Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin]

Yup betul ape 2, this is all a learning process...

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:54 PM, saifuladli ismail <
ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote:

> mana ada merepek, at least we learn something from the argument.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
> jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I the youngest one in the community *I think* and I I do admire
>> all of big guys in community.
>>
>> I learned from Red1 that "the information are free, and the people are
>> not", has been driven my passion to contribute more to opensource project,
>> although only just translation.
>>
>> I learned from Rafe that "passion is a must", and because of that I'm
>> still in opensource business although it's hard to accept the reality of
>> life.
>>
>> I learned from Haris that "always give back to the community", and that's
>> why I'm really passionate to contribute in community project, although I
>> don't have that skills, or money, or time.
>>
>> saya tak kisah kalau kita ni bertelagah pandangan ke, nak suarakan
>> pendapat ke, but in the end we still eat and talk in same table like use to
>> be. that's what I do really admire about you guys.
>>
>> to conclude, let's stay unite and make something big. I always think about
>> that :)
>>
>> sorry kalau email ni merepek sangat :p
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin <
>> kernel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Biasalaa bro, atleast bro dah mintak maaf dan dh luahkan apa yg terbuku
>>> di hati.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>>>
 first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
 for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
 sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
 some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
 movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.

 Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
 portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
 said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
 hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
 stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)

 azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
 husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
 world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
 and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
 believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
 but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
 country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
 disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...

 red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
 that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
 being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
 reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
 personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
 hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
 these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
 here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
 making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
 your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
 have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
 your ass... hahahaha..

 all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
 see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
 believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
 as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
 nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
 a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
 same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
 loose...

 all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
 your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
 all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
 with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
 beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
 you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
 will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
 well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
 that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
 we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.

>

Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[saifuladli ismail]

mana ada merepek, at least we learn something from the argument.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I the youngest one in the community *I think* and I I do admire all
> of big guys in community.
>
> I learned from Red1 that "the information are free, and the people are
> not", has been driven my passion to contribute more to opensource project,
> although only just translation.
>
> I learned from Rafe that "passion is a must", and because of that I'm still
> in opensource business although it's hard to accept the reality of life.
>
> I learned from Haris that "always give back to the community", and that's
> why I'm really passionate to contribute in community project, although I
> don't have that skills, or money, or time.
>
> saya tak kisah kalau kita ni bertelagah pandangan ke, nak suarakan pendapat
> ke, but in the end we still eat and talk in same table like use to be.
> that's what I do really admire about you guys.
>
> to conclude, let's stay unite and make something big. I always think about
> that :)
>
> sorry kalau email ni merepek sangat :p
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin <
> kernel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Biasalaa bro, atleast bro dah mintak maaf dan dh luahkan apa yg terbuku di
>> hati.
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>>
>>> first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
>>> for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
>>> sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
>>> some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
>>> movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.
>>>
>>> Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
>>> portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
>>> said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
>>> hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
>>> stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)
>>>
>>> azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
>>> husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
>>> world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
>>> and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
>>> believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
>>> but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
>>> country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
>>> disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...
>>>
>>> red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
>>> that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
>>> being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
>>> reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
>>> personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
>>> hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
>>> these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
>>> here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
>>> making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
>>> your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
>>> have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
>>> your ass... hahahaha..
>>>
>>> all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
>>> see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
>>> believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
>>> as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
>>> nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
>>> a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
>>> same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
>>> loose...
>>>
>>> all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
>>> your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
>>> all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
>>> with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
>>> beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
>>> you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
>>> will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
>>> well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
>>> that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
>>> we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.
>>>
>>> //rafe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Aziz,
>>> >
>>> > remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
>>> > how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal te

Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

I think I the youngest one in the community *I think* and I I do admire all
of big guys in community.

I learned from Red1 that "the information are free, and the people are not",
has been driven my passion to contribute more to opensource project,
although only just translation.

I learned from Rafe that "passion is a must", and because of that I'm still
in opensource business although it's hard to accept the reality of life.

I learned from Haris that "always give back to the community", and that's
why I'm really passionate to contribute in community project, although I
don't have that skills, or money, or time.

saya tak kisah kalau kita ni bertelagah pandangan ke, nak suarakan pendapat
ke, but in the end we still eat and talk in same table like use to be.
that's what I do really admire about you guys.

to conclude, let's stay unite and make something big. I always think about
that :)

sorry kalau email ni merepek sangat :p

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin <
kernel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Biasalaa bro, atleast bro dah mintak maaf dan dh luahkan apa yg terbuku di
> hati.
>
> :)
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>
>> first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
>> for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
>> sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
>> some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
>> movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.
>>
>> Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
>> portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
>> said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
>> hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
>> stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)
>>
>> azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
>> husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
>> world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
>> and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
>> believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
>> but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
>> country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
>> disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...
>>
>> red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
>> that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
>> being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
>> reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
>> personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
>> hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
>> these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
>> here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
>> making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
>> your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
>> have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
>> your ass... hahahaha..
>>
>> all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
>> see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
>> believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
>> as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
>> nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
>> a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
>> same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
>> loose...
>>
>> all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
>> your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
>> all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
>> with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
>> beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
>> you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
>> will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
>> well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
>> that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
>> we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.
>>
>> //rafe
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>  wrote:
>> > Aziz,
>> >
>> > remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
>> > how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal terbang, tidur
>> > hotel budget dengan pijat. Untuk cari makan and OSS.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin
>> >  wrote:
>> >> :)
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> >
>> > --
>> > To unsubscribe from and detai

Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 

> Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :)
>
> aku memang kena stanby, sebab sudah mula kerja masa tarikh tu..orang lain
aku tatau :)


> Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>
>> Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..
>>
>> p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...
>>
>> Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise menulis:
>>
>> Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> bro
>>>
>>> Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>>  menulis:
>>> > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
>>> >
>>> > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
>>> >>
>>> >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
>>> >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
>>> >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>>> >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
>>> >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas
>>> daripada
>>> >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
>>> >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 1) Booth?
>>> >> > 2) Ceramah?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sekian, terima kasih.
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

I have alot open project video downloaded..include the big bug bunny and so
on..
all of the video are downloaded from their website.

hope this will help :)

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> Trailer
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP3zvc2dG5Y
>
> Website
>
> http://www.revolution-os.com/index.html
>
>
> REVOLUTION OS tells the inside story of the hackers who rebelled
> against the proprietary software model and Microsoft to create
> GNU/Linux and the Open Source movement.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:11 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> > So probably not revolution OS, i always thought it is donated, hmmm
> > but the rest of the 2 is 1) public domain or 2) under creative commons
> >
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[osdcmy] Looking for Web Application Developer

[limcheekin]

Hi there,

I am looking for Web Application Developer experienced in JQuery
(http://jquery.com/), Subversion (SVN) and optionally server-side
technology such as Grails (http://www.grails.org/), PHP, ASP or etc.
to work on an open source project.

Please post your reply here if you are interested.

Otherwise, If you know anyone who have the development skills
mentioned above included students, junior developers, experience
developers or whoever involved in web development or working in IT
industry, kindly help me forward this message to them (Please let's me
know if you need my contact information such as e-mail and mobile).

Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Chee Kin

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[osdcmy] Invitation from HSKL to use the space

[Meling Mudin]

Hi all,

First of all, an introduction. 

HackerspaceKL is a community-oriented hackerspace where people make creative 
things with technology. It will be a place for hackers, coders, geeks, 
makers, nerds, artists, students, and everyone from all walks of life 
to hang out and meet each other, work on projects and meet people with 
similar interest, conduct lectures, workshops, and tutorials, and share 
knowledge and resources such as electronic equipments, computer devices, and 
other gadgets. We are similar to other hackerspaces such as 
Metalab (Vienna, 
Austria), /tmp/lab  (Paris, France), 
HacDC(Washington 
DC, USA), Randomdata (Utrecth, The Netherlands), 
Pumping 
Station: One  (Chicago, IL, USA), and 
Tog (Dublin, 
Ireland). Regionally, we are dissimilar to 
HackerspaceSG (Singapore) 
due to our orientation towards DIY culture and tinkering, while theirs is 
more towards social gatherings and co-working. We also fullfil our social 
and community role by conducting workshops, trainings and classes on 
electronics, Open Source, computer security, and any other subject.

We have been around for exactly 1 year and 2 months, and our small little 
community is actively growing.

On behalf of HSKL, I would like to invite the leaders of the Open Source 
community to utilize the space for meetups, workshops, and events. There are 
no requirements to host events by non-members at our space - you just need 
to observe our house rules (http://wiki.hackerspace.my/wiki/HouseRules), 
 get one of our members to help out in organizing your event 
(http://wiki.hackerspace.my/wiki/EventHowTo), and provide donations for the 
upkeep of the space. And of course, anyone is welcome to be a member as 
well.

For a typical workshop-style events, we have tables, chairs, projector and 
whiteboard. Our room (the only one with airconditioning) can accomodate at 
most 30 people for a presentation-only event. For workshops, we can 
accommodate at most 20-25 people. 

As a suggestion, I would like the open source community to start running a 
monthly event similar to our Security Meetup (which happens every first 
Tuesday of the month). The format is simple: one presenter to talk on topic 
of interest, followed by discussion. Topics can be anything related to Open 
Source (in a similar vein, for Security Meetup, the topics are anything 
related to security - Kakeman talked about physical security/alarm systems 
at the last meetup).

If you are interested, please do not hesitate to contact me, the committee 
(commit...@hackerspace.my) or m...@hackerspace.my.

Cheers,

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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin]

Biasalaa bro, atleast bro dah mintak maaf dan dh luahkan apa yg terbuku di
hati.

:)

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
> for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
> sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
> some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
> movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.
>
> Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
> portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
> said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
> hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
> stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)
>
> azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
> husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
> world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
> and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
> believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
> but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
> country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
> disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...
>
> red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
> that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
> being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
> reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
> personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
> hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
> these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
> here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
> making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
> your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
> have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
> your ass... hahahaha..
>
> all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
> see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
> believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
> as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
> nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
> a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
> same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
> loose...
>
> all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
> your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
> all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
> with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
> beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
> you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
> will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
> well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
> that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
> we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.
>
> //rafe
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
> > Aziz,
> >
> > remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
> > how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal terbang, tidur
> > hotel budget dengan pijat. Untuk cari makan and OSS.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin
> >  wrote:
> >> :)
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

+1

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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[rafe azsnal]

first and foremost i would like to take this opportunity to apologize
for the blunt and improper words that i use in my context. truly and
sincerely i do apologize but it still doesn't change the fact that is
some individual pursuing their own agenda rather than the whole
movement. a personal vendetta will only bring more damage that good.

Haris, we have been working together since day 1 i receive the
portfolio of OSS and we have done great thing despite what others has
said. and honestly i am proud of what that has become of OSDC.MY i do
hope that it will blooms beautifully in time... but you need to be
stronger and have bigger balls to roll with.. :)

azrul, i have the utmost respect for u, being a man that you are, a
husband to a wife that love you, a father to child that meant the
world to them, a strong supporter to the course that you believed in,
and as an individual who cares about your countrymen. who doesn't
believed that wealth and knowledge is only for a certain individual
but to everybody. i believed you will be an important asset to the
country when the time comes. InsyaAllah all your sorrow and
disappointment will be the courage that others will fight upon...

red1, i can't stop you from being ass that you are :-) . a brave man
that you are who stand tall among the rest... being a world leader and
being a fighter who know no defeat with an army goat in your neighbor
reban. i have learn a lot from like you which some of you bad
personalities has been adapted by me to used it against you.. :)
hahahaha.. i do hope you don't keep it in your heart where all of
these is a training ground for our younger generation to be. we're not
here forever the younger generation should take the lead by now and
making you proud already red1. i do hope one day you would materialize
your dream in bringing back what you love most to the country that
have love you the less. :) dont worried as long as im here i will kick
your ass... hahahaha..

all of you are my friend, i have come to know you and respect you and
see what you have been fighting for all these while and come to
believe what you believed in... but my hand is not always free to help
as there are time where both of my hand and leg is being tight and
nailed down due to the policies and structure. i didn't mean to create
a differences between you between friends all of you are fighting the
same battle and war that yet to be determine whether have you won or
loose...

all am asking don't make us as target you don't want to make us as
your enemies and not to be proud we do have the advantages of pressing
all of these down. i would rather be a friend and have a teh tarik
with all of you rather than fighting you... unless you can proof
beyond doubt the  im willing to you to the extra miles to stand beside
you and try to make thing right. but an individual or silos agenda
will only ruins what you have build so far. run this community as a
well as an organization and insyaAllah you will gain the recognition
that you longing for unless somehow someway thing work for the better
we need to work together to archive that one single common objective.

//rafe


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
> Aziz,
>
> remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
> how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal terbang, tidur
> hotel budget dengan pijat. Untuk cari makan and OSS.
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin
>  wrote:
>> :)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP3zvc2dG5Y

Website

http://www.revolution-os.com/index.html


REVOLUTION OS tells the inside story of the hackers who rebelled
against the proprietary software model and Microsoft to create
GNU/Linux and the Open Source movement.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:11 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> So probably not revolution OS, i always thought it is donated, hmmm
> but the rest of the 2 is 1) public domain or 2) under creative commons
>

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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[sweemeng ng]

So probably not revolution OS, i always thought it is donated, hmmm

but the rest of the 2 is 1) public domain or 2) under creative commons

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan <
sharuzza...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please make sure that the video that we are going to show is a legitimate
> copy.
>
> I know Revolution OS is copyrighted, and if you download it from Internet,
> you are actually infringing the copyright.
>
> See
> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/04/revolution-os-award-winning-documentary.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
>
>> If you need video to show, i have a few, though I'm not sure whether they
>> get the meaning of it.
>>
>> I have
>> code rush(a story of netscape and show the time they release mozilla)
>> revolution OS, on open source, though low resolution though
>> and patent absudity.
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>>
>> Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :)
>>>
>>> Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>>>
 Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..

 p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...

 Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise 
 menulis:

 Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks
>
>
> bro
>
> Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  menulis:
> > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
> >
> > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
> >>
> >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
> >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
> >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
> >>
> >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
> >> >
> >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
> >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
> >> >
> >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas
> daripada
> >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
> >> >
> >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
> >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1) Booth?
> >> > 2) Ceramah?
> >> >
> >> > Sekian, terima kasih.
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Aziz,

remember the old days that we went into pendalaman teaching teachers
how to use Linux. Turun kapal terbang dan naik kapal terbang, tidur
hotel budget dengan pijat. Untuk cari makan and OSS.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin
 wrote:
> :)
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel

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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin]

:)

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry all,
>
> Sorry for not holding to my sabar. Tapi duduk dalam kasut saya. Since
> 1999 saya dan rakan-rakan yang lain telah gunakan OSS dan promote OSS.
> Macam mana pengalaman kami dalam bank trying untuk yakinkan pengurusan
> bank gunakan Linux untuk bank end server (DNS and file sharing) since
> 1999 and later http web server.
>
> We always prove our point by making its happen and show the fact by
> doing it. Not just talking about it.
>
> During OSCC MAMPU teach me to respect what the pegawai-pegawai have
> done to make the OSS policy in government. Its a lot. Sampai kami yang
> kami daripada swasta ini tak terlawan.
>
> Mula saya anggap ia birokrasi tapi its the way check and balance work
> between agencies. You need to be in their then we can understand.
>
> Im tired of flame war or blaming any parties for our failure. dan
> sebenar its not a failure. Its the nature of OSS community itself. Its
> will take time to growth and must be nature properly.
>
> Its take more than 10 years for community like Linux kernel and Apache
> web server to mature. Even Ubuntu community the founder and funder is
> burning money to do it. But we are not at that pleasure of doing it so
> like I wrote before this.
>
> Semua adalah kepada kita. Kita yang menentukan jalan kita. Kita
> sebagai komuniti perlu usaha sendiri dan lakukan.
>
> Siapa lagi?
>
> Sekian, terima kasih.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:06 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> > While nobody knows who are you really on the internet, but the internet
> > remembers what you say.
> > and please we have too much flamewar already
> > 2011/3/2 Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin 
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan]

Please make sure that the video that we are going to show is a legitimate
copy.

I know Revolution OS is copyrighted, and if you download it from Internet,
you are actually infringing the copyright.

See
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/04/revolution-os-award-winning-documentary.html



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:21 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:

> If you need video to show, i have a few, though I'm not sure whether they
> get the meaning of it.
>
> I have
> code rush(a story of netscape and show the time they release mozilla)
> revolution OS, on open source, though low resolution though
> and patent absudity.
>
>
> 2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 
>
> Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :)
>>
>> Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>>
>>> Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..
>>>
>>> p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...
>>>
>>> Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise 
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>> Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks


 bro

 Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
  menulis:
 > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
 >
 > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
 >>
 >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
 >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
 >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
 >>
 >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
 >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
 >> >
 >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
 >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
 >> >
 >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas
 daripada
 >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
 >> >
 >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
 >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
 >> >
 >> >
 >> > 1) Booth?
 >> > 2) Ceramah?
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

I need a person to lead. Can you? alang-alang balik kampung... :)

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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Sorry all,

Sorry for not holding to my sabar. Tapi duduk dalam kasut saya. Since
1999 saya dan rakan-rakan yang lain telah gunakan OSS dan promote OSS.
Macam mana pengalaman kami dalam bank trying untuk yakinkan pengurusan
bank gunakan Linux untuk bank end server (DNS and file sharing) since
1999 and later http web server.

We always prove our point by making its happen and show the fact by
doing it. Not just talking about it.

During OSCC MAMPU teach me to respect what the pegawai-pegawai have
done to make the OSS policy in government. Its a lot. Sampai kami yang
kami daripada swasta ini tak terlawan.

Mula saya anggap ia birokrasi tapi its the way check and balance work
between agencies. You need to be in their then we can understand.

Im tired of flame war or blaming any parties for our failure. dan
sebenar its not a failure. Its the nature of OSS community itself. Its
will take time to growth and must be nature properly.

Its take more than 10 years for community like Linux kernel and Apache
web server to mature. Even Ubuntu community the founder and funder is
burning money to do it. But we are not at that pleasure of doing it so
like I wrote before this.

Semua adalah kepada kita. Kita yang menentukan jalan kita. Kita
sebagai komuniti perlu usaha sendiri dan lakukan.

Siapa lagi?

Sekian, terima kasih.



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:06 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> While nobody knows who are you really on the internet, but the internet
> remembers what you say.
> and please we have too much flamewar already
> 2011/3/2 Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin 
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[sweemeng ng]

If you need video to show, i have a few, though I'm not sure whether they
get the meaning of it.

I have
code rush(a story of netscape and show the time they release mozilla)
revolution OS, on open source, though low resolution though
and patent absudity.


2011/3/2 Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari 

> Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :)
>
> Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>
>> Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..
>>
>> p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...
>>
>> Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise menulis:
>>
>> Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> bro
>>>
>>> Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>>  menulis:
>>> > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
>>> >
>>> > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
>>> >>
>>> >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
>>> >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
>>> >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>>> >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
>>> >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas
>>> daripada
>>> >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
>>> >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[sweemeng ng]

While nobody knows who are you really on the internet, but the internet
remembers what you say.

and please we have too much flamewar already

2011/3/2 Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin 

> Salam semua,
>
> Jgn ler gaduh2 aku rase better kite tgk diri sendiri dulu sebelum menunding
> jari ke org lain atau asyik
> carik salah org lain, h...and please lerr dont use the F word or
> insulting anyone...
> sori bro semua erk bukan nak ckp pandai tp peringatan utk diri sy sama...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2011/3/2 Harisfazillah Jamel 
>
> Yep. Im NOT pandai dalam hal-hal lobbying to government or mau kipas
>> saper2 or mahu kick the butt of any agencies.
>>
>> Konsep saya mudah. Jika tiada, biar tiada. Yang diberikan kita terima.
>>
>> You keep on making people in this list angry at you thats include me
>> now...
>>
>> and don't insult me about banking. I had work in the bank daripada
>> kerani sampai pegawai selama 13 tahun.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM, red1  wrote:
>> > Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa
>> numbers?
>> > Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
>> > Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
>> > hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia,
>> tetapi
>> > masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
>> >
>> > Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Abdul Aziz Mydin Salimuddin]

Salam semua,

Jgn ler gaduh2 aku rase better kite tgk diri sendiri dulu sebelum menunding
jari ke org lain atau asyik
carik salah org lain, h...and please lerr dont use the F word or
insulting anyone...
sori bro semua erk bukan nak ckp pandai tp peringatan utk diri sy sama...






2011/3/2 Harisfazillah Jamel 

> Yep. Im NOT pandai dalam hal-hal lobbying to government or mau kipas
> saper2 or mahu kick the butt of any agencies.
>
> Konsep saya mudah. Jika tiada, biar tiada. Yang diberikan kita terima.
>
> You keep on making people in this list angry at you thats include me now...
>
> and don't insult me about banking. I had work in the bank daripada
> kerani sampai pegawai selama 13 tahun.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM, red1  wrote:
> > Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa
> numbers?
> > Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
> > Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
> > hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia,
> tetapi
> > masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
> >
> > Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Yep. Im NOT pandai dalam hal-hal lobbying to government or mau kipas
saper2 or mahu kick the butt of any agencies.

Konsep saya mudah. Jika tiada, biar tiada. Yang diberikan kita terima.

You keep on making people in this list angry at you thats include me now...

and don't insult me about banking. I had work in the bank daripada
kerani sampai pegawai selama 13 tahun.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 7:43 PM, red1  wrote:
> Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers?
> Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
> Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
> hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi
> masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
>
> Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.

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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari]

Aik lepas kena tibai tu hari... main teknik stanby lak... :)

Soire, awak tu orang Jerantuit ke?



On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Soire Meira  wrote:

> Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..
>
> p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...
>
> Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise menulis:
>
> Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks
>>
>>
>> bro
>>
>> Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>  menulis:
>> > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
>> >
>> > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
>> >>
>> >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
>> >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
>> >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
>> >>
>> >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>> >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
>> >> >
>> >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
>> >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
>> >> >
>> >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas
>> daripada
>> >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
>> >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) Booth?
>> >> > 2) Ceramah?
>> >> >
>> >> > Sekian, terima kasih.
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: birgHPC: Instant Computing Cluster for Bioinformatics

[Mohd Rizal Mohd Shahari]

Sangat bagus mereka menggunakan Open Source Tool dalam research mereka... :)
Nampak macam dah customize... Harap mereka ada submit CFP untuk tahun ini...



On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:42 AM, THChew  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> birgHPC is also hosted on Sourceforge. Please visit
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/birghpc/ for details.
>
> On Feb 28, 2:43 pm, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
> >
> > linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > forwarded to OSDC.my list.
> >
> > boss, rasenye saya dah forward hari tu :p
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: THChew 
> > > Date: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM
> > > Subject: [utm-oss] birgHPC: Instant Computing Cluster for
> Bioinformatics
> > > To: UTM Open Source Software Group 
> >
> > > birgHPC (Bioinformatic Research Group High Performance Computing) is a
> > > free Linux Live CD distribution based on PelicanHPC and Debian Live.
> > > It is developed by the Bioinformatics Research Group (BIRG), Faculty
> > > of Biosciences and Bioengineering, Universiti Teknologi Malaysia.
> >
> > > The idea of creating birgHPC comes from the fact that most PCs in the
> > > computer laboratories are under utilised. The students, for example,
> > > only use the computer laboratories during the day but after office
> > > hours and especially during holidays, these PCs are idle. These PCs
> > > can provide valuable computing resources to researchers by simply
> > > converting them into a high performance computing cluster.
> > > Conventional cluster setup, however, is troublesome and lengthy,
> > > involving manual software configurations and installations and not to
> > > mention extra budget. birgHPC aims to simplify these by using Linux
> > > Live CD technology, combining with automated configurations and built-
> > > in software. The main feature of birgHPC is the ability to convert PCs
> > > interconnected within the same private local area network (LAN) to a
> > > high performance computing cluster, specifically for molecular
> > > dynamics studies, using just one CD. Other features included in
> > > birgHPC are the Ganglia cluster monitoring, the auto slots detection,
> > > both OpenMPI and MPICH2 capabilities as well as tools for molecular
> > > dynamics (GROMACS, Grace, DSSP, VMD and PyMol) and bioinformatics
> > > (mpiBLAST and ClustalW-MPI).
> >
> > > Visithttp://birg1.fbb.utm.my/birghpc(or
> > >http://www.birg1.bioscience.utm.my/birghpc
> > > if you are inside UTM) for more information and downloads.
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Soire Meira]

Sy pun standaby masuk dlm list..

p/s: yahoo.. blh blk kmpg skali daa...

Pada 2 Mac 2011 1:02 AM, riZer Enterprise menulis:

> Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks
>
>
> bro
>
> Pada 1 Mac 2011 7:58 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  menulis:
> > nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)
> >
> > 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
> >>
> >> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
> >> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
> >> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
> >>
> >> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> >> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
> >> >
> >> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
> >> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
> >> >
> >> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada
> >> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
> >> >
> >> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
> >> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Soire Meira]

Stuju sgt dgn pendapat red1... smpai bila nk mcmni.. agung2kn org luar..
bak kata pepatah low class ini " Hujan Emas dinegeri org, hujan batu
dinegeri sendiri"
dr zaman hitam putih lg kita dh ditanam dgn sifat low class pada produk
tempatan.. sedangkn org luar bangga dpt memiliki produk2 kita.. bla.. bla
bla.. ni lg bnyk ngarut ni kang.. ha3..

2011/3/2 rafe azsnal 

> Till that day happened red1 I wish you all the best and success.
>
> Just want to clear what you wrote here
> "gov agencies don't play any roles in development of d industry but
> investors do" correct? If you can understand as much as that why can't you
> understand the way we work? We are not investors MDeC is not an investors. I
> hope you understand what you yourself wrote here don't want to be the guy
> who point it out again.
>
> rafe
>
> On Mar 2, 2011 6:35 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>
>  There are enough geniuses in Malaysia. I travelled all over the world i
> find their geniuses and ours are more or less the same. The difference is
> that they were looked at as and respected as unique and self-starters. There
> if you failed once, they ask you to fail more than 5 times, the average
> before one becomes successful. Here if you fail, you have to leave or bluff
> in your borang to say 'tak pernah gagal', 'tak pernah hutang bank', ...
>
> I met some of you and i say if you are in Paris or California you could be
> the next Hotmail or Facebook. When they started they had the same passion,
> not 'cari makan' but 'cari perasaan dorongan'. Their govts get out of the
> way. Their investors take great risks because they believe in the risks.
>
> How many nobel prize we have? Zero. How many dotcom success? Zero. Why?
> Senang jawapannya. Takut gagal. Kiasu. Takut dikritik. Asyik bodek. Asyik
> Pau orang merata. No wonder the Pau Lady stands ironically the symbol of our
> culture.
>
> I dont have to insult you further with stories how Yahoo! or Google really
> started. Go google for it. You will find they dont care about the numbers
> cos they started with no numbers. Just passion. Just wana do it. Get it? No!
> You dont get it. You ada masalah sikap. Tak percaya orang sendiri. Percaya
> orang Jerman lebih. Bila saya bawa pengikut Jerman saya mari, baru nak
> iktiraf memang orang Malaysia boleh pimpin sebuah projek dotcom peringkat
> world class. Sampai bila sikap sedemikian?
>
> When i get the numbers one day, i may be like Facebook. Would i care about
> asking you for grants? No! I will buy out the whole property in CyberJaya
> and put up signposts "MDec is a disgust".
>
>
>
> On 3/1/11 9:15 PM, saifuladli ismail wrote:
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> > number nie nak tujukkan apa? statistik? tujuan nya...
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[rafe azsnal]

Till that day happened red1 I wish you all the best and success.

Just want to clear what you wrote here
"gov agencies don't play any roles in development of d industry but
investors do" correct? If you can understand as much as that why can't you
understand the way we work? We are not investors MDeC is not an investors. I
hope you understand what you yourself wrote here don't want to be the guy
who point it out again.

rafe

On Mar 2, 2011 6:35 AM, "red1"  wrote:

 There are enough geniuses in Malaysia. I travelled all over the world i
find their geniuses and ours are more or less the same. The difference is
that they were looked at as and respected as unique and self-starters. There
if you failed once, they ask you to fail more than 5 times, the average
before one becomes successful. Here if you fail, you have to leave or bluff
in your borang to say 'tak pernah gagal', 'tak pernah hutang bank', ...

I met some of you and i say if you are in Paris or California you could be
the next Hotmail or Facebook. When they started they had the same passion,
not 'cari makan' but 'cari perasaan dorongan'. Their govts get out of the
way. Their investors take great risks because they believe in the risks.

How many nobel prize we have? Zero. How many dotcom success? Zero. Why?
Senang jawapannya. Takut gagal. Kiasu. Takut dikritik. Asyik bodek. Asyik
Pau orang merata. No wonder the Pau Lady stands ironically the symbol of our
culture.

I dont have to insult you further with stories how Yahoo! or Google really
started. Go google for it. You will find they dont care about the numbers
cos they started with no numbers. Just passion. Just wana do it. Get it? No!
You dont get it. You ada masalah sikap. Tak percaya orang sendiri. Percaya
orang Jerman lebih. Bila saya bawa pengikut Jerman saya mari, baru nak
iktiraf memang orang Malaysia boleh pimpin sebuah projek dotcom peringkat
world class. Sampai bila sikap sedemikian?

When i get the numbers one day, i may be like Facebook. Would i care about
asking you for grants? No! I will buy out the whole property in CyberJaya
and put up signposts "MDec is a disgust".



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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[red1]

There are enough geniuses in Malaysia. I travelled all over the world i
find their geniuses and ours are more or less the same. The difference
is that they were looked at as and respected as unique and
self-starters. There if you failed once, they ask you to fail more than
5 times, the average before one becomes successful. Here if you fail,
you have to leave or bluff in your borang to say 'tak pernah gagal',
'tak pernah hutang bank', ...

I met some of you and i say if you are in Paris or California you could
be the next Hotmail or Facebook. When they started they had the same
passion, not 'cari makan' but 'cari perasaan dorongan'. Their govts get
out of the way. Their investors take great risks because they believe
in the risks.

How many nobel prize we have? Zero. How many dotcom success? Zero. Why?
Senang jawapannya. Takut gagal. Kiasu. Takut dikritik. Asyik bodek.
Asyik Pau orang merata. No wonder the Pau Lady stands ironically the
symbol of our culture.

I dont have to insult you further with stories how Yahoo! or Google
really started. Go google for it. You will find they dont care about
the numbers cos they started with no numbers. Just passion. Just wana
do it. Get it? No! You dont get it. You ada masalah sikap. Tak percaya
orang sendiri. Percaya orang Jerman lebih. Bila saya bawa pengikut
Jerman saya mari, baru nak iktiraf memang orang Malaysia boleh pimpin
sebuah projek dotcom peringkat world class. Sampai bila sikap
sedemikian?

When i get the numbers one day, i may be like Facebook. Would i care
about asking you for grants? No! I will buy out the whole property in
CyberJaya and put up signposts "MDec is a disgust".

On 3/1/11 9:15 PM, saifuladli ismail wrote:
number nie nak tujukkan apa? statistik? tujuan nya apa?
  
  On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, rafe azsnal 
wrote:
  
Maybe you have none 
rafe 

  On Mar 1, 2011 7:43 PM, "red1" 
wrote:
  
Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa
numbers? Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank
selalunya hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan
rahsia, tetapi masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
  
Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.
  
  
  
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Re: [osdcmy] Re: My1OS sapu duit gomen

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No intention of linking the words "making love" to you sweemeng...kekeke

Eric

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:22 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> Make Love NOT Distro Wars
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Muhammad Syafiq 
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh tidak! We just love FOSS thing, share and fight is not ur rulez!
>> Teehee
>> Peace and Harmony!
>> محمد شافق بن مذلي
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>> http://syafiq.me
>> 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58
>> 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

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Nama saya pun stand-by masuk dalam list ... thanks


bro

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>
> 2011/3/1 darXness darXness 
>>
>> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
>> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
>> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
>>
>> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
>> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
>> >
>> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
>> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
>> >
>> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada
>> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
>> >
>> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
>> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
>> >
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[saifuladli ismail]

number nie nak tujukkan apa? statistik? tujuan nya apa?

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> Maybe you have none
>
> rafe
>
> On Mar 1, 2011 7:43 PM, "red1"  wrote:
>
> Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers?
> Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
> Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
> hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi
> masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.
>
> Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.
>
>
>
> On 3/1/11 6:15 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
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> > Damp 
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[rafe azsnal]

Maybe you have none

rafe

On Mar 1, 2011 7:43 PM, "red1"  wrote:

Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers?
Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya
hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi
masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.

Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.



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> Damp 
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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini]

nama saya stanby masuk dalam list boleh? timakaseh :)

2011/3/1 darXness darXness 

> argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
> kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
> tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)
>
> 2011/3/1 Harisfazillah Jamel :
> > Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang
> >
> > Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
> > Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
> >
> > Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada
> > rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
> >
> > Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
> > memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[red1]

Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa 
numbers? Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank???
Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya 
hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, 
tetapi masih rahsia bagi mereka yang masih naif dan innosen.


Please la Haris, give something thats worth my intelligence.

On 3/1/11 6:15 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:

Damp 

I don't read email for 24 hours this things will happen.

We should already know, MDeC could not or will nor focus on OSS only.
Even with MAMPU or any Agency, this will not happen, MDeC or any
agencies can do things that can spark or make public aware about OSS.
BUT all must depend on us as community 

OSS is all about community, and for that we are the one that need to
do all the things. We need to lobby or we need to keep on doing the
promotion and OSS day or any others activities.

Its like chicken and egg. We approach government but they needs
numbers. Dont talk aje please. We the one need to produce the numbers.

How many OSS days that we have done?
How many people know and support OSS?
How many companies that really into OSS?
What the economy impact to public?

The numbers and figure that MDeC produce should be use by us for
lobbying. Kita ni dah back stab them by asking and questioning where
the figure come from, sedangkan kita boleh ambil kesempatan untuk
lobbying policy maker not MDeC 

MDeC only do what they are instruct to do. KPI KRA dan organisation
goals. They have a lot of things. Not only OSS.

We are the one should panjat tangga go to Bangunan Perdana Putra and
lobbying for our needs. But we will be ask back? what figure to be
used?

I believe we will refer back to MDeC figure and used it. .

My two cents and I need to log off again  More things need to be
plan for the coming MOSC2011.


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM, azs...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

Wondering why people think that am attacking azrul or java? Weird... I
don't.

is just that I see every blame was directed to MDeC... alright lah blame the
organization I eagerly want to see what would the after effect be. See if
they actually care..

All the people have fun..

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Re: [osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[darXness darXness]

argh!!!baru plan nak g...skali kat jerantut.jauh lak dari
kuantan...huhuhu.maybe just inform MDeC kot.just to notify them n
tnjkkn kite still ade xtvt.:)

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>
> Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
> Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang
>
> Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada
> rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.
>
> Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
> memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.
>
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Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Damp 

I don't read email for 24 hours this things will happen.

We should already know, MDeC could not or will nor focus on OSS only.
Even with MAMPU or any Agency, this will not happen, MDeC or any
agencies can do things that can spark or make public aware about OSS.
BUT all must depend on us as community 

OSS is all about community, and for that we are the one that need to
do all the things. We need to lobby or we need to keep on doing the
promotion and OSS day or any others activities.

Its like chicken and egg. We approach government but they needs
numbers. Dont talk aje please. We the one need to produce the numbers.

How many OSS days that we have done?
How many people know and support OSS?
How many companies that really into OSS?
What the economy impact to public?

The numbers and figure that MDeC produce should be use by us for
lobbying. Kita ni dah back stab them by asking and questioning where
the figure come from, sedangkan kita boleh ambil kesempatan untuk
lobbying policy maker not MDeC 

MDeC only do what they are instruct to do. KPI KRA dan organisation
goals. They have a lot of things. Not only OSS.

We are the one should panjat tangga go to Bangunan Perdana Putra and
lobbying for our needs. But we will be ask back? what figure to be
used?

I believe we will refer back to MDeC figure and used it. .

My two cents and I need to log off again  More things need to be
plan for the coming MOSC2011.


On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:10 AM, azs...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Wondering why people think that am attacking azrul or java? Weird... I
> don't.
>
> is just that I see every blame was directed to MDeC... alright lah blame the
> organization I eagerly want to see what would the after effect be. See if
> they actually care..
>
> All the people have fun..
>
> Sent from my HTC

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[osdcmy] Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Program Karnival ICT Peringkat Negeri Pahang

Tarikh : 9 Hingga 10 April 2011 (Sabtu Ahad)
Tempat : Dataran Kuala Tembeling, Jerantut, Pahang

Jemputan MDeC kepada komuniti OSS, saya perlukan maklum balas daripada
rakan-rakan OSS Pahang dan yang terdekat.

Jika berminat saya akan maklumkan kepada rakan di MDeC, untuk
memberikan ruang kepada kita. Sila cadangkan aktiviti.


1) Booth?
2) Ceramah?

Sekian, terima kasih.

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