Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Juliand,

aspects such as "time-slots" and other stuff around the Bulletin Board 
and the Marketplace are very subtle.


I, for instance, never speak of "time-slots" but rather of the "starting 
time" for a session and not about the time when it closes. And add a 
little stuff about what might happen "when it is over" and "when it is 
not over" in a breakout session. Actually I have done this in 
conjunction with talking about "When its over/not over" (Vorbei/nicht 
vorbei)... and also address, very briefly, the situation when you face 
the next bunch coming into the  breakout space and the bunch there is in 
the middle of an issue.



And the "Whenever it starts is the right time" (Es fängt an, wenn die 
Zeit reif ist) is also subtle. It has different connotations also in 
different languages, I suppose, from "It starts when it starts / it ends 
when it ends"...


Looking back to my beginnigs with os events in 1996 I see that we had 
very structured Bulletin Boards, with the space outlined to fit exactly 
the size of the paper (A3) that were provided for the issues... in fact, 
you can see such a schedule on pages 73 and 74 in the Third Edition of 
"Open Space Technology-A User's Guide" / 2008.
In "Meine open space Praxis" you see a Bulletin Board on page 97... 
somewhat different.
Really different stuff and design turns up when folks can not read or 
write... its all oral AND it fits the culture in that particular 
situation that I heard about. Written stuff is very suspicious.


This is grand stuff to discuss at os on os  OR at a Stammtisch, of course!

cheers
mmp


Am 11.04.2019 um 13:45 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & 
Process) via OSList:

Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 01:49:

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined
 session slots.  (...)
What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants 
handle time and, I assume, space management?


One less thing to do for me. :o)

I also feel that in my contexts (mostly the German-speaking world), 
people follow structure strongly: when a "slot" is 60 minutes, the 
"session" that people put into the "slot" will most likely last 60 
minutes. And it will end on time, because people have another "session" 
to go to (which was put into a pre-defined "slot" earlier on).


"It starts when it starts / it ends when it ends" become somewhat empty 
words.


By _not_ predefining "slots", I show people directly that *they can 
decide how to spend their time - freely*. In the moment. change their 
idea about what is important spontaneously. and so on. Pre-defined slots 
often create a "program" for the day whereas an open schedule creates 
much more flow, spontaneous changes, interesting conflicts and solutions 
about space-usage... and most of all: more *initiative*. With open 
schedule I see much more of "Oh, I have a new idea now; I will call for 
a session immediately!" (goes to board, rings a bell) and much less of 
"oh that was interesting, but the marketplace is already full and all 
these other sessions are scheduled so I might wait and see and distract 
myself..."


(And some people dislike these conflicts and the creativity and the 
intensity that comes with that and go for more ease and efficiency, and 
that may be perfectly valid depending on context.)


Another advantage is that people can create very tiny sessions to fix 
problems. "I have this thing and I need ten minutes to..." And then 
people show up and BOOM it's done, one problem solved, and more capacity 
created to now work on other things. This never happens if all the 
"slots" are 45, 60, 90 minutes long.


Love,
Juliane.



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mmpannw...@gmail.com


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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Well, Juliane, if everyone knew already, why are questions posted?

Actually, I find it good that questions are asked about things that are 
already discussed and apparently settled. Its just another way of 
expanding space over and over again and sharing stuff over and over 
again, its never exactly the same and how could it be?


Peace
mmp

Am 11.04.2019 um 13:47 schrieb Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & 
Process) via OSList:



Michael M Pannwitz via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 08:1> The 
punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a
free glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... 
you should have come up with your insight a long time ago.


Wait... I thought everybody knew this already? OK, allright, time to 
tell more stories I guess...


See you at Stammtisch soon. :)


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mmpannw...@gmail.com


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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList]

Michael M Pannwitz via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 08:1> The 
punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a
free glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... you 
should have come up with your insight a long time ago.


Wait... I thought everybody knew this already? OK, allright, time to 
tell more stories I guess...


See you at Stammtisch soon. :)
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList]

Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 11.04.19 um 01:49:

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined
 session slots.  (...)
What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants 
handle time and, I assume, space management?


One less thing to do for me. :o)

I also feel that in my contexts (mostly the German-speaking world), 
people follow structure strongly: when a "slot" is 60 minutes, the 
"session" that people put into the "slot" will most likely last 60 
minutes. And it will end on time, because people have another "session" 
to go to (which was put into a pre-defined "slot" earlier on).


"It starts when it starts / it ends when it ends" become somewhat empty 
words.


By _not_ predefining "slots", I show people directly that *they can 
decide how to spend their time - freely*. In the moment. change their 
idea about what is important spontaneously. and so on. Pre-defined slots 
often create a "program" for the day whereas an open schedule creates 
much more flow, spontaneous changes, interesting conflicts and solutions 
about space-usage... and most of all: more *initiative*. With open 
schedule I see much more of "Oh, I have a new idea now; I will call for 
a session immediately!" (goes to board, rings a bell) and much less of 
"oh that was interesting, but the marketplace is already full and all 
these other sessions are scheduled so I might wait and see and distract 
myself..."


(And some people dislike these conflicts and the creativity and the 
intensity that comes with that and go for more ease and efficiency, and 
that may be perfectly valid depending on context.)


Another advantage is that people can create very tiny sessions to fix 
problems. "I have this thing and I need ten minutes to..." And then 
people show up and BOOM it's done, one problem solved, and more capacity 
created to now work on other things. This never happens if all the 
"slots" are 45, 60, 90 minutes long.


Love,
Juliane.

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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Bhavesh Patel via OSList]

And this mad man would say:
https://rationalmadness.wordpress.com/2012/10/04/my-one-minute-open-space-introduction/

On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 00:57, Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your input!
>
> Juliane--it's a one-day OS.
>
> I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session
> slots. For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User
> Guide.
>
> What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants handle
> time and, I assume, space management?
>
> Thanks!
>
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
>
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> you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Chris Corrigan via OSList]

“The punishment for not sharing learning is severe...” and atonement available 
through glasses of beer is an excellent rule for a community of practice!

Chris

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> On Apr 11, 2019, at 8:12 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Jake,
> 
> seasoned hands who have the suggestion in mind to have a close look for one 
> thing they can do without at their next try (each os event remains an 
> experiment) have come up with many things they no longer do.
> 
> For someone new at this, the suggestion is to do it by the book the first few 
> times and read the entire book before each new event... and then get into the 
> mode of "one thing less to do".
> 
> And when that happens, this is another Law if you like, the variation or 
> other learning needs to get into the big pool since ost has become something 
> we all are adapting, improving, shortening, etc.
> 
> The punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a free 
> glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... you should 
> have come up with your insight a long time ago.
> 
> Good luck
> mmp
> 
>> Am 11.04.2019 um 01:49 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
>> Thanks everyone for your input!
>> Juliane--it's a one-day OS.
>> I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session slots. 
>> For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User Guide.
>> What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants handle 
>> time and, I assume, space management?
>> Thanks!
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> 
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you 
>> will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams 
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> ++49 - 30-772 8000
> mmpannw...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 475 resident Open Space 
> Workers in 76 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
> www.openspaceworldmap.org
> 
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> some in English, some as ebooks, some multilingual
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael M Pannwitz via OSList]

Dear Jake,

seasoned hands who have the suggestion in mind to have a close look for 
one thing they can do without at their next try (each os event remains 
an experiment) have come up with many things they no longer do.


For someone new at this, the suggestion is to do it by the book the 
first few times and read the entire book before each new event... and 
then get into the mode of "one thing less to do".


And when that happens, this is another Law if you like, the variation or 
other learning needs to get into the big pool since ost has become 
something we all are adapting, improving, shortening, etc.


The punishment for not sharing learning is severe. In Berlin I demand a 
free glas of beer when I meet the culprit. So, watch out, Juliane... you 
should have come up with your insight a long time ago.


Good luck
mmp

Am 11.04.2019 um 01:49 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:

Thanks everyone for your input!

Juliane--it's a one-day OS.

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session 
slots. For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User 
Guide.


What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants 
handle time and, I assume, space management?


Thanks!

All the best,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and 
you will be free of problems.

  - Robert Adams 

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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Thanks everyone for your input!

Juliane--it's a one-day OS.

I am intrigued by the fact that you do not use pre-determined session
slots. For the OS I am facilitating, I am basing the design on HO's User
Guide.

What do you find to be the pros and cons of having the participants handle
time and, I assume, space management?

Thanks!

All the best,
Jake


When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Michael Herman via OSList]

Depends on what you include in "opening."  Yesterday I facilitated a
one-day meeting.  50 people.  I always make the breakouts the same length.
Between that and limits imposed by my client, I had to "schedule" the
opening for 30 minutes, knowing it would really take 45.  Which it did.
And everything worked fine.  But that 30 minutes didn't include the 30
minutes prior to that for gathering and eating breakfast foods.  With a
free hand, I'd have called it 8:00 gathering, 8:15 opening, 9:00
breakouts... but they'd already pushed out the "8:30 start".  Doesn't
matter.  The opening wouldn't have started at exactly 8:15 anyway.
Wouldn't be far off, I think, to say that the gathering and opening time is
about as long as one breakout session and that might range from 20 to 90
minutes.  But 20 minutes is a really abridged version some might take issue
with as "not open space."  Whatever that means.  Not what I prefer, but I
think it's happened.  The place I'm thinking about was a monthly networking
group.  Otherwise, 30 mins is probably shortest I've seen.  But you have to
include the gathering time.  My answer to "how long should the opening be?"
is "how long will it take everyone to arrive and be ready to begin?"

--

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:09 AM Tom Brown via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Jeff & Jake,
> I’ve also done these mini open spaces.  With greater and lesser success.
> When I have times much smaller than 2 hours I tend to think of using Lean
> Coffee as a form of (Open Space Light).  Because of the amount of basic
> opening and closing overhead build into Open Space is not justified as a
> percentage of the overall time available. I want to get folks interacting.
> Not listing to someone set things up.
>
> With Lean Coffee, If I have a larger group (20 and more), then breaking
> the group down into groups of less than 20 or so seems to be important for
> Lean Coffee.  Also a Table or wall is helpful with Lean Coffee to post
> topics.
>
> --Tom Brown
> tgb...@gmail.com
> On Apr 10, 2019, 11:52 AM -0400, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>, wrote:
>
> Hi. One evening we only had two hours for 130 people. So the design was 30
> minutes opening, two 30 minute session times, and a 30 minute closing. It
> was a lively loud church hall full of Occupy activists, raising the spirit
> and the roof.
>
> If we had 3 hours we would have planned 45 minutes for each.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:55 AM Barry Owen via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Jake! My experience is that virtually every space I've opened,
>> the opening is @ 45 minutes - I "schedule" an hour for it.
>>
>> Larger groups can take longer just because the Marketplace is more busy.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> b
>> *Barry Owen*
>> *Real Estate Strategist*
>> CEO/Principal Broker
>> *Pareto Realty, LLC *\pə-ˈrā-(ˌ)tō\
>> 
>> *The Vital Few*
>> 4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
>> Nashville, TN 37215
>> Office: 615-502-2080
>> Connect: *615-568-2123*
>> *BarryOwen.US *
>> WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
>>
>> *Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports
>> member agents in building and growing consistently productive niche
>> businesses as they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.*
>>
>> *IMPORTANT NOTICE:* *Never trust wiring instructions sent via email.* Cyber
>> criminals are hacking email accounts and sending emails with fake wiring
>> instructions. These emails are convincing and sophisticated. *Always* 
>> independently
>> confirm wiring instructions in person or via a telephone call to a trusted
>> and verified phone number. *Never* wire money without double-checking
>> that the wiring instructions are correct.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:47 AM Jake Yeager via OSList <
>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I am helping to arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In
>>> Harrison's *User Guide* he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This
>>> seems a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Jake
>>> 
>>>
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>>> you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Tom Brown via OSList]

Jeff & Jake,
I’ve also done these mini open spaces.  With greater and lesser success.  When 
I have times much smaller than 2 hours I tend to think of using Lean Coffee as 
a form of (Open Space Light).  Because of the amount of basic opening and 
closing overhead build into Open Space is not justified as a percentage of the 
overall time available. I want to get folks interacting.  Not listing to 
someone set things up.

With Lean Coffee, If I have a larger group (20 and more), then breaking the 
group down into groups of less than 20 or so seems to be important for Lean 
Coffee.  Also a Table or wall is helpful with Lean Coffee to post topics.

--Tom Brown
tgb...@gmail.com
On Apr 10, 2019, 11:52 AM -0400, Jeff Aitken via OSList 
, wrote:
> Hi. One evening we only had two hours for 130 people. So the design was 30 
> minutes opening, two 30 minute session times, and a 30 minute closing. It was 
> a lively loud church hall full of Occupy activists, raising the spirit and 
> the roof.
>
> If we had 3 hours we would have planned 45 minutes for each.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
> > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:55 AM Barry Owen via OSList 
> >  wrote:
> > > Greetings Jake! My experience is that virtually every space I've opened, 
> > > the opening is @ 45 minutes - I "schedule" an hour for it.
> > >
> > > Larger groups can take longer just because the Marketplace is more busy.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > b
> > > Barry Owen
> > > Real Estate Strategist
> > > CEO/Principal Broker
> > > Pareto Realty, LLC \pə-ˈrā-(ˌ)tō\
> > > The Vital Few
> > > 4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
> > > Nashville, TN 37215
> > > Office: 615-502-2080
> > > Connect: 615-568-2123
> > > BarryOwen.US
> > > WhyJoinParetoRealty.com
> > > Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports 
> > > member agents in building and growing consistently productive niche 
> > > businesses as they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.
> > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: Never trust wiring instructions sent via email. Cyber 
> > > criminals are hacking email accounts and sending emails with fake wiring 
> > > instructions. These emails are convincing and sophisticated. Always 
> > > independently confirm wiring instructions in person or via a telephone 
> > > call to a trusted and verified phone number. Never wire money without 
> > > double-checking that the wiring instructions are correct.
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:47 AM Jake Yeager via OSList 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am helping to arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In 
> > > > > Harrison's User Guide he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This 
> > > > > seems a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > All the best,
> > > > > Jake
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, 
> > > > > and you will be free of problems.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Juliane Martina Roell (Structure & Process) via OSList]

Jake Yeager via OSList schrieb am 10.04.19 um 13:46 > I am helping to 
arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In
Harrison's /User Guide/ he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This 
seems a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?


Hi Jake,

I'd say it depends on what kind of space you are opening: How much time 
do you have for the whole thing? A 2 hour event may need a different 
opening than a five-day one.


Also: why do you need to know in advance? What decisions depend on your 
projection for the duration of the "opening"? Could you just "open" and 
go with the flow?


(I'm from the school that uses no pre-framed or -timed "session slots". 
I leave all time management to the participants. So I rarely need to 
know / plan how long an "opening" or a marketplace phase takes.)


Love,
Juliane.
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Jeff Aitken via OSList]

Hi. One evening we only had two hours for 130 people. So the design was 30
minutes opening, two 30 minute session times, and a 30 minute closing. It
was a lively loud church hall full of Occupy activists, raising the spirit
and the roof.

If we had 3 hours we would have planned 45 minutes for each.

Jeff
San Francisco

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:55 AM Barry Owen via OSList <
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> Greetings Jake! My experience is that virtually every space I've opened,
> the opening is @ 45 minutes - I "schedule" an hour for it.
>
> Larger groups can take longer just because the Marketplace is more busy.
>
> Best,
>
> b
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> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:47 AM Jake Yeager via OSList <
> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I am helping to arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In
>> Harrison's *User Guide* he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This
>> seems a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jake
>> 
>>
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Re: [OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Barry Owen via OSList]

Greetings Jake! My experience is that virtually every space I've opened,
the opening is @ 45 minutes - I "schedule" an hour for it.

Larger groups can take longer just because the Marketplace is more busy.

Best,

b
*Barry Owen*
*Real Estate Strategist*
CEO/Principal Broker
*Pareto Realty, LLC *\pə-ˈrā-(ˌ)tō\

*The Vital Few*
4004 Hillsboro Pike Ste 234-B
Nashville, TN 37215
Office: 615-502-2080
Connect: *615-568-2123*
*BarryOwen.US *
WhyJoinParetoRealty.com

*Pareto Realty is a residential real estate sales firm that supports member
agents in building and growing consistently productive niche businesses as
they enjoy the healthy life rhythm they want and deserve.*

*IMPORTANT NOTICE:* *Never trust wiring instructions sent via email.* Cyber
criminals are hacking email accounts and sending emails with fake wiring
instructions. These emails are convincing and sophisticated. *Always*
independently
confirm wiring instructions in person or via a telephone call to a trusted
and verified phone number. *Never* wire money without double-checking that
the wiring instructions are correct.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:47 AM Jake Yeager via OSList <
oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I am helping to arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In
> Harrison's *User Guide* he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This
> seems a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?
>
> Thanks!
>
> All the best,
> Jake
> 
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
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[OSList] How long for opening for smaller group?

[Jake Yeager via OSList]

Hey everyone,

I am helping to arrange an Open Space for about 30 participants. In
Harrison's *User Guide* he indicates 1.5 hours for the opening. This seems
a little long for a smaller group. What does everyone think?

Thanks!

All the best,
Jake


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you will be free of problems.
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