Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
I've looked into using the 3dconnexion Space Navigator with OSG apps in the past. I was somewhat surprised to discover that 3dconnexion doesn't offer a consistent SDK API across all platforms -- the Mac SDK and Windows SDK have entirely different APIs, forcing the app to contain platform-specific code for interfacing with the device. I'm wondering how you addressed this issue? Thanks for any info, Paul Martz Skew Matrix Software LLC http://www.skew-matrix.com http://www.skew-matrix.com/ 303 859 9466 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dieter Pfeffer Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:48 AM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
(jumping in) agreed, and their api is way too invasive and bloated for my liking (COM, control panels, per-app settings, etc) and even with their api, you don't get full control of the LCD on the SpacePilot :-/ VRPN really helps w/ its crossplatform and consistent device model, and I am working on getting real control of the LCD (3Dx has been quite forthcoming w/ the lowlevel protocol details; just need some time to implement) cheers -- mew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:osg-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Martz Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:04 AM To: 'OpenSceneGraph Users' Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows I've looked into using the 3dconnexion Space Navigator with OSG apps in the past. I was somewhat surprised to discover that 3dconnexion doesn't offer a consistent SDK API across all platforms -- the Mac SDK and Windows SDK have entirely different APIs, forcing the app to contain platform-specific code for interfacing with the device. I'm wondering how you addressed this issue? Thanks for any info, Paul Martz Skew Matrix Software LLC http://www.skew-matrix.com http://www.skew-matrix.com/ 303 859 9466 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:osg- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dieter Pfeffer Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:48 AM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:osg-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Ciger Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:27 PM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows I wrote the Linux VRPN driver for the SpaceNavigator using the Linux input subsystem in probably one or two hours, without any vendor documentation or SDK. I can send you the Linux code for if you are interested. Hi, On linux, I assume you were using the standard HID messages via evdev? just curious -- mew ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Weiblen wrote: Hi, On linux, I assume you were using the standard HID messages via evdev? Yes, it reports the stick movement using EV_ABS events and button presses using EV_KEY events if you open it using /dev/input/eventXX device. This was with the SpaceNavigator SE. There is also an official driver for Linux, but that seems to be encumbered by a fairly restrictive license. Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0eX6n11XseNj94gRAmkbAKCj4yqDD4MH6xsUyxVaXnHXS89ujACgqimI dz6Jn7xP/KXc3aGnE/Z5IhY= =+AuI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
The point is that it is not obvious to me how you convert the rotation information from the 3Dconnexion driver into an osg rotation... Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi I don' t use a MatrixManipulator but would like to set the camera viewmatrix: viewer.getCamera()-setViewMatrix (vMatrix * osg::Matrix::rotate (-(osg::PI_2),1,0,0)); with tMatrix = rot * trans; vMatrix = tMatrix.inverse (tMatrix); Dieter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rémy Deslignes Sent: Tuesday, 04 March, 2008 11:02 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows I guess that this is deeply related to the MatrixManipulator you are using . What MM are you using ? Please also note that there is a setting in the 3D connexion driver to set the translation as dominant . Rémy Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org --- Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
I have used the 3dconnexion cityfly example (function: SbMotionEvent) - one try: eye_to_world matrix as vMatrix or: MatrixToHpr (rot, eye_to_world) //(extracting the rotation from the matrix) but this is not really osg; my idea was whether s.o. has implemented it in osg and could give me a hint how to get the rotation and set the viewmatrix Thanks Mike - I will have a look at osgVRPN Dieter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rémy Deslignes Sent: Wednesday, 05 March, 2008 10:40 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows The point is that it is not obvious to me how you convert the rotation information from the 3Dconnexion driver into an osg rotation... Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi I don' t use a MatrixManipulator but would like to set the camera viewmatrix: viewer.getCamera()-setViewMatrix (vMatrix * osg::Matrix::rotate (-(osg::PI_2),1,0,0)); with tMatrix = rot * trans; vMatrix = tMatrix.inverse (tMatrix); Dieter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rémy Deslignes Sent: Tuesday, 04 March, 2008 11:02 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows I guess that this is deeply related to the MatrixManipulator you are using . What MM are you using ? Please also note that there is a setting in the 3D connexion driver to set the translation as dominant . Rémy Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- - Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
[osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
I guess that this is deeply related to the MatrixManipulator you are using . What MM are you using ? Please also note that there is a setting in the 3D connexion driver to set the translation as dominant . Rémy Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
Hi I don' t use a MatrixManipulator but would like to set the camera viewmatrix: viewer.getCamera()-setViewMatrix (vMatrix * osg::Matrix::rotate (-(osg::PI_2),1,0,0)); with tMatrix = rot * trans; vMatrix = tMatrix.inverse (tMatrix); Dieter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rémy Deslignes Sent: Tuesday, 04 March, 2008 11:02 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows I guess that this is deeply related to the MatrixManipulator you are using . What MM are you using ? Please also note that there is a setting in the 3D connexion driver to set the translation as dominant . Rémy Dieter Pfeffer a écrit : Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Remy Deslignes Ingenieur Developement / Software Engineer Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.19 === Silicon Worlds S.A. 224, rue Saint Denis 75002 Paris France Tel: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.11 Fax: +33 (0)1.53.90.11.12 http://www.silicon-worlds.fr === ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows
Hi, FWIW 3Dconnexion devices are now supported by VRPN, and VRPN is integrated with OSG via osgVRPN, which is available at http://osgtoy.sourceforge.net/ osgVRPN supports attaching VRPN 6DOF devices to both transform matrices and camera manipulators, as demonstrated in the osgVRPNviewer example. You can it the nodekit directly, or mine it for functional code. cheers -- mew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:osg-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dieter Pfeffer Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:48 AM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: [osg-users] 3dconnexion for windows Hi has s.o. implemented the 3dconnexion input device and can give me a hint (or source) how to match it to the viewmatrix in osg. I have no problems in translation but I can't figure out how to set the corrrect rotation. If I use only heading it's correct but not heading and pitch together. Thanks Dieter Unclassified Mail ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
