Re: oaktable people

2004-01-18 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Can I also do what you did from the Tree House - in your garden, that is?

Mogens

Gary Goodman wrote:

I'm going to make Mogens clean my garage ... I'm sorry, I meant further
team building ... when he visits for the Symposium in March!
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Mogens Nørgaard
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:39 PM
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Lies, lies and viscious rumors. It was only the loft of the Garage, and 
the idea was to create a new, exciting space for the Oracle Museum, 
complete with webcams.

I had planned the Miracle Master Class Teambuilding Exercise as follows:

1. On Sunday evening we would (slowly!) move the stuff from the loft 
downstairs and stack it carefully.
2. On Monday evening we would put in the new flooring.
3. On Tuesday evening we would put the stacked stuff back up on the
loft.

As it turned out, it ended up a bit different from the original plan:

1. On Sunday it took the Oakies about 42 minutes to remove everything 
from the loft. Most of it was thrown out, and Peter Gram even had to 
rent a new trailer for the junk.
2. Lex and Carel-Jan and Gary Goodman and James Morle and Jon (from 
Miracle Iceland) were un-stopable and made 80% of the flooring on
Sunday.
3. On Monday Lex got the bright idea of doing some heavy changes to the 
whole construction of the Garage. Which he and Carel-Jan and helpers 
then did.
4. On Tuesday evening nobody did anything except participate in the Gala

Dinner and visit the famous hotdog stand Bjarne's Poelser.
5. I don't know when the stuff is going up there again. I'm afraid.
Mogens

PS: The Oakies rock. Nothing beats having 18 of them in your house.

Gudmundur Josepsson wrote:

 

Onkel Mogens wrote:



   

All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to).
Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to
bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...
  

 

You're not having them do construction work on your house again, are
   

you?
 

Gaja is probably the smart one, he knows what you're up to!  My guess
   

is
 

that 'teambuilding' is Danish for 'dig me a 12 x 25 m swimming pool in
   

my
 

back yard and paint my house while you're at it.'

Gummi



   

 

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-14 Thread Gary Goodman
I'm going to make Mogens clean my garage ... I'm sorry, I meant further
team building ... when he visits for the Symposium in March!

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-Original Message-
Mogens Nørgaard
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Lies, lies and viscious rumors. It was only the loft of the Garage, and 
the idea was to create a new, exciting space for the Oracle Museum, 
complete with webcams.

I had planned the Miracle Master Class Teambuilding Exercise as follows:

1. On Sunday evening we would (slowly!) move the stuff from the loft 
downstairs and stack it carefully.
2. On Monday evening we would put in the new flooring.
3. On Tuesday evening we would put the stacked stuff back up on the
loft.

As it turned out, it ended up a bit different from the original plan:

1. On Sunday it took the Oakies about 42 minutes to remove everything 
from the loft. Most of it was thrown out, and Peter Gram even had to 
rent a new trailer for the junk.
2. Lex and Carel-Jan and Gary Goodman and James Morle and Jon (from 
Miracle Iceland) were un-stopable and made 80% of the flooring on
Sunday.
3. On Monday Lex got the bright idea of doing some heavy changes to the 
whole construction of the Garage. Which he and Carel-Jan and helpers 
then did.
4. On Tuesday evening nobody did anything except participate in the Gala

Dinner and visit the famous hotdog stand Bjarne's Poelser.
5. I don't know when the stuff is going up there again. I'm afraid.

Mogens

PS: The Oakies rock. Nothing beats having 18 of them in your house.

Gudmundur Josepsson wrote:

Onkel Mogens wrote:

  

All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to).
Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to
bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...



You're not having them do construction work on your house again, are
you?
Gaja is probably the smart one, he knows what you're up to!  My guess
is
that 'teambuilding' is Danish for 'dig me a 12 x 25 m swimming pool in
my
back yard and paint my house while you're at it.'

Gummi

  


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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-13 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Lies, lies and viscious rumors. It was only the loft of the Garage, and 
the idea was to create a new, exciting space for the Oracle Museum, 
complete with webcams.

I had planned the Miracle Master Class Teambuilding Exercise as follows:

1. On Sunday evening we would (slowly!) move the stuff from the loft 
downstairs and stack it carefully.
2. On Monday evening we would put in the new flooring.
3. On Tuesday evening we would put the stacked stuff back up on the loft.

As it turned out, it ended up a bit different from the original plan:

1. On Sunday it took the Oakies about 42 minutes to remove everything 
from the loft. Most of it was thrown out, and Peter Gram even had to 
rent a new trailer for the junk.
2. Lex and Carel-Jan and Gary Goodman and James Morle and Jon (from 
Miracle Iceland) were un-stopable and made 80% of the flooring on Sunday.
3. On Monday Lex got the bright idea of doing some heavy changes to the 
whole construction of the Garage. Which he and Carel-Jan and helpers 
then did.
4. On Tuesday evening nobody did anything except participate in the Gala 
Dinner and visit the famous hotdog stand Bjarne's Poelser.
5. I don't know when the stuff is going up there again. I'm afraid.

Mogens

PS: The Oakies rock. Nothing beats having 18 of them in your house.

Gudmundur Josepsson wrote:

Onkel Mogens wrote:

 

All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to).
Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to
bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...
   

You're not having them do construction work on your house again, are you?
Gaja is probably the smart one, he knows what you're up to!  My guess is
that 'teambuilding' is Danish for 'dig me a 12 x 25 m swimming pool in my
back yard and paint my house while you're at it.'
Gummi

 

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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-09 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson
Onkel Mogens wrote:

 All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to).
 Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to
 bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...

You're not having them do construction work on your house again, are you?
Gaja is probably the smart one, he knows what you're up to!  My guess is
that 'teambuilding' is Danish for 'dig me a 12 x 25 m swimming pool in my
back yard and paint my house while you're at it.'

Gummi

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Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-09 Thread Gudmundur Josepsson
Onkel Mogens wrote:

 there just MIGHT be a need for me to use a few, chosen, Danish bad
 words. I shall try, of course, to keep it in Danish. Shouldn't offend too
many.

Maybe not offend but it could bring back bad memories for some about
blisters and aching backs, especially if one of the words is 'teambuilding'.



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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-08 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Heh-heh. It should be said in all fairness that we don't really spend 
much time with our website (keeping it updated, for instance - just to 
mention one minor detail), so we certainly understand if people are 
asking for directions there :).

One very un-serious question: Is it actually possible to do a revoke 
all from grant;?

Mogens

Grant Allen wrote:

D'oh ... just spotted the link to Oaktable - hidden, of all places, under Links.  Who'd a thought ...

Ciao
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Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-08 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
And since my topic at the Hotsos Symposium is /The DBA is Dead, the 
Database is Dying... But Our Future Looks Bright/ //there just MIGHT be 
a need for me to use a few, chosen, Danish bad words. I shall try, of 
course, to keep it in Danish. Shouldn't offend too many.

Can I suggest, Gary, that we also do a Profanity Class 101 for the 
speakers during the event? I could teach some of it.

Mogens

Gary Goodman wrote:

We may have to add a 'Mogens Nørgaard' profanity clause to the Symposium
speaker agreement.  I will admit that profanity from Connor does not
carry the same impact as profanity from Mogens!
Gary

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I'm saving that for the Hotsos symposium

--- Daniel W. Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Who cares about the profanity
 

Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force
David Kurtz to consume massive amounts of gin whilst
lobbing Fosters at the
audience?
Connor McDonald wrote:

   

I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
book especially since I'm only a co-author for
 

the
   

thing :-)

(And unlike my presentations, I promise that there
 

is
   

no profanity in the book...)

Cheers
Connor
--- Niall Litchfield
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haven't
   

read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's
 

book wasn't excellent.
He is a great communicator, despite being an
   

aussie
   

and all.

Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty
   

busy
   

with the Miracle db
forum right now (work gloves and stuff were
mentioned euurgh), but there are
plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for
   

an
   

OakTable press sequence of
books, with apress as publishers. Someone has to
write the buggers though.
Some of us have work to do.
Niall

Not american, but not big and not clever either.

   

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looks
   

to be
   

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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-08 Thread Mogens Nrgaard
It certainly is true for Mark, too, yes.

Mark - it would have been so wonderful if you had just added one little 
K in your sentence. Right in front of the word now. That would have 
been so very cool :).

Now go and find an excuse for visiting Denmark. On Friday Lex de Haan 
arrives. On Saturday Gaja and James Morle. On Sunday 16 other members. 
All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to). 
Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to 
bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...

Mogens

Bobak, Mark wrote:

No, I'm an American, a member of the OakTable, and I do not now, nor have
I ever worked for Oracle.  Also, I'm pretty sure the same is true of Mark
Powell.
Also, WRT to James Morle, he's got a new white paper out, Brewing 
Becnchmarks.  It's available at http://www.oaktable.net/

-Mark

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when did fuerstein join oaktable?
http://www.oaktable.net/pageServer.jsp?body=members.jsp

btw, are the only Americans members of Oracle or former members of Oracle? 

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I've heard that Steven Feuerstein has a new book on the way, though I 
have been unable to find any reference to it. 

Jared 



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Conner McDonald's book just came out and it looks to be pretty good. Any
more books in the pipeline?
 

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-08 Thread Grant Allen
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 Subject: Re: oaktable people
 
 
 Heh-heh. It should be said in all fairness that we don't really spend 
 much time with our website (keeping it updated, for instance 
 - just to 
 mention one minor detail), so we certainly understand if people are 
 asking for directions there :).
 
 One very un-serious question: Is it actually possible to do a revoke 
 all from grant;?
 
 Mogens

It is quite possibly the worst name to have as a DBA - thus my usual use of my 
nickname, Fuzzy.  My personal favourite is grant [whatever priv] to grant with grant 
option;.  One small benefit is you can be sure the apps we develop never have any 
problems with reserved words :-)

Ciao
Grant/Fuzzy
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-08 Thread Bobak, Mark
Hehehe...

I'm sorry I won't make it!  As I said, one of these days, I WILL make it
to Denmark!  I figure, between the two of us, if we can drink the beer fast 
enough, there won't be any opportunity for anyone to steal it!  ;-)
(Then you won't have to worry about sending Annette to do your dirty work,
capturing the criminal! ;-))

See you in Dallas! ;-)

-Mark


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It certainly is true for Mark, too, yes.

Mark - it would have been so wonderful if you had just added one little 
K in your sentence. Right in front of the word now. That would have 
been so very cool :).

Now go and find an excuse for visiting Denmark. On Friday Lex de Haan 
arrives. On Saturday Gaja and James Morle. On Sunday 16 other members. 
All to stay in my house (except Gaja - don't know what he's up to). 
Rock'n'roll. And none of them know what I meant when I asked them to 
bring some old clothes for some unusual teambuilding...

Mogens

Bobak, Mark wrote:

No, I'm an American, a member of the OakTable, and I do not now, nor have
I ever worked for Oracle.  Also, I'm pretty sure the same is true of Mark
Powell.

Also, WRT to James Morle, he's got a new white paper out, Brewing 
Becnchmarks.  It's available at http://www.oaktable.net/

-Mark


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when did fuerstein join oaktable?
 
http://www.oaktable.net/pageServer.jsp?body=members.jsp
 
btw, are the only Americans members of Oracle or former members of Oracle? 
 

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I've heard that Steven Feuerstein has a new book on the way, though I 
have been unable to find any reference to it. 

Jared 




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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
 I resemble that remark!  Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a
 bit direct for some people sometime.  :)

Aussies aint direct, oh no. Just talk with Danish!

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Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Nuno Souto
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 (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is
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You mean you gloss over BCHR?
Shame on you!
;)
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Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Connor McDonald
I'm saving that for the Hotsos symposium

 --- Daniel W. Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Who cares about the profanity
 
 Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force
 David Kurtz to consume massive amounts of gin whilst
 lobbing Fosters at the
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 Connor McDonald wrote:
 
  I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
  book especially since I'm only a co-author for
 the
  thing :-)
 
  (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there
 is
  no profanity in the book...)
 
  Cheers
  Connor
 
   --- Niall Litchfield
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I
 haven't
  read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's
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 aussie
   and all.
  
   Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty
 busy
   with the Miracle db
   forum right now (work gloves and stuff were
   mentioned euurgh), but there are
   plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for
 an
   OakTable press sequence of
   books, with apress as publishers. Someone has to
   write the buggers though.
   Some of us have work to do.
  
   Niall
  
   Not american, but not big and not clever either.
  
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: oaktable people





You would fit right in fine in the North East US...


I am also too direct for people sometimes!


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I resemble that remark! Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime. :)



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I haven't read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's book wasn't excellent.
He is a great communicator, despite being an aussie and all. 


Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty busy with the Miracle db
forum right now (work gloves and stuff were mentioned euurgh), but there are
plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for an OakTable press sequence of
books, with apress as publishers. Someone has to write the buggers though.
Some of us have work to do. 


Niall


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RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Thater, William
Connor McDonald  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
 book especially since I'm only a co-author for the
 thing :-)
 
 (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is
 no profanity in the book...)

oh damn.;-)

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Re: oaktable people

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 I resemble that remark!  Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a
bit direct for some people sometime.  :)


Hi Pete,

Me direct ???

Never !!

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RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Gary Goodman
We may have to add a 'Mogens Nørgaard' profanity clause to the Symposium
speaker agreement.  I will admit that profanity from Connor does not
carry the same impact as profanity from Mogens!

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I'm saving that for the Hotsos symposium

 --- Daniel W. Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Who cares about the profanity
 
 Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force
 David Kurtz to consume massive amounts of gin whilst
 lobbing Fosters at the
 audience?
 
 
 Connor McDonald wrote:
 
  I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
  book especially since I'm only a co-author for
 the
  thing :-)
 
  (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there
 is
  no profanity in the book...)
 
  Cheers
  Connor
 
   --- Niall Litchfield
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I
 haven't
  read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's
   book wasn't excellent.
   He is a great communicator, despite being an
 aussie
   and all.
  
   Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty
 busy
   with the Miracle db
   forum right now (work gloves and stuff were
   mentioned euurgh), but there are
   plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for
 an
   OakTable press sequence of
   books, with apress as publishers. Someone has to
   write the buggers though.
   Some of us have work to do.
  
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Niall Litchfield
Pete commented that
 Aussies are ALWAYS great 
 communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime.  :)

Unfortunately they keep communicating how great their cricketers are in
comparison to ours. Usually *to* ours. So we sulk, refuse to play and then
whinge. Actually now I think about it what better description of a DBA could
there be. I take it all back. 

Niall 

P.S. The david bowie bit is overdone though. 

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RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Niall Litchfield
Connor pointed out that
 I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
 book especially since I'm only a co-author for the
 thing :-)

Fair point. Replace book with contribution wherever I have inadvertently
given you too much credit. God forgive me if I give an Aussie an excuse to
boast. 

(And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is no profanity in the
book...)

Who cares. Squirrels. That's what we want. Squirrels do you hear. 

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Grant Allen
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 Pete commented that
  Aussies are ALWAYS great 
  communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime.  :)
 
 Unfortunately they keep communicating how great their 
 cricketers are in
 comparison to ours. Usually *to* ours. So we sulk, refuse to 
 play and then
 whinge. Actually now I think about it what better description 
 of a DBA could
 there be. I take it all back. 
 
 Niall 

But we let you win the rugby. :-) :-) :-) 

(Before Jared stomps on the off-topic post, are there any Oaktable links on the 
MiracleAS web site?  I'm having trouble finding them, and I could swear I've been 
there before - reading Mogen's description of the table)

Ciao
Fuzzy
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Grant Allen
D'oh ... just spotted the link to Oaktable - hidden, of all places, under Links.  
Who'd a thought ...

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra



I guess he is currently busy in polishing SWYG a new interface to write 
better code.

Raj
 
Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot 
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
I haven't read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's book wasn't excellent.
He is a great communicator, despite being an aussie and all. 

Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty busy with the Miracle db
forum right now (work gloves and stuff were mentioned euurgh), but there are
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Niall

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Sharman
I resemble that remark!  Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct for 
some people sometime.  :)

 
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I haven't read it yet, but I'd be amazed if Connor's book wasn't excellent.
He is a great communicator, despite being an aussie and all. 

Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty busy with the Miracle db
forum right now (work gloves and stuff were mentioned euurgh), but there are
plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for an OakTable press sequence of
books, with apress as publishers. Someone has to write the buggers though.
Some of us have work to do. 

Niall

Not american, but not big and not clever either. 

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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala

On 2004.01.06 18:44, Pete Sharman wrote:
 I resemble that remark!  Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct 
 for some people sometime.  :)
 
  
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Sharman
Of course I resemble that remark!  You really don't want to know what verbiage I have 
though!  :)

And of course, those that know both of us would realize that Niall and myself are two 
of the few Oakies capable of having facial hair, so we clearly resemble each other.  :)

 
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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I remember my previous aussie manager used to be verbose after few Beers (or Beah's) 
otherwise was usually less talkative, but was a real nice guy. Aussies are good 
natured people, not too uptight.

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RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Connor McDonald
I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
book especially since I'm only a co-author for the
thing :-)

(And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is
no profanity in the book...)

Cheers
Connor

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 Mogens and Tony from apress are probably pretty busy
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 forum right now (work gloves and stuff were
 mentioned euurgh), but there are
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 OakTable press sequence of
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 Some of us have work to do. 
 
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Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-06 Thread Daniel W. Fink
Who cares about the profanity

Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force David Kurtz to consume massive 
amounts of gin whilst lobbing Fosters at the
audience?


Connor McDonald wrote:

 I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's
 book especially since I'm only a co-author for the
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 Cheers
 Connor

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  plans that exist in more than Mogens' head for an
  OakTable press sequence of
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oaktable people

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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-05 Thread Jared . Still

I've heard that Steven Feuerstein has a new book on the way, though I
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Re: oaktable people

2004-01-05 Thread Ryan



when did fuerstein join oaktable?

http://www.oaktable.net/pageServer.jsp?body=members.jsp

btw, are the only Americans members of Oracle or 
former members of Oracle? 


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Re: oaktable people

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oh yeah. James Morle sent me an email today and 
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Re: oaktable people

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That would be nice. It's already indispensible.







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Re: oaktable people

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He didn't, but nonetheless I thought it was something that 
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http://www.oaktable.net/pageServer.jsp?body=members.jsp

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RE: oaktable people

2004-01-05 Thread Bobak, Mark
No, I'm an American, a member of the OakTable, and I do not now, nor have
I ever worked for Oracle.  Also, I'm pretty sure the same is true of Mark
Powell.

Also, WRT to James Morle, he's got a new white paper out, Brewing 
Becnchmarks.  It's available at http://www.oaktable.net/

-Mark


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