Re: [osg-users] Proposal to change the way the Colladapluginhandlesthe DAE object

2007-11-25 Thread Robert Osfield
I have just unsubscribed the anonymous user osg_rocks that posted some
bile about MPI, this type of posting has no place on the osg-users
mailing list, and users posting similar content will be unsubscribed
straight away.
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Re: [osg-users] Proposal to change the way the Colladapluginhandlesthe DAE object

2007-11-24 Thread B B
So now with MPI dead, Collada is really the only way to go. I cant see a future 
for Openflight. As Paul Martz said about the acquisition of MPI How the mighty 
have fallen. Its great that the Openscenegraph community have contributed to 
this.
   
  Gordon was right after all and all the evil people in MPI management have 
been fired. They did get what was coming to them.
   
  Looks like our main competition is having a hard time. See thread below from 
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vis-sim.com  Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 16 Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:52 pm 
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Pixelpusher you are relying on MPI tools because you are probably forced to. \ 
Wouldnt you pick other tools if it were up to you ? Besides what do you 
disagree \ 
with that I have said or Urban Legend has said in his post about MPI becoming a 
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bit player and not being able to pay the big bill that is coming due soon and \ 
their awful business practices and arrogant management ? Back to top 
UrbanLegend \ 
User Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 988 Location: USA / UK Posted: Fri Mar 23,
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UrbanLegend User Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 945 Location: USA / UK Posted: Wed 
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Dec 27, 2006 1:57 pm Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:35 pm Post
 subject: Changes in the vis-sim industry \ 

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Lot of changes this year. Engenuity buying out Acusoft. MAk purchased by \ 
Singapore training, E amp; S bought by Rockwell, Parallax buying MPI. \ 
Wonder what 2007 is going to bring. Looks like E amp; S is doing pretty \ 
well under Rockwell. Speaking of MPI, the jungle drums inside MPI say that it \ 
was a pretty terrible year financially. Customers have sneered at the new \ 
products. That would mean more layoffs at MPI in January. The drums also say \ 
that Parallax is going to fire the CEO after the first of the year and talking 
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to Stephen Gersuk about running the company. These are interesting times. Back 
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to top UrbanLegend User Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 945 Location: USA / UK \ 
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Interesting view point, Stephen is one of the brightess and most intelligent \ 
person in the Vis-sim world , he must really be laughing out loud, I highly \ 
doubt that he would touch MPI with a barge pole apart, maybe to wave good 
bye... \ 
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a function of how quickly and intensely one can arouse one's instinct for \ 
survival - Master Tambo Tetsura Back to top simsim Guest Posted: Wed Dec \ 
27, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: \ 

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i worked at MPI at that time. My understanding was that Stephen was a victim of 
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devious underhanded scheming by the present CEO and was forced out. He was \ 
stabbed in the back by him. What a shame and what a loss to MPI. I
 left soon after since I did not agree with the lack of ethics of the 
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at MPI. Back to top simsim Guest Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: 
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You have a lot of experience in this industry UL, how long do you think MPI 
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survive ? Back to top UrbanLegend User Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 945 Location: 
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USA / UK Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: \ 

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How long is a piece of string ? I don't see a growth market for MPI , they can 
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probably survive in the shrinking market as bit player, with some enormous new 
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players in Modeling, survices and API market. We will see some very interesting 
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changes in the 2007-8 with some interesting and exciting
 productsand services coming to market from some very big companies I'm under \ 
NDA but can say that these companies have Billions in turn over and are 
spending \ 
like 20x MPI's turnover just in dev for tools that will impact the vis-sim \ 
market, this will effect most of the smaller vis-sim companies like MPI as they 
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will eat in to a market that is quickly running away from the old traditional 6 
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years to build a sim that is 10 years out of date Theres a whole slue of \ 
automatic feature extraction and automatic terrain generation and feature \ 
creation tools coming that will shrink the markets for products like Creator, \ 
CTS, Geo etc.. What I have seem behind closed doors make me glad I'm no longer 
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in such a small company like MPI Will MPI survive long term not without a lot 
of \ 
change IMO, they need some one at the top the commands repect work force and \ 
industry Also lets not for 

Re: [osg-users] Proposal to change the way the Colladapluginhandlesthe DAE object

2007-11-23 Thread Gordon Tomlinson
Doh Scene units was what I thought I was typing, just bad typing and
spelling ;) thanks for the tip on get units out, 
 
But I would argue that loader should have the option to scale the file to
the scene units if the format being loaded supports a unit size, its very
rare that you would have a scene in say meters and want a model created in
say milimeters to come in the size of a small country ;), 
 
Its sort of the same thing that we do in our with our imagery and elevation
software, you have a projection then we mosaic or re-project every thing
passed to the required projection no matter what the source projection is of
each component..
 
 
BTW I not i'm not suggesting you to do this, just that for me and my 20k+
users this would be a good thing some time down the road, 
 
 
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Gordon

 

I don't quite know what you mean by screen units, I suspect it is something
like the same units as the rest of the scene graph. I think this function
is best done outside the plugin. In the current SVN you can do this using
the DAE object and document name returned by the plugin.

 

You need to get hold of the correct domCOLLADA object and then call getAsset
on it to get hold of the domAsset object and then call getUnit in that to
get the information you need.

 

If you do put any scaling transforms above the model then remember to
rescale the normals back to unity as well!

 

stateset-setMode(GL_NORMALIZE, StateAttribute::ON);

 

 

Roger

 

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Tomlinson
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Subject: Re: [osg-users] Proposal to change the way the Collada
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Need to add scaling the loaded model to correct screen units ;)  ( worth a
try ;) )

 

 

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