Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Unreal

2012-01-19 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
What's in it for Malaysians?

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
bizkut...@gmail.comwrote:

 Kita tak perlukan SOPA. Norman sorang pun dah cukup :)



 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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  From: Fight For The Future i...@fightforthefuture.org
  Date: 19 Jan 2012 14:36
  Subject: Unreal
  To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com
 
  Today was nuts, right?
 
  Google launched a petition.  Wikipedia voted to shut itself off.
 Senators'
  websites went down just from the sheer surge of voters trying to write
  them.   NYC and SF geeks had protests that packed city blocks.
 
  You made history today: nothing like this has ever happened before.  Tech
  companies and users teamed up.  Tens of millions of people who make the
  internet what it is joined together to defend their freedoms.  The free
  network defended itself.  Whatever you call it, the bottom line is clear:
  from today forward, it will be much harder to mess up the internet.
 
  The really crazy part?  We might even win.
 
  Approaching Monday's crucial Senate vote there are now 35 Senators
 publicly
  opposing PIPA.  Last week there were 5.   And it just takes just 41 solid
  no votes to permanently stall PIPA (and SOPA) in the Senate.  What
 seemed
  like miles away a few weeks ago is now within reach.
 
  But don't trust predictions.  The forces behind SOPA  PIPA (mostly movie
  companies) can make small changes to these bills until they know they
 have
  the votes to pass.  Members of Congress know SOPA  PIPA are unpopular,
 but
  they don't understand why--so they're easily duped by superficial
 changes.
  The Senate returns next week, and the next few days are critical.  Here
 are
  two things to think about:
 
  1. Plan on calling your Senator every day next week.  Pick up the phone
 each
  morning and call your Senators' offices, until they vote no on cloture.
  If your site participated today, consider running a Call the Senate
 link
  all next week.
 
  2. Tomorrow, drop in at your Senators' district offices.  We don't have a
  cool map widget to show you the offices nearest you (we're too exhausted!
  any takers?).  So do it the old fashioned way: use Google, or the
 phonebook
  to find the address, and just walk in, say you oppose PIPA, and urge the
  Senator to vote no on cloture.  These drop-in visits make our
 spectacular
  online protests more tangible and credible.
 
  That's it for now. Be proud and stay on it!
 
  --Holmes, Tiffiniy, and the whole Fight for the Future team.
 
  ___
 
  P.S. Huge credit goes to participants in the 11/16 American Censorship
 Day
  protest: Mozilla, 4chan, BoingBoing, Tumblr, TGWTG, and thousands of
  others.  That's what got this ball rolling!  Reddit, both the community
 and
  the team behind it, you're amazing.  And of course, thanks to the
  Wikimedians whose patient and inexorable pursuit of the right answer
 brought
  them to take world-changing action. Thanks to David S, David K, Cory D,
 and
  E Stark for bold action at critical times.
 
  P.P.S. If you haven't already, show this video to as many people as you
 can.
  It works! http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/
 
 
  
 
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Re: [osdcmy] MOSC2012 Call For Speakers Preparation Need Suggestion

2012-01-18 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
where is it going to be held this year?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Team,


 I need to prepare Call for Speakers. Can we discuss topics, speakers
 to invite and such.


 last conferences speakers :-


 MOSC2011 Speakers http://www.mosc.my/speakers


 MSC MOSC2010 http://conf.oss.my/speakers.html


 MSC OSCONF 2009
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Re: [osdcmy] Using UISpec4J To Test Java GUI Panels

2011-08-14 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Nice one!



On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:19 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Something to make Azrul drool, unless he beaten me to it which is always
 the case.

 http://red1empire.blogspot.**com/2011/08/uispec4j-with-**
 fitnesse-test-pos.htmlhttp://red1empire.blogspot.com/2011/08/uispec4j-with-fitnesse-test-pos.html

 Jouir de la liberté, profiter de la vie

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Re: [osdcmy] Calling Python i mean Mac guru

2011-05-10 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Or u can virtualize the whole thing

On May 9, 2011 4:49 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

On 5/9/11 9:27 PM, red1 wrote:

 This is probably up Boh's alley. I just upgraded my MacBook to 10...
solved it. some tools.jar difference handling that is solved by selecting
the right OS.. in my case just click on Mac (!).



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Re: [osdcmy] Malay Article on Grails Web Application using Netbeans on Ubuntu

2011-03-21 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Raja sudah demam Grails :)

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:

 wait for my next article ;-) - will be published over the weekend

 muahahaha... just like a sinetron ;D

 small teaser : by default it uses hsql, but you can connect to any other
 using jdbc. even to hadoop.



 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote:

 can it connect to sql database???


 2011/3/22 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com

 learning grails with netbeans is ok. there is code completion, so you can
 look up at functions / classes etc. it is learning by doing. it works for
 other languages as well : java / php / c++

 another part of the learning process which i am currently doing is
 actually compiling various articles about grails, trying it out, then
 describing about it in malay. sort of like a mental exercise by viewing it
 in a different language.

 next article will be about gorm - grails object relational mapping -
 administrating the database with no sql code !

 after that will be a series about grails and jquery.

 then will come back to access control.


 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow good.. can i learn NETBEANS here?

 2011/3/18 Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com

 OK, i have posted my 2nd malay article

 http://rajaiskandarshah.blogspot.com/2011/03/sambung-belajar-bina-aplikasi-grails.html

 Appreciate any feedback about pointing out the problems with
 understanding the instructions.

 This is a really noob article. I guess we can use dungu as the malay
 word to describe noob ? i have no knowledge whatsoever about java web 
 apps /
 groovy / grails - was just exploring with the tutorial and the netbeans 
 code
 completion. The Netbeans article for Grails did not work for me,
 experimented a bit until I got it to work.

 Any tips from the PTS people are also greatly appreciated.

 Hopefully from this we can come up with a few guidelines about
 submitting malay articles to the KOSTEM magazine.

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Re: [osdcmy] Do CS need maths

2011-03-13 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
My answer is simple:

If you want to do the same thing that every bloody one is doing then you do
not need math,

If you want to do something no one else has done before, then, hell yes you
need math

Azrul

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/

 based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. It depends
 on the goal, if aim for research YES, if for industry, maybe no

 what you guys think

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Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Wow! I'm going to champion proprietary software la from now on



On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

  http://www.opensource.org/node/535 -
 Malaysian Government has reached 97% OSS Adoption and saves
 http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2010/07/05/open-source-saves-malaysian-government-rm188-million
 RM188! Yep we got the numbers! Nape? Tak caya ke? Tak leh bawa bank kah?
 Kene tunjuk cash jugak ka? Nama je bank. Tolong orang kaya saja...

 sudahla... :)

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Re: [osdcmy] Java is big! What is MDeC doing about it?

2011-02-28 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Red1,

If you're interested, there's a bunch of stuff here
http://job-search.jobstreet.com.my/malaysia/job-opening.php?key=experianlocation=specialization=position=ss=1by=searchsrc=11.
Send me your resume again. I'll talk to my software director directly this
time around

Azrul

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

  What i learnt Swee Meng, is that govt has to get out our way, so that we
 can thrive. The problem is that whenever we want to do some shouting or
 kicking ass, they join from the other opposing side, with tons of borangs
 and dasar to actually complicate matters. This is not my theory. It is many
 socio-economists theories. Including our own Salleh Majid once wrote about
 it in Utusan Melayu and have to cross blast with Pemuda Umno with 'F' words
 in front of me.

 You can see it happens here. Everytime we try to organise oursleves the
 politikus wana hijack. It is time we reveal our strength and not even
 consider MDec's existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give u a free
 lunch anyway unless you got collateral like any housing loan. C'mon, be
 sober about this. No one except Karma is gonna help u.

 Heh Azrul, can i send my resume again to Experian? This time dont put bakul
 sampah yah? I now quite a master at some cool QA stuff as well as subject
 matter. Google my name to believe :)


 On 2/28/11 8:08 PM, sweemeng ng wrote:

 What I learn, sometime a community need to be more independent. While help
 of organization like mdec may not be a bad thing. Being independent means
 the community can do things the way they want. Though it help to have big
 guns will make thing easier, but great things happens when people each
 contribute it's own way. from user join in meetup and share to company
 hosting meetup

  p.s I sound optimistic

 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi guys,

  If you have seen The Star today, Java developers are actually getting a
 'durian runtuh' and yet, what did MDeC do to encourage people to go into
 Java? Read my rant here [
 http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-is-still-big.html]

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Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I have no pb (JB or Penang) as long as speakers are provided with proper
transport and accomodations

Azrul

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, lutfi raffi lutfira...@gmail.com wrote:

 + JB


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't where it would be. But then a road trip would definitely more fun
 than KL


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte 
 msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah well, out of KL will be good.

 JB is only better because of the proximity to SG and the potential
 crowd it may bring.

 Penang...pretty much a dead town when it comes to FOSS

 Eric

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
 jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote:
  if you want, I can suggest/survey it :p
 
  On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Have u consider d cost already? Venue, contractors, ap, fb, man
 power,
  printing, av and so on?
 
  Sent from my HTC
 
  - Reply message -
  From: Mustakim Ahmad chi...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43 am
  Subject: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
  To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 
  Vote for JB
 
  On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   kalau nak buat luar dari kuala lumpur, JB maybe a better choice
 since
   lagi
   accessible to singapore. this can probably help to increase
 attendance
   that
   you will lose from the day trip crowds in KL
  
   AJ
  
  
   On 6 January 2011 09:28, Muhammad Syafiq
   creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Wahhh.. jauhnya bos..
  
  
  
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   On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
   linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera,
  
   This is still under discussion and need community feedback.
  
   MOSC2011 suggested to be at Pulau Pinang.
  
   Feed back please.
  
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Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL

2011-01-06 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Guys,

Setuju. Kenape kite sibuk2 nak pindah2 tempat sedangkan banyak isu lain yg
lebih penting yang patut kite tangani dulu. The last MOSC, kebanyakkan
speaker complain kate audience kite terlalu passive. Dengar tu dengar, tapi
takde feedback, cam zombie. Cam tu jugak ngan isue budget. MDec nak sponsor
lagi ke? Kite kene telan microsoft punye marketing lagi ke? Cam ne dengan
quality dari segi invitation etc.?

Ni ade some of my observations kalau dah terlupa la
http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2010/07/my-take-on-mosc-2010.html

Mari kite carik penyelesaian utk ni dulu. Then, nak gi Ceruk Tok Kun pon
boleh

Azrul



On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, saiful akusai...@gmail.com wrote:

 vote JB or Penang

 but speaker list dan topic kena boom dengen current situation, pengisian
 jugak aku rasa perlu ubah dari tahun2 sebelum

 buat something new yg tak pernah kita buat, contohnya invitation untuk
 budak sekolah menengah sekitar kawasan - untuk sesi lawatan, handle 'counter
 game' atau develop oss product antara sekolah, buat kerjasama dengan MOE dan
 kerajaan Pulau Pinang, mintak hantar beberapa pegawai kerajaan dari pelbagai
 agensi, atau present paper (AMDI, UNIMAP), kita mesti ada target group, apa
 yg aku perhatikan dalam MOSC banyak community yg join, tp dalam MyGOSSCON,
 ramai penjawat awam yg datang lepak, salah satu event BOF dalam mygosscon
 tahun nih tak berapa menjadi berbanding tahun sebelum ia dianjurkan. last
 year punye BOF lebih happening, ini pandangan peribadi aku la sebab aku ada
 pada setiap tahun di gosscon dan mosc.


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Azrul MADISA azrulha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no pb (JB or Penang) as long as speakers are provided with proper
 transport and accomodations

 Azrul


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, lutfi raffi lutfira...@gmail.com wrote:

 + JB


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM, sweemeng ng swees...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't where it would be. But then a road trip would definitely more
 fun than KL


 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte 
 msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ah well, out of KL will be good.

 JB is only better because of the proximity to SG and the potential
 crowd it may bring.

 Penang...pretty much a dead town when it comes to FOSS

 Eric

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
 jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote:
  if you want, I can suggest/survey it :p
 
  On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:53 AM, azs...@gmail.com azs...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Have u consider d cost already? Venue, contractors, ap, fb, man
 power,
  printing, av and so on?
 
  Sent from my HTC
 
  - Reply message -
  From: Mustakim Ahmad chi...@gmail.com
  Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 9:43 am
  Subject: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2011 Outsite KL
  To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 
  Vote for JB
 
  On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:36 AM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   kalau nak buat luar dari kuala lumpur, JB maybe a better choice
 since
   lagi
   accessible to singapore. this can probably help to increase
 attendance
   that
   you will lose from the day trip crowds in KL
  
   AJ
  
  
   On 6 January 2011 09:28, Muhammad Syafiq
   creativeneur...@gmail.comwrote:
  
   Wahhh.. jauhnya bos..
  
  
  
   محمد شافق بن مذلي
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSCC : Heard The News Could Somebody Official Confirm It

2010-12-20 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
What news?

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Team,

Hear The News Could somebody official Confirm It

Thanks.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Is Oracle Evil?

2010-12-19 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
This is Larry Elison were talking about not the pushover Sun people of
yesteryears. This is a guy who enjoys competition and possibly
war. Bringing him one would just make his day :)

Azrul

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 Oracle. Im still wait and see. But Oracle already give an erk to me.
 They just replace SUN with Oracle and try to rebranding SUN. Hmmm.
 Wrong move for me if really want to get community to be on their side.
 By attacking Google, they already making enemies with OSS community. I
 would say, 1 more step wrongly they took it, it will be a war 

 On Dec 18, 10:02 pm, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote:
  Boy I sure stirred up some flames with my post about Novell on the
  Ubuntu Malaysia Mailing list (Novell, Open Source? ... Hah! :
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-my/2010-December/003381.html).
 
  The ongoing conversation has turned to an even bigger villain: Oracle.
  They killed OpenSolaris and sued Google for their Java implementation.
  We're not sure what they're going to do with OpenOffice, but now we have
  LibreOffice.  And we're worried about what they're going to do to MySQL
  and VirtualBox.
 
  Professionally, I have a long history with Oracle's proprietary products
  that precedes my awareness of FLOSS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOSS
 .
 
  At first, I was just going to continue replying to the email thread, but
  I wanted better exposure and, hopefully, more feedback.  So I wrote a
  blog entry...
 
  http://www.ghodmode.com/blog/2010/12/is-oracle-evil/
 
  I'm cross-posting this email to a couple of related mailing lists as
  well as BCC-ing a few people in this field whose opinion I respect.
 
  Please take a look and, if you have anything to add, comment on the
  article.  It's a quick read, but I've linked to some other related
  stories that are also good reads.  Incidentally, those stories also link
  to other related stories that also link to other related stories...
  They're all good reads and this has kept me busy for a week :-}
 
  Thank you.
 
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Re: [osdcmy-public] LINUX SW GUI DEVELOPMENT

2010-12-17 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
The simplest way to do Java is to download netbeans (netbeans.org) and try
out this tutorial http://netbeans.org/kb/docs/java/quickstart-gui.html

Azrul

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 GTK also have Java bindings.

 See http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/



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  Alamak, sorry. I somehow put the wrong contohs =_= I'm going to do this
 with
  java, not phyton. My bad
 
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  Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] LINUX SW GUI DEVELOPMENT
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  First identify what programming language you intend to use - Python,
 C/C++,
  Perl, Java, etc. Next pick a UI toolkit - GTK, Qt, etc. I saw you
 mentioned
  PyGTK, so that pretty much translates to Python with GTK. Once you've
 learnt
  your programming language of choice, then start learning the basic
 concept
  of the UI toolkit which you're going to use. Different toolkits have
 their
  own way (concept) of drawing the screen. Once you're familiar with the
  fundamental concept, you can start creating your UI. Take things step by
  step, only then it's not going to overwhelm you.
 
  On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani
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  Salam and Hello World
  Can someone run me through on how to develop a GUI for an
 already-existing
  Linux software package? Apparently the software runs via command line (on
  Linux) and I need a GUI for the software to make people's lives (and mine
 as
  well) easier. I don't need the codes or anything, just a quick intro and
  some insight, and some hints on how to start.
 
  I've checked out PyGTK, Qt and such and I HONESTLY have no idea on how to
  start. Blame the holidays.
  Thank you in advance, and yes, I am a noob. Tried googling but nothing
 turns
  out to be understandable OR I simply used the wrong keywords =_=
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[osdcmy-public] The community brought this upon itself

2010-12-10 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
*sigh*

http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2010/12/you-brought-this-upon-yourself.html

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Re: [osdcmy-public] calling all developers - submit ur cv if ur interested to work in Experian :)

2010-12-02 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
experian rocks!

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guilty



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[osdcmy-public] Fwd: [myjug] OTN Developer Day [1 Attachment]

2010-11-03 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
FYI

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OTN Developer Day is happening on Nov 24 at Hilton KL. See attachment.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Our lovely Malaysian Linux Distribution, simpleLinux has updated to version 3.0. As in 26/10/10.

2010-10-29 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Congrat guys!


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 Hello everybody,

 Glad to announce that we have release the simpleLinux EXT 
 (Extended)http://www.simplelinux.tk/version 3.0 by 26/10/10. It is now 
 available for download hosted at
 by Averse.net (still that UPM - Universiti Putra Malaysia mirror doesn't
 RSYNCEd yet, so It might take a while, however). We are proud to make it
 keep working and thus, not terminated  -- separuh jalan.

 Moreover, we love free softwares; that might be collected into one place;
 but, with small size.

 (p/s free Malaysian open source software is just like a monster that become
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Project Manager for Hire

2010-09-04 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
betul betul

On 9/5/10, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 On 9/5/10 1:55 AM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote:
 Aik apa sudah jadi?

 Mau makan gaji kah?

   tak apa.. asal dari sumber halal wa berkat...


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Re: [osdcmy-public] Software Freedom Day

2010-07-19 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I'll contribute a talk

Azrul


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 Sounds great. Depends on the timing, I will be in.

 -Anuar-

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  Bro.. can also but i prefer something new to be a global ass-kicker. Let
 us theoretise about how the recent Google Map thingy can integrate
 wonderfully to the ERP locators. I put the basic idea here
 http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2010/07/google-devfest-in-kuala-lumpur.html





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[osdcmy-public]

2010-07-06 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Hi guys

Here's my take on MOSC 2010
http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2010/07/my-take-on-mosc-2010.html

Enjoy

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Re: [osdcmy-public]

2010-07-06 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Frankly, at first, I did not want to come either. Seeing another Microsoft
competition in MOSC makes me feel pathetic as an open source geek. As if we
can be bought over that easily. But then again, I do value my friends. MDeC
already cut down their budget tremendously, and if I decided to abandon them
too, what kind of friend would I be. So I close my eyes and swallow the
Microsoft 'milk' and hope for the best. Unfortunately, I was disappointed...
but if it's for my friends, it's ok I guess  :)

Azrul

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 To lawan sharuzzaman, i've highlighted  the point before they come up with
 the MOSC idea:p. Cheers.

 Sent from my iPhone

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 Thanks Azrul.

 You have highlighted the point that I have highlighted to the organizer,
 way before the event started.

 And you understand why people like me, did not come to the event.




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 Here's my take on MOSC 2010
  http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2010/07/my-take-on-mosc-2010.html
 http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2010/07/my-take-on-mosc-2010.html

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Paper proposal

2010-05-18 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Hey, this is a repeate of last year's paper, tak aci :))


On 5/18/10, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 Azrul got me gatal, so i pun nak tunjuk paperlah:

 ADEMPIERE FOR SUPER-FAST ENTERPRISE APP DEVELOPMENT.

 EXTRACT
 1. Just develop your model sql create statements - from 1 min to 1hour
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 3. Input data and generate reports - ON THE FLY
 4. Prototype your business logic (learn here and continue at home)
 All CRUD, sign-on role access, Ajax and Java clients, and matured in 30
 languages with much more utils ready to go.

 Presented as a 2hour workshop lab workout.

 SAMPLE MODEL:
 a. Air flight Schedule checking system
 b. Create SCHEDULE - origin, destination, flight number
 c. Create BOOKING - customer, dateBooking, origin, destination, flight
 number, SeatNo.
 d. Create FLIGHT - flightNo, seatArray[30,6]

 BUSINESS LOGIC
 1. Populate your Flight with seat nos, some Flight Schedules
 2. When customer select origin, show the target available with flight
 and seat nos to choose from.
 3. Upon confirmation print out the flight ticket.

 WORKSHOP TASKS:
 1. Create the Models
 2. Create some dynamic logic
 3. Create some printformat
 Non source core coding but clever use of application dictionary.

 SKILL LEVEL
 1. Intermediate Java, SQL and common-sense.
 2. Stable-minded, not-bitchy and respectful of the Open Source Guru.

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 It's been a long time since I've written anything here, been busy with
 work (yup, I'm actually working for a change ). Anyway, i wanted to
 propose a paper on latest and greatest news on the Java EE front +
 OSGI stuff. I know that paper submission date is due (my bad), ais
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[osdcmy-public] Paper proposal

2010-05-17 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Hi guys,

It's been a long time since I've written anything here, been busy with work
(yup, I'm actually working for a change ). Anyway, i wanted to propose a
paper on latest and greatest news on the Java EE front + OSGI stuff. I know
that paper submission date is due (my bad), ais there anyway I can still
submit?

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Paper proposal

2010-05-17 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
My abstract:

Java Enterprise Edition has been going through a mid-life crisis: it
tries to stay young (and hip) despite its age. Just like any one
having a mid-life crisis, they are easy to take advantage of. In this
paper we will look how these features can be used and exploited to our
own advantage. Provide it with a powerful motorbike, a lether jacket
and a pair of shades (asynchronous processing, JBPM and Quartz) and
you can't really tell its age nor the maturity it keeps on the back
pocket just in case you need it.

On 5/17/10, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 Entschuldigen!

 On 5/17/10 8:53 PM, CL Chow wrote:

 Bitte ;)

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Paper proposal

2010-05-17 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Now you have to come to my talk la :))

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:26 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Ok, you got my tummy tucked in. Now what? Show laa the whole chick,and the
 bike ! :)


 On 5/17/10 11:43 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote:

 My abstract:

 Java Enterprise Edition has been going through a mid-life crisis: it
 tries to stay young (and hip) despite its age. Just like any one
 having a mid-life crisis, they are easy to take advantage of. In this
 paper we will look how these features can be used and exploited to our
 own advantage. Provide it with a powerful motorbike, a lether jacket
 and a pair of shades (asynchronous processing, JBPM and Quartz) and
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Paper proposal

2010-05-17 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Submitted

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:

Azrul,

Just submit it here.

http://conf.oss.my/cfp.html

I will look into it. Workshop style ok tak? 45 minutes

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Language to Replace Java

2010-04-23 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I would suggest scala

1. extracting tables from web pages and converting them to text files --
DONE

http://www.hars.de/2009/01/html-as-xml-in-scala.html
http://john-d-amos.blogspot.com/2009/08/vrbo-web-scraper-using-scala-and.html

2. transforming / restructuring the data into dimensional models

3. analytical regressions on the dimensional models

This is where scala really shines, read about maps, reduce and flatmap. Plus
the scalability of the JVM (running on something like Terracota, you can
have literally thousands of nodes processing your stuff - if u do need that
many)







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 thanks boh.

 this looks promising. the specific things that i am looking are small
 backend processing stuff. examples are :
 1. extracting tables from web pages and converting them to text files
 2. transforming / restructuring the data into dimensional models
 3. analytical regressions on the dimensional models

 things that the example bi tools do.

 the instance you mentioned is a good example.

 are there any equivalent open source projects ? python applications that
 does analysis on numbers ?






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 hi Raja,

 as always I wld suggest Python but what exactly do you have in
 mind. From what I can see, its a BI type application, but do you
 intend to rebuild the entire thing when there are some good tools
 already out there?

 Or do you have some specialised solution that these cannot solve?

 If its the 2nd case, then I think Python is a great tool. If its not a
 well defined problem, it could call for a fair bit of experimentation,
 different approaches to the problem, compare the approaches etc...
 Python's dynamic nature and rapid-prototyping capability allows for a
 great deal of experimentation, and exploration to arrive at the right
 solution. And you are not afraid to 'throw away' code, because the
 cost/speed/efficiency of writing Python code is is pretty low.

 Then once you have the solution/algorithms in mind, you can deploy it
 in Python, which has many choices of frameworks etc... and if you have
 performance bottlenecks, parts of it can be rewritten in C and you can
 call that from Python w/o problems.

 The only problem is you may find a lack of Python programmers, a
 problem that can be said of good Java, Ruby and even PHP programmers
 (and i don't mean cut  paste programmers;-).  But they can be quite
 easily trained up. I have personally taught an ASP programmer Python,
 and he was able to do fairly sophisticated task after 2 weeks, it was
 to pull log data off a mobile app from a Postgres DB, rehash the data
 into another DB, to generate sales reports, delivered online with
 graphs in JS, live, on the web. (Mind you this guy had a far bit of
 initiative to go thru the docs and tutorial...)

 I can certainly help with the training, and I'm sure I can get others
 from the Python community.

 PM me if you wish to discuss further

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  any suggestion for language to replace java
 
  the type of applications that we are looking at are
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Cloud in OSCONF 2010

2010-04-04 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Just to be a devil's advocate here, wouldn't the cloud be contrary to the
spirit of open source? Once you're in the cloud, you're locked. Not to say
that cloud is not useful, but probably not in OSconf. Maybe MDEC should have
a CloudConf then it would fit better.

Azrul


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 Talk about cloud infrastructure would be cool,
 Or deploying on a cloud infrastructure would be interesting, just for sake
 of getting the experience


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Re: [osdcmy-public] What you want to see if we had a Open Source Conference in Malaysia?

2010-02-21 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I want to see microsoft squirm like a worm [?][?]

On a more serious note, I really hope there'll be:

1) More high end OSS stuff (like scalling your app to 1000 servers,
persisting to more than several dbs at a time and still stay consistent, how
to make stuff blazing fast under crazy load, how to zealously cache your
distributed system and still keep your data updated, millitary grade
security, how to design an app with enourmous domain requirement - think
hundreds of DB tables - and still keep high cohesiveness, low coupling (i.e.
no spaghetti ER model) and high usability)

2) Hands on stuff preferably with things stated above

3) More real world usage of OSS in the industry - preferable outside of the
usual PHP/Portal stuff (sure, PHP is great to do portal but surely OSS has
other unexplored niche that we need to expose - PHP for system programming
anyone? What about a messaging queue in Erlang?)

4) Less vendor stuff - please, no more 'porting stuff to MS' competition.

5) Highlight the plight of the off-the-mill street-wise OSS
developer/engineer (I've been one for the last 1 year - and it's not
pretty). Making a decent living is like hell! (you could get projects tons
of them, but everyone expect you to charge cheap since you're OSS, plus,
they'll take a lng time to pay (some still owe me money - after 4 months
now) because you don't really have licensing stuff.

6) Preferable, all presentators need to present their own contributions (in
form of code, software, tutorial or what not). They shouldn't just spew
things you can get directly from the web.

7) Oh yeah, ice cream for desert :))

Just my 2 cents

Azrul Sensei











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Re: [osdcmy-public] ramai FOSS berasaskan komersil

2010-02-19 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
There is nothing wrong if a company or an individual wants to use prop.
technology. Pay the license and knock yourself out. But when it comes to
gov. education instituion, glc or any entity with public/national interest,
transparency is a must and potential lock down by anyone be it Microsoft or
Google is not a luxury one can enjoy. This is because any entity with
public/national interest at its heart must be as independent as the nation
it upholds. Allowing willy nilly lock down should be equated to treachery,
at least in spirit. Now, nothing here says that FOSS solution should be
cheap, in fact, it should be more expensive since the creator releases
control of his intelectual property in total.



Azrul Sensei

2010/2/17 red1 r...@red1.org

 Minggu lepas ketika saya berada di Paris menyertai Paris JUG (Java User
 Group), saya perhati ramai yang menggunakan Windows walaupun berbincang
 pasal Java punya FOSS. Pencipta JBoss, iaitu Marc Fleury pun memberi
 syarahan kerana dia memang orang Perancis. JBoss sudah dijual olehnya ke
 RedHat. Jutawan lah dia ni. Budaya sana pun kuat mengikuti Google dan lebih
 suka GWT daripada ZK Ajax yang digunakan dalam ADempiere. Kemudian terbang
 ke Munich, terkandas kerana salji dan bermalam di lapangan terbang
 Amsterdam. Semasa menunggu penerbangan pengganti keesokan pagi, perhati PC
 bimbit orang sekeliling mengunakan OS windows.  Dalam kapal terbang kembali
 ke KLIA sebelah saya pula seorang freelancer Belanda yang buat CMS pakai C#
 yang Open Source tetapi windows based. Dia kata tak terfikir mau pergi ke
 Java. Gembira seorang diri kompeni sendiri tanpa pekerja. Masa itu dia ingin
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 Kesimpulannya banyak kuasa pengaruh dari gergasi komersil dunia yang
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Malaysian Government Claims 95 Percent OSS Adoption

2010-01-31 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I'ts really hard to stop bitching but this 95 % business is really getting
to me hahahhahaha...

Anyway, just a few months ago, it was 70 %
http://www.opensource.org/node/489.

Wow! from 70% to 95% in a few months. By this rate we will have 115% by next
year hahhahahaha...


This was my take when it reached 70 % previously.

Enjoy

The gist of it: Revealing statistics without showing the methodology is the
equivalent of saying the world is flat and you will fall off its edge if you
travel too far.

Anyway, keep up the good work Boh Yap. I'll be bitching^H^H^H^H^H
criticising too

I promise myself not to bitch too much but this is such a troll bait, I have
 to bite.

 Disclaimer: I'm not trying to belittle OSCC here, it's just that I believe
 that claims must be backed by facts, not just some numbers plucked from the
 air (maybe the facts are there that I just couldn't find it, if so, please
 point me to the right direction).

 My beef is this, how the heck do you get 70% from? just because a wannabe
 geek inside a gov. office uses OOo suddenly the whole office is counted as
 adopting open source? What about mixed environment, how do you count that?
 What's the methodology? What about running OOo on Windows? is that
 opensource or not?

 Things like these are important because it helps us to focus on what is
 needed. I mean, FOSS (OSS/FLOSS/whatever) is supposed to be winning and yet
 MS is laughing all the way to the bank with our tax money, what gives? The
 next guy shouting cybermerdeka! would be laughed at and yet the gov still
 kow-tow to Balmer like he's some enlighten being or something.

 Didn't someone say that the greatest achievement of the devil is to convince
 the world he does not exist... not necessarily true, but...

 Note: a more relevant study would show how much licenses purchased say last
 year compared to this year and how much we actually spend and how much
 saving is done. I guess those numbers are just too depressing to be
 released.
 Azrul



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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi all,

 thanks for the criticism...

 I criticise because we NEED to be critical (not to condemn), one
 should not just accept being spoon-fed numbers as they are, but must
 be substantiated. Perhaps I am cynical, but I/we have been fed too
 much positive numbers by the powers that be, so much so that
 everything looks rosy...
 Look at what we have been told about MSC, is it a real success..?
 Maybe I have been in this industry, and at the 'bleeding edge' for too
 long, I wanna belief, but ... just believing ain't gonna make it
 happen.

 I for one don't want the OSS community to just 'feel good' just becos
 some numbers says we are winning... been thru too many situations like
 that, where I thought I would win becos we/we had the better
 knowledge, better technology, better product, but underestimated the
 'enemies'  marketing power. Our enemies are strong and they have
 marketing dollars to spend... think M$!

 I for one don't want the OSS community to just 'feel good' just becos
 some numbers says we are winning... been thru too many situations like
 that, where I thought I would win becos we/we had the better
 knowledge, better technology, better product, but underestimated the
 'enemies'  marketing power. Our enemies are strong and they have
 marketing dollars to spend... think M$!

 Also, as a community I want us all to be wary, keep improving ourselves.

 No I don't wanna wait for the numbers, beacuse as I mentioned before,
 the numbers (or rather statistics) may lie! (and yes, I majored in
 Statistics).

 Web servers are not the only OSS soltn, true, but they are the most
 visible and easiest to assess. And Web Servers are where OSS has the
 strongest justification, compared to the desktop. If we don't/can't
 have a strong foothold there then, the chances on desktop are even
 slimmer. And looking at the link Haris provided, Open Office usage are
 pretty low, despite (from talking to OSCC staff), they have conducted
 many Open Office classes, so the uptake is still low...

 On the other hand, Raja I believe, has told me that the majority of
 Web Servers has gone OSS, mainly because internal IT Dept, either
 couldn't get a budget, or wait for a budget and decided to 'try' OSS,
 found that it works and took it from there. There could also have been
 guys that are already OSS supporters and persuaded their management to
 go OSS. These guys (respective IT depts) are the guerilla fighters of
 the OSS community and should be applauded and supported.
 They should be 'recruited' to be part of OSDC if not already so.
 Perhaps some of them are members of the OSDC, and could they pls give
 their views?

 But the point I'd like to make is that the success of OSS then is
 still limited, its the result of action of small groups of
 'enthusiasts' within the government, and is still NOT A MATTER OF
 POLICY, or it may be policy but its not being followed...  Case in
 

[osdcmy-public] T-shirt idea

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Re: [osdcmy-public] MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010 Core Team

2010-01-12 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
I'm volunteering too. I don't mind being on the committee verifying papers

Azrul


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 salam..
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 Interview process? Haris? :-) Wah such a good respond within a day.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010 Core Team

2010-01-12 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Saya tak sukarela, saya nak T-shirt hahhahaha

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 nak jadi sukarelawan juga...

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[osdcmy-public] Recurring patterns in software

2010-01-12 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Hi all,
A followup of my previous blog entry. What I have newly discovered about
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[osdcmy-public] Tshirt idea for osconf

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
Got bored, so here are some idea for osconf t-shirt


idea1: OSCONF 2010 converted me from .Net to PHP

idea2: I went to OSCONF 2010 just to get this non-opensource t-shirt

idea3: OSCONF 2010 = Merdeka 2.0

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Tshirt idea for osconf

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
idea4 = I went to OSCONF 2010 to skip classes... and yet I learn so much
(damn those lightning talks!)

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Tshirt idea for osconf

2010-01-04 Terurut Topik Azrul MADISA
We should have let Oreily sue. It'll be the cheapest international
advertisement ever!

Hahhahaha

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 Last year we nearly get sued... :) Hehehe.

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  idea 7= OSCONF 2010 was so big! we almost got sued! :))
 
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  Azrul, thumbs up for idea 4. Really related to me ;)
 
  idea6= I went to OSCONF 2010 just want to ride on rails with rubies :-)
 
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  idea 5= I went to OSCONF 2010 to score chix, and yet  fall in love with
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