Re: Re: SMP/Linux/Hotspot/Orion problem.
robert can you tell us a little about your stable setup? David Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which jdk/kernel/glibc are you using? We have two production systems running a similar setup without any serious problems. Regards, Robert On Tuesday 21 August 2001 22:35, you wrote: Did anyone find a real solution to this problem? I have 2 smp linux boxes that running -classic mode (which is painfully slow). I have considered removing (disabling) one of the CPS to fix it. The symptoms are long pauses of up to 5+ minutes, then everything is ok. Thanks, James
ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
I've been watching Orion for awhile using/testing. It so close to being ideal for me and my clients and we are ready to buy. But development seems to have stopped lately. Updates to the web site are virtually non-existant (ie ORION 1.2 released on main site)...meanwhile we are up to 1.4.5 since Jan 22. I am happy with its current state. I just sucessfully tested SSL with it. I haven't done much in terms of EJB yet, but my experiences with orion still have been great. SO ORION - Please get your act together. Or if you must go out of businessdo it soonso I can look at enhydra/weblogic/websphere again...I haven't looked at them in awhile because I have been happy with orion. It's for your own good. You obviously have some great programmers who developed this product. They should either keep working on it, or find another product to work on. Best of luck David
Re: Re: ORION RISE FROM THE DEAD!
I really hope that Orion is released into the open-source community if they're going to tank as a business. I never thought of that. I guess the real question may be: "What is Orion's/Ironflare's business model?" Taking a wild guess, not based on any first hand knowledge/contact/experience, the 'problem' may be that orion's developer's want to continue programming and not become consultants, support technicians, etc... Which would be great to have quality developers on the project full time, but this seems contrary to a lot of the service models that are out there now. A lot of companies now repackage open source and get paid on service/consulting. Perhaps they need a quality partner or need to be bought out (maybe macromedia should have bought them out instead of buying allaire)...who knows...I'm not an expert in this field as I'm sure my views have proved. So I may be way off base. I'm just an avid java developer with a small, nimble company that likes to develop and utilize small, quick, and well-written software. (did you also ever notice that orion seems to be at most h! ! ! alf the size of other major app servers?) By the way, if some help is needed to host (or provide an alternative to) orionsupport, please let me know. I know the boss here; I'm sure we could work something out. I think a lot of people would help out in this department (including myself), especially if it was open source. I already have a kind of how-to in the works for SSL using chained certificates from Entrust.net. David
productive comment.
David, nothing personal, I'm just hanging my reply off yours as it's the latest one in this thread...BUT some of us are very bored of this thread popping up every few weeks. Sure, Orion hasn't released a new version in a couple of months now (I think), and I'm as desperately eager for 1.4.8 as anyone here. Why does this always translate to 'Orion is tanking'? I know where you are coming from. I love orion. The problem I have is when I have to rationalize its use to others. Here's the most basic recommendation that I think would go a long way (believe it or not) UPDATE THE WEB SITE ONCE A WEEK include simple news...even just a paragraph or to. perhaps explaining latest updates (in betas). If you have no newsadd link to new clients/web sites...I'm sure ...this would take about 10 minutes a week and would go a long way in helping me convince people to buy it...believe it or not. I know it has no relevance on the quality of the product, but it would make a huge difference in giving the people I work with confidence in Orion's future. This is necessary because orion is not open source and we can not update the orionserver.com site as a community. I know this is what orionsupport is for, however, when I have to get people to commit money to a product simple things go a long way. I hope this was a more productive comment.
Re: Re: Port forwarding
I have it running on a 4ip host where each interface (ip) is a different web site which is what I think you want to do right? Currently I have a 4ip hostfor argument sake: IP 1 - apache bound to port 80 IP 23 - orion bound to port 80 (unfortunately as root...why I'm trying all this)...up and doing BUSINESS IP 4 - orion bound to 10080...it is responding to http://ip:10080 and local 'telnet IP#4 10080' (i wanted this just for now, I will add more security when I get working) The problem I ran into is that if I configured each site to only listen on the relevant interface (port= in web-site tag) it didn't work. I had to say port="[ALL]". So I gave each site (interface) a different port 1024 and did the ipchains for each, just as you have done. I'm not quite sure what you are saying, but we are getting somewhere...I got orion to bind to port 10080...I have it in 2 places default-web-site.xml and mysite.xml. both with hardcoded IP and port. It is responding as that ip/port and not conflicting with other apache and orion. I've never heard of port="[ALL]".sounds pretty scary to me. it binds to all ports? What do you have in default vs. your virtual hosts? I also hadded a virutal-hosts entry and a frontend tag in the web site xml for each site - both were important but I can't remember what failed if you didn't include them. I have been frustrated with this for almost a monthI actually signed a contract with RedHat for server supportIf orion is responding to port 10080...I would think orion's part should be done.what do you think? I will let you know what Red Hat comes up with...and see if this so called services model is any good. I think the new kernel has better built in port forwarding...it would be a lot easier it seems if the firewall and server were on seperate machinesipchains/ip-masq were not built for local redirection..there are some hacks I can do, but I don't want to use software on my server that is installed on less than 1000 servers in the whole universe David On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, David Morton wrote: Has anybody gotten port-forwarding to work? I want orion to run as non-root user on Linux.I did see: http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/unixprocess.html The following is an excerpt: IP Chains (ipfw) IP Chains is a program that comes with recent versions of Linux that uses the ipfw library to specify rules for TCP/IP packets. For information about using it, refer to the howto. Here's a simple rule to tell all incoming TCP packets destined for port 80 to be forwarded to port 10080: [root@myhost]$ ipchains -A input --destination-port 80 -p tcp -j REDIRECT 10080 Warning: Use ipchains at own risk... You are recommended to read the documentation first, and have the machine in easy reach. This command needs to be executed each time the system is booted, so you may want to place it in a startup file somewhere. I tried ipchains rule with one change: ipchains -A input -d 192.168.0.4 80 -p tcp -j REDIRECT 10080 it didn't work. any suggestions? If anyone has working on one ip only (on a machine that has multiple ips like mine)...please send output of 'ipchains -L'...and any other ipmasqadm table output... Thanks David
