RE: Usage of the Service console...

2001-04-16 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)

I use the console for remote monitoring, and shutdown.
I also use the console to remote monitoring of sessions. DB support is now
available (I'm using Orion 1.4.7) so I touch records if needed. Editing user
profiles is built in, also, but relatively buggy. It's helpful, if you don't
get your hopes too high.

JP

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 1:32 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Usage of the Service console...
 
 
 My advice is to ignore all the GUI tools that come with Orion 
 and stick
 to Ant as a build-and-deploy tool.
 
 It is my strong suspicion that nobody is using, testing, or actively
 developing the GUI tools.  It is my personal opinion 
 (probably shared by
 many on this list) that this is a good thing.  I would rather see the
 Orion team's limited resources focused on the server core.
 
 Not that I think pretty GUI tools don't have a place, but there really
 is no limit to the amount of time one can sink into getting a GUI app
 working properly.  Ant works just fine.
 
 Jeff
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chaya Ramanujam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:10 PM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: Usage of the Service console...
 
 
 I've been playing with the Service console.  It took me way 
 longer to 
 create, install and deploy a J2ee app using the console than 
 it did when I 
 did everything myself on the command line (creating the directory 
 structures, creating very simple deployment descriptors, 
 creating the jar 
 and war files and finally editing the server.xml and 
 default-web-site.xml 
 files).
 
 I know the console is said to be "alpha" quality - but was 
 just curious - is 
 any one out there using the console on a regular basis?  Do 
 you find it 
 really useful?  In what scenarios do you find this more 
 useful - while 
 creating and deploying apps or for monitoring or for 
 redeploying apps?
 
 There seems to be a great deal of functionality in the 
 console, however the 
 lack of documentation/help is a big drawback.
 
 --Chaya.
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RE: Usage of the Service console...

2001-04-13 Thread Jeff Schnitzer

My advice is to ignore all the GUI tools that come with Orion and stick
to Ant as a build-and-deploy tool.

It is my strong suspicion that nobody is using, testing, or actively
developing the GUI tools.  It is my personal opinion (probably shared by
many on this list) that this is a good thing.  I would rather see the
Orion team's limited resources focused on the server core.

Not that I think pretty GUI tools don't have a place, but there really
is no limit to the amount of time one can sink into getting a GUI app
working properly.  Ant works just fine.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Chaya Ramanujam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:10 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Usage of the Service console...


I've been playing with the Service console.  It took me way longer to 
create, install and deploy a J2ee app using the console than 
it did when I 
did everything myself on the command line (creating the directory 
structures, creating very simple deployment descriptors, 
creating the jar 
and war files and finally editing the server.xml and 
default-web-site.xml 
files).

I know the console is said to be "alpha" quality - but was 
just curious - is 
any one out there using the console on a regular basis?  Do 
you find it 
really useful?  In what scenarios do you find this more useful - while 
creating and deploying apps or for monitoring or for redeploying apps?

There seems to be a great deal of functionality in the 
console, however the 
lack of documentation/help is a big drawback.

--Chaya.
_
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