RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
If anybody is at JAOO this week, please ask Karl about this. Regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Solinsky, JasonSent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:01 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: EJB 2.0 Approved I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It isinteresting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oracle would be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code that hasn't been released. JWS This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
RE: RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
I have empirically observed a very high penalty on each call I make through a remote interface in the same JVM in 1.5.2. I haven't attempted to figure out how things are actually implemented, but something very expensive is happening each time a same-VM call is made. JWS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:33 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: AW:RE: EJB 2.0 Approved Sensitivity: Confidential Hi, as far as I know there is no cluster support for EJBs with the current version of the Orion server. Hence this means that the WebContainer and EJB Container are executed in the same virtual machine by default. This is ok, since RMI calls are expensive, so, if you don't have massive Front-End processing then you're not interested in separating the Web- from the EJB container. I guess Orion is doing the same as BEA WLS 5.1, this means, if the RMI call is going to the same virtual machine then it is resolved as a local call. The specification of local references is just an effort to make this performance optimization explicit and binding. Cheers, Markus Meisterernst *** T-Systems CSM GmbH Markus Meisterernst IT Architekt SyL Databases Middleware 13 Landgrabenweg 151 53227 Bonn Tel: +49 228 936 3442 Fax: +49 228 936 3476 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: www.t-systems.de *** If anybody is at JAOO this week, please ask Karl about this. Regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Solinsky, Jason Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB 2.0 Approved I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It is interesting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oracle would be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code that hasn't been released. JWS This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
Has it been declared approved formally? Or does the ballots suggest that it is going to be approved? Has any of the app server vendors come out with plans in rolling out their EJB2.0 servers? Satish -Original Message-From: Solinsky, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:01 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: EJB 2.0 ApprovedTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It isinteresting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oraclew ould be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code thath asn't been released. JWS--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact.-- This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
The referenced web page contains the following statement: "The Executive Commitee for SE/EE has approved this ballot." JWS -Original Message-From: GUNDA, Satish / RSAIFS - IOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:44 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: EJB 2.0 Approved Has it been declared approved formally? Or does the ballots suggest that it is going to be approved? Has any of the app server vendors come out with plans in rolling out their EJB2.0 servers? Satish -Original Message-From: Solinsky, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:01 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: EJB 2.0 ApprovedTHIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below.-- I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It isinteresting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oraclew ould be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code thath asn't been released. JWS--The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement:As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed.If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact.-- This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
It's still officially in PFD status but will be approved with the release of J2EE 1.3 coming out, as I understand it. I believe BEA rolled it out with WebLogic 6.1. Pramati has it too. Others will roll it out in the upcoming months - I assume Orion will be one of them. --- GUNDA, Satish / RSAIFS - IOM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has it been declared approved formally? Or does the ballots suggest that it is going to be approved? Has any of the app server vendors come out with plans in rolling out their EJB2.0 servers? Satish -Original Message- From: Solinsky, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB 2.0 Approved THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It is interesting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oraclew ould be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code thath asn't been released. JWS -- The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement: As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed. If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact. -- This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
RE: RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
I'm pretty sure Orion does not perform their version of EJBLocal without setting orion-ejb-jar copy-by-value=false in the orion-ejb-jar of the EJB. Setting this attribute will stop objects from being serialized passed between the EJB and the client. I am 99.9% sure that Orion does not perform this function without the attribute being set...not even if the client to the EJB is in the same VM. Orion provides as much support for clustering of EJBs as does WL5.1.. Clustering stateless session beans.. Clustering of entity beans that aren't cached.. (Pretty weak!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:33 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: AW:RE: EJB 2.0 Approved Sensitivity: Confidential Hi, as far as I know there is no cluster support for EJBs with the current version of the Orion server. Hence this means that the WebContainer and EJB Container are executed in the same virtual machine by default. This is ok, since RMI calls are expensive, so, if you don't have massive Front-End processing then you're not interested in separating the Web- from the EJB container. I guess Orion is doing the same as BEA WLS 5.1, this means, if the RMI call is going to the same virtual machine then it is resolved as a local call. The specification of local references is just an effort to make this performance optimization explicit and binding. Cheers, Markus Meisterernst *** T-Systems CSM GmbH Markus Meisterernst IT Architekt SyL Databases Middleware 13 Landgrabenweg 151 53227 Bonn Tel: +49 228 936 3442 Fax: +49 228 936 3476 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: www.t-systems.de *** If anybody is at JAOO this week, please ask Karl about this. Regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Solinsky, Jason Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB 2.0 Approved I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It is interesting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oracle would be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code that hasn't been released. JWS This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
RE: EJB 2.0 Approved
I understand that BEA will support it in version 6 which should be available real-soon-now. Steven -Original Message- From: satish.gunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:44 AM To: orion-interest Subject: RE: EJB 2.0 Approved Has it been declared approved formally? Or does the ballots suggest that it is going to be approved? Has any of the app server vendors come out with plans in rolling out their EJB2.0 servers? Satish -Original Message- From: Solinsky, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:01 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB 2.0 Approved THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED ON THE INTERNET - Please read the detailed disclaimer below. -- I haven't seen anything here about this: http://www.jcp.org/jsr/results/19-15-1.jsp The EJB 2.0 Standard was approved by the Java Community Process on Wednesday the 4th. Now that the orion developers can be sure that the standard will not change, what sort of timeline can we expect for implementation? The most critical component for me is the Local Interface. It is interesting that at Java One Larry Ellison bragged about how Oraclew ould be the first to implement EJB 2.0 using their brand new platform (Orion didn't get any direct mention). If Orion (or Oracle) is truly is to beat Weblogic in this race, then there must already be some developed code thath asn't been released. JWS -- The following message has been automatically added by the mail gateway to comply with a Royal Sun Alliance IT Security requirement: As this email arrived via the Internet you should be cautious about its origin and content. Replies which contain sensitive information or legal/contractual obligations are particularly vulnerable. In these cases you should not reply unless you are authorised to do so, and adequate encryption is employed. If you have any questions, please speak to your local desktop support team or IT security contact. -- This e-mail communication and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the designated recipients named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, disclosure, dissemination, or distribution of it or its contents is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify USPowerSolutions Corporation immediately by telephone at (617)547-3800 or via e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and destroy all copies of this communication and any attachments.
