[OSList] Open Space Hangout! Tuesday, April 28th 12 PM EDT :)

2020-04-27 Thread Tricia Chirumbole via OSList
Hello all!

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[OSList] REMINDER Tuesday at 11 AM, 4/28/2020

2020-04-27 Thread Tony Budak via OSList

***Hi There,* **
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Re: [OSList] Recording Zoom OST Sessions??

2020-04-27 Thread Marc C. Trudeau via OSList
Thanks, Chris and Michael!
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On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

I’ve never done an open space where every session was recorded. And not sure I 
ever would.

The proceedings are for me always meant to be doorways to the next 
conversation, not an invitation to the past. I invite everyone who could attend 
a session to contact the convener to see where things are now.

That’s my two cents.

Chris

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On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:


Recording the opening is an easy middle ground, Marc. Gives context for any 
notes captured. Doesn’t intrude. Doesn’t require special tech arrangements for 
recording breakouts. Participant names in breakout notes is always helpful, I 
think, if people capture them.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 17:39 Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Dear friends,

Hello again.

I’ve offered/sponsored a series of OSTs for my alma mater (students, staff, 
alums), themed, “How will we, the WPI community, support each other through 
this difficult time.” The second event is tomorrow night, and one person has 
reached out who can’t accommodate the schedule, asking if the event can be 
recorded. I’m inclined to say no, since proceedings will be available to the 
whole community, and I fear recording could tend to close the space (make 
people less open and fully themselves)

 Prior to answering him, I decided to ask for your help. Will you lend your 
advice?

Thanks again!

Marc
— — —
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LikeBreathin.com
mobile 774-641-8302

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[OSList] Your Invited to The Global Teach-In – Democratize the Crisis

2020-04-27 Thread Tony Budak via OSList
InLateMaytoMid-June2020,theGlobalTeach-InnetworkwillorganizeonetotwoGlobalTeach-Insonthetheme,#democratizethecrisis.By“democratizethecrisis”wemeanthatgreaterpublicinput 
anddirectivepowerintheformofknowledge,politicalengagementand/capacitiesdevelopment/canassistinprovidingtheacceleratedyetcomprehensiveresponsetothecrisis.By“capacitiesdevelopment”wemeanthattheindividualasworker,entrepreneur,banker,renter,consumer,user,voter,monitoretc.Wealsomeanreflectivedeliberationbythepubliconinformationnecessaryforguidingdemocraticpracticeandpracticalsolutions.Wewilllinkexperts,policymakers,activists 
and diverse constituencygroups 
inaglobaldiscussiononhowtoaddressfiveinterconnectedaspectsofthecoronaviruscrisis.Amulti-hourinteractivebroadcastwillshowhowhealth,environmental,labor,peaceandinnovationpoliciescanbelinkedonalocal,regional, 
nationalandglobal basis, departingfromfivekeythemes:


●First,*alternativelanduse,foodandfarmingpolicies*whichwouldhelplimitormitigatefutureviruscrises.Thebasicgoalistoreducetheerosionofnaturalenvironmentswhichproducegreaterexposuretowildanimalsthatareviruscarriers.

●Second,*conversionandinnovationpolicies***buildonadiversityofinnovationandproductionplatformswhichcanbe 
usedtodevelopproductslikedefensiveshields,facemasksandventilatorsoralternativeenergyandmasstransitalternativetofossilfueluse.Weneedapeacebudgettofundalternatives.


●Third,*alternativeplatformsforgovernmentaiddistribution*potentiallyinvolveemployeeandcommunityownershipaswellasothermeasuresincluding:nationalization,rentstrikes,communityfoodmobilizationandmortgagedeferments.

●Fourth,*“**socialforecasting,**”***atermthatcanbe usedtodescribe 
thenecessitytobridge 
specializedknowledgeaboutthreats(liketerrorism,climatechange,lifethreateningvirusesandthelike)toanetworkthatlinksdiverseandgeneralpublicstospecializedexpertise.


●Fifth,*thepermanentmobilizationofcitizensintheworkplace,politicalspacesandmedia*,creatingaglobalmedianetworkthatcansupportcitizenactionslikecooperatives,strikes,andacooperativemediaspace.

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Re: [OSList] Recording Zoom OST Sessions??

2020-04-27 Thread Chris Corrigan via OSList
I’ve never done an open space where every session was recorded. And not sure I 
ever would. 

The proceedings are for me always meant to be doorways to the next 
conversation, not an invitation to the past. I invite everyone who could attend 
a session to contact the convener to see where things are now. 

That’s my two cents. 

Chris 

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> On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Michael Herman via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Recording the opening is an easy middle ground, Marc. Gives context for any 
> notes captured. Doesn’t intrude. Doesn’t require special tech arrangements 
> for recording breakouts. Participant names in breakout notes is always 
> helpful, I think, if people capture them. 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 17:39 Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
>>  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>> 
>> Hello again.
>> 
>> I’ve offered/sponsored a series of OSTs for my alma mater (students, staff, 
>> alums), themed, “How will we, the WPI community, support each other through 
>> this difficult time.” The second event is tomorrow night, and one person has 
>> reached out who can’t accommodate the schedule, asking if the event can be 
>> recorded. I’m inclined to say no, since proceedings will be available to the 
>> whole community, and I fear recording could tend to close the space (make 
>> people less open and fully themselves)
>> 
>>  Prior to answering him, I decided to ask for your help. Will you lend your 
>> advice?
>> 
>> Thanks again!
>> 
>> Marc
>> — — —
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>> LikeBreathin.com
>> mobile 774-641-8302
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Re: [OSList] Recording Zoom OST Sessions??

2020-04-27 Thread Michael Herman via OSList
Recording the opening is an easy middle ground, Marc. Gives context for any
notes captured. Doesn’t intrude. Doesn’t require special tech arrangements
for recording breakouts. Participant names in breakout notes is always
helpful, I think, if people capture them.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 17:39 Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> Hello again.
>
> I’ve offered/sponsored a series of OSTs for my alma mater (students,
> staff, alums), themed, “How will we, the WPI community, support each other
> through this difficult time.” The second event is tomorrow night, and one
> person has reached out who can’t accommodate the schedule, asking if the
> event can be recorded. I’m inclined to say no, since proceedings will be
> available to the whole community, and I fear recording could tend to close
> the space (make people less open and fully themselves)
>
>  Prior to answering him, I decided to ask for your help. Will you lend
> your advice?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Marc
> — — —
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> LikeBreathin.com
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Re: [OSList] Bulletin Board vs. Marketplace

2020-04-27 Thread Jeff Aitken via OSList
Interesting exchange. I put a lot of attention on the spaces where
breakouts will happen, and the entire space of the event where butterflies
and bumblebees will do their thing. Like a "manager" of a village market
with its stalls and gathering spaces getting filled by vendors and visitors.

For me, the negotiations of time and space begin at the bulletin board, but
are enacted ongoingly in the open space. So I'm curious now about the
marketplace being considered as the shaping of the board (the menu) and
maybe less as the enacting of the space (the meal.)

Good learning always.

Jeff

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 6:01 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I am not sure if I got your point and:
>
>- For me the Bulletin Board is where people stick their ideas, and
>also select a time and place.
>- For me the Marketplace contains the Bulletin Board and is also where
>people discuss, start moving around, start discussing whether topics should
>be merged or not, where they start checking out what has been named
>already, etc.
>- So the Marketplace is the container that holds the space for all
>that happens including the Bulletin Board until people decide to go to
>sessions or somewhere else... and then the Marketplace remains open as
>people come and go until...
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 02:31, Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi, All! Hope you and yours are well and coping effectively with the
>> current crisis.
>>
>> I very much enjoyed Barry’s mantra in the opening circle at WOSonOS,
>> “Circle, Breath, Bulletin Board, Marketplace.” It led me to do some reading
>> about OST, and I noticed Bulletin Board and Marketplace broken out as
>> separate elements, but in every Open Space I’ve attended, they’re kind of
>> one thing, since Conveners post their ideas in a time and space
>> immediately. I can see an advantage to the group knowing all the nominated
>> topics prior to starting to schedule them; have others tried this and found
>> this distinction unnecessary or even unhelpful?
>>
>> Thanks, and be well,
>>
>> Marc
>> — — —
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Re: [OSList] Bulletin Board vs. Marketplace

2020-04-27 Thread Barry Owen via OSList
Something that gets done in the Marketplace is - each participant creates
his/her unique/personal agenda for the meeting based on the smorgasbord of
topics on the Bulletin Board
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:39 AM Bhavesh Patel via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Worth a try, it's double work, depends on the number of participants. It
> might or might not create a huge discussion about creating the perfect
> agenda... yawn...
>
> Anyway, time and place can be changed at any point during the process...
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 15:11, Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, everyone! Apparently, I was inadvertently proposing a slight
>> change, that of the bulletin board being only a structureless cluster of
>> topics, agnostic to time and place; thereby facilitating ea. Convener
>> placing theirs in time, AFTER learning of the larger universe of topics
>> that arose. Reactions?
>> — — —
>> Marc Trudeau
>> LikeBreathin.com
>> mobile 774-641-8302
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Artur Silva  wrote:
>>
>> I do it exactly as Marc and the manual suggest.
>>
>> The themes are proposed in a Bulletin Board (which in my case is a Time x
>> Space Matrix) and then the participants sign for the sessions they want to
>> attend (they can sign for more than one) and negotiate with the proponents
>> about possible changes in schedules or rooms...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Artur
>>
>> ---
>>
>> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 12:39:54 AM GMT+1, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Marc. For me the marketplace is the marketplace - the spaces where
>> breakout offerings are taking place and people are moving from spot to
>> spot. Like we do in a long standing village marketplace.
>>
>> The bulletin board is the spot where items are posted and spaces/times
>> are negotiated - so we can find the spots in the marketplace where our
>> favorite vendors are offering their delights and conundrums.
>>
>> Curious how others hold this.
>>
>> Warmly
>> Jeff
>> Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 4:31 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, All! Hope you and yours are well and coping effectively with the
>> current crisis.
>>
>> I very much enjoyed Barry’s mantra in the opening circle at WOSonOS,
>> “Circle, Breath, Bulletin Board, Marketplace.” It led me to do some reading
>> about OST, and I noticed Bulletin Board and Marketplace broken out as
>> separate elements, but in every Open Space I’ve attended, they’re kind of
>> one thing, since Conveners post their ideas in a time and space
>> immediately. I can see an advantage to the group knowing all the nominated
>> topics prior to starting to schedule them; have others tried this and found
>> this distinction unnecessary or even unhelpful?
>>
>> Thanks, and be well,
>>
>> Marc
>> — — —
>> Marc Trudeau
>> LikeBreathin.com
>> mobile 774-641-8302
>>
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Re: [OSList] Bulletin Board vs. Marketplace

2020-04-27 Thread Bhavesh Patel via OSList
Worth a try, it's double work, depends on the number of participants. It
might or might not create a huge discussion about creating the perfect
agenda... yawn...

Anyway, time and place can be changed at any point during the process...


On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 at 15:11, Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Thanks, everyone! Apparently, I was inadvertently proposing a slight
> change, that of the bulletin board being only a structureless cluster of
> topics, agnostic to time and place; thereby facilitating ea. Convener
> placing theirs in time, AFTER learning of the larger universe of topics
> that arose. Reactions?
> — — —
> Marc Trudeau
> LikeBreathin.com
> mobile 774-641-8302
>
> On Apr 27, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Artur Silva  wrote:
>
> I do it exactly as Marc and the manual suggest.
>
> The themes are proposed in a Bulletin Board (which in my case is a Time x
> Space Matrix) and then the participants sign for the sessions they want to
> attend (they can sign for more than one) and negotiate with the proponents
> about possible changes in schedules or rooms...
>
> Regards
>
> Artur
>
> ---
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2020, 12:39:54 AM GMT+1, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Marc. For me the marketplace is the marketplace - the spaces where
> breakout offerings are taking place and people are moving from spot to
> spot. Like we do in a long standing village marketplace.
>
> The bulletin board is the spot where items are posted and spaces/times are
> negotiated - so we can find the spots in the marketplace where our favorite
> vendors are offering their delights and conundrums.
>
> Curious how others hold this.
>
> Warmly
> Jeff
> Telegraph Hill, San Francisco
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 4:31 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, All! Hope you and yours are well and coping effectively with the
> current crisis.
>
> I very much enjoyed Barry’s mantra in the opening circle at WOSonOS,
> “Circle, Breath, Bulletin Board, Marketplace.” It led me to do some reading
> about OST, and I noticed Bulletin Board and Marketplace broken out as
> separate elements, but in every Open Space I’ve attended, they’re kind of
> one thing, since Conveners post their ideas in a time and space
> immediately. I can see an advantage to the group knowing all the nominated
> topics prior to starting to schedule them; have others tried this and found
> this distinction unnecessary or even unhelpful?
>
> Thanks, and be well,
>
> Marc
> — — —
> Marc Trudeau
> LikeBreathin.com
> mobile 774-641-8302
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Re: [OSList] Bulletin Board vs. Marketplace

2020-04-27 Thread Marc C. Trudeau via OSList
Thanks, everyone! Apparently, I was inadvertently proposing a slight change, 
that of the bulletin board being only a structureless cluster of topics, 
agnostic to time and place; thereby facilitating ea. Convener placing theirs in 
time, AFTER learning of the larger universe of topics that arose. Reactions?
— — —
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LikeBreathin.com
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On Apr 27, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Artur Silva 
mailto:arturfsi...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I do it exactly as Marc and the manual suggest.

The themes are proposed in a Bulletin Board (which in my case is a Time x Space 
Matrix) and then the participants sign for the sessions they want to attend 
(they can sign for more than one) and negotiate with the proponents about 
possible changes in schedules or rooms...

Regards

Artur

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On Monday, April 27, 2020, 12:39:54 AM GMT+1, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
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Hi Marc. For me the marketplace is the marketplace - the spaces where breakout 
offerings are taking place and people are moving from spot to spot. Like we do 
in a long standing village marketplace.

The bulletin board is the spot where items are posted and spaces/times are 
negotiated - so we can find the spots in the marketplace where our favorite 
vendors are offering their delights and conundrums.

Curious how others hold this.

Warmly
Jeff
Telegraph Hill, San Francisco


On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 4:31 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
Hi, All! Hope you and yours are well and coping effectively with the current 
crisis.

I very much enjoyed Barry’s mantra in the opening circle at WOSonOS, “Circle, 
Breath, Bulletin Board, Marketplace.” It led me to do some reading about OST, 
and I noticed Bulletin Board and Marketplace broken out as separate elements, 
but in every Open Space I’ve attended, they’re kind of one thing, since 
Conveners post their ideas in a time and space immediately. I can see an 
advantage to the group knowing all the nominated topics prior to starting to 
schedule them; have others tried this and found this distinction unnecessary or 
even unhelpful?

Thanks, and be well,

Marc
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Re: [OSList] Bulletin Board vs. Marketplace

2020-04-27 Thread Artur Silva via OSList
  I do it exactly as Marc and the manual suggest. 
The themes are proposed in a Bulletin Board (which in my case is a Time x Space 
Matrix) and then the participants sign for the sessions they want to attend 
(they can sign for more than one) and negotiate with the proponents about 
possible changes in schedules or rooms...

Regards
Artur
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On Monday, April 27, 2020, 12:39:54 AM GMT+1, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Marc. For me the marketplace is the marketplace - the spaces where breakout 
offerings are taking place and people are moving from spot to spot. Like we do 
in a long standing village marketplace. 
The bulletin board is the spot where items are posted and spaces/times are 
negotiated - so we can find the spots in the marketplace where our favorite 
vendors are offering their delights and conundrums.
Curious how others hold this.
WarmlyJeffTelegraph Hill, San Francisco

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 4:31 PM Marc C. Trudeau via OSList 
 wrote:

Hi, All! Hope you and yours are well and coping effectively with the current 
crisis.

I very much enjoyed Barry’s mantra in the opening circle at WOSonOS, “Circle, 
Breath, Bulletin Board, Marketplace.” It led me to do some reading about OST, 
and I noticed Bulletin Board and Marketplace broken out as separate elements, 
but in every Open Space I’ve attended, they’re kind of one thing, since 
Conveners post their ideas in a time and space immediately. I can see an 
advantage to the group knowing all the nominated topics prior to starting to 
schedule them; have others tried this and found this distinction unnecessary or 
even unhelpful?

Thanks, and be well,

Marc
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Marc Trudeau
LikeBreathin.com
mobile 774-641-8302

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Re: [OSList] A Possible Future for Journalism

2020-04-27 Thread Artur Silva via OSList
 Thank you, Peggy.
Very interesting.
Regards
Artur
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On Sunday, April 26, 2020, 11:59:59 PM GMT+1, Peggy Holman via OSList 
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Hi all,

I hope you are staying well in these strange times. Shelter in place has given 
me time for some writing I’ve been wanting to do. Nonprofit Quarterly just 
published my take on a possible future for journalism: How Can We Emerge from 
the Pandemic with the Journalism We Need?

I thought about whether it was appropriate to share this article on a list 
dedicated to Open Space. I’ll admit it is a bit of a stretch. I chose to do so 
because in the last few years, I’ve seen an increasing intersection between 
community conversation and journalistic storytelling in order to serve the 
needs of civil society. 

So if you’re interested, please take a look at this story of hope & 
possibility. It is illustrated with examples of the intrepid adventurers who 
are reinventing journalism. Using the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution 
as a frame, it offers five trends. 

From:
   
   - Monocultural to multicultural
   - Lecturing to listening
   - Problems to possibilities
   - Debate to dialogue
   - Go alone to come together

Enjoy!
Stay well,Peggy

Peggy Holman
Co-founder
Journalism That Matters
15347 SE 49th Place
Bellevue, WA  98006
206-948-0432
www.journalismthatmatters.org
www.peggyholman.com
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JTM Twitter: @JTMStream

Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into 
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