Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

At this moments none are sensitive in term of secretive but sensitive
in term of hati.

and I hope if we are discussing sensitive and secretive information,
we may not know it nd anyone that knowing it secretive, please email
me. We will stop it.

This osdc.my is archive in public archive. Mail-archive,
opensubscriber, twitter facebook page.

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

are you saying that najib the pm is also the same following najib ?

Generate Patch - Index of /pub
3 Jul 2007*...* +# $Id: __init__.py 1578 2007-07-03 05:25:47Z *najib* $
Index: *...* fedoraLocalPath / '*Fedora*/base').mkdir() + + f =
open(path(self. *...*
svn.osgdc.org/rdiff/kusu?csid=1578&u&N -
Cached


whoa ! whoever knew our pm is a sifu g33k ?

by the way i signed the osa form 5 times and done the tapisan keselamatan 3
times already - so far no problem




On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Ghodmode  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
>
>> Are we discussing any sensitive information here?
>>
>>
> Does it have to be true, or can we just make something up?
>
> For example, I heard Najib uses Fedora KDE Spin and uses K9Copy to make
> unauthorized copies of Disney DVDs to give to all of his grandchildren.
>
> ... I completely made that up, but it'll be in the Google search results
> now :)
>
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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar]

I'm sorry if I had offended anyone. But just to remind those that had 
signed 'that form' including myself.


On 03/16/2011 04:21 PM, Ghodmode wrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar 
mailto:u...@umarzuki.org>> wrote:


Morning everyone,

I found that there are a lot of information related to our
government discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?

Just my 2 cents.


Granted, I come from a completely different culture (I'm American), 
but I don't think that any information related to the government or 
the country should be a secret to the people.

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Ghodmode]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng  wrote:

> Are we discussing any sensitive information here?
>
>
Does it have to be true, or can we just make something up?

For example, I heard Najib uses Fedora KDE Spin and uses K9Copy to make
unauthorized copies of Disney DVDs to give to all of his grandchildren.

... I completely made that up, but it'll be in the Google search results now
:)

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Ghodmode]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ghodmode  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
> u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:
>
>> Morning everyone,
>>
>> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
>> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>
> Granted, I come from a completely different culture (I'm American), but I
> don't think that any information related to the government or the country
> should be a secret to the people.
>

On the other hand, I don't think we should use this list to discuss topics
that aren't related to FLOSS.

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Ghodmode]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:

> Morning everyone,
>
> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>

Granted, I come from a completely different culture (I'm American), but I
don't think that any information related to the government or the country
should be a secret to the people.

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[red1]

IMHO if we are debating on govt policies, be they written or unwritten,
it is still ok, because we are not creating falsehood nor lies, based
on unfounded facts nor conjecture that implicate individuals who are
merely govt servants following such policies.

Now for govt servants, what about that? Once i met a senior govt
official (name and org withheld to protect from GO, OSA, ISA, and other
susahAs) who provided me inside info and urged me to raise an issue
(sorry Rafe but i guess you are popular) MDec which he failed within
his own division. I was curious, but he reiterated that as an NGO or
NGI (indiividual rakyat) we have every right to raise concern, but they
as govt servants cannot do so. And he cautioned that we have to raise
it 'officially' meaning thru proper channels such as this OSDCY.my and
not thru surat layang, hate mail or anonymous blogs.

Still, we have to be fair, as even MDec falls under govt policy and
they have an agenda like any other to priotise towards a big national
level which has lots of outside forces at play. For us, we have to
continue articulating as a pressure group. And of course allow govt
agencies to play their roles as defined by the political masters that
the democracy has voted them into power.

But if we do not highlight issues, then the ruling govt can blame us
for keeping silent and thus not withing their grasp to formulate the
policies that we want.

That is why i support OSDC.my as a whole but that does not mean i do
not speak out what i feel to be of priority. I try to speak using nice
words, but sometimes my keyboard get stuck at the F key. :)

On 3/16/11 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
so long as we can point a link to the source of the
information on a formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be
ok.
  
if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link
to the official source.
  
with regards to unflattering comments about the government or
organisation or persons or project this mailing list is publicly
searchable through google.
  
  
  

  
  Majlis
Berbuka Puasa mdec Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak
Yatim ...
   - [ Translate this page ]
  18 Sep 2009 ... Majlis Berbuka Puasa mdec
Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak ...
  www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/
- Cached
  


  
  Flickr:
linuxmalaysia's Photostream
  
  
  9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
Majlis Berbuka Puasa MDeC Dan OSDC.my Bersama
Anak-anak Yatim 160909 by ...
  www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/
- Cached
  
  
  Show more results from flickr.com
  
  
  Get more
discussion results


  
  Java is big! What is mdec doing about it? - OSDC.my
Mailing List ...
  
  28 Feb 2011 ... It is time we reveal our
strength and not even consider mdec's existence. For what may
i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch anyway ...
  groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk...
- Cached
  


  
  OSDC.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source
Developers
  
  22 Sep 2009 ... MDeC's
Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with OSDC.my's Vice President The aim
of OSDC.my is to unite local open source developers and their
  ...
  www.scribd.com/.../OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers
- Cached
  


  
  OSDC.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source
developers
  
  22 Sep 2009 ... The formation of the OSDC.my
initiative is also part of the MDeC's plan to move in the
direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic Plan in the ...
  commtechasia.net/.../648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html
- Cached
  

  
  
  
for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki
Bin Mochlis Moktar  wrote:
  Morning
everyone,

I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Boh Yap]

why this paranoia?

Surely anything available thru the normal media channels cannot be
considered a secret? Part of the being 'open' is the sharing of
information, no?
 And why should content related to 'open' tenders by secrets? As a
thought experiment, suppose prices & specs for such tenders are also
made 'open', then the bidding process would be much more competitive
resulting in a better deal for the tenderer. Of course the decision
making  process should also be transparent! That'll be the day...

Having said that, any 'secrets' regarding the OpenHIS tender/project,
and is our community mobilising to do something about this? Or is all
this a secret?


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:07 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> I don't think that is a secret though, the only one closest is the tender
> which from what I is a open tend as in OPEN.
> I personally don't see that is a issue
> I could be wrong, and yes I'm not a lawyer
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:05 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> I think it is not a very secret, unless it is confidential (macam sama
>> saja). He he
>> But, I think, to make anything in the government to be transparent, we
>> have to be transparent to discuss, because at the end of the day, everything
>> the government decide to do, is equivalent with what rakyat needs.
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
>>
>> 
>> From: sweemeng ng 
>> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:40:49 +0800
>> To: osdcmy-list
>> ReplyTo: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret
>> Are we discussing any sensitive information here?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a
>>> formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.
>>>
>>> if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
>>> the official source.
>>>
>>> with regards to unflattering comments about the government or
>>> organisation or persons or project this mailing list is publicly
>>> searchable through google.
>>>
>>>
>>> Majlis Berbuka Puasa mdec Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim ...
>>>
>>>  - [ Translate this page ]
>>> 18 Sep 2009 ... Majlis Berbuka Puasa mdec Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak
>>> ...
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - Cached
>>>
>>> Flickr: linuxmalaysia's Photostream
>>>
>>> 9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
>>> Majlis Berbuka Puasa MDeC Dan OSDC.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim 160909 by
>>> ...
>>> www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - Cached
>>> Show more results from flickr.com
>>>
>>> Get more discussion results
>>>
>>> Java is big! What is mdec doing about it? - OSDC.my Mailing List ...
>>>
>>> 28 Feb 2011 ... It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider
>>> mdec's existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch
>>> anyway ...
>>> groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... - Cached
>>>
>>> OSDC.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source Developers
>>>
>>> 22 Sep 2009 ... MDeC's Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with OSDC.my's Vice
>>> President The aim of OSDC.my is to unite local open source developers and
>>> their ...
>>>
>>> www.scribd.com/.../OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers -
>>> Cached
>>>
>>> OSDC.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source developers
>>>
>>> 22 Sep 2009 ... The formation of the OSDC.my initiative is also part of
>>> the MDeC's plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic Plan in
>>> the ...
>>>
>>> commtechasia.net/.../648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html
>>> - Cached
>>>
>>> for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar
>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Morning everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
>>>> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[sweemeng ng]

I don't think that is a secret though, the only one closest is the tender
which from what I is a open tend as in OPEN.
I personally don't see that is a issue

I could be wrong, and yes I'm not a lawyer

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:05 PM,  wrote:

> I think it is not a very secret, unless it is confidential (macam sama
> saja). He he
> But, I think, to make anything in the government to be transparent, we have
> to be transparent to discuss, because at the end of the day, everything the
> government decide to do, is equivalent with what rakyat needs.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.
> --
> *From: * sweemeng ng 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:40:49 +0800
> *To: *osdcmy-list
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret
>
> Are we discussing any sensitive information here?
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a
>> formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.
>>
>> if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
>> the official source.
>>
>> with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation
>> or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through
>> google.
>>
>>
>>
>>1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim *
>>...* <http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/>  - [ 
>> Translate
>>this 
>> page<http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ms&u=http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/&ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCAQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmdec%2Bosdc%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3D8UN%26channel%3Dfs%26prmd%3Divns>]
>>18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama
>>Anak-anak *...*
>>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - 
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4KSYpBH8SJsJ:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/+mdec+osdc&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>>2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's 
>> Photostream<http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/>
>>9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
>>Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim
>>160909 by *...*
>>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - 
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lKn-DBcPDL8J:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/+mdec+osdc&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>>Show more results from 
>> flickr.com<http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mdec+osdc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#>
>>Get more discussion 
>> results<http://www.google.com/search?q=mdec+osdc&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=8UN&channel=fs&prmd=ivns&tbs=dsc:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBw&ved=0CCgQmAcwAg>
>>3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing
>>List 
>> *...*<http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d?lnk=raot>
>>28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even
>>consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give
>>ua free lunch anyway *...*
>>groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... -
>>
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQhX9StDQHAJ:groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d%3Flnk%3Draot+mdec+osdc&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>>4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source 
>> Developers<http://www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers>
>>22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's
>>Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source
>>developers and their *...*
>>www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC*
>>-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - 
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0WUOtim2CccJ:www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers+mdec+osdc&cd=5&hl=

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[tajul]

I think it is not a very secret, unless it is confidential (macam sama saja). 
He he
But, I think, to make anything in the government to be transparent, we have to 
be transparent to discuss, because at the end of the day, everything the 
government decide to do, is equivalent with what rakyat needs.
 
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.

-Original Message-
From: sweemeng ng 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:40:49 
To: osdcmy-list
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

Are we discussing any sensitive information here?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal
> channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.
>
> if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
> the official source.
>
> with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation
> or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through
> google.
>
>
>
>1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim *
>...* <http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/>  - [ 
> Translate
>this 
> page<http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ms&u=http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/&ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCAQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmdec%2Bosdc%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dubuntu%26hs%3D8UN%26channel%3Dfs%26prmd%3Divns>]
>18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama
>Anak-anak *...*
>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - 
> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4KSYpBH8SJsJ:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/+mdec+osdc&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's 
> Photostream<http://www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/>
>9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
>Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim
>160909 by *...*
>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - 
> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lKn-DBcPDL8J:www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/+mdec+osdc&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>Show more results from 
> flickr.com<http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=mdec+osdc&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#>
>Get more discussion 
> results<http://www.google.com/search?q=mdec+osdc&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=8UN&channel=fs&prmd=ivns&tbs=dsc:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=9yyATfzuF8_IrQfo_7DIBw&ved=0CCgQmAcwAg>
>3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing List
>
> *...*<http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d?lnk=raot>
>28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even
>consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua
>free lunch anyway *...*
>groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... -
>
> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQhX9StDQHAJ:groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list/browse_thread/thread/167d94791725eb9c/1a643a7aa528539d%3Flnk%3Draot+mdec+osdc&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source 
> Developers<http://www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers>
>22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's
>Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source
>developers and their *...*
>www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC*
>-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - 
> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0WUOtim2CccJ:www.scribd.com/doc/33628706/OSDC-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers+mdec+osdc&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu&source=www.google.com>
>5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source 
> developers<http://commtechasia.net/tech/news/648-osdcmy-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html>
>22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also
>part of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th
>Economic Plan in the *...*
>commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc*
>my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - 
> Cached<h

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

i hope there's no such thing that is considered a secret because it could
lead to a life sentence, so i had been told and AFAIK, only if you're a
government's employee and if a vendor, you had signed the form that says you
would not leak said informations.

2011/3/16 sweemeng ng 

> Are we discussing any sensitive information here?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a
>> formal channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.
>>
>> if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
>> the official source.
>>
>> with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation
>> or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through
>> google.
>>
>>
>>
>>1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim *
>>...*   - [ 
>> Translate
>>this 
>> page]
>>18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama
>>Anak-anak *...*
>>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - 
>> Cached
>>2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's 
>> Photostream
>>9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
>>Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim
>>160909 by *...*
>>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - 
>> Cached
>>Show more results from 
>> flickr.com
>>Get more discussion 
>> results
>>3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing
>>List 
>> *...*
>>28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even
>>consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give
>>ua free lunch anyway *...*
>>groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... -
>>
>> Cached
>>4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source 
>> Developers
>>22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's
>>Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source
>>developers and their *...*
>>www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC*
>>-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - 
>> Cached
>>5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source 
>> developers
>>22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also
>>part of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th
>>Economic Plan in the *...*
>>commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc*
>>my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - 
>> Cached
>>
>>
>>
>> for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
>> u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Morning everyone,
>>>
>>> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
>>> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[sweemeng ng]

Are we discussing any sensitive information here?

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal
> channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.
>
> if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
> the official source.
>
> with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation
> or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through
> google.
>
>
>
>1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim *
>...*   - [ 
> Translate
>this 
> page]
>18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama
>Anak-anak *...*
>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ - 
> Cached
>2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's 
> Photostream
>9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
>Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim
>160909 by *...*
>www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ - 
> Cached
>Show more results from 
> flickr.com
>Get more discussion 
> results
>3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing List
>
> *...*
>28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even
>consider *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua
>free lunch anyway *...*
>groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... -
>
> Cached
>4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source 
> Developers
>22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's
>Vice President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source
>developers and their *...*
>www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC*
>-my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers - 
> Cached
>5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source 
> developers
>22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also
>part of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th
>Economic Plan in the *...*
>commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc*
>my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html - 
> Cached
>
>
>
> for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
> u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:
>
>> Morning everyone,
>>
>> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
>> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group
>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

so long as we can point a link to the source of the information on a formal
channel (eg a govt website) then we should be ok.

if you look at the posts, the author will always try to provide a link to
the official source.

with regards to unflattering comments about the government or organisation
or persons or project this mailing list is publicly searchable through
google.



   1. Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim *...
   *  - [ Translate
   this 
page]
   18 Sep 2009 *...* Majlis Berbuka Puasa *mdec* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama
   Anak-anak *...*
   www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/3931636708/ -
Cached
   2. Flickr: linuxmalaysia's
Photostream
   9 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 24 Apr 2010
   Majlis Berbuka Puasa *MDeC* Dan *OSDC*.my Bersama Anak-anak Yatim 160909
   by *...*
   www.flickr.com/photos/linuxmalaysia/ -
Cached
   Show more results from
flickr.com
   Get more discussion
results
   3. Java is big! What is *mdec* doing about it? - *OSDC*.my Mailing List *
   
...*
   28 Feb 2011 *...* It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider
   *mdec's* existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give ua free lunch
   anyway *...*
   groups.google.com/group/*osdc*my-list/.../1a643a7aa528539d?lnk... -
   
Cached
   4. *OSDC*.my Aims To Unite Malaysia's Open Source
Developers
   22 Sep 2009 *...* *MDeC's* Rizatuddin Ramli (left) with *OSDC*.my's Vice
   President The aim of *OSDC*.my is to unite local open source developers
   and their *...*
   www.scribd.com/.../*OSDC*
   -my-Aims-To-Unite-Malaysia-s-Open-Source-Developers -
Cached
   5. *OSDC*.my aims to unite Malaysia's open source
developers
   22 Sep 2009 *...* The formation of the *OSDC*.my initiative is also part
   of the *MDeC's* plan to move in the direction of Malaysia's 10th Economic
   Plan in the *...*
   commtechasia.net/.../648-*osdc*
   my-aims-to-unite-malaysias-open-source-developers.html -
Cached



for those who have signed the OSA, pls re-read the clauses




On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar <
u...@umarzuki.org> wrote:

> Morning everyone,
>
> I found that there are a lot of information related to our government
> discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> --
> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group
> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information
>
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[osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

[Umarzuki Bin Mochlis Moktar]

Morning everyone,

I found that there are a lot of information related to our government 
discussed openly on this mailing list. Is this okay?


Just my 2 cents.

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