Re: [OGD] Sauleda '76 article

2004-09-01 Thread Bert van Zuylen
Hello Nicolas,

I have the issue of AOS with the article.
Would you like me to scan it, or do you prefer Xerox-copies?

Kind regards,
Bert van Zuylen
The Netherlands

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 dear OGD,

 I wonder if anyone have an access to this rather old article I need:

 Harvesting Times of Orchid Seed Capsules for the Green Pod Culture
Process,
 Ruben P. Sauleda;
 American Orchid Society Bulletin 45(4):305-309.
 I would greatly appreciate your help! Please contact me.
 Thanks in advance.
 Nicolas

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[OGD] new orchid encyclopedia

2004-09-01 Thread Bert van Zuylen
 Hello ODGers,

I would like to introduce a new orchid encyclopedia.

The complete encyclopedia of orchids was compiled by Zdenek Jezek from the
Czech Republik. It was issued by Rebo International from Lisse in The
Netherlands.  Originally it was written in Czech, but there are also English
and Dutch issues.

It's a hardcover book with 304 pages and some 680 pictures in color.
It gives an introduction to orchids in the first 30 pages, deals with
tropical orchids from page 32 up to 261 and deals with terrestrials from
page 262 up to 298.

The pictures are often a bit pale, but the flowers can be recognized easily.
I do not know how the English translation is, but in the Dutch version are
some rather odd mistakes.

But best of all: the price. I've bought the Dutch version for only 10 euro.
A friend of mine brought me the Czech version when he returned from a
holiday over there, and I had to pay only 12 euros for this book. The German
version is offered for 15 euros by several bookstores.

If you would like to order the English version, please contact:
Bookmart
PREMIER DRUM SITE
BLABY ROAD
LE18 4SE WIGSTON, LEICESTER
UK
Tel: 0044 116 275 9060

I do not know if the book is available in the USA, Canada, Australia or New
Zealand. If not please feel free to contact me off-group and I ask Rebo if I
can order it for you. No extra charges, you pay what I have to pay!!

Kind regards from The Netherlands,
Bert van Zuylen
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[OGD] Re: Sauleda '76 article

2004-09-01 Thread Greg Allikas
Nicolas,
Dr. Sauleda's table for Harvesting Times of Orchid Seed Capsules for the Green
Pod Culture Process is published with permission on my website here -
http://www.orchidworks.com/ozone/greenpod.htm

Greg


I wonder if anyone have an access to this rather old article I need:
Harvesting Times of Orchid Seed Capsules for the Green Pod Culture Process,
Ruben P. Sauleda;
American Orchid Society Bulletin 45(4):305-309.
I would greatly appreciate your help! Please contact me.
Thanks in advance.
Nicolas
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[OGD] and again

2004-09-01 Thread CC
'Stainless steel rust resistance indeed! Iris, once again your lack of
knowledge is showing. I believe Peter corrected you on the Equatorial day
length also. Could be a trifecta with your next post. Accurately yours,

Andy Easton

And YET again, Andy's there to make sure people know they've made a mistake.
Why, oh why, does Andy seem to enjoy doing that? Again to Andy, either
contribute to the list, or SHUT THE HELL UP!

Cody Cruise
Valley Pest Consulting
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[OGD] American Cattleyas

2004-09-01 Thread K Barrett
American Cattleyas
Courtney  Hackney's book on cattleya hybrids was produced as a limited 
printing, based on preorders.  The AOS has contacted him to purchase 
whatever stock he has remaining.  Before that happens remaining stock can be 
purchased through the retail site: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The web page is at: http://roseg4art.com/Rose7.htm
I have no connection with either the author or publisher, and have not 
received any renumeration for this post.

A friend of mine told me about the book some months ago and I pre-ordered a 
copy.  It is a very nice synopsis of Cattleya hybridizers, breeding lines 
and species traits. AND has pictures illustrating each breeding line to 
boot.  Its one of the few orchid books I've sat down to read from cover to 
cover - not just looking at the pictures or reading solely about the item I 
was interested in.

K Barrett
N Calif, USA
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[OGD] Promaeneas

2004-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear friends,
we are trying to build a complete collection of promaeneas (I already 
have a couple).

Do you know where we could buy them?
In UK is nearly impossible to find them.
Thanks in advance.
C  R
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[OGD] Daylength at the equator.

2004-09-01 Thread Wildcatt Database Co
Dave wrote:

The daylength at the equator *regardless* of your height (altitude)  is
precisely 12 hours every single day of the 
year.  Now this holds only directly on the equator.  This is because the
light always hits the earth exactly 
perpindicularly (90 degrees) at the equator. 


Actually, the sun is only directly over the equator (incident at 90 degrees)
at the time of either equinox.  When it is summer in the northern
hemisphere, the sun is almost 90 degrees incident on the tropic of Cancer
(23.5 degrees north latitude), and when it is winter up north the sun is
almost directly over the tropic of Capricorn(23.5 degrees south latitude).
This is because of the tilt of the Earth (about 23.45 degrees).  So
daylength does vary at the equator, being longest at the time of an equinox,
and shortest at the time of a solstice.
 
Helga Gray
 
Wildcatt Database Co.
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[OGD] Some new additions to my orchid species photo site

2004-09-01 Thread Eric Hunt
Hi everyone,

I've been working on my website the last few nights - it's a love-hate thing
you know.

I recently spent a day at my friend Dan Newman's Hanging Gardens greenhouse,
and those photos can be found at:

http://www.orchidphotos.org/images/orchids/HG/Aug2004/index.htm

The August 2004 San Francisco Orchid Society meeting is up at:

http://www.orchidphotos.org/images/orchids/SFOS/03Aug2004/index.htm

And I put letters N and O of the thumbnail based Species Photographs up
online. Those can be accessed from the main page at:

http://www.orchidphotos.org/

Coming soon: The last meeting of the Pleurothallid Alliance of the Bay Area
and more letters in the thumbnail based Species Photographs.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think!

Thanks.

-Eric in SF
www.orchidphotos.org
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[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 363 malipoense color

2004-09-01 Thread leo . schordje
Ron,
  I have bloomed 25 or so malipoense. All were the species. All were
divisions of what may have been collected material purchased here and there
in the US. (I have never done any importing myself).  I have had color vary
from vivid lime green, to deep dark green, to pale green, to gray green, to
yellow green. Your description of yellow green flowers does sound like it
is the normal species, just a less than common colored form of it.  If the
features of the staminode, column and form of the flower and the foliage
conform to the type descriptions for malipoense, then you have the real
deal and not likely a hybrid.  The problem with judges is that they are not
taxonomists, and will often make taxonomic decisions without knowledge of
what is normal range of traits for a population.  I was surprised by the
variations I have seen.  Email photos to a taxonomic authority like Drs.
Guido Braem or Eric Christenson and see if they concur. Malipoense is a
well known concept, a couple of good photos, face, side, foliage and
staminode should suffice to verify an identity.  Then show it again the
next time it blooms with a copy of the note from your authority.
Good luck
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[OGD] Nymphenburg Botanical Gardens, Munich

2004-09-01 Thread Sandy Gillians
Hello, I had a look at Eric Hunt's lovely photos, and it occurred to
me that some of you might be interested in some photos of orchids in
bloom at Nymphenburg Botanial Gardens in Munich. I'll update it next
time I go (these date back to April).

http://offpollen.typepad.com/photos/orchids_at_nymphenburg_ga/index.html

Cheers

Sandy

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Botanical discipline, daily.
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[OGD] Dendrobiums - OGD 6/366

2004-09-01 Thread greig russell
Dear Peter,
Thanks for the continuing discussion. One the one side, perhaps you are
gaining a convert to your idea - however, I will need to consult with the work
of Clements  Jones first, and see if I may prefer their version better.

In the meanwhile, let me advance a few thoughts here:
1. Pollinators: I live in the midst of what is thought to be one of the most
mature of Floral Kingdoms; the Cape Flora. The ecological sophistication
brought to our local plants by an apparently long, little-interrupted
evolution as a community, means that we have large numbers of good examples of
oligophily - that is, pollination of a species by one to very few species of
pollinator - not only amongst the orchids, but in numerous other plant
families. For me oligophily is always uppermost in my mind.
Of course, the Cape Floral Kingdom is also not the Australasian Tropical Rain
Forest.

Regarding One species of carpenter bee is known to cause pollination of
several species of large-flowered tropical Asian orchids:- Polytropy (the
visiting of a wide range of plant species by one species of pollinator) does
not logically exclude oligophily. I agree that the one orchid species, one
insect species hypothesis is a gross simplification - there are many other
factors which need to be taken into consideration, but there is a grain of
wisdom in taking this hypothesis as a starting point, and then going out and
disproving it in the species being studied. The process of disproving would
be, in itself, very revealing.
Regarding the significance of flower size in relation to a pollinator; I
believe that for any particular flower size, where a number of different
flower sizes occur in a group of related plants, correct placement of the
pollinaria - so essential to successful pollination - only takes place on an
appropriately-sized/shaped insect.

2. As plants are continuously evolving - I like to see a species,
paradoxically, as a final product which is a Perfect work in progress, and
about which nothing is final. We see them as they are today. Seeds will fly
around the place and make changes down the line. To evaluate breeding barriers
in terms of allopatry; one needs to assess things as they are at present - the
result of what has gone on so far.
Today's species are not tomorrow's species - on a somewhat larger time frame.

3. As I pointed out, Plants are not mosquitos of course, and their genetic
differences seem to hold a different rank to those of animals, so I agree
with you here. There appears to be much more of a continuum exhibited in the
DNA profiles in plants, when compared to the clipped, defined DNA profiles
that can be seen to represent animal species - the latter making the job of
the animal taxonomist so much the easier.

Finally. We may be comparing apples and onions here. There are a number of
forms of Species. Your taxonomic unit appears to be what is called a
Morphological Species: defined as the smallest population structurally
distinct and distinguishable from all others; a very practical and pragmatic
approach - the only fascile one that can be applied by the compiler of a
Regional Flora.
My taxonomic unit is probably the Biological Species: which can be defined
as natural populations of living, reproducing, genetically related
individuals isolated from other populations by barriers to gene exchange.
This is a lot more airy-fairy - but its elegance appeals to the aberrant
proteins that float around in my skull. This approach better suits the
compiler of the Monograph of a genus.
There are yet other forms of Species.

Regards,
greig russell
Kommetjie.
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[OGD] More Chlorine

2004-09-01 Thread BCPRESS
The active ingredient in bleach is not gaseous chlorine but  hypochlorite 
ion, which is not volatile. Accordingly, bleach needs no  confinement to work 
properly.  It destroys the amino acid tyrosine, a  constitute of all complex 
proteins, on immediate contact; the rest of the  organic matter follows close 
behind.  Perhaps it seems too easy to accept  without performing traditional 
orchid rituals, but bleach is really that  effective and can be used with 
confidence to clean pots and sterilize  cutting edges.  If viral RNA or DNA is not 
destroyed instantaneously by  hypochlorite, [a possibility I doubt very much] 
remember, viral nucleic acid is  not infective without ancillary protein 
structures which enable it to penetrate  cells.  I cannot supply a time table of the 
rapidity of destruction of  every chemical entity, but it does not take much to 
destroy functional  protoplasm.  Twenty-four seconds should suffice, 24 hours 
gives one a  safety margin.  I would sooner be suspect of the oven than an 
exposure to  good strong  bleach.Bert  Pressman
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[OGD] removing rust from Stainless steel

2004-09-01 Thread Peter Spear
see this page
http://www.tipking.com/tip/4541.html
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[OGD] Bleach and dirty pots - thanks for the info!

2004-09-01 Thread tennis
Thank you, Bert Pressman, for your informative post. When you have many 
pots to do as I do, this method will save me a great deal of time and 
effort!
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