[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-14 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
mohon maaf.. hadiah yg dilaporkan ialah rm20,000

lumayan sungguh bapak2 dan ibu2

http://www.bsa.org/country/News%20and%20Events/News%20Archives/ms/2008/ms-05292008-informantreward.aspx

http://panduan.org/node/13445

http://panduan.org/node/54916

saya suka mengenai kajian ini http://www.bsa.org/idcstudy.aspx?sc_lang=en





On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap fad...@gmail.comwrote:

 kalau report dapat RM30k bute2 ke ? wow ...

 Duit tuh leh masuk dana OSS and contribute back to community ...
 muahahahahah

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM, aziman noor azi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aku macam kenal jerk IPTS tuh... satu-satunya IPTS kat KOta Kemuning...
 heheh.
 Xper lepas nih aku gi approach itu IPTS.

 thanks.


 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:

 wah whoever reported it would have made a cool rm30k ;-) lumayan tu
 ..

 boleh tambah lagi satu artikel - panduan membuat duit dgn komputer

 pura2 ambil kursus kat kolej2 ni, kemudian kalau ada software haram
 laporkan kepada bsa. boleh lah dapat rm30k. kalau setiap 3 bulan dapat 1,
 lepas setahun boleh beli rumah cash atau lepas 2 tahun boleh beli brand new
 audi a4 cash. cool berlambak company / organisations yg tawarkan kursus
 komputer

 lebih kurang macam role the mystery shopper

 even company msc pun dah pernah kena tangkap guna software haram.




 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.comwrote:

 can we email that reporter.. ask him.. which college?

 we can go there and sekolah kan  the entire college to use OSS..

 (how about that.. ask the same reporter to write it one more time.. but
 this time the title below)

 YOUR FREE LICENSE AGENT JUST AROUND THE CORNER... choose us.. muahahaha
 ...
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik red1

Hafiz Bhari wrote:

 http://www.bharian.com.my/Tuesday/Wilayah/20091013082553/Article/index_html

 Mungkin ini masa yang tepat untuk kita 'beroperasi'.


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:18 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Cantik! Amat bersetuju. OSDC.my patut keluarkan kenyataan akhbar kepada
 BH tentang tawaran kami menyelesaikan isu tersebut.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Hafiz Bhari
Mungkin technician atau system admin mereka tak tahu apa itu OSS. Maybe in
the future mana-mana organisasi perlu letakkan requirement untuk technician
atau system admin mereka yang kenal, tahu serta boleh gunakan OSS.

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 Hafiz Bhari wrote:
 
 
 http://www.bharian.com.my/Tuesday/Wilayah/20091013082553/Article/index_html
 
  Mungkin ini masa yang tepat untuk kita 'beroperasi'.
 
 
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
Salam
ini nama wartawan ni.. sapa nak mula mengayat dia.. supaya bagi sikit sinar
utk OSS... kalu tidak ada sinar.. kita sekolahkan dia cukup2.. wahai dewa
red1.. silakan ayat anda... :-D

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:

 computer tu nampak mcm dell. takkan OS dia pun cetak rompak?

 i was in a with the community colleges and representatives dari industry.
 from aku punya observation we need to get the industry to accept people with
 skills in alternative software e.g. gimp / blender etc. then baru lah ada
 demand dan ipta  ipts akan start ajar software2 ni. lebih kurang mcm red1
 with adempiere.

 kalau dipaksa ipt ajar gimp/blender then the graduates pulak akan stuck
 because very few animation/design houses will employ them since will need to
 retrain using different applications. a balance approach is required.

 aj

 2009/10/13 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com


 Instead of advert, why can't we just go there and knock the door?

 Show them what we got and how they can benefit, with some cost of
 course. It will be much more, more, more cheaper then paying for the
 fine.

 Show them the equivalent of (taken from the news):

 Adobe Photoshop - GIMPshop
 Adobe Acrobat - PDFwriter
 Adobe Illustrator - Inkscape
 Adobe Dreamwear[sic] - Kompozer
 Adobe Flash - Ming Flash? Need some frontend
 Adobe Fireworks - Pencil animation - http://www.pencil-animation.org/
 Adobe Directory[sic] - It is Adobe Director, you *. - Blender 3D
 Microsoft Windows - GNU/Linux
 Microsoft Visual Studio. - GCC, KDevelop, Anjuta, Eclipse

 See, even the reporter is IT blind.

 Let's give them some vision.


 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 
  sweemeng ng wrote:
  How much to pay for an adverts on paper
 
  advert for what? U mean on that issue? It will be costly. So to fight
  for newshare we need to harp on newsworthy stuff. Responding to that
  news is one way. Making some 'flare' news is another. That is why i
  propose to issue headlines 4 billion loss via software licensing as a
  eye-catcher.
 
  Every week there is bound to be newsworthy stuff relevant to our cause.
  The one here in BH caught by Hafiz is a good example. I think catching
  such news can be a collective and effective work because we got lots of
  eyeballs that combs the press and online stuff. Remember, one news item
  goes a long way as it can be read by thousands. See my goat? It is now
  in german.
 
  red1
 
  
 



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Hafiz Bhari
Yes! go go go dewa red1. Even my colleagues yang ambil IT pon tak tau apa
itu OSS.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Salam
 ini nama wartawan ni.. sapa nak mula mengayat dia.. supaya bagi sikit sinar
 utk OSS... kalu tidak ada sinar.. kita sekolahkan dia cukup2.. wahai dewa
 red1.. silakan ayat anda... :-D

  Sentral: IPTS guna perisian haramOleh Mohd Hamizar Hamid
 mi...@bharian.com.my

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 follow the master, walk with the master,
 see through the master, become the master.

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 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:

 computer tu nampak mcm dell. takkan OS dia pun cetak rompak?

 i was in a with the community colleges and representatives dari industry.
 from aku punya observation we need to get the industry to accept people with
 skills in alternative software e.g. gimp / blender etc. then baru lah ada
 demand dan ipta  ipts akan start ajar software2 ni. lebih kurang mcm red1
 with adempiere.

 kalau dipaksa ipt ajar gimp/blender then the graduates pulak akan stuck
 because very few animation/design houses will employ them since will need to
 retrain using different applications. a balance approach is required.

 aj

 2009/10/13 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com


 Instead of advert, why can't we just go there and knock the door?

 Show them what we got and how they can benefit, with some cost of
 course. It will be much more, more, more cheaper then paying for the
 fine.

 Show them the equivalent of (taken from the news):

 Adobe Photoshop - GIMPshop
 Adobe Acrobat - PDFwriter
 Adobe Illustrator - Inkscape
 Adobe Dreamwear[sic] - Kompozer
 Adobe Flash - Ming Flash? Need some frontend
 Adobe Fireworks - Pencil animation - http://www.pencil-animation.org/
 Adobe Directory[sic] - It is Adobe Director, you *. - Blender 3D
 Microsoft Windows - GNU/Linux
 Microsoft Visual Studio. - GCC, KDevelop, Anjuta, Eclipse

 See, even the reporter is IT blind.

 Let's give them some vision.


 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 
  sweemeng ng wrote:
  How much to pay for an adverts on paper
 
  advert for what? U mean on that issue? It will be costly. So to fight
  for newshare we need to harp on newsworthy stuff. Responding to that
  news is one way. Making some 'flare' news is another. That is why i
  propose to issue headlines 4 billion loss via software licensing as a
  eye-catcher.
 
  Every week there is bound to be newsworthy stuff relevant to our cause.
  The one here in BH caught by Hafiz is a good example. I think catching
  such news can be a collective and effective work because we got lots of
  eyeballs that combs the press and online stuff. Remember, one news item
  goes a long way as it can be read by thousands. See my goat? It is now
  in german.
 
  red1
 
  
 



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar

Dell direct from factory (contractor version), bukan consumer punya versi.




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On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:52 PM, A Johan ajoha...@gmail.com wrote:

computer tu nampak mcm dell. takkan OS dia pun cetak rompak?

i was in a with the community colleges and representatives dari industry.
from aku punya observation we need to get the industry to accept people with
skills in alternative software e.g. gimp / blender etc. then baru lah ada
demand dan ipta  ipts akan start ajar software2 ni. lebih kurang mcm red1
with adempiere.

kalau dipaksa ipt ajar gimp/blender then the graduates pulak akan stuck
because very few animation/design houses will employ them since will need to
retrain using different applications. a balance approach is required.

aj

2009/10/13 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan sharuzza...@gmail.com


Instead of advert, why can't we just go there and knock the door?

Show them what we got and how they can benefit, with some cost of
course. It will be much more, more, more cheaper then paying for the
fine.

Show them the equivalent of (taken from the news):

Adobe Photoshop - GIMPshop
Adobe Acrobat - PDFwriter
Adobe Illustrator - Inkscape
Adobe Dreamwear[sic] - Kompozer
Adobe Flash - Ming Flash? Need some frontend
Adobe Fireworks - Pencil animation - http://www.pencil-animation.org/
Adobe Directory[sic] - It is Adobe Director, you *. - Blender 3D
Microsoft Windows - GNU/Linux
Microsoft Visual Studio. - GCC, KDevelop, Anjuta, Eclipse

See, even the reporter is IT blind.

Let's give them some vision.


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 sweemeng ng wrote:
 How much to pay for an adverts on paper

 advert for what? U mean on that issue? It will be costly. So to fight
 for newshare we need to harp on newsworthy stuff. Responding to that
 news is one way. Making some 'flare' news is another. That is why i
 propose to issue headlines 4 billion loss via software licensing as a
 eye-catcher.

 Every week there is bound to be newsworthy stuff relevant to our cause.
 The one here in BH caught by Hafiz is a good example. I think catching
 such news can be a collective and effective work because we got lots of
 eyeballs that combs the press and online stuff. Remember, one news item
 goes a long way as it can be read by thousands. See my goat? It is now
 in german.

 red1

 




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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel

Bila sudah terdesak. Kedatangan kita akan boleh diterima. Hanya ruang
mana hendak bermula. Ada detail IPTS mana yang jadi mangsa ni?

Boleh kita bantu menunjukkan alternatif.

End to end

OS ker Dektop

Gimp ke Adempire ...

Red1 kekadang a small place to start boleh jadi tempat besar untuk Adempire...

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:42 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:
 Instead of advert, why can't we just go there and knock the door?

 problem nya adalah kultur. Massa tak meletakkan nilai tinggi melainkan
 diiklan atau keluar surat khabar. Mereka percaya kat brand,  bukan orang
 dari meja ke meja. Tu mesti murah kpd mrk.

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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

kalau email kat pemberita tu mungkin dia tahu.

saya tak leh email kat dia ;)



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linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bila sudah terdesak. Kedatangan kita akan boleh diterima. Hanya ruang
 mana hendak bermula. Ada detail IPTS mana yang jadi mangsa ni?

 Boleh kita bantu menunjukkan alternatif.

 End to end

 OS ker Dektop

 Gimp ke Adempire ...

 Red1 kekadang a small place to start boleh jadi tempat besar untuk Adempire...

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:42 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:
 Instead of advert, why can't we just go there and knock the door?

 problem nya adalah kultur. Massa tak meletakkan nilai tinggi melainkan
 diiklan atau keluar surat khabar. Mereka percaya kat brand,  bukan orang
 dari meja ke meja. Tu mesti murah kpd mrk.

 




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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi,

agree with red1, such news is great promoter of FOSS.

suggestion: we collect all such news into a page of links to use as
reference material.
Could we also approach Min of Trade, to give us info on the 'cases'
that they have already 'summoned'. This will be useful statitics.

If we can work with Min of Trade, we dont need advert in paper!
We just need them to make a statement everytime they are in the news:

This could have been avoided if they have used FOSS

Perhaps Min of Trade can be our promoters ;-)


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:

 sweemeng ng wrote:
 How much to pay for an adverts on paper

 advert for what? U mean on that issue? It will be costly. So to fight
 for newshare we need to harp on newsworthy stuff. Responding to that
 news is one way. Making some 'flare' news is another. That is why i
 propose to issue headlines 4 billion loss via software licensing as a
 eye-catcher.

 Every week there is bound to be newsworthy stuff relevant to our cause.
 The one here in BH caught by Hafiz is a good example. I think catching
 such news can be a collective and effective work because we got lots of
 eyeballs that combs the press and online stuff. Remember, one news item
 goes a long way as it can be read by thousands. See my goat? It is now
 in german.

 red1

 




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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
can we email that reporter.. ask him.. which college?

we can go there and sekolah kan  the entire college to use OSS..

(how about that.. ask the same reporter to write it one more time.. but this
time the title below)

YOUR FREE LICENSE AGENT JUST AROUND THE CORNER... choose us.. muahahaha
...
To follow the path, look to the master,
follow the master, walk with the master,
see through the master, become the master.

Selasih Net Enterprise
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Sent from Petaling Jaya, Malaysia


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com wrote:


 hi,

 agree with red1, such news is great promoter of FOSS.

 suggestion: we collect all such news into a page of links to use as
 reference material.
 Could we also approach Min of Trade, to give us info on the 'cases'
 that they have already 'summoned'. This will be useful statitics.

 If we can work with Min of Trade, we dont need advert in paper!
 We just need them to make a statement everytime they are in the news:

This could have been avoided if they have used FOSS

 Perhaps Min of Trade can be our promoters ;-)


 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:45 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote:
 
  sweemeng ng wrote:
  How much to pay for an adverts on paper
 
  advert for what? U mean on that issue? It will be costly. So to fight
  for newshare we need to harp on newsworthy stuff. Responding to that
  news is one way. Making some 'flare' news is another. That is why i
  propose to issue headlines 4 billion loss via software licensing as a
  eye-catcher.
 
  Every week there is bound to be newsworthy stuff relevant to our cause.
  The one here in BH caught by Hafiz is a good example. I think catching
  such news can be a collective and effective work because we got lots of
  eyeballs that combs the press and online stuff. Remember, one news item
  goes a long way as it can be read by thousands. See my goat? It is now
  in german.
 
  red1
 
  
 



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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
wah whoever reported it would have made a cool rm30k ;-) lumayan tu ..

boleh tambah lagi satu artikel - panduan membuat duit dgn komputer

pura2 ambil kursus kat kolej2 ni, kemudian kalau ada software haram laporkan
kepada bsa. boleh lah dapat rm30k. kalau setiap 3 bulan dapat 1, lepas
setahun boleh beli rumah cash atau lepas 2 tahun boleh beli brand new audi
a4 cash. cool berlambak company / organisations yg tawarkan kursus
komputer

lebih kurang macam role the mystery shopper

even company msc pun dah pernah kena tangkap guna software haram.




On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote:

 can we email that reporter.. ask him.. which college?

 we can go there and sekolah kan  the entire college to use OSS..

 (how about that.. ask the same reporter to write it one more time.. but
 this time the title below)

 YOUR FREE LICENSE AGENT JUST AROUND THE CORNER... choose us.. muahahaha
 ...
 To follow the path, look to the master,
 follow the master, walk with the master,
 see through the master, become the master.

 Selasih Net Enterprise
 we never sleep, we just park our head


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik aziman noor
Aku macam kenal jerk IPTS tuh... satu-satunya IPTS kat KOta Kemuning...
heheh.
Xper lepas nih aku gi approach itu IPTS.

thanks.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah rajaiskand...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 wah whoever reported it would have made a cool rm30k ;-) lumayan tu ..

 boleh tambah lagi satu artikel - panduan membuat duit dgn komputer

 pura2 ambil kursus kat kolej2 ni, kemudian kalau ada software haram
 laporkan kepada bsa. boleh lah dapat rm30k. kalau setiap 3 bulan dapat 1,
 lepas setahun boleh beli rumah cash atau lepas 2 tahun boleh beli brand new
 audi a4 cash. cool berlambak company / organisations yg tawarkan kursus
 komputer

 lebih kurang macam role the mystery shopper

 even company msc pun dah pernah kena tangkap guna software haram.




 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote:

 can we email that reporter.. ask him.. which college?

 we can go there and sekolah kan  the entire college to use OSS..

 (how about that.. ask the same reporter to write it one more time.. but
 this time the title below)

 YOUR FREE LICENSE AGENT JUST AROUND THE CORNER... choose us.. muahahaha
 ...
 To follow the path, look to the master,
 follow the master, walk with the master,
 see through the master, become the master.

 Selasih Net Enterprise
 we never sleep, we just park our head


 Sent from Petaling Jaya, Malaysia




 


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[osdcmy-public] Re: Masa untuk kita 'beroperasi'!

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Mohd Fadzil Md Arap
kalau report dapat RM30k bute2 ke ? wow ...

Duit tuh leh masuk dana OSS and contribute back to community ...
muahahahahah

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM, aziman noor azi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aku macam kenal jerk IPTS tuh... satu-satunya IPTS kat KOta Kemuning...
 heheh.
 Xper lepas nih aku gi approach itu IPTS.

 thanks.


 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
 rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote:

 wah whoever reported it would have made a cool rm30k ;-) lumayan tu ..

 boleh tambah lagi satu artikel - panduan membuat duit dgn komputer

 pura2 ambil kursus kat kolej2 ni, kemudian kalau ada software haram
 laporkan kepada bsa. boleh lah dapat rm30k. kalau setiap 3 bulan dapat 1,
 lepas setahun boleh beli rumah cash atau lepas 2 tahun boleh beli brand new
 audi a4 cash. cool berlambak company / organisations yg tawarkan kursus
 komputer

 lebih kurang macam role the mystery shopper

 even company msc pun dah pernah kena tangkap guna software haram.




 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Mohd Hidzuan hidz...@gmail.com wrote:

 can we email that reporter.. ask him.. which college?

 we can go there and sekolah kan  the entire college to use OSS..

 (how about that.. ask the same reporter to write it one more time.. but
 this time the title below)

 YOUR FREE LICENSE AGENT JUST AROUND THE CORNER... choose us.. muahahaha
 ...
 To follow the path, look to the master,
 follow the master, walk with the master,
 see through the master, become the master.

 Selasih Net Enterprise
 we never sleep, we just park our head


 Sent from Petaling Jaya, Malaysia







 


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