Re: [OGD] Bletilla striata / QA
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:47 AM Subject: [OGD] Bletilla striata / QA Bletilla orchid grows stronger with pruning By MARIANNE BINETTI ... Q: ... I have a patch of hardy orchids in my shaded garden... Bletilla striata... although they bloom well, the long stems tend to get floppy and fall all over the pathway that is nearby If I prune back the new growth in early spring, will this make the orchids stay low and grow more compact?... M.B.: ... shorten the new growth of these hardy orchid plants in very early spring after you see that the new shoots are about 8 inches tall, Snip off the stems to half their height... the Bletilla orchid will bloom a few weeks later than usual, but the flowers will be easier to enjoy, held on shorter and stronger stems... Bletilla striata... , asking for just a cool location in a shaded spot and lots of organic matter in the soil to keep the roots moist. Once you make them happy, these Chinese ground orchids will return year after year in larger colonies no matter when you decide to prune them back. They tend to bloom better when crowded so even though they can be lifted and shared in early spring as soon as the shoots emerge, they do best when left in place year after year source : http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nwgardens/274775_binetti22.html?source=rss ** regards, VB As someone who has grown these for over thirty-five years, I would have to disagree with what this women suggests. Most of the time B. striata's bloom spike is contained within the initial shoot and comes out before the leaves develop much. Her suggestion seems to be a good way to clip off the spike accidentally and due to the reduction of leaves, the plant may not flower as well the next year or be as strong. The cut-off leaves will also look more like palm seedlings as well. As these orchids have fairly attractive foliage (for orchids), the best solution is to put these plants where they won't be in the way. They flower for me in late April here in northeast Tennessee and the foliage remains attractive until frost. David Sizemore ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Hawai'i Dendrobiums or Phalaenopsis
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: [OGD] Hawai'i Dendrobiums or Phalaenopsis I've never seen Phals grown commercially in Hawai`i as they seem to require more steamy conditions than Hawai`i provides outside of a greenhouse... Most commerical orchid (and other tropical flowers) production is on the Big Island. David S. David Carmela Orchids on the Big Island produces thousands of Phals. for wholesale, and retail. Colin Hamilton Webmaster Australian Orchid Council/OrchidsAustralia Rockhampton, Qld. Australia www.orchidsaustralia.com Sweets are the destiny that shapes our ends. ___ I guess that I should have qualified my statement as concerns Maui. I know that many acres of Dendrobiums, Heliconias, Anthuriums, Gingers and other tropicals are grown outdoors under shade cloth for the cut flower market on the Big Island in the Puna District near Pahoa and Kea`au. I believe Carmela Orchids in Hakalau, HI is primarily a semi-greenhouse operation north of Hilo but do grow quite a large number of orchids of several genera with a very nice selection of Phals. They are fortunate to be on the windward side of the island and get plenty of rain. David S. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Hawai'i's most popular genus : Dendrodium or Phalaenopsis ?
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:06 PM Subject: [OGD] Hawai'i's most popular genus : Dendrodium or Phalaenopsis ? In a news item published today in the Honolulu Advertiser : Dendrobiums have been popular in Hawai'i for many years, and signs are they will continue to be the most widely grown orchids... With the introduction of new varieties, the popularity of dendrobiums will continue to grow in Hawai'i. source : http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Jul/22/il/507220319.html I would have thought that phalaenopsis were also sold in large numbers in Hawai'i. Are dendrobiums more readily available than phalaenopsis in Hawai'i ? ** Regards, Viateur I've never seen Phals grown commercially in Hawai`i as they seem to require more steamy conditions than Hawai`i provides outside of a greenhouse. Dendrobiums (mostly D. phalaenopsis hybrids) do well outdoors and require less shade cloth than the Phals. It's a matter of economics as most flowering Dendrobiums plants are used for hotel displays but most of flowers are produced for lei. Unfortunately, supply doesn't nearly meet demand and most of flowers come from Thailand as sprays in quite large boxes. One farm on Maui has a few acres of terete Vandas that are grown mostly for plate garnish for the restaurants. A field of them is quite a sight as they are grown closely together and the plants all support each other with the aerial roots. Most commerical orchid (and other tropical flowers) production is on the Big Island. David S. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Re: sterilizing pots
- Original Message - From: nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:50 PM Subject: [OGD] Re: sterilizing pots Greetings - For those with a self-cleaning oven, I think this is an excellent way to clean and sterilize pots. I usually run the cleaning cycle and extra hour or so (so the oven actually gets clean, too), and the pots come out with only a fine coating of ash. Algae, fungus, roots, etc. are all carbonized. I believe the 500F+ temperature is sufficient to kill all manner of virus, bacteria, and varmint egg. Legal Disclaimer: Warning: not to be used for plastic or wood! Regards - Nancy Measure twice; cut once. Nancy's first rule of woodworking When it comes down to marrying, better speak once, think twice. George Thorogood -- A self-cleaning oven uses tremendous amounts of electricity for a cycle. It will make a noticeable difference in your electric bill. If you don't believe me, just go outside and watch the pretty electric meter whirl like a dervish for hours whiles it's carbonizing your oven's interior. Might as well be firing pottery in it while your at it. David S. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay!!!!
Only the top link to them has been shutdown. If you go down to their store categories, they have nine different auctions active for C. acaule. David S. - Original Message - From: Blue Moon Exotics To: the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay The storefront is still there but all the product links have been blocked by e-bay -Original Message- From: David S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 01:07 PM To: 'the OrchidGuide Digest \(OGD\)' Subject: Re: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay Sue, did you go to their eBay store page: http://stores.ebay.com/pinkladyslippers_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm They still had all of them up just a minute ago. David S. - Original Message - From: Sue A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay Congratulations, David S! they're gone, I clicked on the photo of the orchids and up pops a terse message from the Voice of ebay informing me that the item in question has been removed, is no longer available, etc. etc., so your strategy worked, at least for ebay...Hopefully somebody will take action to put them out of business permanently, and discourage them (and other ravagers) from embarking on similar endeavours. Cheers, Sue Austin, Ipswich, MA, with bloodroot in full bloom, trout-lilies up with no flowers yet, and partridge-berry, but no pink ladyslippers... ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay!!!!
Sue, did you go to their eBay store page: http://stores.ebay.com/pinkladyslippers_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm They still had all of them up just a minute ago. David S. - Original Message - From: Sue A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: [OGD] Pink ladyslippers removed from e-bay Congratulations, David S! they're gone, I clicked on the photo of the orchids and up pops a terse message from the Voice of ebay informing me that the item in question has been removed, is no longer available, etc. etc., so your strategy worked, at least for ebay...Hopefully somebody will take action to put them out of business permanently, and discourage them (and other ravagers) from embarking on similar endeavours. Cheers, Sue Austin, Ipswich, MA, with bloodroot in full bloom, trout-lilies up with no flowers yet, and partridge-berry, but no pink ladyslippers... ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Stripping the woods again...
Last year I wrote about a seller on eBay that was auctioning mass quantities of Cypripedium acaule. I'm talking about up to 15 lots of 300 plants, along with very large quantities of smaller lots. Their seller name is kyatvrider, which I interpret to mean Kentucky All-Terrain Vehicle rider. I tracked down them to Chase's Plants Prints from McKee, Kentucky, which is what they called themselves last year. They now have a website: http://www.pinkladyslippers.com/ . I don't know of any reputable nursery that would have quantities like this available, much less sell them on eBay, so I assume that, with the help of an ATV or two, they are stripping the woods. They do state that they ship when they come up and I'm sure are shipped bareroot. This area of southeastern Kentucky is a heavily forested area (except for the strip coal mines). They also seem to be stripping the forests of mosses and other wildflowers. According to WHOIS, they've now cloaked their domain name through an Australian company, so their current contact info can't be found. I'm sure it is unchanged from last year when I was able to get it. Then, it was the following: Organisation Name: Mark Farmer Org. Address: 140 Quail Run Estates, McKee, KY 40447 Admin Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin Phone: 1-606-287-4923 From what I gathered last year, they are not a licensed nursery, which is required in Kentucky in order to ship plants. They are required to accompany each shipment with a copy of an inspection certificate or license certified by the state entomologist. I sent this seller the following email through eBay last year, but received no response (surprise!): == Hello, I have a number of questions about the Cypripedium acaule orchids that you are auctioning: 1. Are you a licensed nursery in the state of Kentucky, compliant to KY Law 249.060? 2. Are you compliant with KY Law 249.090: Shipments to be accompanied by inspection certificate or license? 3. You are not in the database of Kentucky Certified plant Nurseries or plant Dealers under the name of Chase's Plants and Prints. To sell these orchids and other plants without being licensed is against the law in Kentucky. 4. Do you own the land that these orchids and moss are being removed from? These orchids that you're selling a among the hardest species in America to transplant and have a typical failure rate of over 90% to survive beyond one year. They are also quite rare in most parts of the country. Please reconsider selling these plants, especially in the massive quantities that you are offering. I sent emails to Joe Collins, a Kentucky nursery inspector located at the University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY, who said he would look into it. I didn't receive any sort of followup from him. It seems the state only has him and one other fellow to handle the whole state. Joe Collins Nursery Inspector S-225 Agriculture Science Center - North Department of Entomology, University of Kentucky Lexington, KY 40546-0091 (859) 257-5838; Fax: (859) 257-3807 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uky.edu/Agriculture/NurseryInspection This is the link to the sellers eBay store so you can see for yourselves what he's offering: http://stores.ebay.com/pinkladyslippers_W0QQssPageNameZl2QQtZkm Does anyone have any ideas of how to put pressure on this eBay seller to stop this terrible practice? Any help would be appreciated. David S. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Re: Unvented Gas Fireplaces vs. Orchids
I found out the hard way too with a small kerosene heater in my apartment many years ago. The place had electric ceiling heat that was very costly to operate and not very effective (hot head, cold feet). I bought a little kerosene heater and only used it a few hours each night. After about three days, all of my buds blasted on about twenty plants of six genera. I bought a small electrical heater after that. David Sizemore - Original Message - From: Robert Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OLD orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: [OGD] Re: Unvented Gas Fireplaces vs. Orchids I can give one example of the problems with unvented gas heaters. We moved from Tennessee to Virginia and built a new home. The greenhouse, 17 x 32 ft, was finished first but the heating system was not functional when cold weather came. Our contractor brought an unvented propane heater to use. All of the blooms were gone in a few days. I switched to small electrical heaters and had no problems with other plants as they came into bloom. Bob Smoak ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] RE: Eric Young history?
http://www.aiipowmia.com/inter22/in082302search.html David Sizemore - Original Message - From: K Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 9:24 PM Subject: [OGD] RE: Eric Young history? I'd be interested in this too, if you don't mind, or email me privately if you really want to talk, LOL!! K Barrett NCalif, USA From: Sandy Gillians [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please say more about Eric Young -- there is very little about him on the internet, except that he founded the research station on Jersey and sadly died an untimely death. I'm curious thanks Sandy On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:51:17 -0500, Eric Christenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric was a visionary that the orchid community has sadly let down at every turn. If Eric had lived the orchid landscape would be very different indeed. Eric Christenson ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] RE: George Norris Sentence - Homeland Security?????????
Sshh! You'll awaken the Carnivore! David S. - Original Message - From: Chris Brevoort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: [OGD] RE: George Norris Sentence - Homeland Security? Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:51:45 -0700 From: Jim Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OGD] George Norris Sentence For a full text of his sentence, go to http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/fls/Norris2.html -- What disturbs me is the following passage, quoted from the site above: Mr. Jiminez commended the investigative efforts of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service, the Department of Homeland Security,. Excuse me Homeland security What the hell are they doing in this case that couldn't possibly be stretched into a threat to US national security??? Now let me hear from the naysayers again about how the US government is not turning into a neo-nazi organization and that the 'Patriot Act' (geez, sounds just like something from Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia) and Homeland Security Dept. aren't a bigger threat to liberty than terrorism? Or have they taken you away already??? Chris Brevoort ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] RE: Stripping the Woods
I got the following email this morning from the Nursery Inspector's Office in Kentucky. I hope they are able to do something about this situation. David Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) - Original Message - From: Joe Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: plantsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Possible Unlicensed Wild Orchid Dealer (largescale) (Updated Info) Thanks for the information. We'll look into it. Joe _ Joe Collins Nursery Inspector S-225 Agriculture Science Center - North Department of Entomology, University of Kentucky Lexington, KY 40546-0091 (859) 257-5838; Fax: (859) 257-3807 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uky.edu/Agriculture/NurseryInspection ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Regarding the ladyslippers being taken out of the woods
- Original Message - From: Alexis Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:35 PM Subject: [OGD] Regarding the ladyslippers being taken out of the woods Regarding the ladyslippers being taken out of the woods, here's a question from me about it: Do they even have a nursery license? At the local orchid society meeting, the speaker said that at least the Florida department of agriculture will press charges against anyone from florida selling orchids without a nursery license number because they watch over he ebay auction website. If that person doesn't have a nursery license and kentucky has the same law in their state, they will be forced to stop selling on ebay and will have to pay at least a large fine. Alexis Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] According to the KY website KRS Chapter 249.060, they are required to have a license and pay a fee: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/249-00/060.PDF According to KRS Chapter 249.090, they are required to accompany each shipment with a copy of an inspection certificate or license certified by the state entomologist: http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/249-00/090.PDF Also see KRS Chapter 249.103 about licensing requirements : http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/KRS/249-00/103.PDF David A. Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] stripping the woods
I did send the following letter to Carl Harper and Joe Collins of the UK Office of State Entomologist/Kentucky Nursery Inspection: I just wanted to make you aware of a situation going on in your state that you should be aware of. An entity known as Chase's Plants and Prints in McKee, KY is auctioning on eBay very large quantities of Cypripedium acaule, the pink ladyslipper orchid. I'm not talking about a few plants either. They are offering up to 15 lots of 300 plants along with large lot quantities of 100's and 10's. They are also offering massive amounts of ferns and moss. I suspect that the majority of these plants are being stripped from the wild and sold without remorse to the gullible. They do not appear under this name in the list of KY certified nurseries or dealers that's on the website of the UK Office of State Entomologist/Kentucky Nursery Inspection. Would that violate KY laws 249.060 and 249.090? Their username on eBay is telling: kyatvrider (Kentucky All Terrain Vehicle Rider). As you probably already know, this orchid species while locally abundant in some areas, is quite rare throughout the country. It's also extremely difficult to transplant due to the symbiotic nature of the plant and a fungus in the soil. Failures to thrive over one year can exceed 90% after transplantation. They state right on one of their auction pages for a lot of 300 orchids, The difference in our plants and others is they are grown in the woods at our farm not in a nursery and they transplant and live so much better plus we will replace any plant that does not live up to one full year. This page's URL (link may wrap) is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=42218item=4315104383 The fact that ferns are mosses are also being auctioned in mass quantities means the possibility of erosion problems, not to mention the sheer rape of the woods that these are located in. Even though I'm not a resident of Kentucky, I live just over the mountains in Northeast Tennessee and greatly treasure our unspoiled woodlands and their diverse offerings. If these plants are not being sold legally, I would appreciate your investigation of this matter. At the very least, what they're doing is morally reprehensible and they should be enlightened by someone in authority. Here's the link to their storefront page on eBay. You may click on any of the items listed to get the details (URL may wrap): http://stores.ebay.com/Chases-Plants-and-Prints_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm It is possible as a state agency/law enforcement body to get their address info from eBay. David A. Sizemore Kingsport, TN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: CC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: [OGD] stripping the woods REPORT THEM! Cody Cruise Valley Pest Consulting ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Re: Stripping the Woods
- Original Message - From: Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: [OGD] Re: Stripping the Woods I applaud those of you who are working to bring this possible abuse to the attention of the appropriate authorities. If everything is legal and above board, there should be little harm in scrutiny. For those of you with an interest or need to know who is behind Chase's Plants and Prints, you might try the following: 1. Go to their eBay store front at http://stores.ebay.com/Chases-Plants-and-Prints_W0QQsspagenameZl2QQtZkm 2. Click on the About the Seller link. 3. Make note of the webpage they list at the bottom of their summary. 4. Go to one of the internet registry sites, such as http://www.register.com and do a whois look up of this url. Turns out this website is newly registered and to someone other than Chase. Regards, Dale in Northern California == You don't reckon that Chase is the name of the six year-old son? Whoever did the webpage botched it bigtime. My IE browser says it has multiple errors and many of the links are wrong and pics don't load. They don't even show an address, phone number or other contact info. Typical. Perhaps I need to pass this info along too to the guys in KY. David Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
Re: [OGD] Evolution and Speciation
- Original Message - From: Martin Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orchidguide digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:15 AM Subject: [OGD] Evolution and Speciation deleted Do orchids that escape in the wild jungles of Hawaii ever find a substitute insect that does the job of their normal vector? Many years ago I saw a number of Phalaenopsis on tree branches in Asuncion, Paraguay, thoughtfully (or thoughtlessly) put there by members of a local orchid society. I vaguely remember a couple of seed pods on them. Did they originate with the ubiquitous toothpick, or did a confused insect do the job? And how about the vector. The flowers are not always there for the taking. Clearly they must philander around with other flowers when there are none of their favorite orchids in bloom. What other kinds of flowers do they favor? Then there is man and his toothpick (is this the universal tool for this purpose). He selects plants which please him (don't insects do the same thing?) and insures that they breed with who knows what. Is this evolution by unnatural selection? More thoughts, anyone? Martin On the Hawaiian island of Maui, Spathoglottis plicata is found in lots of places on the windward side. It definitely is pollinated by something as most plants that are flowering have several seed pods forming on them. Here's a picture of a typical plant that someone pulled up: (URL is long and may wrap) http://www.hear.org/starr/hiplants/images/600max/html/starr_000919_8015_spathoglottis_plicata.htm Also in northeast Tennessee, Bletialla striata is also found to be commonly pollinated. I've never seen bees or butterflies on the flowers but have noticed ants on them. Perhaps this is the pollinater? David Sizemore Kingsport, TN (Zone 6a) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
