Re: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

In my opinion, holding space is ultimately a practice of learning how not
to hold space. In other words, the pinnacle of holding space is when the
facilitator's ego falls away, i.e., there is no longer an "I, me or my"
remaining to hold space. I find this "state" to be only permanently
accessible via dedicated spiritual practice, excepting very rare
circumstances.

I find this video, Upgrade your Mental Operating System
, useful in regards to
this topic.

Much love,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams 


On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 4:43 PM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I’ll offer my thoughts on this question through this link:
>
> http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-tao-of-holding-space/
>
> There you will find links to the Tao of Holding Space in English and
> Chinese.
>
> Chris
>
> On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two
> other emails:
>
> Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being “totally present and
> absolutely invisible”
>
> Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present, respectfully
> absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
>
> I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me
> to (once again) wonder:
>
> * What does holding space involve… *
> *for me?*
> *for you?*
>
> I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> With a little nudge into a new direction.
>
> Before…
>
>
> ***
>
>
> …a side note on conversations on this list:
>
> Part of my personal „Practice of Peace“ *(which is the name of the first
> book by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) *involves
> having as little „who is right -who is wrong“ conversations as possible. My
> preference is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that
> by the language I use.
>
> Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language
> . Which I understand as a way
> of speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment.
> I imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how
> something „is“ but just how it is „for me“. (For those interested in
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime
> .)
>
> Speaking not in „this is how it IS“ but in „this is what I PERCEIVE“ is so
> unusual in our cultural—hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this
> habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself
> hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
>
> The setup of OST doesn’t include „who is right - who is wrong?" Instead
> OST invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to
> them. Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
>
> If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through
> our individual lenses.
>
>
> ***
>
>
> Back to my invitation:
>
> This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
>
> * What does holding space involve... *for me personally*?
>
> Let’s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via music,
> painting or…
> And see what *wildly colourful picture* we can co-create!
> I’ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
> * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference)
> compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational transformation?
> If so, in which way?
>
> I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are into
> organisational transformation.
>
> ***
>
> And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who
>
> - think globally
> - see themselves as leaders of some kind
> - and appreciate a space for emergence:
>
> The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 /
> Oct 9...
> To whomever that is interesting, check it out here
> 
>
> Greetings,
> Marai
>
> Joyful Together
> Liberating Joy at Work
> phone: +49 171-810 7161
> *www.about.me* 
>
> Virtual: Join the monthly
> Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders
> 
> In person: Join the OLS in Berlin, Nov 18 - 20, 2019
> Open Leadership Symposium Berlin
> 
>
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Re: [OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 100, Issue 23

[Mark Carmel via OSList]

ine
> the standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has
> already articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized
> and stay organized until we get the job done?
> >
> > Respectfully submitted,
> > Mark Carmel
> >
> >
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0200
> From: Marai Kiele 
> To: ost list international 
> Subject: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge
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>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two
> other emails:
>
> Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being ?totally present and
> absolutely invisible?
>
> Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present,
> respectfully absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
>
> I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me
> to (once again) wonder:
>
> What does holding space involve?
>for me?
>for you?
>
> I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> With a little nudge into a new direction.
>
> Before?
>
>
> ***
>
>
> ?a side note on conversations on this list:
>
> Part of my personal ?Practice of Peace? (which is the name of the first
> book by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves
> having as little ?who is right -who is wrong? conversations as possible. My
> preference is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that
> by the language I use.
>
> Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language <
> https://liveconscious.com/about/respeak/>. Which I understand as a way of
> speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I
> imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how
> something ?is? but just how it is ?for me?. (For those interested in
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Prime>.)
>
> Speaking not in ?this is how it IS? but in ?this is what I PERCEIVE? is so
> unusual in our cultural?hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this
> habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself
> hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
>
> The setup of OST doesn?t include ?who is right - who is wrong?" Instead
> OST invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to
> them. Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
>
> If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through
> our individual lenses.
>
>
> ***
>
>
> Back to my invitation:
>
> This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
>
> * What does holding space involve... for me personally?
>
> Let?s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via
> music, painting or?
> And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
> I?ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
>
> * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference)
> compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational
> transformation?
> If so, in which way?
>
> I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are
> into organisational transformation.
>
> ***
>
> And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who
>
> - think globally
> - see themselves as leaders of some kind
> - and appreciate a space for emergence:
>
> The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 /
> Oct 9...
> To whomever that is interesting, check it out here <
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/global-oasis-for-emerging-leaders-tickets-58880372780
> >
>
> Greetings,
> Marai
>
> Joyful Together
> Liberating Joy at Work
> phone: +49 171-810 7161
> www.

Re: [OSList] Okay...Forget Certification then...How about Co-Creating a NEW OST ASSOCIATION? Such as...THE International Association for Peace and Human Understanding...?

[R Chaffe via OSList]

Chris,
I look forward to Mark’s reply to your question.  It seems to me that that the 
question mixes up the who and the what.  Mark uses a few examples including a 
mechanic, the first question I have is what experience the trade person has my 
second is an example of their work.  OST is at one level about the “how” the 
job is done and I think that is one level the question comes from.  Being able 
to Open Space and engage effectively with the sponsor and the community of 
concern is an other level again.

There is a level of trust between the sponsor and the facilitator that the 
result the sponsor wants will be delivered.  The sponsor might ask how did you 
do that? I suggest that they are more interested on what you as facilitator 
delivered based on the contract.

In many ways focusing on the how is counter productive the “what” is the thing 
that pays the bills and builds reputations.

If my thinking is correct the struggle is to define a professional facilitator 
who can deliver is the issue not what tools they use when it comes to a 
contract.

Regards
Rob

> On 20 Aug 2019, at 2:31 am, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whenever I want to know if my work of Hosting an Open Space Technology 
> meeting was useful, I give the participants a form that sinplay says 
> “complete the following sentence. As a result of this meeting...”
> 
> The only people who should be judging the efficacy of an OST meeting are the 
> people who called it in the first place to get their work done. In my 
> experience, they are happy if the meeting has helped them. 
> 
> My work is always directed towards client needs. Some times we do Open Space. 
> Sometimes we do it in a way that would drive a “by the book” person crazy. 
> But it’s about the clients. I doubt there is a way my process could be 
> formalized in a way that works better for my clients than sitting down and 
> listening to their needs. 
> 
> There is already a network of Open Space Institutes who steward this 
> practice. There is an international association of facilitators who can join 
> if you want certification. 
> 
> I find myself constantly wanting to defend this radical openness. Mark, what 
> is behind your string desire for something more formal than what we already 
> have?
> 
> Chris. 
> 
> 
> _
> CHRIS CORRIGAN
> www.chriscorrigan.com
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 1st of all thank you for everyone who gave me feedback on my big idea for 
>> certification. It was sincerely appreciated. However I can see it was 
>> something that did not  Resonate well.
>> 
>> Open space technology has clearly set the standard for the facilitation of 
>> peace and human understanding. It is such a powerful and simple tool but 
>> highly complex. As Harrison says..  chaos plows the fields of the mind so 
>> that new ideas can grow... I think there is ample chaos for us to tackle 
>> right now.
>> 
>> I think it is highly important for the leadership of our open space world to 
>> make a decision now while we still have Harrison among us as a living 
>> spirit. Because we have already set the standards why not cement the 
>> standards and turn it into an everlasting association that could be 
>> organized to deliver training, etc. To advance the mission of human peace 
>> and understanding in a more organized way?
>> 
>> If you want to be a beautician or a mechanic or a rocket scientist or a city 
>> manager there are associations for that .
>> 
>> Why not an association for open space technology practitioners to define the 
>> standards, the ethics, code of conduct, the way that Harrison has already 
>> articulated them, but to formalize them and help us get organized and stay 
>> organized until we get the job done?
>> 
>> Respectfully submitted,
>> Mark Carmel
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

I’ll offer my thoughts on this question through this link:

http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot/the-tao-of-holding-space/

There you will find links to the Tao of Holding Space in English and Chinese.

Chris

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 9:59 AM, Marai Kiele via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two 
> other emails:
> 
>   Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being “totally present and 
> absolutely invisible”
> 
>   Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present, respectfully 
> absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.
> 
> I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me to 
> (once again) wonder: 
> 
>   What does holding space involve… 
>  for me?
>  for you?
> 
> I invite an exploration of this question further down.
> With a little nudge into a new direction.
> 
> Before…
> 
> 
>   ***
> 
> 
> …a side note on conversations on this list:
> 
> Part of my personal „Practice of Peace“ (which is the name of the first book 
> by Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves having as 
> little „who is right -who is wrong“ conversations as possible. My preference 
> is exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that by the 
> language I use.
> 
> Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language 
> . Which I understand as a way of 
> speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I 
> imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how 
> something „is“ but just how it is „for me“. (For those interested in 
> exploring this take on language, also check out E-Prime 
> .) 
> 
> Speaking not in „this is how it IS“ but in „this is what I PERCEIVE“ is so 
> unusual in our cultural—hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this 
> habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself 
> hopeful with acknowledging my progress!
> 
> The setup of OST doesn’t include „who is right - who is wrong?" Instead OST 
> invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to them. 
> Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.
> 
> If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of 
> diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through our 
> individual lenses.
> 
> 
>   ***
> 
> 
> Back to my invitation:
> 
> This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
> So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:
> 
>   * What does holding space involve... for me personally?
> 
>   Let’s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via music, 
> painting or…
>   And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
>   I’ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)
>   
>   * Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a 
> 1-time-event (like an annual conference) 
>   compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational 
> transformation? 
>   If so, in which way?
> 
>   I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are into 
> organisational transformation.
> 
>   ***
> 
> And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who 
> 
>   - think globally
>   - see themselves as leaders of some kind
>   - and appreciate a space for emergence:
> 
> The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 / Oct 
> 9...
> To whomever that is interesting, check it out here 
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Marai
> 
> Joyful Together
> Liberating Joy at Work
> phone: +49 171-810 7161
> www.about.me 
> 
> Virtual: Join the monthly
> Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders 
> 
> In person: Join the OLS in Berlin, Nov 18 - 20, 2019
> Open Leadership Symposium Berlin 
> 
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[OSList] What does holding space involve - with a nudge

[Marai Kiele via OSList]

Greetings,

I open up a new thread and bring over here what was written before in two other 
emails:

Harrison Owen: Holding Space involves being “totally present and 
absolutely invisible”

Paul Levy: Holding Space involves being gently present, respectfully 
absent and conveniently and softly unnoticed.

I appreciate both descriptions and find them helpful and inspiring for me to 
(once again) wonder: 

What does holding space involve… 
   for me?
   for you?

I invite an exploration of this question further down.
With a little nudge into a new direction.

Before…


***


…a side note on conversations on this list:

Part of my personal „Practice of Peace“ (which is the name of the first book by 
Harrison I read and the one that impacted me the most) involves having as 
little „who is right -who is wrong“ conversations as possible. My preference is 
exploring, sharing, co-creating. I seek to contribute to that by the language I 
use.

Many summers ago, I learned about Percept Language 
. Which I understand as a way of 
speaking that acknowledges how we create our reality, moment to moment. I 
imagine that we all perceive differently, and I actually cannot say how 
something „is“ but just how it is „for me“. (For those interested in exploring 
this take on language, also check out E-Prime 
.) 

Speaking not in „this is how it IS“ but in „this is what I PERCEIVE“ is so 
unusual in our cultural—hardly anyone does it. I consciously practice this 
habit all the time, since 15 years, and I stumble daily. Yet I make myself 
hopeful with acknowledging my progress!

The setup of OST doesn’t include „who is right - who is wrong?" Instead OST 
invites people to post all the topics that are uniquely meaningful to them. 
Those which got stirred up in the context of an overall theme.

If I had it my way ;-) conversations on this list reflect that spirit of 
diversity and non-judgement. Of acknowledging how we all perceive through our 
individual lenses.


***


Back to my invitation:

This topic has been explored on this list before. Many times. I know.
So to make it fresh, I wanna give it two nudges:

* What does holding space involve... for me personally?

Let’s share in any way that suits us, be it words, poetic, via music, 
painting or…
And see what wildly colourful picture we can co-create!
I’ll also contemplate on this anew. Space is open... for you! :-)

* Do I make a difference between holding space for an OST as a 
1-time-event (like an annual conference) 
compared to an OST as part of a conscious organisational 
transformation? 
If so, in which way?

I imagine the latter can be of special interest to all who are into 
organisational transformation.

***

And before I close, here is an additional invitation for to those who 

- think globally
- see themselves as leaders of some kind
- and appreciate a space for emergence:

The Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders is coming up: August 26 / Sept 24 / Oct 
9...
To whomever that is interesting, check it out here 


Greetings,
Marai

Joyful Together
Liberating Joy at Work
phone: +49 171-810 7161
www.about.me 

Virtual: Join the monthly
Global Oasis for Emerging Leaders 

In person: Join the OLS in Berlin, Nov 18 - 20, 2019
Open Leadership Symposium Berlin 

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