[OGD] Acriopsis liliifolia and catch-roots

2005-04-12 Thread Peter O'Byrne
Paul J. Johnson wrote a good account of catch-roots in the neotropics,
and asked for first-hand observations from the S.E.Asian area.

Of the species in several genera of Asian orchids that form
catch-roots, the most common and easily-seen is the widespread
Acriopsis liliifolia (Koen.) Ormerod
(syn. A. javanica Reinw. ex. Blume). 

This species occurs from sea-level to at least 1600 m altitude in a
range of habitats ... primary and secondary forests (both lowland and
montane), plantations and farmland, pine forests, solitary trees in
villages  waysides, freshwater forests, coastal swamp forest, trees
in savannah areas, etc. It occasionally occurs lithophytically, was
once recorded growing on tufts of grass near the shore, is one of only
a few species that quite happily grows on the stilt-roots of giant
Pandanus species, and is the only epiphytic species I know of that
will grow on bamboo stems in bamboo forests. It is clearly a versatile
species that adapts readily to a wide range of environmental
conditions. It is most often seen in very exposed situations such as
the trunks and upper branches of dead trees (eg, along forest margins)
where it thrives in full sunlight. However, this is only because it is
highly visible in such situations ... if you enter the forest and hunt
around, you'll find it in just about every possible habitat except
total shade.

It is worth noting that for an orchid that grows so readily almost
anywhere in the wild, it is surprisingly difficult to maintain in
cultivation. Transplanted specimens rapidly lose their leaves, then
usually develop a rot at the centre of the plant, leading to a rapid
radiating die-off of mature pseudobulbs and the consequent loss of the
plant.

When you find A. liliifolia in the wild, you'll usually (but not
always) find an ant's nest. The plant is often associated with nests
of small red-brown ants that are locally called fire ants for
obvious reasons (possibly not the same species of fire ant that
occurs in N. America). Even plants that do not sit over an ant's nest
often have ants crawling over them. The ants nest under and around the
main roots, and as new roots are produced from new growths they extend
outwards in the usual orchidaceous manner, growing over the top of the
ant's nest and hiding it from view. The ants seem to expand their nest
at the same rate as the plant grows, because the top of the roots
always seems to be level with the top of the ant's nest. The ant's
nests are so well concealed that it is extremely hard to tell, from
the outside, which plants are growing on ant's nests and which one
aren't.

Although the plant forms a tight cluster of pseudobulbs, the
pseudobulb shape is such that ant crawl-spaces exist between the bases
of the pseudobulbs. In most orchids, roots grow outwards to fill the
available space (you've all seen one root growing tightly alongside a
slightly older one) but in A. liliifolia the roots radiate to a
greater extent, resulting in gaps between them that the ants can nest
in.

The catch-roots are not covered by the ant's nest, and are certainly
not buried by it, though presumably the ant's nest eventually grows up
and covers the bases of the older catch-roots. I cannot recall if I've
ever seen catch-roots growing up through the nesting material to any
extent ... as I said before, it is hard to tell if there's a nest
there at all.

Ants are scrupulously hygienic animals, and devote a lot of effort to
keeping their nest  environs clean. They seem to extend this care to
the plant that houses them, because anything small enough to be
cleaned away seems to get removed. The leaves and twigs I've seen
trapped between the catch-roots are those too big for a small ant to
deal with. For this reason I doubt that Paul's hypothesis given the
right conditions trash roots may accumulate a little compost is
correct; as the leaves decay into small enough fragments the ants
would remove them in order to keep their runs clear.

I have no doubt that the plants derive benefits from their association
with ants ... I don't know if the plant would gain nutrients from ant
faeces (do ants use a midden, do they relocate their droppings to
outside nest ?) but they certainly attack and deter animals/insects
that might attempt to graze on the plant... on several occasions I've
been on the receiving end of such an assault, and have been deterred
by it.

Orchid-ant associations are really common in S.E.Asia. We have at
least 5 genera where some or all the species specialise in the
production of what we probably ought to be calling ant-roots. Also,
it is not at all unusual to find ants nesting amongst the roots of
other epiphytic orchids, eg Dendrobiums, Aerides, Bulbophyllums,
Erias, etc.

Finally, why do I think A. liliifolia is so difficult to transplant
from the wild ? Maybe it is because of the absence of ants.

Peter O'Byrne
in Singapore

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[OGD] Thanks

2005-04-12 Thread icones
Thanks everyone that sent me the new e-mail address of Rudolf Jenny.
icones
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[OGD] Re: Perpetual inflorescences

2005-04-12 Thread Carl Gustafson
Stephen Kemp asked, in regards to the subject:
Is there a scientific term for this phenomenon and what other orchids
display it?
Dunno about scientific term, but my Hartwegia (perhaps obsolete 
genus) purpurea does this, blooming repeatedly for years on the same 
inflorescence.

Doesn't Psychopsis papilio and cousins do this too?
Carl a trivial name Gustafson
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[OGD] trash roots on cymbidium ensifolium

2005-04-12 Thread Leslie Bursey
Title: Message



I was given 
cymbidium ensifolium as a gift last year. It is a large, mature plant 
busting out of its 5" pot, and has what you all are describing as trash 
roots. Two different root systems are obvious.

Regards, 

Leslie in South 
Florida


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[OGD] Andy's reply to Lycasteria Darius

2005-04-12 Thread David



Sorry to disagree with you, but it is important to 
note that except for the 1 time Marie Riopelle has flowered it, no one has ever 
flowered it. Even Marie has not flowered it again. So I think that that fact and 
the fact that Marie has seen as many Angulocastes as anyone and this does not 
resemble it, and that the breeding group (Maxillarias) are very easy to cross 
and get results (She has also made a cross between a Lycaste and 
Acaccalis(Aginisia), I think That this is indeed what it is. It is true that we 
have a shortage of Academic people who can do the DNA proof, but a plant that 
has only flowered once in over 30 years is probably not worth the 
trouble.
  Sincerely 
David Morris

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[OGD] Phrag. kovachii

2005-04-12 Thread Orchids Limited
Announcement:  Orchids Limited is the first nursery in the United States to 
receive the first Legal seedlings in Flask of Phrag. Kovachii. Jerry 
Fischer took a trip to Peru and after a lot of preparation and intense 
amounts of paperwork fromINRENA and the exporter we successfully hand 
carried the flasks back to the US. We had to sign an agreement with INRENA 
that the seedlings would not be sold for 2 years, which we will honor 
fully. This is exciting and we can't wait till they grow large enough to 
flower. The seedlings are from Manolo Arias of Peru.

Jerry Lee Fischer 

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[OGD] 2 questions: naming orchids and bird repellent

2005-04-12 Thread nancy
Hello -
A few years back I bought a seedling of Encyclia alata
x Encyclia tampencis (sic). By the time my plant
bloomed, this cross had been named Encyclia Cindy. I
just found the original label, which says Enc. alata
'Barbara' x Enc. tampencis 'Mendenhall'...this
resulting plant is still Enc. Cindy, correct? Or no?
Second question: with spring, I've been moving my
orchids out into the yard, repotting as I go (good
intentions!); I keep finding many of them de-potted
every day by birds. No idea what causes this
attraction. Poor Cattleytonia Why Nott has been
refilled with medium 5 times in 3 days...I've hung a
few dozen FREE AOC CDs around the trees and shrubs,
but this doesn't scare 'em. A few years ago, a big
inflatable snake served as a perch until it was
punctured (by bird feet).
Any suggestions to repel them?
A change from squirrels, in any case.
Regards - Nancy
Blooming: Gongora tricolor!!! Wow!
  

Cogito, ergo spud.
(I think, therefore I yam.)



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[OGD] Lycasteria Darius.

2005-04-12 Thread Andy Easton
Title: Lycasteria Darius.






David,


You could well be correct. I was at the judging when it was exhibited and it was a tatty thing, of no beauty. Certainly if it has not bloomed again that would be good circumstantial evidence that the parentage is correct. Wyld Court did sell mislabeled Lycasterias that were Angulocastes, pure and simple. It would be good to get Dr. Henry Oakeley's take on this too, after all this group is his field of interest. I must say that I can barely even recall the flower after all these years and it certainly made no lasting impression.

Andy Easton







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[OGD] Rodriguezia lanceolata

2005-04-12 Thread Stuart Miller








Grew this species in Orlando,
 FL a goodly number of years ago.
It thrived on a piece of tree fern slab with no sphagnum in an open-air
greenhouse. It required frequent (daily) waterings during the summer months,
every few days during the winter. The critical issue was drainage around the
roots. 



Hope this helps.








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[OGD] Rodriguezia lanceolata

2005-04-12 Thread orchids
Thanks to everyone who replied on the cultural requirements for Rodriguezia 
lanceolata.  

Susan Taylor

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[OGD] Jerry Fischer's Pk flasks.

2005-04-12 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen



Jerry,

Would you kindly post a picture on your 
websiteof one of the Pk flasks you purchased 
in Lima from Manola Arias, son of Manuel Arias Silva, showing the Pk seedlings inside.
Preferably the Johnny Walker flasks. ( they sell 
three types of flasks)

I have seenthe J.W. Pk flask my friend 
purchased at the WOC in Dijon. Not even close to
what the picture shows in the Peru-Flora Brochure. 


Peter



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[OGD] Re:why roots grow down?

2005-04-12 Thread Charles Ufford
on 4/13/05 1:04 AM, Mark wrote:

 This brings up a question which I may have already answered above
 (light), but I don't know for sure. What is the trigger that causes
 auxin to know if it is in a root to grow downward with the pull of
 gravity? Is is lack of light or the presence of some root cells? Light
 causes new growth to grow upward, but does less light with gravitational
 pull cause roots to grow downward? With epiphytes root growth maybe
 dictated by contact with a surface or otherwise light?
 
 Mark Sullivan


Hello Mark,
  I remember a little from plant phys class that some plants (can't say all
as I don't know if is the case) have something like crystals or some other
solid structure that is inside certain cells. Can't remember if they are
free-floating or attached. Where these 'objects' cause pressure on part of
the cell insides due to gravity that is 'down', and if the cells are
designed to grow down they follow the signal and if they are to go up, they
go opposite the pressure in the cell. Hope someone has a better explanation
than that!

charles
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