subject:"Re\: \[osdcmy\] Top10 LPI Trainers Project"

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-31 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi,

I agree with Eric, let's not fall into the trap of 'big brother' as
Malaysia has a tendency to do... ban this, ban that...


FYI just on today's news, Perak mufti made an annoucement to ban the
'poco-poco' dance...! Never heard of it, but I'm sure 'intelligent'
members of the public should know what is good/bad for them.


As members of the community, we would know who is involved and
contributes, and who doesn't. Naturally, we prefer to work with each
other (those who do contribute). So ppl like that company, either
learn to contribute or they will get isolated anyway.

The other more constructive thing to do, is to cooperate/collaborate
and come up with a better LPI Training organisation. This then sets
the standards and others, if they want to compete, will also have to
raise their standards. And if those standards include contributing
back to the community, then they will have to follow also. This way we
see a general rise of standards and practices that benefit the
community.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Well it seems the company has its direction wrong.
>
> Nobody will fall for a "Flash"-y site anymore. If any, most of us,
> with the exception for Youtube couldn't care less for flash.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  wrote:
>> unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
>> touche :p
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a
>>> website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> > hi Eric and all,
>>> >
>>> > noted; I got the IBM link from this page:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams
>>> >
>>> > and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
>>> > dated Aug 2009.
>>> >
>>> > I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
>>> > in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
>>> > see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
>>> > showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
>>> > it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
>>> > Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!
>>> >
>>> > BTW who are these guys?
>>> >    http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds
>>> >
>>> > I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
>>> > themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
>>> > Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick
>>> > buck?
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >> Boh,
>>> >>
>>> >> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
>>> >> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
>>> >> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
>>> >> applicable to moat distros.
>>> >>
>>> >> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
>>> >> concise one.
>>> >>
>>> >> Eric
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> >>> Eric,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
>>> >>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
>>> >>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
>>> >>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>> >>>  wrote:
>>>  Boh,
>>> 
>>>  LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>>> 
>>>  But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>>>  only appreciate vendor certifications.
>>> 
>>>  Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> > hi all,
>>> >
>>> > perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
>>> > across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
>>> > interesting and different.
>>> >
>>> > if you go to LPI:
>>> >    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>>> >    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>>> >
>>> > It will explain it.
>>> >
>>> > From what I interprete... as stated:
>>> >
>>> > "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation.
>>> > We
>>> > encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
>>> > within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and
>>> > innovation"
>>> >
>>> > Think of it as Open Source Training, where the tra

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-31 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

Well it seems the company has its direction wrong.

Nobody will fall for a "Flash"-y site anymore. If any, most of us,
with the exception for Youtube couldn't care less for flash.

Eric


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
 wrote:
> unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
> touche :p
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
>>
>> Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a
>> website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi Eric and all,
>> >
>> > noted; I got the IBM link from this page:
>> >
>> > http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams
>> >
>> > and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
>> > dated Aug 2009.
>> >
>> > I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
>> > in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
>> > see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
>> > showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
>> > it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
>> > Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!
>> >
>> > BTW who are these guys?
>> >    http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds
>> >
>> > I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
>> > themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
>> > Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick
>> > buck?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Boh,
>> >>
>> >> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
>> >> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
>> >> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
>> >> applicable to moat distros.
>> >>
>> >> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
>> >> concise one.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> >>> Eric,
>> >>>
>> >>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>> >>>
>> >>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
>> >>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
>> >>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
>> >>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> >>>  wrote:
>>  Boh,
>> 
>>  LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>> 
>>  But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>>  only appreciate vendor certifications.
>> 
>>  Eric
>> 
>> 
>>  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi all,
>> >
>> > perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
>> > across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
>> > interesting and different.
>> >
>> > if you go to LPI:
>> >    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>> >    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>> >
>> > It will explain it.
>> >
>> > From what I interprete... as stated:
>> >
>> > "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation.
>> > We
>> > encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
>> > within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and
>> > innovation"
>> >
>> > Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
>> > developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
>> > back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own'
>> > the
>> > course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
>> > developed it.
>> >
>> > Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also
>> > the
>> > 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
>> > evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>> >
>> > If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as
>> > stated:
>> >
>> > "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
>> > others and train by them self and share with others how to become
>> > the
>> > trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>> >
>> > However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
>> > have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI
>> > is
>> > recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?)
>> > Will
>> > Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>> >
>> > I think this concept is v

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-31 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

That is not right. Red Hat and SUSE also doesn't put the community,
but customers first. Should we ban them? Same does Canonical. These
three companies are there to make money. Their community projects,
Fedora, openSUSE and Ubuntu, respectively put the community first.


Eric

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:09 AM, riZer Enterprise
 wrote:
> saya mencadangkan banned kan je sesaper yang tak nak letak komuniti dulu
> dalam agenda dia
>
> bro
>
> 2011/3/31 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google
>>> Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de.
>>
>> whois domain tu la..kalau orang tau :p
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>>  wrote:
>>> > unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
>>> > touche :p
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-31 Terurut Topik riZer Enterprise

why not start reading guys
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5014951

azhar

2011/4/1 riZer Enterprise 

> saya mencadangkan banned kan je sesaper yang tak nak letak komuniti dulu
> dalam agenda dia
>
> bro
>
>
> 2011/3/31 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google
>>> Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de.
>>>
>>
>> whois domain tu la..kalau orang tau :p
>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>>  wrote:
>>> > unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
>>> > touche :p
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-31 Terurut Topik riZer Enterprise

saya mencadangkan banned kan je sesaper yang tak nak letak komuniti dulu
dalam agenda dia

bro

2011/3/31 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 

> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google
>> Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de.
>>
>
> whois domain tu la..kalau orang tau :p
>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>>  wrote:
>> > unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
>> > touche :p
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google
> Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de.
>

whois domain tu la..kalau orang tau :p

>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  wrote:
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> > touche :p
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel

Thats website is not informative enough. Membazir aje bayar Google
Adwords. Who to contact what to do next tak de.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini

unfortunately I got friends working with asiatalk..
touche :p

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a
> website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> > hi Eric and all,
> >
> > noted; I got the IBM link from this page:
> >
> http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams
> >
> > and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
> > dated Aug 2009.
> >
> > I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
> > in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
> > see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
> > showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
> > it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
> > Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!
> >
> > BTW who are these guys?
> >http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds
> >
> > I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
> > themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
> > Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick
> buck?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >  wrote:
> >> Boh,
> >>
> >> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
> >> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
> >> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
> >> applicable to moat distros.
> >>
> >> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
> >> concise one.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
> >>> Eric,
> >>>
> >>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
> >>>
> >>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
> >>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
> >>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
> >>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
> >>>
> >>>
> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >>>  wrote:
>  Boh,
> 
>  LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
> 
>  But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>  only appreciate vendor certifications.
> 
>  Eric
> 
> 
>  On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
> > across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
> > interesting and different.
> >
> > if you go to LPI:
> >http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
> >http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
> >
> > It will explain it.
> >
> > From what I interprete... as stated:
> >
> > "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
> > encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
> > within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
> >
> > Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
> > developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
> > back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own'
> the
> > course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
> > developed it.
> >
> > Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also
> the
> > 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
> > evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
> >
> > If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as
> stated:
> >
> > "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
> > others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
> > trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
> >
> > However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
> > have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI
> is
> > recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?)
> Will
> > Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
> >
> > I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
> > the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
> > to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
> > have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
> > those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
> >
> > The first way will create skillful and capable students

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

Don't know who is behind Asiatalk. It speaks volumes when you get to a
website that is fluffed by Flash and nothing else.

Eric

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> hi Eric and all,
>
> noted; I got the IBM link from this page:
>   
> http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams
>
> and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
> dated Aug 2009.
>
> I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
> in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
> see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
> showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
> it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
> Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!
>
> BTW who are these guys?
>    http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds
>
> I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
> themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
> Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick buck?
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
>> Boh,
>>
>> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
>> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
>> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
>> applicable to moat distros.
>>
>> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
>> concise one.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>>>
>>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
>>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
>>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
>>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>>>
>>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>>  wrote:
 Boh,

 LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.

 But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
 only appreciate vendor certifications.

 Eric


 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> hi all,
>
> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
> interesting and different.
>
> if you go to LPI:
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>
> It will explain it.
>
> From what I interprete... as stated:
>
> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>
> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
> developed it.
>
> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>
> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>
> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>
> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>
> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>
> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>
> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>
> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
> I hope the selection is done with care...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>> Its will not limited t

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi Eric and all,

noted; I got the IBM link from this page:

http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1/study_materials/new_exam_preparation_resources_for_revised_lpic_exams

and it says the materials may be updated. The doc on the link was was
dated Aug 2009.

I followed and clicked the various links, most of the others are not
in English, or require you to pay/sign-up for a course before you can
see the syllabus (I did not try very hard to search..). The IBM site
showed that info quite clearly, so that's how I ended up there. I put
it on this list for those who want to see what the syllabus is like.
Its pretty comprehensive, and I may not be able to pass this!

BTW who are these guys?
http://lpi.asiatalk.com.my   <-- from GoogleAds

I went to their website, they talk about LPI but nothing about
themselves .., who are the trainers, their background, ...
Are they part of any FLOSS community, or someone out to make a quick buck?

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Boh,
>
> The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
> developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
> & Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
> applicable to moat distros.
>
> As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
> concise one.
>
> Eric
>
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> Eric,
>>
>> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>>
>> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
>> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
>> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
>> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>>
>> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>  wrote:
>>> Boh,
>>>
>>> LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>>>
>>> But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>>> only appreciate vendor certifications.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
 hi all,

 perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
 across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
 interesting and different.

 if you go to LPI:
    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1

 It will explain it.

 From what I interprete... as stated:

 "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
 encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
 within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"

 Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
 developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
 back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
 course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
 developed it.

 Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
 evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.

 If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:

 "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
 others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
 trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."

 However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
 have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
 recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
 Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?

 I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
 the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
 to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
 have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
 those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!

 The first way will create skillful and capable students.

 The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
 but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.

 I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
 I hope the selection is done with care...

 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
  wrote:
> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek 
>> untuk
>> pemil

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

Boh,

The one at the IBM site me thinks is the old syllabus. LPI is
developed by a consortium of vendors including people like Novell, IBM
& Red Hat. The certification program itself is considered neutral and
applicable to moat distros.

As for the syllabus always check the LPI site for the latest and moat
concise one.

Eric

On Wednesday, March 30, 2011, Boh Yap  wrote:
> Eric,
>
> so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...
>
> FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
> Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
> make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
> whom I believe IBM also offers...
>
> http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
>> Boh,
>>
>> LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>>
>> But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
>> only appreciate vendor certifications.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> hi all,
>>>
>>> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
>>> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
>>> interesting and different.
>>>
>>> if you go to LPI:
>>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>>>
>>> It will explain it.
>>>
>>> From what I interprete... as stated:
>>>
>>> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
>>> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
>>> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>>>
>>> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
>>> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
>>> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
>>> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
>>> developed it.
>>>
>>> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
>>> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
>>> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>>>
>>> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>>>
>>> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
>>> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
>>> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>>>
>>> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
>>> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
>>> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
>>> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>>>
>>> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
>>> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
>>> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
>>> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
>>> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>>>
>>> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>>>
>>> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
>>> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>>>
>>> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
>>> I hope the selection is done with care...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>>  wrote:
 Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
 trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
 to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.

 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek 
> untuk
> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
> Good luck!

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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>

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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi Mohd Fadzil,

thnk you for yr comment, I wld like to be involved but I'm afraid I
may not have so much time to commit. Although I have done my fair
share of Linux installs and SysAdmin, and am setting up a 1U Debian
box to be a production server now (4core CPU, RAID, LVM...), my
primary interst is more on SW development and programming and I would
like to be involved more in the training of programmers and SW
development, especially in Python and applying Python in Web
Development.

It is also good to hear that MOHE is involved, and hopefully it will
change the way our Edu system to produces better quality
graduates/professionals. (and I have ranted on this..)

PS
I have applied as I would like to contribue, but as I said in my
application, pls give my place up if there are better candidates.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran  wrote:
> Thanks Boh Yap,
>
> Indeed this is a good explanation about LPI I do agree your statement you 
> should apply this project too. Your spirit might help others trainer  to 
> understand more on how to be good trainer and understand on the concept.
>
> I do get private email from many others expert regarding LPI and they want to 
> share and develop LPI syllabus for Malaysia and will standardise material.
>
> We want create more skill people not just only in paper. LPI are already get 
> support by MOHE, Our job now is think how to collaborate with our academia to 
> adopt LPI and others OSS syllabus so maybe help our student be more skill and 
> can challenge our IT industry requirement. It a long way to achieve that 
> something need to be done 1st because after this BSDA, RHA n NLC will follow.
>
> We need more information, Knowledge and experience people to share what their 
> got and share with us. It not simple as nut but should take action rather 
> nothing.
>
> For the selection we will do with official LPI staff and we will discuss how 
> we want produce skillful and creative trainers and hope we can get the 1st 
> batch Top10 LPI Trainers.
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Boh Yap 
> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:26:15
> To: 
> Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
>
> hi all,
>
> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
> interesting and different.
>
> if you go to LPI:
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>
> It will explain it.
>
> From what I interprete... as stated:
>
> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>
> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
> developed it.
>
> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>
> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>
> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>
> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>
> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>
> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>
> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>
> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
> I hope the selection is done with care...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
&g

Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Hasanuddin Abu Bakar

Ya. Aku dah email dalam milist ni tgh cari 2 orang certified LPI dan 1
orang expert moodle untuk 1 tender MOE. LMS untuk pioneer 70 buah
sekolah. Dalam tender dah tercatat nak certified LPI dan bukan rhce
atau lain2.


Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Mar 2011, at 19:54, "Mohd Fazli Azran"  wrote:

> Thanks Boh Yap,
>
> Indeed this is a good explanation about LPI I do agree your statement you 
> should apply this project too. Your spirit might help others trainer  to 
> understand more on how to be good trainer and understand on the concept.
>
> I do get private email from many others expert regarding LPI and they want to 
> share and develop LPI syllabus for Malaysia and will standardise material.
>
> We want create more skill people not just only in paper. LPI are already get 
> support by MOHE, Our job now is think how to collaborate with our academia to 
> adopt LPI and others OSS syllabus so maybe help our student be more skill and 
> can challenge our IT industry requirement. It a long way to achieve that 
> something need to be done 1st because after this BSDA, RHA n NLC will follow.
>
> We need more information, Knowledge and experience people to share what their 
> got and share with us. It not simple as nut but should take action rather 
> nothing.
>
> For the selection we will do with official LPI staff and we will discuss how 
> we want produce skillful and creative trainers and hope we can get the 1st 
> batch Top10 LPI Trainers.
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Boh Yap 
> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:26:15
> To: 
> Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
>
> hi all,
>
> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
> interesting and different.
>
> if you go to LPI:
>http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>
> It will explain it.
>
> From what I interprete... as stated:
>
> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>
> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
> developed it.
>
> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>
> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>
> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>
> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>
> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>
> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>
> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>
> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
> I hope the selection is done with care...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
>> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
>> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
>>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
>>> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
>>> Good luck!
>>
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group 
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran

Thanks Boh Yap,

Indeed this is a good explanation about LPI I do agree your statement you 
should apply this project too. Your spirit might help others trainer  to 
understand more on how to be good trainer and understand on the concept.

I do get private email from many others expert regarding LPI and they want to 
share and develop LPI syllabus for Malaysia and will standardise material. 

We want create more skill people not just only in paper. LPI are already get 
support by MOHE, Our job now is think how to collaborate with our academia to 
adopt LPI and others OSS syllabus so maybe help our student be more skill and 
can challenge our IT industry requirement. It a long way to achieve that 
something need to be done 1st because after this BSDA, RHA n NLC will follow. 

We need more information, Knowledge and experience people to share what their 
got and share with us. It not simple as nut but should take action rather 
nothing.

For the selection we will do with official LPI staff and we will discuss how we 
want produce skillful and creative trainers and hope we can get the 1st batch 
Top10 LPI Trainers. 

Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon

-Original Message-
From: Boh Yap 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:26:15 
To: 
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

hi all,

perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
interesting and different.

if you go to LPI:
http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1

It will explain it.

>From what I interprete... as stated:

"...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"

Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
developed it.

Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.

If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:

"After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."

However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?

I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!

The first way will create skillful and capable students.

The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.

I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
I hope the selection is done with care...

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
>> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
>> Good luck!
>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

Eric,

so does that mean they don't recognize LPI? If so too bad...

FYI, I managed to track down a sort of syllabus, this is from IBM
Developer Works, and yes IBM recognises and supports LPI, does that
make it a 'vendor certification' ? Its no different from Red Hat's
whom I believe IBM also offers...

http://public.dhe.ibm.com/software/dw/linux/l-lpic1-v3-map/l-lpic1-v3-map-pdf.pdf


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Boh,
>
> LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.
>
> But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
> only appreciate vendor certifications.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
>> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
>> interesting and different.
>>
>> if you go to LPI:
>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>>
>> It will explain it.
>>
>> From what I interprete... as stated:
>>
>> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
>> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
>> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>>
>> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
>> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
>> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
>> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
>> developed it.
>>
>> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
>> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
>> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>>
>> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>>
>> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
>> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
>> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>>
>> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
>> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
>> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
>> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>>
>> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
>> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
>> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
>> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
>> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>>
>> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>>
>> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
>> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>>
>> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
>> I hope the selection is done with care...
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>>  wrote:
>>> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
>>> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
>>> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
 Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
 pemilihan 10 orang tu.
 Good luck!
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte

Boh,

LPI is part of their Core Competency programme.

But since the Govt is too used to the "vendor" system, they tend to
only appreciate vendor certifications.

Eric


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> hi all,
>
> perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
> across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
> interesting and different.
>
> if you go to LPI:
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
>    http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1
>
> It will explain it.
>
> From what I interprete... as stated:
>
> "...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
> encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
> within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"
>
> Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
> developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
> back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
> course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
> developed it.
>
> Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
> 'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
> evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.
>
> If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:
>
> "After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
> others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
> trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."
>
> However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
> have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
> recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
> Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?
>
> I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
> the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
> to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
> have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
> those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!
>
> The first way will create skillful and capable students.
>
> The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
> but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.
>
> I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
> I hope the selection is done with care...
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
>> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
>> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
>>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
>>> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
>>> Good luck!
>>
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>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-30 Terurut Topik Boh Yap

hi all,

perhaps there should be a bit more information about LPI I came
across them a few years back, and thought their concept was very
interesting and different.

if you go to LPI:
http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi
http://www.lpi.org/eng/training__1

It will explain it.

>From what I interprete... as stated:

"...does not have an "official" single method of test preparation. We
encourage publishers, schools and training centers to work together
within the community to encourage choice, flexibility and innovation"

Think of it as Open Source Training, where the training methods are
developed as with OSS, by sharing and cooperating, and contributing
back to the central core of training materials. LPI does not 'own' the
course materials, you are free to shared it, adapt it and jointly
developed it.

Hence as 'trainers' you are not only the teacher, but you are also the
'creator' and innovator of the teaching methods. They are also
evangelists and advocates to promote the use of Linux.

If you look at it this way, then you will understand the needs as stated:

"After the selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each
others and train by them self and share with others how to become the
trainers. The topic will be discuss are:..."

However, standards will have to be maintained, and I think LPI will
have standards for syllabus and certification requirements. And LPI is
recognised by vendors like IBM, Fujitsu... (I don't see any gov?) Will
Malaysia gov. recognise LPI?

I think this concept is very interesting and radical but to succeed,
the trainers have to have a very "Open Source mindset", ie: they have
to want to explore, learn, solve problems and then share what they
have learnt. Our standard type of  Malaysian teachers will not work,
those who give you lots of homework and tips on how to pass exams!

The first way will create skillful and capable students.

The std. Malaysian way will produce students who score highly in exam,
but have little skills and won't know how to solve problems.

I hope we don't go down the 1st path... but a lot depends on the trainees!
I hope the selection is done with care...

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
> Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
> trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
> to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
>> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
>> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
>> Good luck!
>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-29 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel

Its will not limited to 10 persons. After this first batch, we will
trained more. Lets us make sure this batch success and then expand it
to others. Top20 Top50 maybe.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:17 PM,   wrote:
> Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk
> pemilihan 10 orang tu.
> Good luck!

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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-29 Terurut Topik tajul

Pendapat saya, anda boleh memohon. Nanti dia akan buat senarai pendek untuk 
pemilihan 10 orang tu.
Good luck!
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-Original Message-
From: hadri hilmi 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:15:07 
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Subject: Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

wlapun x de cert + noob ble apply jgk ke? ak mcm berminat.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Abdul `Azim Norazmi
wrote:

> Dah apply. Harap berjaya :-). Macam best je dapat jadi trainer ni.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Din Mujahideen 
> wrote:
>
>> eden pun samo macam encik soire meira jugak.
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/28 Soire Meira 
>>
>>> tringin jgk.. tp xreti apa2.. sy mntak jd last choice la.. klu xde org br
>>> bg sy pluang tu ye,, klu ada xpe.. berikan diorg keutamaan.. hehehe..
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/3/28 Mohd Fazli Azran 
>>>
>>>> Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
>>>>
>>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>>> --
>>>> *From: * Ahmad Arafat Abdullah 
>>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Date: *Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:11:00 +0800
>>>> *To: *
>>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
>>>>
>>>> aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Garfield WTF wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I already submitted the form.
>>>>> Hopefully will get selected.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *GarfieldWTF <http://garfield.in/>*
>>>>> Debian User Community (Malaysia)
>>>>> *http://debmal.my*
>>>>> -
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>>>> bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
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>>> version on Linux)
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>>> Testing)
>>> Mauiware.AYU.0.6 <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Virus Cleanner & Get Back
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-29 Terurut Topik hadri hilmi

wlapun x de cert + noob ble apply jgk ke? ak mcm berminat.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Abdul `Azim Norazmi
wrote:

> Dah apply. Harap berjaya :-). Macam best je dapat jadi trainer ni.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Din Mujahideen 
> wrote:
>
>> eden pun samo macam encik soire meira jugak.
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/28 Soire Meira 
>>
>>> tringin jgk.. tp xreti apa2.. sy mntak jd last choice la.. klu xde org br
>>> bg sy pluang tu ye,, klu ada xpe.. berikan diorg keutamaan.. hehehe..
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/3/28 Mohd Fazli Azran 
>>>
>>>> Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
>>>>
>>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>>> --
>>>> *From: * Ahmad Arafat Abdullah 
>>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Date: *Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:11:00 +0800
>>>> *To: *
>>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
>>>>
>>>> aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Garfield WTF wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I already submitted the form.
>>>>> Hopefully will get selected.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *GarfieldWTF <http://garfield.in/>*
>>>>> Debian User Community (Malaysia)
>>>>> *http://debmal.my*
>>>>> -
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>>>> bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
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>>> Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 
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>>> Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) <https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc>
>>> Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)<http://www.asmawioffice.tk/>
>>> Soire TV & Radio <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Windows Only - continue
>>> version on Linux)
>>> BrutuSamaDia <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Remote Desktop Penetration
>>> Testing)
>>> Mauiware.AYU.0.6 <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Virus Cleanner & Get Back
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-29 Terurut Topik Abdul `Azim Norazmi

Dah apply. Harap berjaya :-). Macam best je dapat jadi trainer ni.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Din Mujahideen wrote:

> eden pun samo macam encik soire meira jugak.
>
>
> 2011/3/28 Soire Meira 
>
>> tringin jgk.. tp xreti apa2.. sy mntak jd last choice la.. klu xde org br
>> bg sy pluang tu ye,, klu ada xpe.. berikan diorg keutamaan.. hehehe..
>>
>>
>> 2011/3/28 Mohd Fazli Azran 
>>
>>> Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
>>>
>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
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>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:11:00 +0800
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project
>>>
>>> aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Garfield WTF wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already submitted the form.
>>>> Hopefully will get selected.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *GarfieldWTF <http://garfield.in/>*
>>>> Debian User Community (Malaysia)
>>>> *http://debmal.my*
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>>> bui...@b7.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/i386/201002061851Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-2-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
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>> Ch0kL@Thack 2002
>> PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000
>>
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>> http://www.sabily-my.tk
>>
>> Developer:
>> Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 
>> Al-Quds<http://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso>
>> Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) <https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc>
>> Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)<http://www.asmawioffice.tk/>
>> Soire TV & Radio <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Windows Only - continue
>> version on Linux)
>> BrutuSamaDia <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Remote Desktop Penetration
>> Testing)
>> Mauiware.AYU.0.6 <http://www.soire.webs.com/> (Virus Cleanner & Get Back
>> Hidden Files)
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-28 Terurut Topik Din Mujahideen

eden pun samo macam encik soire meira jugak.

2011/3/28 Soire Meira 

> tringin jgk.. tp xreti apa2.. sy mntak jd last choice la.. klu xde org br
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>
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> 2011/3/28 Mohd Fazli Azran 
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>> Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-28 Terurut Topik Soire Meira

tringin jgk.. tp xreti apa2.. sy mntak jd last choice la.. klu xde org br bg
sy pluang tu ye,, klu ada xpe.. berikan diorg keutamaan.. hehehe..

2011/3/28 Mohd Fazli Azran 

> Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
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>
> aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Garfield WTF  wrote:
>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-28 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran

Ini terbuka. Sesiapa pun boleh apply. Good Luck
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aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe





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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-28 Terurut Topik Ahmad Arafat Abdullah

aku boleh apply ka? ehehehe





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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-27 Terurut Topik Garfield WTF

I already submitted the form.
Hopefully will get selected.

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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-27 Terurut Topik darXness darXness

just try my luck.hehehhe

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mohd Hidzuan  wrote:
>>
>> Salam
>>
>> Kenapa ada ruang DETAILS? untuk apa tu? siap tulih Why? saya tidak faham
>> tuan.
>
>
> Details why your interest to join and be a trainers. Ini adalah key point
> untuk dan juga antara point yang digunakan untuk meyakinkan LPI yang anda
> layak menjadi Trainers. :P
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> 102D A12B F078 CF46 39A6 B276 7A01 9650 7FEA A5B1
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Top10 LPI Trainers is the Program for to train OSDCMY member to be LPI
>>> Trainer for the LPI Training. All the successful application will put at LPI
>>> database Trainers and will be official LPI Trainers for OSDCMY. The Goal
>>> Top10 LPI Trainers are the 1st phase project LPI program to make LPI
>>> certified trainers. This project are collaboration with LPI and OSDCMY to
>>> make LPI certified Trainers for Malaysia OSS Community How? After the
>>> selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by
>>> them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will
>>> be discuss are: 1) How to be good trainers 2) How to be good PR 3) LPI
>>> syllabus 4) Skill teaching 5) Motivation 6) Share experience All the modules
>>> & syllabus will provide by OSDCMY and all the Top10 Trainers need to be
>>> learn and share each others the resources. LPI will give special discount
>>> for the exam, what you need to do is just train you self and ready to be a
>>> trainers. All the application will sent to LPI and they will decide the
>>> approval. OSDCMY will co-ordinate the Trainers to be located to any Training
>>> Center, IPTA/IPTS and Government Training. The furthers discussion will be
>>> discuss on next meetup between OSDCMY & Top10 LPI Trainers. Please spread
>>> this information for who interest to be part of this special project by
>>> OSDCMY. Thanks Good Luck!
>>> Please register at here REGISTRATION
>>> Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Secretariat OSDCMY
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-27 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mohd Hidzuan  wrote:

> Salam
>
> Kenapa ada ruang DETAILS? untuk apa tu? siap tulih Why? saya tidak faham
> tuan.
>

Details why your interest to join and be a trainers. Ini adalah key point
untuk dan juga antara point yang digunakan untuk meyakinkan LPI yang anda
layak menjadi Trainers. :P


>
>
> -
> 102D A12B F078 CF46 39A6 B276 7A01 9650 7FEA A5B1
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Top10 LPI Trainers is the Program for to train OSDCMY member to be LPI
>> Trainer for the LPI Training. All the successful application will put at LPI
>> database Trainers and will be official LPI Trainers for OSDCMY. The Goal
>> Top10 LPI Trainers are the 1st phase project LPI program to make LPI
>> certified trainers. This project are collaboration with LPI and OSDCMY to
>> make LPI certified Trainers for Malaysia OSS Community How? After the
>> selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by
>> them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will
>> be discuss are: 1) How to be good trainers 2) How to be good PR 3) LPI
>> syllabus 4) Skill teaching 5) Motivation 6) Share experience All the modules
>> & syllabus will provide by OSDCMY and all the Top10 Trainers need to be
>> learn and share each others the resources. LPI will give special discount
>> for the exam, what you need to do is just train you self and ready to be a
>> trainers. All the application will sent to LPI and they will decide the
>> approval. OSDCMY will co-ordinate the Trainers to be located to any Training
>> Center, IPTA/IPTS and Government Training. The furthers discussion will be
>> discuss on next meetup between OSDCMY & Top10 LPI Trainers. Please spread
>> this information for who interest to be part of this special project by
>> OSDCMY. Thanks Good Luck!
>> Please register at here 
>> REGISTRATION
>>  Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Secretariat OSDCMY
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] Top10 LPI Trainers Project

2011-03-27 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan

Salam

Kenapa ada ruang DETAILS? untuk apa tu? siap tulih Why? saya tidak faham
tuan.



-
102D A12B F078 CF46 39A6 B276 7A01 9650 7FEA A5B1



On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Top10 LPI Trainers is the Program for to train OSDCMY member to be LPI
> Trainer for the LPI Training. All the successful application will put at LPI
> database Trainers and will be official LPI Trainers for OSDCMY. The Goal
> Top10 LPI Trainers are the 1st phase project LPI program to make LPI
> certified trainers. This project are collaboration with LPI and OSDCMY to
> make LPI certified Trainers for Malaysia OSS Community How? After the
> selection Top10 trainers the candidate will meetup each others and train by
> them self and share with others how to become the trainers. The topic will
> be discuss are: 1) How to be good trainers 2) How to be good PR 3) LPI
> syllabus 4) Skill teaching 5) Motivation 6) Share experience All the modules
> & syllabus will provide by OSDCMY and all the Top10 Trainers need to be
> learn and share each others the resources. LPI will give special discount
> for the exam, what you need to do is just train you self and ready to be a
> trainers. All the application will sent to LPI and they will decide the
> approval. OSDCMY will co-ordinate the Trainers to be located to any Training
> Center, IPTA/IPTS and Government Training. The furthers discussion will be
> discuss on next meetup between OSDCMY & Top10 LPI Trainers. Please spread
> this information for who interest to be part of this special project by
> OSDCMY. Thanks Good Luck!
> Please register at here 
> REGISTRATION
>  Regards, Mohd Fazli Azran Secretariat OSDCMY
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