Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[sweemeng ng]

On the other hand, there is already effort to bypass all
censorship/blocking/bureaucracy. Decentralized social network(work on
going). Freedom Box. Name coin, i.e .bit TLD i.e Decentralized dns. Payment
via bitcoin etc.

There is this little problem, it is all still work in progress,

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM, red1  wrote:

> I wanted to rant some more, but i better do it elsewhere >
> http://red1empire.blogspot.**com/2012/01/approve-sopa-pipa-**
> and-see-real-anarhcy.html
>
>
> On 1/19/12 7:53 PM, red1 wrote:
>
>> On 1/19/12 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote:
>>
>>> What's in it for Malaysians?
>>>
>> Frankly i don't give a sh** for the highly patented, lobby-backed
>> corporate US Senate for doing this. It will really create more anarchy
>> which what the Web is really about. From anarchy is your individual
>> freedom. Malaysians included. (Only those who still believe in freedom).
>>
>> Greetings from CHE Guevara homeland.
>> red1
>>
>>
>> .
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[red1]

I wanted to rant some more, but i better do it elsewhere > 
http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2012/01/approve-sopa-pipa-and-see-real-anarhcy.html


On 1/19/12 7:53 PM, red1 wrote:

On 1/19/12 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote:

What's in it for Malaysians?
Frankly i don't give a sh** for the highly patented, lobby-backed 
corporate US Senate for doing this. It will really create more anarchy 
which what the Web is really about. From anarchy is your individual 
freedom. Malaysians included. (Only those who still believe in freedom).


Greetings from CHE Guevara homeland.
red1


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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[red1]

On 1/19/12 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote:

What's in it for Malaysians?
Frankly i don't give a sh** for the highly patented, lobby-backed 
corporate US Senate for doing this. It will really create more anarchy 
which what the Web is really about. From anarchy is your individual 
freedom. Malaysians included. (Only those who still believe in freedom).


Greetings from CHE Guevara homeland.
red1


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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:45 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> It is a big deal if you rely on US based payment provider, which include
> paypal, visa/mastercard for payment for your site.
>

Yes, Malaysian still rely a lot on US

>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA  wrote:
>>
>> What's in it for Malaysians?
>>
I don't believe you did ask this. We are not "merdeka" yet, you knew
it. Do you think Malaysian can "live" without US? Local content for
Wikipedia for example? or a local Malaysian "wikipedia"?

>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > -- Forwarded message --
>>> > From: "Fight For The Future" 
>>> > Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
>>> > Subject: Unreal
>>> > To: 
>>> >
>>> > Today was nuts, right?
>>> >
>>> > Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.
>>> > Senators'
>>> > websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
>>> > them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
>>> >
>>> > You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.
>>> > Tech
>>> > companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
>>> > internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
>>> > network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is
>>> > clear:
>>> > from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
>>> >
>>> > The really crazy part?  We might even win.
>>> >
>>> > Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators
>>> > publicly
>>> > opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41
>>> > solid
>>> > "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What
>>> > seemed
>>> > like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
>>> >
>>> > But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly
>>> > movie
>>> > companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they
>>> > have
>>> > the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular,
>>> > but
>>> > they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial
>>> > changes.
>>> > The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here
>>> > are
>>> > two things to think about:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone
>>> > each
>>> > morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on
>>> > cloture.
>>> > If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the Senate"
>>> > link
>>> > all next week.
>>> >
>>> > 2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have
>>> > a
>>> > cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too
>>> > exhausted!
>>> > any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the
>>> > phonebook
>>> > to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge
>>> > the
>>> > Senator to vote "no" on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our
>>> > spectacular
>>> > online protests more tangible and credible.
>>> >
>>> > That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
>>> >
>>> > --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
>>> >
>>> > ___
>>> >
>>> > P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship
>>> > Day
>>> > protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
>>> > others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community
>>> > and
>>> > the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
>>> > Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer
>>> > brought
>>> > them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D,
>>> > and
>>> > E Stark for bold action at critical times.
>>> >
>>> > P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you
>>> > can.
>>> > It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> >
>>> > This email was sent to:
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>>> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[sweemeng ng]

It is a big deal if you rely on US based payment provider, which include
paypal, visa/mastercard for payment for your site.

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Azrul MADISA  wrote:

> What's in it for Malaysians?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar  > wrote:
>
>> Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > -- Forwarded message --
>> > From: "Fight For The Future" 
>> > Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
>> > Subject: Unreal
>> > To: 
>> >
>> > Today was nuts, right?
>> >
>> > Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.
>> Senators'
>> > websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
>> > them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
>> >
>> > You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.
>> Tech
>> > companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
>> > internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
>> > network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is
>> clear:
>> > from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
>> >
>> > The really crazy part?  We might even win.
>> >
>> > Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators
>> publicly
>> > opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41
>> solid
>> > "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What
>> seemed
>> > like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
>> >
>> > But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly
>> movie
>> > companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they
>> have
>> > the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular,
>> but
>> > they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial
>> changes.
>> > The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here
>> are
>> > two things to think about:
>> >
>> > 1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone
>> each
>> > morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on
>> cloture.
>> > If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the Senate"
>> link
>> > all next week.
>> >
>> > 2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have
>> a
>> > cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too
>> exhausted!
>> > any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the
>> phonebook
>> > to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the
>> > Senator to vote "no" on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our
>> spectacular
>> > online protests more tangible and credible.
>> >
>> > That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
>> >
>> > --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
>> >
>> > ___
>> >
>> > P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship
>> Day
>> > protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
>> > others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community
>> and
>> > the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
>> > Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer
>> brought
>> > them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D,
>> and
>> > E Stark for bold action at critical times.
>> >
>> > P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you
>> can.
>> > It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> > This email was sent to:
>> > linuxmalay...@gmail.com
>> >
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>> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[Azrul MADISA]

What's in it for Malaysians?

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
wrote:

> Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: "Fight For The Future" 
> > Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
> > Subject: Unreal
> > To: 
> >
> > Today was nuts, right?
> >
> > Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.
> Senators'
> > websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
> > them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
> >
> > You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.  Tech
> > companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
> > internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
> > network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear:
> > from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
> >
> > The really crazy part?  We might even win.
> >
> > Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators
> publicly
> > opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41 solid
> > "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What
> seemed
> > like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
> >
> > But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly movie
> > companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they
> have
> > the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular,
> but
> > they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial
> changes.
> > The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here
> are
> > two things to think about:
> >
> > 1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone
> each
> > morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on cloture.
> > If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the Senate"
> link
> > all next week.
> >
> > 2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have a
> > cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted!
> > any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the
> phonebook
> > to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the
> > Senator to vote "no" on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our
> spectacular
> > online protests more tangible and credible.
> >
> > That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
> >
> > --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
> >
> > ___
> >
> > P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship
> Day
> > protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
> > others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community
> and
> > the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
> > Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer
> brought
> > them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D,
> and
> > E Stark for bold action at critical times.
> >
> > P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you
> can.
> > It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > This email was sent to:
> > linuxmalay...@gmail.com
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :)



On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Fight For The Future" 
> Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
> Subject: Unreal
> To: 
>
> Today was nuts, right?
>
> Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.  Senators'
> websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
> them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
>
> You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.  Tech
> companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
> internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
> network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear:
> from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
>
> The really crazy part?  We might even win.
>
> Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly
> opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41 solid
> "no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What seemed
> like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
>
> But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly movie
> companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they have
> the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular, but
> they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial changes.
> The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here are
> two things to think about:
>
> 1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone each
> morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on cloture.
> If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the Senate" link
> all next week.
>
> 2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have a
> cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted!
> any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the phonebook
> to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the
> Senator to vote "no" on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our spectacular
> online protests more tangible and credible.
>
> That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
>
> --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
>
> ___
>
> P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship Day
> protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
> others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community and
> the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
> Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer brought
> them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D, and
> E Stark for bold action at critical times.
>
> P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you can.
> It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
>
>
> 
>
> This email was sent to:
> linuxmalay...@gmail.com
>
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[osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

-- Forwarded message --
From: "Fight For The Future" 
Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
Subject: Unreal
To: 

Today was nuts, right?

Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.  Senators'
websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.

You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.  Tech
companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear:
from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.

The really crazy part?  We might even win.

Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators publicly
opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41 solid
"no" votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What seemed
like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.

But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA & PIPA (mostly movie
companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they have
the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA & PIPA are unpopular, but
they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial changes.
The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here are
two things to think about:

1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone
each morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote "no" on
cloture.  If your site participated today, consider running a "Call the
Senate" link all next week.

2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have a
cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted!
any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the phonebook
to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the
Senator to vote "no" on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our spectacular
online protests more tangible and credible.

That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!

--Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.

___

P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship Day
protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community and
the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer
brought them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K,
Cory D, and E Stark for bold action at critical times.

P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you
can. It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/




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