RE: Benchmarks should be better
Re: Security (run as root). In Unix/Linux, you don't have to. A guide to how to change this is posted at: http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/unixprocess.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Quinn Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 2:52 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Benchmarks should be better Just a little update.. I have completed benchmarks for the initial apache default index.html.en with 4 different http servers on Redhat 6.2 with AMD Thunderbird 650 and 128MB Ram. Apache 1.3.14 Tomcat 3.2 Weblogic 5.1 Orion 1.4.5 I couldn't believe my eyes when Orion served the static html faster than all of them (Beating apache by about a 30% margin using 20 threads with 5 sockets per thread. Another amazing thing was resource usage.. The highest CPU Usage I saw from Orion during the test was a mere 30 percent. If that is not a convincing factor, then I don't know what is. I still have some concerns about the security of orion (running on port 80 as root), and Apache is by nature a more memory intensive application. It uses a multi-process -vs- orion's multithreaded technique. Each process uses a few megs of memory, so for a large request base, apache will need more memory so it isn't getting page faults all over the place. ( I am also running oracle on this box which uses tonnes of memory as many know ) I'll slap in another 128M and see what happens. Any comments would be appreciated. Michael Quinn Software Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Quinn Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:19 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Benchmarks should be better Hey all, I was checking out the benchmarks on www.orionserver.com and they are quite interesting. There are a couple of things I am wondering, however. How does Orion serving dynamic content pit itself -vs- apache serving static content or mod_perl stuff. It would be nice to take the other "sucky" java servers out of the picture and see a baseline comparison of Orion -vs- Apache on a lot of different scenarios. On a side note, can somebody forward me some performance comparisons from weblogic? I know they can't be posted on the website, but I would like to see them. The reason I ask is of the following importance: I see a lot of job postings for knowledge of Weblogic. And about 50% of telephone interviews ask about it, or bring it up. I want to know how it performs. I'm thinking about setting up Weblogic with Apache and Orion, and doing some performance comparisons which I will be glad to share with everyone. Thanks for your interest, Michael _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Benchmarks should be better
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Michael Quinn wrote: Just a little update.. I have completed benchmarks for the initial apache default index.html.en with 4 different http servers on Redhat 6.2 with AMD Thunderbird 650 and 128MB Ram. Apache 1.3.14 Tomcat 3.2 Weblogic 5.1 Orion 1.4.5 I couldn't believe my eyes when Orion served the static html faster than all of them (Beating apache by about a 30% margin using 20 threads with 5 sockets per thread. Another amazing thing was resource usage.. The highest CPU Usage I saw from Orion during the test was a mere 30 percent. If that is not a convincing factor, then I don't know what is. I still have some concerns about the security of orion (running on port 80 as root), and Apache is by nature a more memory intensive application. It Running Orion as root is not recommended. There have been tutorials available from www.orionsupport.com that recommend better alternatives such as running Orion from port 8080 or whatever and using port redirection. This is what I currently use and I can run Orion as the orion user which I have created. I am pleased with Orion's results in CPU usage and memory. Keep the bench marks coming. uses a multi-process -vs- orion's multithreaded technique. Each process uses a few megs of memory, so for a large request base, apache will need more memory so it isn't getting page faults all over the place. ( I am also running oracle on this box which uses tonnes of memory as many know ) I'll slap in another 128M and see what happens. Any comments would be appreciated. Michael Quinn Software Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Quinn Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:19 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Benchmarks should be better Hey all, I was checking out the benchmarks on www.orionserver.com and they are quite interesting. There are a couple of things I am wondering, however. How does Orion serving dynamic content pit itself -vs- apache serving static content or mod_perl stuff. It would be nice to take the other "sucky" java servers out of the picture and see a baseline comparison of Orion -vs- Apache on a lot of different scenarios. On a side note, can somebody forward me some performance comparisons from weblogic? I know they can't be posted on the website, but I would like to see them. The reason I ask is of the following importance: I see a lot of job postings for knowledge of Weblogic. And about 50% of telephone interviews ask about it, or bring it up. I want to know how it performs. I'm thinking about setting up Weblogic with Apache and Orion, and doing some performance comparisons which I will be glad to share with everyone. Thanks for your interest, Michael _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Benchmarks should be better
how many requests/responses were simulated? - Original Message - From: Michael Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:52 AM Subject: RE: Benchmarks should be better Just a little update.. I have completed benchmarks for the initial apache default index.html.en with 4 different http servers on Redhat 6.2 with AMD Thunderbird 650 and 128MB Ram. Apache 1.3.14 Tomcat 3.2 Weblogic 5.1 Orion 1.4.5 I couldn't believe my eyes when Orion served the static html faster than all of them (Beating apache by about a 30% margin using 20 threads with 5 sockets per thread. Another amazing thing was resource usage.. The highest CPU Usage I saw from Orion during the test was a mere 30 percent. If that is not a convincing factor, then I don't know what is. I still have some concerns about the security of orion (running on port 80 as root), and Apache is by nature a more memory intensive application. It uses a multi-process -vs- orion's multithreaded technique. Each process uses a few megs of memory, so for a large request base, apache will need more memory so it isn't getting page faults all over the place. ( I am also running oracle on this box which uses tonnes of memory as many know ) I'll slap in another 128M and see what happens. Any comments would be appreciated. Michael Quinn Software Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Quinn Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:19 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Benchmarks should be better Hey all, I was checking out the benchmarks on www.orionserver.com and they are quite interesting. There are a couple of things I am wondering, however. How does Orion serving dynamic content pit itself -vs- apache serving static content or mod_perl stuff. It would be nice to take the other "sucky" java servers out of the picture and see a baseline comparison of Orion -vs- Apache on a lot of different scenarios. On a side note, can somebody forward me some performance comparisons from weblogic? I know they can't be posted on the website, but I would like to see them. The reason I ask is of the following importance: I see a lot of job postings for knowledge of Weblogic. And about 50% of telephone interviews ask about it, or bring it up. I want to know how it performs. I'm thinking about setting up Weblogic with Apache and Orion, and doing some performance comparisons which I will be glad to share with everyone. Thanks for your interest, Michael _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
