Re: sending to this list always produces an error mail

2001-02-23 Thread KirkYarina

It's can be tough to find the address they're originally sent to, 
especially if there's more than one address in that domain subscribed or 
(worse yet) if it's an alias in a different domain.  The error message is 
generated via an alias (quit@...) and everything identifying the original 
address is missing from the message or headers.

Some lists handle this with periodic probes, sending a unique message to 
every address on the list that can identify the original address, and 
looking at the bounces.  It's can be a bit of work to create these if the 
list software doesn't support it, however.

Kirk Yarina

At 04:22 PM 2/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Maybe the list administrator should unsubscribe that email address...
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Edoardo Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:24 AM
>Subject: sending to this list always produces an error mail
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > sending to this mailing list always produces an error mail like the one
> > shown below.
> > I have tried to contact the postmaster mentioned in the error mail, but he
> > doesn't exist 
> >
> > Edo
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 23 February 2001 10:13
> > > To: Edoardo Comar
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Your message concerning RE: please tell me : does JMS work at
> > > all ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The person you have tried to contact is no longer employed at Netch
> > > Technologies.  You may wish to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, or
> > > visit us on the web, http://www.netch.se/ .
> > >
> > > This message is probably caused by one of the following recipient
> > > adresses:
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > If you feel this message is in error, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> > > get in touch with the mail administrator.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > /netch/
> > >
> > > The original message follows:
> > >
> > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Feb 23 11:12:55
> > > 2001Received: from ernst-hugo.netch.se
> > > (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.16.2.10])
> > > by atwood.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04056
> > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> > > Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [195.58.126.196])
> > > by ernst-hugo.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31261;
> > > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> > > Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [195.58.126.196])
> > > by druid.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13166;
> > > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:49:01 -0100
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> > > [193.114.95.2])
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> > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001
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> > >   SMTP id G97EQG00.45D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>Fri,
> > >   23 Feb 2001 09:37:28 +
> > > From: "Edoardo Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: RE: please tell me : does JMS work at all ?
> > > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:41:48 -
> > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> > >





Re: sending to this list always produces an error mail

2001-02-23 Thread Luis Javier Beltran

Maybe the list administrator should unsubscribe that email address...


- Original Message -
From: "Edoardo Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:24 AM
Subject: sending to this list always produces an error mail


> Hi
>
> sending to this mailing list always produces an error mail like the one
> shown below.
> I have tried to contact the postmaster mentioned in the error mail, but he
> doesn't exist 
>
> Edo
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 23 February 2001 10:13
> > To: Edoardo Comar
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Your message concerning RE: please tell me : does JMS work at
> > all ?
> >
> >
> >
> > The person you have tried to contact is no longer employed at Netch
> > Technologies.  You may wish to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, or
> > visit us on the web, http://www.netch.se/ .
> >
> > This message is probably caused by one of the following recipient
> > adresses:
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > If you feel this message is in error, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> > get in touch with the mail administrator.
> >
> > regards,
> > /netch/
> >
> > The original message follows:
> >
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Feb 23 11:12:55
> > 2001Received: from ernst-hugo.netch.se
> > (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.16.2.10])
> > by atwood.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04056
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> > Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [195.58.126.196])
> > by ernst-hugo.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31261;
> > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> > Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [195.58.126.196])
> > by druid.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13166;
> > Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:49:01 -0100
> > Received: from maps.knowledgeview.co.uk (maps.knowledgeview.co.uk
> > [193.114.95.2])
> > by paladin.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06179
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001
> > 12:37:54 -0500
> > Received: from edo ([193.114.95.145]) by
> >   maps.knowledgeview.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with
> >   SMTP id G97EQG00.45D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Fri,
> >   23 Feb 2001 09:37:28 +
> > From: "Edoardo Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: please tell me : does JMS work at all ?
> > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:41:48 -
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> > X-Mailer: Orion ListServer
> > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
> > Importance: Normal
> > Reply-To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Pey Yen.
> >
> > I don't understand how it can work for you, especially without editing
> > jms.xml.
> > I can avoid creating new connection factories, but I can't avoid
declaring
> > my destinations !!!
> >
> > If I do NOT edit jms.xml , I get
> > Error looking up objects: Error reading application-client descriptor:
No
> > location set for Topic resource jms/theTopic
> >
> > If I add a location=jms/theTopic attribute to
> > orion-application-client.xml I
> > get :
> > Error looking up objects: Error reading application-client
> > descriptor: Error
> > creating context: jms/theTopic not found
> >
> > regardless of the location attribute, if I add the jms/theTopic
> > to jms.xml,
> > then the lookup works (as expected) but I get :
> > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> > at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
> > at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
> > at com.evermind.server.jms.ck.(JAX)
> > at com.evermind.server.jms.b9.start(JAX)
> > at JMSChat.run(JMSChat.java:61)
> > at JMSChat.main(JMSChat.java:29)
> >
> > So I maintain tha JMS does not work at all. I have tried to use
> > weblogic and
> > my jms code works like a breeze

sending to this list always produces an error mail

2001-02-23 Thread Edoardo Comar

Hi

sending to this mailing list always produces an error mail like the one
shown below.
I have tried to contact the postmaster mentioned in the error mail, but he
doesn't exist 

Edo

> -Original Message-
> From: mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 February 2001 10:13
> To: Edoardo Comar
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Your message concerning RE: please tell me : does JMS work at
> all ?
>
>
>
> The person you have tried to contact is no longer employed at Netch
> Technologies.  You may wish to contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead, or
> visit us on the web, http://www.netch.se/ .
>
> This message is probably caused by one of the following recipient
> adresses:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If you feel this message is in error, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
> get in touch with the mail administrator.
>
> regards,
>   /netch/
>
> The original message follows:
>
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri Feb 23 11:12:55
> 2001Received: from ernst-hugo.netch.se
> (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.16.2.10])
>   by atwood.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04056
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [195.58.126.196])
>   by ernst-hugo.netch.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA31261;
>   Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:12:55 +0100
> Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [195.58.126.196])
>   by druid.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13166;
>   Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:49:01 -0100
> Received: from maps.knowledgeview.co.uk (maps.knowledgeview.co.uk
> [193.114.95.2])
>   by paladin.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06179
>   for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 23 Feb 2001
> 12:37:54 -0500
> Received: from edo ([193.114.95.145]) by
>   maps.knowledgeview.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with
>   SMTP id G97EQG00.45D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri,
>   23 Feb 2001 09:37:28 +
> From: "Edoardo Comar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: please tell me : does JMS work at all ?
> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:41:48 -
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Orion ListServer
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400
> Importance: Normal
> Reply-To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thank you,
> Pey Yen.
>
> I don't understand how it can work for you, especially without editing
> jms.xml.
> I can avoid creating new connection factories, but I can't avoid declaring
> my destinations !!!
>
> If I do NOT edit jms.xml , I get
> Error looking up objects: Error reading application-client descriptor: No
> location set for Topic resource jms/theTopic
>
> If I add a location=jms/theTopic attribute to
> orion-application-client.xml I
> get :
> Error looking up objects: Error reading application-client
> descriptor: Error
> creating context: jms/theTopic not found
>
> regardless of the location attribute, if I add the jms/theTopic
> to jms.xml,
> then the lookup works (as expected) but I get :
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NullPointerException
> at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:329)
> at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:306)
> at com.evermind.server.jms.ck.(JAX)
> at com.evermind.server.jms.b9.start(JAX)
> at JMSChat.run(JMSChat.java:61)
> at JMSChat.main(JMSChat.java:29)
>
> So I maintain tha JMS does not work at all. I have tried to use
> weblogic and
> my jms code works like a breeze.
>
> cheers
> Edo
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chia, Pei Yen
> > Sent: 23 February 2001 03:28
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: RE: please tell me : does JMS work at all ?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> >   The chat example works. You have to activate the JMS service in
> > /config/server.xml file (uncomment  ).
> >
> >   Don't modify anything from the original jms.xml. Then do the steps as
> > documented at "jmsdemo-readme.txt". It should be able to work.
> >
> >   I encountered the same problem at connection.start() when i tried to
> > include
> > 
> > location="jms/theTopicConnectionFactory" port="9127" />
> > at my jms.xml file.
> >
> >   I believe the chat example makes reference to the
> jndi.properties file.
> >
> >   I hope this helps.
> >
> >   I'm still trying to figure out why connection.start() fails as
> > i'm trying
> > to write a MEssageDrivenBean that needs to register the TopicFactory and
> > Topic for other clients to subscribe to. Still not successful yet. Any
> > pointers, anybody?
> >
> > Pei Yen
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behal