orion-list MORE IMPORTANT NEWS
Many of you have expressed regrets at the closing of the Orion List, and I too would like to add express my regrets, and also provide a little more of an explanation regarding the decision. The fundemental problem is that of human resources. At this moment in time (as it has been for the last two years) there are no interns here at the Orion Center. This is in part due to the decrease in Students at the Rothberg school (for obvious reasons). This means the Moderator (that's me) has more to do, and the proper maintainance of the web site suffers. All of this has been compounded by the preparations for the Virtual Qumran addition to the web site, which will double the size of the site and require more maintenance. This is even further compounded by my resignation (to be actioned at the end of this week). The overall effect is that something has to give, and it was the discussion group. My hope is that the list will be reopened in some shape or form in the coming year. My personal recommendatiion is that two lists are opened, one for research students and lecturers (that will be very carefully controlled with respect to who is admitted). and the other for general use. My dream would be to manage a closed discussion group that would be associated to a series of regular lectures (such as the coffee hour lectures, or the symposium unedited papers when they are published on the web site). This would allow the moderator to be more proactively involved in the discussions. The potential for the list is enormous but the workers are few. :) An alternative option is to leave the list open and unmoderated (as some of you have suggested), but I am absolutley terrified at the potential havoc this would cause. ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list IMPORTANT NOTICE ORION LIST MEMBERS
PLEASE NOTE THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR THE ORION LIST WILL CEASE TO FUNCTION AS IT PREVIOUSLY HAD. THERE WILL NO LONGER BE A MODERATED DISCUSSION GROUP. INSTEAD OF THIS, THE MAILING LIST WILL BE A WAY FOR LIST MEMBERS TO RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT ORION CENTER ACTIVITIES. THIS CHANGE IS DUE TO A RESHAPING OF THE ORION CENTER AND REDISTRIBUTION OF CENTER STAFF. ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
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The Canadian Friends of the Hebrew University Present: Dr. Esther Chazon Speaking on: Magic in the Dead Sea Scrolls Tuesday, November 26th, 2002 at 8:00 PM. Beit Tikvah Synagogue 3080 Bayview Avenue Toronto Free Admission, All welcome. ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Bibliography Interruptions
Please note that due to the coming holidays the bibliography will not be updated this Monday (16th Sept) nor the following Monday (23rd Sept). As a compromise we shall be updating it on Thursday 19th September. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. Sorry also for the late delivery ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
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I would like to express my condolences to all those affected by yesterdays terrorist attack. ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Conference Announcement (fwd)
I don't remember if I have posted this already, apologies if I have. ...Orion-List Moderator. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:45:19 +0200 From: zangenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Conference Announcement Dear Moderator, On behalf of my colleague Dr. Katharina Galor I wish to inform all ORION readers of an international conference on Qumran archaeology to be held on November 18/19 at Brown University (see attachment). We would very much appreciate it if you could post the announcement on the ORION list. With many thanks for your help and all best wishes, Dr. Jürgen Zangenberg CONFER~1.DOC Description: Binary data
orion-list Reminder
This Sunday there are a series of seminars some of you may be interested in. ON THE BOUNDARY LINE BETWEEN TEXT AND LITERARY CRITICISM (in the presence of Professor Alexander Rofe) 10:00am - 5:00pm, Sunday, 16 June, 2002 Conference Hall, Kreitman Building Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Beer Sheva ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Division to parashot in the scrolls (fwd)
Hello, Is there an indication in the scrolls of a division to parashot? Does anyone know of evidence for division into parashot in the second Temple era? Was there a division to parashot in the Greek Septaguint? Thank You Bruria Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list New Publications
Account Subtitle: A Revised Edition of the Author's Untold Story of Qumran Price: $22.40 Available at pre-publication discount. Post Publication Price: $28.00, SAVE $5.60 (while copies last) Format: Paperback Size (in): 6 x 9 Pages: 241 Photos/Illustrations: 7 Maps/Plans: 2 Publication Year: Forthcoming 2002 (reprint of the 1976) For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
There will be a Scholar's Seminar this week: Wednesday 22nd May, 12:00, Rm 4121, Humanities, Mt. Scopus, Hebrew U. ...Orion-List Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Coffee Hour Reminder
Please note that there will be a Coffee Hour this Wednesday at the Orion Center Scholar's room (Humanities 6115). ...Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Periodical rules reminder
Please pay particular attention to the numbers 12 and 13, these tend to trip up most users. ...Moderator --- 1. To post to the entire list, address your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are posting privately to an individual, please ensure that you are not sending to the Orion list simultaneously. Check the address header carefully. As of Sept. 1997, the list is configured so that the Reply to address points to the Orion list. If you wish to reply to an individual privately, you must type in the address. 2. Please stay on topic. This list is for the academic discussion of ideas and information relating to the Dead Sea Scrolls and associated literature. Interested laypersons are certainly welcome to participate and to raise questions. 3. Please adopt a courteous tone of discourse. 4. Try to consolidate your messages so that you do not post too often during a short period of time. An exception is the posting of sequential replies if a thread is particularly active but this should be the exception, not the rule. In other words, if you're posting three or more times a day, that is probably excessive. 5. Avoid me, too postings. If you wish to thank someone or merely to second an opinion, it would be best to do so via private e-mail. 6. Please sign your postings with your name, not a screen name. Geographical information and institutional affiliation are highly recommended. 7. Edit quoted messages. If you are quoting a previous message, please use only the relevant sections, rather than quoting the entire message. 8. Use precise subject headings. If the thread meanders onto another topic, then by all means change the subject heading to reflect the topic. If you are addressing several topics in a single subject heading, they may be included as a multiple heading (e. g. 4QMMT; Teacher of Righteousness; Apocalyptic). 9. Be brief. Please try not to exceed 4K. To stay within this limit you should quote only what is absolutely relevant. If you quote the header or other extraneous material, it will bounce back to you. 10. Do not post messages on behalf of someone who is not subscribed unless you have the permission of the original writer AND the permission of the moderator. Public messages such as announcements of conferences, lectures, etc., may be posted on the Orion list. If you want to post a notice on our web site, send the details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Remember to include relevant dates, addresses and phone numbers (calls for papers and job openings should indicate a closing date). 11. Do not post copyrighted material (e.g., newspaper articles, articles posted on web sites) unless you own the copyright or have the copyright owner's permission to do so. Please include a note stating that permission has been granted, as well as proper acknowledgements. If the material exceeds 4K, consult with the moderator first. It is permitted to quote small sections of an article in the course of a discussion as this constitutes fair use. Posting URLs for web sites is permitted. 12. Do not post messages with attachments, graphics or in rtf or html formats. These come through as garbage in the digests. If you do not know how to turn off these modes, take a look at this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm. 13. When replying to messages on the Orion list please remember to remove the message trailor from the message you are replying to. The message trailor consists of the last four lines of the message you have received, the last line of the trailor, is written in capital letters and will remind you of this task. 14. Last but not least, this article on mailing list etiquette is short and to the point. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
This Wednesday (24th April) will be the Coffee hour special lecture. Dr Alexander Kulik, Orion Scholarship Recipient 2001, Baruch HaShlishi - Jewish or Christian? .Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Guest Lecture
Please note that there will be a guest lecture here at the Hebrew University in the Institute of Archaelogy (Mt. Scopus), Room 302, on Sunday, April 21, 2002. Prof. Sharon Herbert New Light on the Hellenistic Archive of the Second Century B.C. Discovered at Tel Kedesh. .Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list The holiday period
Please note that during the Holiday break there will be a limited amount of services provided by the Orion Center. This means that only urgent messages directed to the list moderator will be responded to, and the Bibiography will not be updated. I would like to take this time to wish all list members a happy Pesah/Easter (delete as appropriate) holiday. .Moderator..;-) For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list AOL access
Dear all Those of you who have been using AOL to post messages messages to the Orion List in text only mode, please write to me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
I would like to take this time to remind users of the Orion-List rules (Please pay carefull attention to to numbers 12 and 13). 1. To post to the entire list, address your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are posting privately to an individual, please ensure that you are not sending to the Orion list simultaneously. Check the address header carefully. As of Sept. 1997, the list is configured so that the Reply to address points to the Orion list. If you wish to reply to an individual privately, you must type in the address. 2. Please stay on topic. This list is for the academic discussion of ideas and information relating to the Dead Sea Scrolls and associated literature. Interested laypersons are certainly welcome to participate and to raise questions. 3. Please adopt a courteous tone of discourse. 4. Try to consolidate your messages so that you do not post too often during a short period of time. An exception is the posting of sequential replies if a thread is particularly active but this should be the exception, not the rule. In other words, if you're posting three or more times a day, that is probably excessive. 5. Avoid me, too postings. If you wish to thank someone or merely to second an opinion, it would be best to do so via private e-mail. 6. Please sign your postings with your name, not a screen name. Geographical information and institutional affiliation are highly recommended. 7. Edit quoted messages. If you are quoting a previous message, please use only the relevant sections, rather than quoting the entire message. 8. Use precise subject headings. If the thread meanders onto another topic, then by all means change the subject heading to reflect the topic. If you are addressing several topics in a single subject heading, they may be included as a multiple heading (e. g. 4QMMT; Teacher of Righteousness; Apocalyptic). 9. Be brief. Please try not to exceed 4K. To stay within this limit you should quote only what is absolutely relevant. If you quote the header or other extraneous material, it will bounce back to you. 10. Do not post messages on behalf of someone who is not subscribed unless you have the permission of the original writer AND the permission of the moderator. Public messages such as announcements of conferences, lectures, etc., may be posted on the Orion list. If you want to post a notice on our web site, send the details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Remember to include relevant dates, addresses and phone numbers (calls for papers and job openings should indicate a closing date). 11. Do not post copyrighted material (e.g., newspaper articles, articles posted on web sites) unless you own the copyright or have the copyright owner's permission to do so. Please include a note stating that permission has been granted, as well as proper acknowledgements. If the material exceeds 4K, consult with the moderator first. It is permitted to quote small sections of an article in the course of a discussion as this constitutes fair use. Posting URLs for web sites is permitted. 12. Do not post messages with attachments, graphics or in rtf or html formats. These come through as garbage in the digests. If you do not know how to turn off these modes, take a look at this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm. 13. When replying to messages on the Orion list please remember to remove the message trailor from the message you are replying to. The message trailor consists of the last four lines of the message you have recieved, the last line of the trailor, is written in capital letters and will remind you of this task. 14. Last but not least, this article on mailing list etiquette is short and to the point. These rules can also be found on the Orion Website: http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/orion/discussion.shtml If you have any questions, please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Symposium papers
The first full paper from the Orion Symposium has been posted on the Orion Website: http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il/orion/symposiums/7th/ It is by George Brooke. Please note that only unedited versions of the paper will appear on the website. Moderator The abstracts are also available. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
Dear all This Tuesday at 20:00 (15/01/2002) there will be a Scrolls Forum at the Israel Museum's Shrine of the Book. Moderator. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list PBI Meeting: reminder
There wil be a lecture this Friday(12th Jan) 10:30-12:00 at the Pontifical Biblical Institute,3 Emil Botta Street, Jerusalem. Dr. David Satran (Comparative Religion Dept., Hebrew University) Sectarianism, Heresy and Truth: Early Christian Perspectives ..Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
There will be a lecture at the Pontifical Biblical Institute this Friday (7th Dec.) 10:30-12:00. Dr. Esther Chazon The Qumran Community and Related Groups Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Coffee Hour Presentation
The coffee hour presentation WILL take place this Wednesday (5th Dec.) at 12:00 in Room 4121. Jonathan Ben Dov The Significance of Priestly Guards in Calendrical Texts from Qumran ...Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Wednesday's Coffee hour
Please note that due to the current strike there will NOT be a 'Coffee Hour' on Wednesday 14th November. Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILER BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Lecture Series in Judaic Studies
The Department of Judaic Studies, University of Cincinnati, invites all Orion readers in our region to participate in the 2001 Jacob and Jeanie L. Lichter Lecture Series in Judaic Studies: THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS: REVEALING THE INNER LIFE OF AN ANCIENT JEWISH SECT Tuesday, October 23, November 6 and 13 at 7:30 p.m. All Lectures will take place in 112 Lindner Hall, School of Business Administration, UC main campus. Tuesday, October 23, 7:30 p.m. PHOTOGRAPHING THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS: NEW TECHNOLOGIES REVEAL ANCIENT JEWISH TEXTS --BRUCE ZUCKERMAN, University of Southern California Tuesday, November 6, 7:30 p.m.-- THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS AND ANCIENT JEWISH SECTARIANISM: A SOCIAL SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE --ALBERT I. BAUMGARTEN, Bar Ilan University Tuesday, November 13, 2001, 7:30 p.m. THE INNER LIFE OF THE DEAD SEA SCROLL COMMUNITY: IWHAT DO THE SCROLLS REVEAL? --LAWRENCE H. SCHIFFMAN, New York University All lectures are free to the public. For further information call the Department of Judaic Studies at 513-556-2297, write us at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or visit us at http://asweb.artsci.uc.edu/judaic/ The Lichter Lectures in Judaic Studies is made possible by the Jacob and Jennie L. Lichter Fund of the Jewish Federation of Cincinnati -- Steven Fine Jewish Foundation Chair of Judaic Studies, Head, Department of Judaic Studies, PO Box 210169 The University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Ohio, 45221-0169 513-556-0142 For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILER BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Orion Center Notice
Coffee hour discussions resume from Wednesday 31st October in the Scholars room (unless otherwise stated) here at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem (Rm 6115) between 12:00-13:00. I shall endeavor to keep you all informed of Guest speakers for this event. Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILER BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Bibliography
Please note that there will be no new bibliography entries on the web page today because of the holiday break. Also as a consequence of this break I will be delayed in responding to emails . Normal service will be resumed on Wednesday 10th Oct. Sorry for any inconvience caused Moderator For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILER BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Reminder
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orion-list RE: Are Essens Jewish?
In the current discussion on Pliny`s and Philo`s Essenians as Jews or Judeans, one point is I think, noteworthy: The fact that Josephus feels obliged to declare that the Essenians are Jews by birth, a remarkable statement if we were to ignore other sources on them than Philo`s. It seems as if in Josephus`time, there was a widely expanded opinion contesting the Jewishness of Essenes. Peter Janku For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il. (PLEASE REMOVE THIS TRAILOR BEFORE REPLYING TO THE MESSAGE)
orion-list Potential problems
It has come to my attention that a number of users of the orion-digest service have not been recieving postings (at least for the last month). If you have been affected by such a problem then please can you inform me if you want to switch service to the regular orion list as this is still working OK. I am very sorry for any inconvenience caused Admin. ps. Regular orion members please ignore this message For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.
orion-list Reminder: Sternburg Lecture
The Sternberg lecture will take place on 7th June, 10:30 a.m. at Litwinsky Senate Hall, Mt. Scopus, Hebrew University. Prof. John G. Gager From Jesus to Paul: Reflections on the Achievements of David Flusser. Admin. For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.
orion-list RE: Replying to orion list messages
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There are at least two instances that I know if in Pesher Habbakuk in which the sect or community is referred to apparently as The House of Judah. db At 08:47 AM 5/8/2001 -0400, you wrote: Stephen Goranson writes: In Qumran scrolls, there are indeed claims about who is the true Judah (those who observe the law in the house of Judah), who the Where is there any notion of a difference between a 'true' Judah and a 'false' Judah, as opposed to a single Judah which is located somewhere on a map with people living there? Where do you see a textual sign that the doers of the law in Judah considered themselves the exclusive Judah-ites resident in Judah? Or that 'Judah' in the Qumran texts is functioning any differently than in its biblical uses (where there is no notion of a 'true' versus 'false' Judah)? Are you getting this view from a Qumran text, or from some other source, such as secondary scholarship? i.e. what is the source of your thinking on this? Greg Doudna For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: unsubscribe Orion. Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.
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From: Jurgen Zangenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: orion-list Jeroboam/ CD 7 -- and names Dear Dierk, dear colleagues, thanks for your comments on Sychar. It is interesting and fascinating that the discussion on important Qumran texts brings us so far north, to a region that too often has been neglected. However: - Sychar/Askar certainly was not located on top of a mountain. The settlement is normally associated with al-Askar in the plain 1.5km northeast of Tell Balata (Shechem) close to the spring/well that John 4,5-6 refers to. Cf. Jub 34,4 and the valuable discussion in James C.VanderKam, Textual and Historical Studies in the Book of Jubilees, 1977. Pp. 218-229. - I am rather cautious to see Sychar as a "strategic capital city of the region". Strategic it was, but "capital" for whom? While it is certainly possible that Samaritans and former inhabitants of Shechem (who were not necessarily also Samaritans, cf Josephus "Sidonians of Shechem" in Ant 12:258!) lived in the town, we have also some indication that maybe some Jews also did: mMen10:2 cf. S.Klein, Palstinisches im Jubilenbuch, Zeitschrift des Deutschen Palstina Vereins 57 (1934), 20. - There is no solid information so far that indicates a direct transition of Shechem's important role to Sychar. No archaeological excavations were carried out in Askar and surveys mostly produced Roman pottery (which does not exclude the presence of a Hellenistic predecessor, but does not help to establish one either). We cannot say how large the settlement was in the Hellenistic era which makes it difficult to speak of a "capital city". The texts alone are in my opinion not conclusive enough to see Sychar as "capital city". - I think: Sychar was one of the many settlements in the plain east of the Ebal/Gerizim valley. Its importance lies in the vicinity of a prolific spring and the Tomb of Joseph. The surrounding region was of interest to Jews, Samaritans and Samarians, members of all these groups probably were present there. - Vespasian founded Neapolis over an older settlement Mamortha/Mabartha (meaning "passage"; Josephus, Bellum 4:449; 1:63.92; Pliny, Naturalis Historia 5,69). So there is much more habitation around than just Sychar. For more information on Sychar please see the discussion in my dissertation: Jürgen Zangenberg, Frühes Christentum in Samarien. Topographische und traditionsgeschichtliche Studien zu den Samarientexten im Johannesevangelium, Tübingen: Francke Verlag 1998 (TANZ 27), pp. 96-106. and the important study: Hans-Martin Schenke, Jakobsbrunnen-Josephsgrab-Sychar. Topographische Untersuchungen und Erwgungen in der Perspektive von Joh 4,5.6. Zeitschrift des Deutschen Palstina Vereins 84 (1968) pp. 159-184. All the best Jürgen Dr. Jürgen Zangenberg Visiting Assistant Professor Yale Divinity School At 09:03 09.05.01 +0200, you wrote: Joh 4.5 clearly implicates that Åakir/Sychar [1], located on top of a mountain [2], indeed was strategic capital city of the region after the destruction of Shechem (Sichem), Tall BalÄta, around 110 BC, i.e., probably by John Hyrcan [2], until the foundation of Neapolis-NablÅs by Vespasian in 72 CE. [1] E.F. Campbell_BASOR 190, 1968, 35 [2] K. Elliger_JPOS 18, 1938, 11; cf. Test Judah 6.3f., Midrash WayyisaÂu 693.2 (Yalqutedition Å iloni) [3] G.E. Wright_ Shechem, London 1965, 70-72 Dierk For private reply, e-mail to Orion List Owner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from Orion, e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: "unsubscribe Orion." Archives are on the Orion Web site, http://orion.mscc.huji.ac.il.
