RE: Orion and IIS

2000-08-22 Thread Holmes, George (TWIi London)
Title: RE: Orion and IIS





What you should really do is set-up an IIS virtual root (e.g. /protected). You then set this virtual root to forward to, for example, http://localhost:8088

SSL can be run on the virtual root, which will encrypt all incoming traffic as it has the following pattern:


CLIENT - IIS - ORION


However, the traffic back from Orion to the client will not be encrypted, as the outbound port from the (Orion) server won't be secured using SSL. If this a requirement you may have to think more carefully about the solution. One of the best ways I've seen of encrypting data between a browser and a server is to run the encryption software on a firewall (if this option is open). Most commercial, and even some freebie firewalls come with an encryption module that allows you to protect traffic up the point where it passes through the perimeter of your network, which is essentially all you're really interested in. There is no drastic need to encrypt point to point, and SSL performance through firewalls tends to be a lot better.

George


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-Original Message-
From: Dale Bronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:00 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Orion and IIS



You are correct... This is exactly what I want to do, not redirect.



- Original Message -
From: Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: Orion and IIS




I think you misunderstood his question. he meant forwarding, not
redirecting. he wants to set up IIS to provide SSL protection for pages
served by orion. IIS would serve as a proxy then. quite a difference. I'm
not an IIS expert but it looks as if what you propose would only send a
redirect for someone accessing the server root. so apart from not
protecting the pages you would not even redirect requests correctly (like
an appropriate mod_rewrite setup with apache would).


regards,


robert


At 21:10 21.08.00 , you wrote:
Hi,

Redirecting all requests from IIS to Orion is as easy as:

1. Create an ASP page in your default IIS directory (usually
InetPub/wwwroot) called default.asp

2. The contents of the file should be the two following lines:
%@ Language=VBScript %
% Response.Redirect(http://localhost:8080) %
(NOTE: Substitute the redirect URL to your servername:portnumber )

3. That's it!

Best of luck,

Runar.


(-) Robert Krüger
(-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH
(-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
(-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373
(-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de







RE: Orion and IIS

2000-08-21 Thread J.T. Wenting



maybe 
he wants to run ASP or ISAPI?

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin 
  DuffeySent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 23:28To: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Orion and IIS
  Why 
  would you want to? Orion has a much faster web server built in. Use that 
  instead..and toss IIS to the dogs.
  
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale 
BronkSent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:55 PMTo: 
Orion-InterestSubject: Orion and IIS
Anyone know how to set IIS to forward all requests to 
Orion?
Dale Bronk[EMAIL PROTECTED]Windscape 
Consulting, Inc.http://www.windscape.comMobile: 
404-918-2766Office: 
770-754-0498


Re: Orion and IIS

2000-08-21 Thread Dale Bronk



I would love to toss IIS to the dogs, but my smtp 
server's web admin is via ASP. That is the only reason I am running 
IIS. I am running it on a different than port than 80. The reason 
that I want to setup IIS to forward all requests to Orion is so I can setup SSL 
on IIS and have it forward all https requests to Orion. IIS has a very 
nice wizard to setupSSL and all the CA's have instructions for IIS and not 
Orion.

I would really like to not do this, but since Orion 
doesn't seem to answer any of the SSL questions/post to either orion-interest or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am left 
with no other choice. I have SSL working with a test cert, but I have the 
same problems as many others on this list with a prod cert. I don't want 
to really run Apache for this as then I would be running 2 different web 
servers.

So if anyone knows how to do any of the following, 
I would love some assistance:
1. Setup SSL prod cert (preferreably from Thawte) 
with Orion... Doesn't even look like Orion themselves have done 
this!
2. No of any servlet that will run 
ASP.
3. No how to make IIS forward/pipe all requests to 
Orion.

Thanks,
Dale

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  J.T. 
  Wenting 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:13 
  AM
  Subject: RE: Orion and IIS
  
  maybe he wants to run ASP or ISAPI?
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of Kevin DuffeySent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 
23:28To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Orion and 
IIS
Why would you want to? Orion has a much faster web 
server built in. Use that instead..and toss IIS to the 
dogs.


  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale 
  BronkSent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:55 PMTo: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: Orion and IIS
  Anyone know how to set IIS to forward all requests to 
  Orion?
  Dale Bronk[EMAIL PROTECTED]Windscape 
  Consulting, Inc.http://www.windscape.comMobile: 
  404-918-2766Office: 
770-754-0498


RE: Orion and IIS

2000-08-21 Thread Runar Svendsen



Hi,

Redirecting all requests from IIS to Orion is as easy 
as:

1. 
Create an ASP page in your default IIS directory (usually InetPub/wwwroot) 
called "default.asp"

2. The 
contents of the file should be the two following lines:
%@ 
Language="VBScript" %
% 
Response.Redirect("http://localhost:8080") %
(NOTE: 
Substitute the redirect URL to your servername:portnumber )

3. 
That's it!

Best 
of luck,

Runar.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale 
  BronkSent: 21. august 2000 14:14To: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: Re: Orion and IIS
  I would love to toss IIS to the dogs, but my smtp 
  server's web admin is via ASP. That is the only reason I am running 
  IIS. I am running it on a different than port than 80. The reason 
  that I want to setup IIS to forward all requests to Orion is so I can setup 
  SSL on IIS and have it forward all https requests to Orion. IIS has a 
  very nice wizard to setupSSL and all the CA's have instructions for IIS 
  and not Orion.
  
  I would really like to not do this, but since 
  Orion doesn't seem to answer any of the SSL questions/post to either 
  orion-interest or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am left 
  with no other choice. I have SSL working with a test cert, but I have 
  the same problems as many others on this list with a prod cert. I don't 
  want to really run Apache for this as then I would be running 2 different web 
  servers.
  
  So if anyone knows how to do any of the 
  following, I would love some assistance:
  1. Setup SSL prod cert (preferreably from Thawte) 
  with Orion... Doesn't even look like Orion themselves have done 
  this!
  2. No of any servlet that will run 
  ASP.
  3. No how to make IIS forward/pipe all requests 
  to Orion.
  
  Thanks,
  Dale
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
J.T. Wenting 
To: Orion-Interest 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:13 
AM
Subject: RE: Orion and IIS

maybe he wants to run ASP or ISAPI?

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Kevin DuffeySent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 
  23:28To: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: Orion and 
  IIS
  Why would you want to? Orion has a much faster 
  web server built in. Use that instead..and toss IIS to the 
  dogs.
  
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale 
BronkSent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:55 PMTo: 
Orion-InterestSubject: Orion and IIS
Anyone know how to set IIS to forward all requests to 
Orion?
Dale Bronk[EMAIL PROTECTED]Windscape 
Consulting, Inc.http://www.windscape.comMobile: 
404-918-2766Office: 
770-754-0498


RE: Orion and IIS

2000-08-21 Thread Robert Krueger


I think you misunderstood his question. he meant forwarding, not 
redirecting. he wants to set up IIS to provide SSL protection for pages 
served by orion. IIS would serve as a proxy then. quite a difference. I'm 
not an IIS expert but it looks as if what you propose would only send a 
redirect for someone accessing the server root. so apart from not 
protecting the pages you would not even redirect requests correctly (like 
an appropriate mod_rewrite setup with apache would).

regards,

robert

At 21:10 21.08.00 , you wrote:
Hi,

Redirecting all requests from IIS to Orion is as easy as:

1. Create an ASP page in your default IIS directory (usually 
InetPub/wwwroot) called "default.asp"

2. The contents of the file should be the two following lines:
%@ Language="VBScript" %
% Response.Redirect("http://localhost:8080") %
(NOTE: Substitute the redirect URL to your servername:portnumber )

3. That's it!

Best of luck,

Runar.

(-) Robert Krüger
(-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH
(-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
(-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373
(-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de