Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Ilan Garibi]

Copyright and teaching:

>From the USA law book:
*the fair use *of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in
copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for
purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, t*eaching (including
multiple **copies for classroom use*), scholarship, or research, *is not an
infringement **of copyright.*

Just to remind that the law is very clear about teaching - it is considered
as a fair use. The law simply says - teach whatever you like - including
giving multiple copies for classroom use.

Regarding the OUSA policy to ask permission from the relatives of a
deceased creator -  I find this puzzling at the least. If a person dies,
the least we could do to honor and remember him and his work is by teaching
it. What kind of harm can we make if we teach his model without his
widow's approval? will she lose money over that? will she lose anything?

law, as well as customs that spread in a community should make sense, and
be of use. I think to ask a teacher to look for approval from the family of
a dead creator is (and I am sorry if I my words are too harsh - moderator,
you can mild down this line) bound to bury his work with him.

To make my point, I checked several books, and encourage you to do that
also - if there is no forbidding remark to teach the models included
without permission, and since the law regard teaching as a fair use, I
think OUSA, as well the community as a whole declare that for teaching
purposes one should not need to ask anyone for permission.

Come to think of that - what is the moral ground for a creator to
forbid anyone to teach his work? it's against the spirit of the copyright
law, and against the permission the law provides - how can you override the
law? I really dont understand that.

Best,
Ilan

Re: [Origami] Modular icosahedron with plain faces?

[Enrica p]

There's one by Luisa Canovi, made of five modules from A5 paper
http://www.giladorigami.com/origami-database/Icosahedron%20Luisa%20Canovi

a long time ago I used it to make a giant d20:
https://enricap.deviantart.com/art/oversized-d20-5092494
https://enricap.deviantart.com/art/origami-dice-set-6966057
but it's not very stable, it works well for smaller polyhedra but the
icosahedron falls apart easily. However it's pretty easy to tape in
from the inside, if you are willing to cheat ;)

By looking for it, I found this page where you can download the
handouts from a course Luisa held
http://officine.fabriano.com/origami-le-dispense-di-luisa-canovi/ (in Italian)
It includes a module by Pietro Macchi which can be used to make an
icosahedron, each face is made by two halves. I haven't tried it
myself and I'm afraid it's going to have the same problem: good with
fewer units but not so much with a lot of them

all the best,
enui

Re: [Origami] Permission question

[PATRICIA GRODNER]

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:10 AM, Andrew Hans  wrote:
> 
> I am curious then, as to why Origami OUSA has a different opinion. They
> require us to get permission from the model designer or the estate if
> deceased in order to teach a model at their convention. Is there someone
> from that organization that cares to comment and offer their perspective on
> things?
> 
> Andrew Hans

OrigamiUSA understands the concerns within the origami community regarding 
copyright issues.  As a community that places high value on respect for the 
work of our artists and scholars, it is important to continue to pay attention 
to this important issue. OrigamiUSA has spent considerable time and discussion 
forming policies regarding the use of and permission for teaching, displaying 
and publishing origami models. These discussions take place both at the level 
of the Board of Directors and at the committee level through our Copyright 
Committee, which develops and maintains the copyright policies of OrigamiUSA.  
As can be seen by the recent discussion on this list, there are many opinions 
as well as many constituencies.  The best way for OrigamiUSA to have good 
policies for our community is to continue to monitor and respond to changes in 
the world around us.
 
Copyright law is murky on this topic: there are opinions from qualified lawyers 
on both sides of the issue. In formulating our policy of getting permission, 
OrigamiUSA strives to balance the desires of teachers who don’t want to have to 
ask permission, the desires of artists who wish to be asked, what we currently 
know about copyright law, and prevailing etiquette and mores in formulating the 
policy. While it may not (and cannot) satisfy everyone, many artists have 
expressed their appreciation for being asked; similarly, many teachers 
appreciate the blanket “no need to ask me” permissions given by those who have 
given that on this list.
 
Kind regards,
Patty Grodner
On behalf of OrigamiUSA, Communications 

[Origami] Origami paper: answers, not questions

[Ekaterina Lukasheva]

Hi everyone,

I made a comprehensive post on the types of harmony origami paper for
modulars (mainly focusing on 7.5cm size) with examples and links, enjoy!
https://blog.kusudama.me/2017/09/09/harmony-modular-origami-paper/

If somebody missed my post about acrylic painting of the paper, here it is:
https://blog.kusudama.me/2017/07/09/howto-paint-origami-paper/

-- 
Best Regards,
Ekaterina Lukasheva
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Re: [Origami] Origami Digest, Vol 137, Issue 5

[joseignacio . royo]

- Mensaje de Jorge Jaramillo


Does anyone know of a modular
icosahedron with plain faces and a strong lock?


Two come up to mind. Both of them look clean, plain-faced and are quite solid:

1) In David Mitchell's "Mathematical Origami" there's an icosahedron  
by Tomoko Fuse which fits your description. Five modules.


2) There's another icosahedron by Tomoko Fuse with those  
characteristics in an Origami Tanteidan Magazine, some  (eight?) years  
ago. I cannot check the exact number now.


All the best.


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Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Dick and Serena LaVine]

On 9/7/2017 2:10 PM, Andrew Hans wrote:





*I am curious then, as to why Origami OUSA has a different opinion .
Theyrequire us to get permission from the model designer or the estate
ifdeceased in order to teach a model at their convention. Is there
someonefrom that organization that cares to comment and offer their
perspective onthings?*

I'm a member of the convention committee with primary responsibility for
setting up the class schedules. A key part of that job is to make sure that
teachers have permission from the artists to teach their models.

Aside from any legal or copyright issues (covered extensively on the
OrigamiUSA website), I believe it's important to show respect for the
creators' artistry and hard work.

In the 7 or so years I've been working in this area, I've found that most
artists are very appreciative of this courtesy.  Also, in the spirit of
sharing that characterizes so much of what goes on in the origami
community, most are very happy to share their designs with the
teachers.  However, there have been occasions when permission has been
denied. So, all in all, it seems judicious, as well as respectful and
courteous, to make the effort.

Serena
//

Re: [Origami] Permission question

[KDianne Stephens]

> But for those (big universe) who might not even know about the origami 
> community, well, we can’t expect something too far from general common 
> sense.

>In the field of copyrights, "general common sense" could be unethical or even 
>illegal because there are conflicts of interest between content creators and 
>content users. The creators >want to manage the use of their contents, whereas 
>the uses want to use their contents freely

A mere laymen's perspective, US copyright law 17 US Code 107 Limitations on 
exclusive rights: Fair use  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/10 does 
use the subjective terminology "general common sense".

ORIFUN to all,
Dianne

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Re: [Origami] Permission question

[Andrew Hans]

OK, now I'm really confused--First of all, Ron, I think you meant Laura's
opinion and not Layla's. For the life of me I can't see the logic of a
higher ground as a safety precaution against the possibility of dissenting
copyright owners... What does that even mean?  It's an origami model, not
state secrets. I buy a book of someone's model or models. I learn and fold
said model(s).  I like the model and want to share it with my fellow
folders. Why, (other than being polite) must I ask permission to teach it
to someone else at a convention?  The concept boggles the mind.  I just
don't get it.

Andrew

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ronald Koh  wrote:

>
>
> On 9/7/2017 2:10 PM, Andrew Hans wrote:
>
>> I am curious then, as to why Origami OUSA has a different opinion. They
>> require us to get permission from the model designer or the estate if
>> deceased in order to teach a model at their convention.
>>
>> Not everybody shares Ilan's and Layla's opinions regarding copyrights,
> which are only applicable to their own origami creations. I believe OUSA is
> simply sticking to the higher ground as a safety precautions against the
> possibility of complications arising from dissenting copyright owners of
> other origami creations.
>
> Ron
>
>