Re: [Origami] : Magazine cover box origins
> On 25 Jul 2021, at 09.11, David Mitchell > wrote: > > jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de wrote: > >> From 1927 up to 1998 35 editions of 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' by >> Johanna Huber appeared. The first 1. edition from 1927 has 56 pages. In the >> years of world war II the editions were reduced to 39 pages. In the first >> years after the war the editions were reduced, too - again to 39 pages. The >> 11. edition in 1960 and the following 6 editions were enhanced to 72 pages. >> May be that is the point when the cover box came into the book. However, >> there is a further possibility for this because in 1980 there was a great >> change: Johanna Huber got a co-author - Christel Claudius - and the new >> edition became the first one with 124 pages. This edition was the base for >> the English translation. > > Meanwhile Michel Grand has found the relevant page from the 1904 edition of > 'Handbüchlein der Papierfaltekunst' on a booksellers site and I have added it > to my page about the magazine cover box along with another publication from > 1926 from France that Michel also knew about. Clearly Johanna Huber has published many folding books. I have "Ein lustiges Faltbuchlein mit allerhand Drum und Dran für Mütter und Kinder", no print year, but the Vorwort is signed January 1925. 56 pages plus a picture of Kleine Stadt. But no magazine cover box.
Re: [Origami] : Magazine cover box origins
jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de wrote: >From 1927 up to 1998 35 editions of 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' by >Johanna Huber appeared. The first 1. edition from 1927 has 56 pages. In the >years of world war II the editions were reduced to 39 pages. In the first >years after the war the editions were reduced, too - again to 39 pages. The >11. edition in 1960 and the following 6 editions were enhanced to 72 pages. >May be that is the point when the cover box came into the book. However, there >is a further possibility for this because in 1980 there was a great change: >Johanna Huber got a co-author - Christel Claudius - and the new edition became >the first one with 124 pages. This edition was the base for the English >translation. Thanks for this. >Presently I am on holiday with my MacBookPro including the origami >bibliography list, but without my origami library. In two or three weeks I >will look into my origami books. Then I will get back to you asap. I look forward to hearing from you. Meanwhile Michel Grand has found the relevant page from the 1904 edition of 'Handbüchlein der Papierfaltekunst' on a booksellers site and I have added it to my page about the magazine cover box along with another publication from 1926 from France that Michel also knew about. Dave
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins (David Mitchell)
Hello David, David Mitchell wrote: > > jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de wrote: > > >The Magazine Cover Box did not appear in 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' > >by Johanna Huber. Most of the issues of this book are in my hands. > > How curious! It's in the 'translation' see > https://archive.org/details/easyfunpaperfold00hube/page/66/mode/2up > >From 1927 up to 1998 35 editions of 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' by >Johanna Huber appeared. The first 1. edition from 1927 has 56 pages. In the >years of world war II the editions were reduced to 39 pages. In the first >years after the war the editions were reduced, too - again to 39 pages. The >11. edition in 1960 and the following 6 editions were enhanced to 72 pages. >May be that is the point when the cover box came into the book. However, there >is a further possibility for this because in 1980 there was a great change: >Johanna Huber got a co-author - Christel Claudius - and the new edition became >the first one with 124 pages. This edition was the base for the English >translation. Presently I am on holiday with my MacBookPro including the origami bibliography list, but without my origami library. In two or three weeks I will look into my origami books. Then I will get back to you asap. Best regards, Helge --- Jens-Helge Thülen-Dahmen E-Mail: jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de Internet: www.faltkunst.mozello.de/home
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins
jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de wrote: >The Magazine Cover Box did not appear in 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' by >Johanna Huber. Most of the issues of this book are in my hands. How curious! It's in the 'translation' see https://archive.org/details/easyfunpaperfold00hube/page/66/mode/2up >But you found the folding instruction in "Handbuechlein der Papierfaltekunst." >by Joseph Sperl, published in 1904 on page 18 (or 1920 edition on the same >page). Thank you for this. I'll try to look it up! Dave
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins
Philip Chapman-Bell wrote: > Also in James Sakoda's Modern Origami (1969) as How to Fold a Box. He cites > Marie Gilbert Martin's Weaver's Shuttle Box in her book, Pasteless > Construction with Paper (1951). Thank you for these references. I will try to track them down and add them to my page. Dave
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins
Hello, David Mitchell wrote: > The design probably first appeared in 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltb?chlein' by > Johanna Huber, which was originally published in Germany in 1927. > > Karen Reeds wrote: > > >Please do say more about evidence for the likely German origins of the > >Magazine Cover Box. The Magazine Cover Box did not appear in 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbuechlein' by Johanna Huber. Most of the issues of this book are in my hands. But you found the folding instruction in "Handbuechlein der Papierfaltekunst." by Joseph Sperl, published in 1904 on page 18 (or 1920 edition on the same page). Best regards Jens-Helge --- Jens-Helge Thuelen-Dahmen E-Mail: jens-helge.dah...@gmx.de Internet: www.faltkunst.mozello.de/home
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins
Also in James Sakoda's Modern Origami (1969) as How to Fold a Box. He cites Marie Gilbert Martin's Weaver's Shuttle Box in her book, Pasteless Construction with Paper (1951). Yours, Philip Chapman-Bell Northampton, MA
Re: [Origami] Magazine cover box origins
Karen Reeds wrote: >Please do say more about evidence for the likely German origins of the >Magazine Cover Box. As far as I know diagrams for the Magazine Cover Box were first published in 1978 in Vol 13 issue 4 of the Origamian. The diagrams include the information that 'Emily Rosenthal learned this in her German childhood - from whom she does not remember'. The design probably first appeared in 'Das Lustiges Papierfaltbüchlein' by Johanna Huber, which was originally published in Germany in 1927. I say 'probably' because although the design can be found in the English translation, as 'Easy and Fun Paperfolding', published in the 1970s, I think, I have not seen a copy of the original book (and can't find one online). If anyone has an early copy of the original work and can check for me I will be truly grateful. (Just to confuse things slightly, there is a photo in Issue 238 of the Buenos Aires edition of the magazine 'Caras y Caretas', published on 25th March 1905, which shows an open box of otherwise unknown design. It is just possible that this is the Magazine Cover Box, although the reproduction is too grainy to allow for certainty.) >How can independent invention be ruled out! It never can be. It's a bit like trying to prove a negative. All we can do is look at the positive evidence. And, as far as I know, there is no sufficiently early evidence of the existence of this design from Japan to substantiate the idea that it is originally a Japanese design. Dave
