Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split the list

2000-10-18 Thread Miles Daffin


 Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to move these
 messages into their own folder.

Good idea.

 However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I recomend splitting
 the list into a few other lists.

Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the automatic ordering
of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I can see a root
message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages. What's so wrong
with that?

 Probably the most obvious split is between
 developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain, configure and
 install it.

Like I said - 2 news groups.






RE: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split the list

2000-10-18 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger

It's quite feasible for me to set up a news server (nntp, usenet style) on
my server if that's a viable solution. It'll take me a little bit of time,
as I'm not exactly familiar with running INN, but I can figure it out.

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote:

 I would agree too. I think if you split the list into ejb and web, it might
 limit the traffic a bit. Also, maybe a newbie list, or possibly a mailing
 list about how to configure Orion, set it up, install ejbs, servlets,
 applications, etc..there are a lot of questions on that front. A fourth (the
 first three being web, ejb, and configuration/setup) would be database
 related, if possible.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split
  the list
  
  
  
   Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to 
  move these
   messages into their own folder.
  
  Good idea.
  
   However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I 
  recomend splitting
   the list into a few other lists.
  
  Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the 
  automatic ordering
  of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I 
  can see a root
  message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages. 
  What's so wrong
  with that?
  
   Probably the most obvious split is between
   developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain, 
  configure and
   install it.
  
  Like I said - 2 news groups.
  
  
 
 

---
Joseph B. Ottinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo  HOMES.COM Developer





Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split the list

2000-10-18 Thread David Kenzik

IMO, the mailing list is just fine. If there are too many messages for your
inbox, then you should filter it away. All the popular mail clients will
handle this.

I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way, nor am the only one who
belongs to many other special-interest lists, all delivered via email and
filtered.

I belong to roughly 40 or so development lists, some of which average 40-50
messages a day. They happily get filtered away into their own folders. (In
fact, I just archived my Postfix users list from the past year-- 14,000+
messages.) 

If the list does need to be split, it should be split by the Orion folks as
they deem necessary. 

Please realize however, when talking about splitting the list into different
development disciplines, that is no longer Orion specific, it now becomes a
Java app development list-- which there are already many.

If someone volunteers to setup a web-based "message board" or a separate
NNTP server, then that is their perogative. But I do believe that not
keeping the product support channels centralized will not only confuse the
new users of Orion, but also be the cause of frustration trying to find out
which method of support is actually productive.

Thanks for listening.

-- 
David S. Kenzik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://kenzik.com
Original Music - http://mp3.com/text


  Joseph B. Ottinger said...

  It's quite feasible for me to set up a news server (nntp, usenet style) on
  my server if that's a viable solution. It'll take me a little bit of time,
  as I'm not exactly familiar with running INN, but I can figure it out.
  
  On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote:
  
   I would agree too. I think if you split the list into ejb and web, it might
   limit the traffic a bit. Also, maybe a newbie list, or possibly a mailing
   list about how to configure Orion, set it up, install ejbs, servlets,
   applications, etc..there are a lot of questions on that front. A fourth (the
   first three being web, ejb, and configuration/setup) would be database
   related, if possible.
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could split
    the list



 Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to 
move these
 messages into their own folder.

Good idea.

 However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I 
recomend splitting
 the list into a few other lists.

Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the 
automatic ordering
of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I 
can see a root
message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages. 
What's so wrong
with that?

 Probably the most obvious split is between
 developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain, 
configure and
 install it.

Like I said - 2 news groups.


   
   
  
  ---
  Joseph B. Ottinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo  HOMES.COM Developer