention to goodwill charges, or they shouldn't. Which is it?

...


Pat Dorsey is director of stock analysis for Morningstar.com. He can be
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Pat Dorsey does not own shares in any of the stocks mentioned above.


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RE: l'market / RE: Metalink Response ....FYI

2001-04-04 Thread Eric D. Pierce

another example:

http://www.tcwgroup.com/press4.shtml
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This guy was on Rukeyser's show several weeks ago, and 
reportedly has a knack for picking good tech stocks amidst 
the rubble:

http://www.tcwgroup.com/bios/bickerstaff_glen.htm


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http://news.morningstar.com/news/Wire/0,1230,3664,00.html
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http://quicktake.morningstar.com/Fund/Snapshot.asp?Country=USASymbol=TGCEXhsection=
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http://socialize.morningstar.com/NewSocialize/asp/FullConv.asp?forumId=1100106457convId=32402

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regards,
ep

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